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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Samwise on May 17, 2005, 05:44:49 AM
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Cute :)
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tiny
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holy cow, so it is using DVDs huh? Nintendo finally caved...
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IGN reports the big N saying it\'ll be 2-3 times more powerful than GC. I think they\'re just being very conservative again.
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too small!
i kind of like massive consoles, they look "big"
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Originally posted by Samwise
IGN reports the big N saying it\'ll be 2-3 times more powerful than GC. I think they\'re just being very conservative again.
If that the case then why even bother 2 - 3 x\'s wouldn\'t even be worth the effort IMO.
It has to be a typo, especially looking at the PS3 and Xbox 360 being exponetially more powerful then their predecessors.
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Originally posted by ddaryl
If that the case then why even bother 2 - 3 x\'s wouldn\'t even be worth the effort IMO.
It has to be a typo, especially looking at the PS3 and Xbox 360 being exponetially more powerful then their predecessors.
They say they are exponetially more powerful but do you really think thats true in the sense that it implies? I surely dont. Theres no doubt that the games will look leaps and bounds better but exponetial infers something completely different. Im sure Nintendo wont just jump into a completely lost battle.
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What about de games
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
They say they are exponetially more powerful but do you really think thats true in the sense that it implies?
Yeah I\'m a little liberal with the term exponetially here but, both Xbox360 and PS3 have 10 + times the memory, and 10 + times the processor speed, and probably 10 + times the bandwidth. They are both using improved cutting edge technologies and when you put all those factors together you are getting a machine that is much more powersul then the predecessors. Dare I say about 1000 times more powerful, which is not exponetial in the extreme sense but it can be displayed in exponetial form.
Personally I don\'t think Nintendo really has the means to keep up in the hardware race. I felt this way last generation. They are great game makers, but the hardware battle is becoming a very large and expensive investment especially with Sony and MS pushing each other to the limits.
Not sure what to expect with Nintendo, but 2 - 3 times won\'t cut it.
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I felt this way last generation.
Because PS2 was more powerful than GameCube?
Go back to the hole you were in and regain whatever common sense you use to have.
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:laughing: I see jumpy has become a man now.
*runsandhides*
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Jumpy is not a boy and not yet a (wo)man.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Because PS2 was more powerful than GameCube?
Go back to the hole you were in and regain whatever common sense you use to have.
clam down little man. You haven\'t changed a bit.
I felt that way based upon what it takes to fund a console, the amount of money you have to lose on hardware sales and make up on software sales, and the resources MS and Sony have at their disposal.
Nintendo is just not in the same league fiscally as Sony and MS. Sony also built numerous chip production plants where they can output there own chips and cut out the middle man. I just don\'t think Nintendo can continue to compete at the level they would want to for consoles. I honestly thought Gamecube would be the last Nintendo console and they would start making games cross platform.
Now jumpdude, take a step back, regain your composure, and realize that people are allowed to feel whatever way they like. Wether or not my feelings are correct or not are irrelevant, I made a predicition back then and obviously I was wrong. I\'m not going to get bent out of shape about it. nintendo knows what they want to achieve and they know there market and where they can profit.
Have a nice day :stick:
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Nintendo has $7 BILLION just sitting in the bank. That\'s a helluva lot of capital to work with. They\'ve also been in the business the longest.
I see your concern but I wouldn\'t count Nintendo out just yet. System specs/capabilites and most importantly, games aren\'t even announced.
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I\'m watching the conference and this guy Iwata is BRUTAL. He has been talking for about 10 minutes about the Revolution and he has said absolutely nothing. Why talk about Miyamoto\'s innovative work on the revolution and then say but it is a secret.
This media conference is worse than that Xbox 360 thing on MTV. GAWD.
Its like they are all making it up as they go.
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OMG. "Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Remix" like we REALLY needed more Mario games.
I hoped that Nintendo would make a strong showing but this is looking like a two company console war.
Nintendo needs to fire their marketing team. Why even bring up the Revolution at all? Trash.
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Originally posted by THX
Nintendo has $7 BILLION just sitting in the bank. That\'s a helluva lot of capital to work with. They\'ve also been in the business the longest.
I see your concern but I wouldn\'t count Nintendo out just yet. System specs/capabilites and most importantly, games aren\'t even announced.
7 billion is a drop in the well compared to Sony and MS, but they should be able to produce something with that capital, however if 2 - 3 times more powerful then Gamecube is what they are trying to sell then the Revolution is in trouble.
