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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: videoholic on May 30, 2005, 04:05:42 AM
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http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5429940.html
Guy accidently shoots a boy that is hiding behind a paper practice target.
All trailer trash jokes aside, this is real sad.
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:mad:
That for letting people have guns
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Guns aren\'t the problem, dumbasses are the problem.
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No.The problem is that they let people have guns.Accidents are about to happen.
You dont know who\'s the dumbass.And society is full with them.Yet people are being let to own guns without taking into considerations these possibilities
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What a dick head.
If you are putting a target up to shoot at, you put it up against a tree or a wall so the bullet has something to stop it\'s path. You don\'t put it in the middle of the garden where people can walk behind it without noticing.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
No.The problem is that they let people have guns.Accidents are about to happen.
You dont know who\'s the dumbass.And society is full with them.Yet people are being let to own guns without taking into considerations these possibilities
by your reasoning we should ban cars then too
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Originally posted by Unicron!
:mad:
That for letting people have guns
Probably shouldn\'t let people do archery then, same with own knives in your kitchen, and maybe even have a nice pair of scissors.
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Originally posted by Bozco
Probably shouldn\'t let people do archery then, same with own knives in your kitchen, and maybe even have a nice pair of scissors.
Guns are created for killing things
As for archery its hard to use, and you dont listen to people trying to kill people with an arrow and a bow.
People arent interested at it unless they are into the sport.While guns people may buy them just like that.And its not a hard thing to use.
Hell even I used one
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Killling things isn\'t the problem. Killing things is nessicary.
The problem is that no one was aware the kid was there.... Wether anyone is at fault for not watching the kid, i dunno.
A kid recently choked on a peice of candy and died around here in new york somewhere, it is really unfortunate but accidents happen.
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You missed the point
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Originally posted by Bozco
Probably shouldn\'t let people do archery then, same with own knives in your kitchen, and maybe even have a nice pair of scissors.
I havent heard to many accidental scissor deaths, or too many kids accidentally killing their buddy with a crossbow. I\'m kind of with Cyprus on this. Stupid people shouldn\'t have guns. Guns aren\'t toys. If your a hunter, bring it hunting. They don\'t need target practice in the back yard.
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I too am on the stricter \'gun control / no guns\' wagon. Why do you really need a gun? Defense? From other people who have guns?
Real men fight with swords anyways.
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guns arent the problem
morons are
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yeah right.....so what you basically are saying is that america is filled with morons?
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well yeah...
I normally would say it\'s gods way of weeding out the stupid people, but this is pretty sad.
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guns arent the problem
morons are
imo guns are the problem. no one need a gun.
If you are a hunter or some sportman, then have restricted area where it\'s allowed.
as it is now, ppl carry gun in the subway to get to school/work. wtf.
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Originally posted by mm
guns arent the problem
morons are
More reason that guns shouldn\'t be floating around so that they can fall into a moron\'s hands.
I\'m sorry... but nobody really needs a gun but a law enforcer or a hunter. That is it.
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Chris Tucker: "Guns don\'t kill people. Stupid motherfuckers with guns kill people."
Word.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
I\'m sorry... but nobody really needs a gun but a law enforcer or a hunter. That is it.
Wrong here. 2nd ammendmant allows Americans (with clean backgrounds) to own a gun. History teaches us governments can\'t always be trusted. If the gov is the only entity anywhere in the world able to have a gun then what happens if the gov sh!ts on itself?
Both sides have their points but this is just one story out of the millions of people that have guns.
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Originally posted by THX
Wrong here. 2nd ammendmant allows Americans (with clean backgrounds) to own a gun. History teaches us governments can\'t always be trusted. If the gov is the only entity anywhere in the world able to have a gun then what happens if the gov sh!ts on itself?
You and I both know that is outdated, and a highly unlikely scenario for present times. Regardless, even if the government wanted to exert that kind of power, they have much better than guns.
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Jar knows what I\'m saying. I wasn\'t trying to incite some big debate.
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You and I both know that is outdated, and a highly unlikely scenario for present times. Regardless, even if the government wanted to exert that kind of power, they have much better than guns.
Yes, but there is a huge gap in force from Guns to Sharp Objects / Primitive Slinging devices...
There is absolutley no reason to ban guns. Death is a part of life, and it is very unfortuante.... But the logic of banning guns does not adress the real problem behind people getting killed.
