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Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Riku on May 03, 2005, 06:02:45 AM
Gamerankings\' Forza page (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/920720.asp)

Gamespot\'s Forza Review - 9.2 (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/driving/forzamotorsport/review.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_flashtop_bg)

Looks like Polyphony has some competition, but this is a good thing as they\'ll try to one up each other.  We win.:)
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: QuDDus on May 03, 2005, 09:05:32 AM
Yeah all accounts so far is the game rocks.
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: mm on May 03, 2005, 02:43:52 PM
lol @ the GameBiz review
Title: Re: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Lord Nicon on May 03, 2005, 08:49:55 PM
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Originally posted by Rikku
Looks like Polyphony has some competition, but this is a good thing as they\'ll try to one up each other.  We win.:)

I suppose, but for those with one system, the other game doesnt really matter for anything but senseless debate etc.
Title: Re: Re: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Riku on May 04, 2005, 12:51:07 PM
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
I suppose, but for those with one system, the other game doesnt really matter for anything but senseless debate etc.


No, what I meant is that if you, for example, own a Xbox then you have the Forza development team trying to one up Polyphony and vice-versa.  

What\'s that saying, competition is the mother of innovation?
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: mm on May 04, 2005, 02:39:09 PM
profit is the true mother of innovation
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Riku on May 04, 2005, 02:44:39 PM
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Originally posted by mm
profit is the true mother of innovation


yes, I suppose it was profit that got Polyphony to put all the innovative features they included in Gran Turismo 4 over the thrid game...oh wait.:p
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: mm on May 04, 2005, 03:17:36 PM
well, yes
why else would anyone buy it?

or anything for that matter
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Black Samurai on May 05, 2005, 12:20:10 AM
necessity is the mother of innovation
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: mm on May 05, 2005, 03:37:31 AM
:stick:
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 05, 2005, 05:56:11 AM
Oh man. I would not like to have someone poking a stick in my head right now. Nooo way.
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Riku on May 05, 2005, 08:35:44 AM
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
necessity is the mother of innovation


Necessity is the mother of invention, competition breeds innovation.

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well, yes
why else would anyone buy it?

or anything for that matter


Went right over your head...I\'ll just say that GT4 didn\'t do much more than its predecessor.
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: mm on May 05, 2005, 02:42:41 PM
it didn\'t have to
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Riku on May 06, 2005, 06:12:00 AM
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Originally posted by mm
it didn\'t have to


You missed my point.  It demolishes your comment of "profit is the true mother of innovation."
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: mm on May 06, 2005, 02:35:11 PM
no, it strengthens it
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Evi on May 06, 2005, 03:55:08 PM
^^^^

So you\'re disagreeing with yourself?
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Riku on May 07, 2005, 09:39:15 AM
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Originally posted by mm
no, it strengthens it


I\'m curious as to how you\'re making sense of that.

If profit is the true mother of innovation then why is that GT4 did hardly anything new?  Explain.
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: THX on May 07, 2005, 10:06:00 AM
Microsoft = MOTHER of profit

Where\'s the innovation in Windows?  Take a look at how far Mac\'s OS has come (if you\'ve seen it in motion by someone who knows what he/she\'s doing you know what I\'m talking about).  What drives Apple to innovate is competition, they have to one up Windows as much as they can, and they don\'t make nearly as much profit as MS.
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Unicron! on May 07, 2005, 10:15:40 AM
I dont think profit and innovation go together these days.Companies dont risk with innovation much because innovation doesnt necessarily bring profit.They offer whatever can sell for sure.
They prefer improving on the same ideas.
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Riku on May 07, 2005, 10:42:08 AM
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Where\'s the innovation in Windows? Take a look at how far Mac\'s OS has come (if you\'ve seen it in motion by someone who knows what he/she\'s doing you know what I\'m talking about). What drives Apple to innovate is competition, they have to one up Windows as much as they can, and they don\'t make nearly as much profit as MS.
 


MS has a stranglehold on the OS market, and have very little reason to put more effort into Windows then they have to.  Apple, on the other hand, needs to give people a reason to either stay with them or convert.

With Forza, MS had to demonstrate they can challenge the market leader of racing sims.  On almost all accounts they managed to better it.  Forza would not have all the features it does if it weren\'t for Gran Turismo, and you can bet that GT5 will be a better game because of Forza.

Competition = innovation.
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Unicron! on May 07, 2005, 11:09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Rikku
MS has a stranglehold on the OS market, and have very little reason to put more effort into Windows then they have to.  Apple, on the other hand, needs to give people a reason to either stay with them or convert.

With Forza, MS had to demonstrate they can challenge the market leader of racing sims.  On almost all accounts they managed to better it.  Forza would not have all the features it does if it weren\'t for Gran Turismo, and you can bet that GT5 will be a better game because of Forza.

Competition = innovation.


Good points but I disagree only on the  "Competition = innovation" part.I d personally say more like evolution/improvement.
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: THX on May 07, 2005, 08:32:54 PM
This is simple Microeconomics you hippy.  Competition decreases prices while increasing quality.  If all we saw were Ford Model-Ts on the road you think we\'d have Bluetooth phone hookups to our car\'s navigational system like Acuras have?  Would Nintendo give a damn about HDTV and multi-channel sound if Sony and MS didn\'t do it first?

mmmmm I dunno :soapbox:
Title: Forza Motorsport reviews
Post by: Unicron! on May 08, 2005, 12:22:46 AM
Competition=improvement=increasing quality