Still thought Nintendo would focus on software this time around.
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Oh and don\'t forget that the Revolution requires an add-on in order to play DVDs. Always a step behind Nintendo. SMH
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Worst. Media. Conference. EVER.
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Um. Yeah.
Revolution had better be real cheap. As in $100 cheap. :)
As much buzz as Sony created, as much buzz Nintendo killed. I hope they\'ll show something better soon. :)
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Nintendo jumped the gun on this . You can tell they only showed the Revolution, because of MS and Sony.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Worst. Media. Conference. EVER.
Agreed. But my expectations weren\'t all that high in the first place.
The backwards compatability stuff was really nice though.
PS3 wins. Game ovah, man. Game ovah.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Nintendo jumped the gun on this . You can tell they only showed the Revolution, because of MS and Sony.
I agree. It was almost painful to watch.
Iwata is up there with the Revolution "prototype" talking about how good it should be, what games MAY be on it, the experience they are trying to convey, etc. all in heavily accented english with the crowd in COMPLETE silence. You know the crowd was pissed that they got up early to get a good seat for the DJ Chubby Techno and Fake Dog show.
They had their chance to implant themselves as a legitimate contender in the next generation, just as the hype machine starts to swell and they dropped the ball.
The gaming press is going to RIP Nintendo (and rightfully so).
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Revolution will be in the same league as all the other consoles in terms of power. They have respectable companies designing their graphics chips, etc etc. You don\'t need to waste millions of dollars in deals to produce the best software, Apple is a clear example as they continue to make Microsoft look like 2 years ago.
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nintendo is fading fast.. and that\'s kinda sad. I really wanted to see 3 viable consoles next gen, but N is gonna have a hard time distracting people from their Xbox360 and PS3.
I\'m not worried about them totally going out of business. They\'ll go third party before doing that. I got a feeling it\'s gonna be an extremely rough stretch for them :(
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Apple is a clear example as they continue to make Microsoft look like 2 years ago.
Yes, while the majority of the world continues to use Windows and Bill Gates cries all the way to the bank.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Worst. Media. Conference. EVER.
indeed.
they may as well of just said..WAIT TILL e3 2006 adn be done with it.:mad:
oh and the Tiny GBA.... = WHAT A RIP !
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Originally posted by ooseven
oh and the Tiny GBA.... = WHAT A RIP !
It\'s not a mandatory purchase, I don\'t see the problem.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Yes, while the majority of the world continues to use Windows and Bill Gates cries all the way to the bank.
Do you play games because you think you are leet owning the system with the most units sold or because you enjoy them?
Nintendo has it\'s audience and they\'ll be around for a long time. Don\'t kid yourselves. This is fucking E3, wait till it launches before completely writing them off.
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OSX Tiger > Windows XP
The games make up for that though.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Yes, while the majority of the world continues to use Windows and Bill Gates cries all the way to the bank.
:laughing: +1 for the blackman
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lol, nintendo know how to sucker the GBA owners for more money again, and again
:laughing:
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And no other company has ever done anything remotely similiar.
:laughing:
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:laughing:
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Originally posted by Soul Reaver
OSX Tiger > Windows XP
The games make up for that though.
OS X is great , but come on. It really isn\'t that big of a jump from other Linux distro\'s. Then again, I never upgraded my OSX past panther.
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I just checked out the Revolution and for what we know now, wireless controllers, Legend of Zelda, online, backwards with GCN, downloadable N64, NES, SNES... I like it.
And they\'re still holding onto the controller.
Sony and Micrsoft are talking about being ten to twenty times more powerful than the current systems. They\'re also full of shit.
Graphics so far are unimpressive compared to current high-end stuff like the Resident Evil 4s ( on the underpowered Nintendo system :rolleyes: ). The real improvements will come in physics and lighting and background detail and such.
The three platforms will be competitive, just like they are now, even tho it\'s clear which one(s) are more powerful.
Xbox needed an add-on to play DVDs, too. Wonder how much Nintendo\'s will cost....
Heh, it\'ll be worth it if the PS3 is as good a DVD player as PS2 was. ;]
//hasn\'t checked out Xbox 360 yet
-Dan
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Killzone is impressive...if its real time....And doable in gameplay "enviroment" :confused:
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Originally posted by Jumpman
And no other company has ever done anything remotely similiar.
:laughing:
oh yeah, sony did it.
wait, they didnt. damn
oooh, sega did it.
wait.....they didn\'t
that leaves....
nah
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I do have to admit that I like the design of the Nintendo console more than the PS3 and Xbox 360.