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Yes, but there is a huge gap in force from Guns to Sharp Objects / Primitive Slinging devices...
There is absolutley no reason to ban guns. Death is a part of life, and it is very unfortuante.... But the logic of banning guns does not adress the real problem behind people getting killed.
:rolleyes:
With other words its obvious that the society is full with irresponsible people or people that are willing to kill others yet its fine to "promote" the use of guns amongst them?
It may not adress the "real" problem but it certaintly worsens it
Guns are NOT a part of life.
When the use of guns is permited with such ease people start losing the sense of how dangerous these things are.
Proof?
The fact that someone was practicing gun shooting with other people around (in a neighbourhood if I am not mistaken?).Especially with KIDS around.
Guns usage is something kids should never view for real.
More proof?
Your own statement
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again, morons are dangerous
gun\'s arent
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Morons need guns to be dangerous.
edit:Or if you want it stated differently.Morons are dangerous with guns
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morons are dangerous with anything, bro...
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But more dangerous with a gun.The kid wouldnt have been dead if the man didnt have a gun.Guns are not toys
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i know one thing..when i was comin up...if you had a fight you would fight with your hands up to a point,...if the said person was starting to lose, either he or his buddy would pull out a small 22 and start squeezin\' off on people....at least that\'s how it was for me back in 87 -88....i\'m older now and i\'m not confrontational like that anymore...one of the reasons being is that alot of people carry guns on them...
anybody can get guns from anywhere...i know i can easily get a gun from newark or east orange right off the block....guns are like drugs and racism.they are here to stay..i also prefer that people not have guns, even with the laws enforced, people are gettin guns through the black market with ease...
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Killing people f*cking sucks.
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Unicorn, k.
You go have your pussy-ass non-gun country.
Then when they start marginalizing you because your ideas of enforced-saftey differ, don\'t come to our country and start bitchen. We totally won\'t let you in.
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unicron every statement youve just made u can replace guns with cars and it would hold true
the inteded purpose is irelevent
guns were made to kill cars were made for transportation yet cars kill way more people than guns do
ban what ever you want countries will still fight wars and morons will still kill people
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Unicorn, k.
You go have your pussy-ass non-gun country.
Then when they start marginalizing you because your ideas of enforced-saftey differ, don\'t come to our country and start bitchen. We totally won\'t let you in.
First of all there are also many other countries with lots of crime yet guns are not legalized.
The enforced-safety statement is just an excuse for many.
How many of you actually used a gun to protect yourselves?
There should have been more and strictier bureaucracy to the procedures for gaining permission to own a gun.
And there should have been strict law that guns if indeed bought for safety reasons should NOT be used at all except in case of need.
That man actually should have been penalized for using a gun in such place
Originally posted by Jar O Pickles
unicron every statement youve just made u can replace guns with cars and it would hold true
the inteded purpose is irelevent
guns were made to kill cars were made for transportation yet cars kill way more people than guns do
ban what ever you want countries will still fight wars and morons will still kill people
The intended purpose is completely relevant.
Take cars away the whole society brakes.
Take guns away the difference is hardly felt.
You dont have the slightest sense of how dangerous a gun is compared to a car which almost anyone uses at a 24h base yet drivers to accident ratio is extremly small.
The permission and "ease" at owning a gun diminishes the sense of responsibility and of seriousness for it.
Some statements in these forums are proof of that and especially the incident were the man was actually practicing gun shooting with people around yet he wont be penalized.
The law is not strict enough.
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I\'m not really passionate about it... I just can\'t see why some people are so adamant about having guns.
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Once more, the HUGE gap between the USA and Europe is clearly to be seen as we Euro\'s very much disagree on the gun topic.
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You wouldn\'t like it if the king of England came into your house and started pushing you around, now would you?
Guns are tools, like a hammer or an alligator.
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No, i\'ll call the police using my cell phone.
European citizens respect European laws by which gun property is prohibited, illegal.
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would attribute that to a lack of rights
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Please. Whether we have guns or swords, these things have been happening eons ago. Take the same group of idiots, give them swords and believe me, someone\'s gonna lose a head.
Take a group of people with common sense, give them swords or loaded guns, there will be less likely to be a death.
Did you know more people die from mis-diagnosed medication than deaths from hand guns? You gonna ban doctors next, cyprus?
