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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: QuDDus on May 28, 2005, 03:01:37 PM
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http://www.newsinsider.org/104/us-army-lied-about-pat-tillmans-death/
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im kinda confused with this story..
when it came out they said that the details werent out yet and they just said "KIA", then they said that it was friendly fire. So maybe i missed when they said it wasnt friendly fire.
but friendly fire unfortuantely happens in war. no real way around it.
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If the parents really said their should be a homocide investigation they\'re retarded.
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sham websites need to be deleted from the net
it\'s shock marketing
The Army Ranger’s parents, who were interviewed by The Washington Post, feel that the Bush administration and the United States Army lied about the circumstances surrounding his untimely death in Afghanistan.
i wish i could post news on that site:
"www.newsinsider.org is a piece of shit news site.
mm from psx2central.com was quoted as calling http://www.newsinsider.org a piece of shit, so it must be true."
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Originally posted by mm
sham websites need to be deleted from the net
it\'s shock marketing
i wish i could post news on that site:
"www.newsinsider.org is a piece of shit news site.
mm from psx2central.com was quoted as calling http://www.newsinsider.org a piece of shit, so it must be true."
:laughing:
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I guess the truth hurts, eh? Perhaps you\'ll trust the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/22/AR2005052200865.html)
Immediately, the Army kept the soldiers on the ground quiet and told Tillman\'s family and the public that he was killed by enemy fire while storming a hill, barking orders to his fellow Rangers. After a public memorial service, at which Tillman received the Silver Star, the Army told Tillman\'s family what had really happened, that he had been killed by his own men.
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The latest investigation, written about by The Washington Post earlier this month, showed that soldiers in Afghanistan knew almost immediately that they had killed Tillman by mistake in what they believed was a firefight with enemies on a tight canyon road. The investigation also revealed that soldiers later burned Tillman\'s uniform and body armor.
That information was slow to make it back to the United States, the report said, and Army officials here were unaware that his death on April 22, 2004, was fratricide when they notified the family that Tillman had been shot.
Over the next 10 days, however, top-ranking Army officials -- including the theater commander, Army Gen. John P. Abizaid -- were told of the reports that Tillman had been killed by his own men, the investigation said. But the Army waited until a formal investigation was finished before telling the family -- which was weeks after a nationally televised memorial service that honored Tillman on May 3, 2004.
Patrick Tillman Sr., a San Jose lawyer, said he is furious about what he found in the volumes of witness statements and investigative documents the Army has given to the family. He decried what he calls a "botched homicide investigation" and blames high-ranking Army officers for presenting "outright lies" to the family and to the public.
"After it happened, all the people in positions of authority went out of their way to script this," Patrick Tillman said. "They purposely interfered with the investigation, they covered it up. I think they thought they could control it, and they realized that their recruiting efforts were going to go to hell in a handbasket if the truth about his death got out. They blew up their poster boy."
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"Maybe lying\'s not a big deal anymore," he said. "Pat\'s dead, and this isn\'t going to bring him back. But these guys should have been held up to scrutiny, right up the chain of command, and no one has."
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oh, now it\'s truth cause the washington posts writes it
:rolleyes:
i don\'t care either way about pat tillman, it just sickens me to see the media portray events how they like.
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I suppose you can\'t trust the Washinton Post ever since they said all those bad things about Richard Nixon... :rolleyes:
It\'s not the media portraying events the way you don\'t like, it\'s Pat Tillman\'s parents, and I think they have the right to do so.
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not contesting how his parents portray it
im questioning popular media\'s responsibility
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Are you suggesting the media should be covering this up and ignoring it? If not, I have no idea what you\'re saying.
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it\'s over your head i guess
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WELL WHY DON\'T YOU EXPLAIN IT TO ME?
And try to do it with more than six words this time. I know your fingers get tired, but you need to let the wisdom flow.
I\'m sitting here waiting for the pearls...
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Originally posted by mm
i don\'t care either way about pat tillman, it just sickens me to see the media portray events how they like.
The media! The media! The evil media!
They make parents and the Army do such evil evil things, don\'t they?
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i feel that the army didnt reveal it was friendly fire because they knew the american people would complain about the situation
if it was a normal grunt theyd say it was friendly fire. But now theyre dealing with a football player who gave up the "american dream" to serve our country so they didnt reveal what happened. And low and behold the public did exactly what the military expected and came out with "THIS IS OUTRAGOUS!!"
or whether its the government that lets this kind of information out..still doesnt take away any respect and dignity the guy had just because he was killed from friendly fire.
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The media! The media! The evil media!
yes, ghetto
turn the tv off sometime
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Originally posted by mm
turn the tv off sometime
What the hell does that mean?
No wonder you don\'t post in this forum much...
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Weren\'t they saying he was killed by friendly fire well before the public ceremony? I don\'t remember anyone ever saying he was killed by anything but friendly fire.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Weren\'t they saying he was killed by friendly fire well before the public ceremony? I don\'t remember anyone ever saying he was killed by anything but friendly fire.
Exactly. This is old news and certain media outlets are capitalizing on the parents reaction. Another non story sensationalized by some liberal media outlets. I guess they couldn\'t find a new negative story on our involvement in Iraq this week so they report this.
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we have a winner, folks