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Yeah, Sony\'s record is nothing but one original product after the after. Good one mm.
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Eik, you sound like such a fanboy. Im not trying to rag on you but seriously, ps3 and xb360 games not more impressive than RE4? Wipe the grime off your glasses my friend. RE4 is childs play on the next gen. It may not seem so at this point but just try and open your eyes.
The Xbox needed an add on to play DVD\'s. Yes. But are we talking about a console released 5 years ago or one that hasnt even been released yet? Come on. Same goes for the PS2 comment.
As for Nintendo and what looks like their attempt to hold on: It really is kinda sad to see old legends die hard. Im not saying that nintendo is down and out but they are definately mainly holding on to their core of loyal consumers. Sony and MS seem to be reaching towards new audiences etc. Nintendo seems completely lost at this juncture but we will see what they come up with. I have yet to see the press conferance btw.
The thing is, this has been happening since the dawn of gaming. Big names have died and thats just how it goes. The only thing this gen thats so sad is that many consider the only real contenders to be Sony and MS, making this a two company race. This definately seems like a dearth from the 32bit/64 bit era where everybody was trying to get a slice of the pie (which in my opinion made things a little interesting, not that it is required).
Sony and MS just have so many other areas of big business to fund their projects that companies like Nintendo just cant be a frivolous.
At this point, I am not so sure what to think about the revolution.
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jump,
originality and releasing revision after revision to feed societies need for tech comsumption are two different things.
shame you can\'t see this
but nice try to play it off
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^^^ Dumb design unless wireless is standard.
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Originally posted by THX
^^^ Dumb design unless wireless is standard.
It\'s wireless.
That was for the backwards compatibility and those damn bongos.
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Originally posted by Soul Reaver
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Soo....Standard Controller Ports ehhhh...
I hope they are just there so that you can use your old GC controllers..
For instant out of the box 4player games.
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read the post above you
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Eh, I\'m not a fan of wireless controller myself.
Buuuut.. no multitaps for 7 player party play sounds great. :D If I had 6 friends, that is...
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Originally posted by Soul Reaver
read the post above you
:D...
Wonder if you can mix and match Wireless and the old GC controllers to get more pleyers if you only have the one Wireless controller ?,
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So..... does this mean, that if i get the Revolution and I download GoldenEye 007 (N64) I wouldn\'t be able to play it with Revolution\'s standard controller : in other words I\'d have to get me a N64 c pad and plug it in ?????? :confused:
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Originally posted by Knotter8
So..... does this mean, that if i get the Revolution and I download GoldenEye 007 (N64) I wouldn\'t be able to play it with Revolution\'s standard controller : in other words I\'d have to get me a N64 c pad and plug it in ?????? :confused:
Noone knows...
Becuase Nintendo said that the biggest Revolution for the Revolution..is the controller..
Hence the NO SHOW.
I say its going to be hardwired to your brain.
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xbox2 and ps2 being 50X more powerful=hype hype and a ot more hype
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How much more powerful do you think PS2 was to PSX?
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Colorution
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ps2 could of been 1000X more powerful but did the games look 20X better? how do you even judge that?
this our system is X amount of times more powerful is nothing but hype, please stefu
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That\'s definitely NOT what I was expecting.
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Question: Is Miyamoto having a huge say in what the controller will look like? If so, expect an off-the wall controller that is great for Nintendo first party titles, but total crap for any third party game.
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If so, expect an off-the wall controller that is great for Nintendo first party titles, but total crap for any third party game.
That\'s usually how it is with Nintendo.
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Except for with Gamecube, heh. That controller wasn\'t good for anything.
My point on graphics is that while the next gen is impressive, it\'s not a significant leap. For instance, the Zelda Revolution game I was thinking of was actually the Zelda for Gamecube. Woops.
Honestly, so far the idea of shelling out 900 bucks for three new consoles shits on the gain of incremental graphics, especially when we know it\'ll be the same stuck-in-a-rut developers making sequels and knock-offs for ten bucks more than they are now.
How\'s that for being a fanboy? ;]
Anyway, least maybe I\'ll get to download SNES Chrono Trigger. It\'s too expensive on Ebay.
-Dan
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http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000610043791/
what the hell? Maybe that video was made by nintendo, as a joke or something but that\'s mr myamoto...it says so in the back.
Guy probly has a wierd sense of humor