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Originally posted by mm
would attribute that to a lack of rights
Yeah and the opposite excess of rights :rolleyes:
Originally posted by GmanJoe
Did you know more people die from mis-diagnosed medication than deaths from hand guns? You gonna ban doctors next, cyprus?
More people die from mis-diagnosed medication because there are huge numbers of people getting sick everyday and there are tons of diseases that are similar in symptoms.
Please. Whether we have guns or swords, these things have been happening eons ago. Take the same group of idiots, give them swords and believe me, someone\'s gonna lose a head.
Take a group of people with common sense, give them swords or loaded guns, there will be less likely to be a death.
Yo its 2005
You dont know who\'s the idiot or not.And a gun isnt something that anyone can use efficiently.
You may be an idiot too.But you wont know until you do the accident.
Also its not just the accident.Getting used to guns, making it a part of life is an indication of corrupted perception.
Law should be strictier when it comes at owning guns.The procedures must be strictier and harder.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
More people die from mis-diagnosed medication because there are huge numbers of people getting sick everyday and there are tons of diseases that are similar in symptoms.
It\'s the rate, the statistics don\'t lie. Let\'s make it simple....100 is a nice round easy number. Take 100 people who are sick and seeing a doctor. Take 100 hand gun owners and put them in a town. Believe me, more people will die from mis-diagnosis vs the 100 people who own hand guns.
In fact, there is a town in the US where ALL the residents own hand guns. Since this research started (it was some type of experiment), the number of crime dropped the following year. AMAZING!
We have well over a million hand guns in the US and there aren\'t a million deaths from hand guns.
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What you said about statistics prooves nothing.Its idiotic to compare medical care with guns.If medical care didnt exist deaths would have been more anyways
And still you are showing exactly how corrupted is your perception.
I doubt that crime dropped thanks to that.And thats just a town.There are a million things that has to be considered.Not enough information :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Unicron!
What you said about statistics prooves nothing.Its idiotic to compare medical care with guns.If medical care didnt exist deaths would have been more anyways
And still you are showing exactly how corrupted is your perception.
I doubt that crime dropped thanks to that.And thats just a town.There are a million things that has to be considered.Not enough information :rolleyes:
It\'s really simple. No criminal would enter a house if they knew the owner was armed. The town is quite famous or infamous for this reputation. Besides, you live on an island thats\' frequently invaded. Reason? You all aren\'t armed. Idiots. :p
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Every household in cyprus has an A3G3 or A4G4.I have one as well.The army gives it to anyone who has finished his soldiering.We are prohibited to use it in any way.
Only in army training and war.
I used a 45\' gun(pistol).An HK11.G3\'s.Grenade.Zastava.And trained on mortars
edit: oh and I finished as a lieutenant :p
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Every household in cyprus has an A3G3 or A4G4.I have one as well.The army gives it to anyone who has finished his soldiering.We are prohibited to use it in any way.
Only in army training and war.
I used a 45\' gun.An HK11.G3\'s.Grenade.Zastava.And trained on mortars
edit: oh and I finished as a lieutenant :p
Then you are a hypocrite! :D Every household in cyprus has a weapon? And you\'re preaching about banning weapons? BWAHAHA! You\'re funny! Seriously, you made me laugh! :laughing:
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Yeah because we are not allowed to use it for personal use.We do not buy them and neither we are asking to have one in our household
edited again because you didnt notice: PROHIBITED TO USE IT!WE ARE ALLOWE(ACTUALLY COMMANDED) TO USE IT IN TRAINING OR WAR ONLY!AND IN TRAINING WE HAVE OFFICERS!!
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Yeah because we are not allowed to use it for personal use.We do not buy them and neither we are asking to have one in our household
Riiight. Some people do. Just like here in the States, some will use guns carelessly.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Riiight. Some people do. Just like here in the States, some will use guns carelessly.
Nobody used his G3 to kill so far :rolleyes:
We dont sell weapons for safety either.And if someone wants to own a gun he passes through many procedures.
The only guns sold are for hunting and there are certain types of bullets sold only
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Nobody used his G3 to kill so far :rolleyes:
We dont sell weapons for safety either.And if someone wants to own a gun he passes through many procedures.
The only guns sold are for hunting and there are certain types of bullets sold only
You\'re living in a dream world if you think there\'s no accidents or intentional killings with guns in your little rock.
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There are.But from people that belong to the...lets say "underground society".
Killings arent from the G3s we are given because its not hard to be discovered