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Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: dawid22 on May 31, 2005, 02:05:28 PM
Check it here:

http://ps2.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=8293

I\'ll miss this man when he leaves the industry, he is so original when doing anything it might be in his life.
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: ddaryl on May 31, 2005, 03:24:04 PM
Out of curiosity what has hideo done outside of MGS series ?
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: Unicron! on May 31, 2005, 03:41:27 PM
Snatcher
Zone of the Enders
Policenauts
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: Evi on May 31, 2005, 03:42:23 PM
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Out of curiosity what has hideo done outside of MGS series ?
You didn\'t read the article...did you?
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: videoholic on May 31, 2005, 04:04:08 PM
Heck, he didn\'t even read the first paragraph.

"Metal Gear games have been around since the days of the MSX. However it was with the PSOne title Metal Gear Solid that Hideo Kojima\'s cinematic vision of videogames came to global prominence. Through several more Metal Gear games, and Zone of Enders, Kojima has shown himself to be one of the best games developers around."
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: clips on May 31, 2005, 04:37:08 PM
i absolutely loved zone of the enders 2...the 1st one was great as well...
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: Evi on May 31, 2005, 04:58:01 PM
Zone of the Enders 1 & 2 are awesome games.

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Heck, he didn\'t even read the first paragraph.

"Metal Gear games have been around since the days of the MSX. However it was with the PSOne title Metal Gear Solid that Hideo Kojima\'s cinematic vision of videogames came to global prominence. Through several more Metal Gear games, and Zone of Enders, Kojima has shown himself to be one of the best games developers around."
It would appear so. ;)
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: ddaryl on May 31, 2005, 05:53:38 PM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
You didn\'t read the article...did you?


nope I scanned it while I was at work, couldn\'t read the whole thing.


Hideo didn\'t have much to do with Zone of Enders from a developers stand point from what I remember. He was involved in getting a team up and running to develope Zone of Enders, but from that was extent of his involvement as I understood it.

There was lots of talk of Hideo breaking away from metal Gear to do a new project on the PS2 but that never materialized and instead we have 2 versions of MGS2 and a 2nd version of MGS3 coming out with MGS4 planned.
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 31, 2005, 08:10:26 PM
The first Z.O.E was medicore, it wasn\'t until the sequel that Kojima struck gold and even then, I question how much influence he had on the title. It really was nothing like the original one, which sold only because of the MGS2 demo.

Personally, I think it\'s a shame Kojima receives so much acclaim for the MGS series, which doesn\'t really impress me. If anything, people should check out Snatcher.
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: clips on May 31, 2005, 08:12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The first Z.O.E was medicore, it wasn\'t until the sequel that Kojima struck gold and even then, I question how much influence he had on the title. It really was nothing like the original one, which sold only because of the MGS2 demo.

Personally, I think it\'s a shame Kojima receives so much acclaim for the MGS series, which doesn\'t really impress me. If anything, people should check out Snatcher.


Snatcher?..is that a pc title?...
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 31, 2005, 08:22:11 PM
Sega CD
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: Unicron! on May 31, 2005, 09:42:23 PM
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Originally posted by ddaryl
nope I scanned it while I was at work, couldn\'t read the whole thing.


Hideo didn\'t have much to do with Zone of Enders from a developers stand point from what I remember. He was involved in getting a team up and running to develope Zone of Enders, but from that was extent of his involvement as I understood it.

There was lots of talk of Hideo breaking away from metal Gear to do a new project on the PS2 but that never materialized and instead we have 2 versions of MGS2 and a 2nd version of MGS3 coming out with MGS4 planned.
he is probably trying to get enough budget for MGS4
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: dawid22 on May 31, 2005, 10:59:04 PM
Development costs are high these days... That\'s why we have GT4, GTA:SA , Tekken5, RE4, SH4, Pro Evolution Soccer 4, etc.  It\'s names that became big and have made money.  You can see that Hideo wants to do many other projects, but the chance of it failing is far to great and risky.

I am worried that the Golden Age of gaming is slowely coming to an end with companies like EA supplying games to the casual gamer that is happy with graphical updates and more commentary, etc.

I have all 3 current consoles (and a stack of older ones) and, for me, I think Nintendo will be the ones to keep an eye on.  They are about games, and nothing else.  Sony is about TV\'s, High-Fi\'s, Portable\'s, etc. and Microsft needs no Introduction.

Anyway, I\'m just glad that companies like Capcom, Konami and Square Enix is there and doing games the way it should be done - unrushed .
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: ddaryl on June 01, 2005, 05:38:07 AM
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Originally posted by dawid22
Development costs are high these days... That\'s why we have GT4, GTA:SA , Tekken5, RE4, SH4, Pro Evolution Soccer 4, etc.  It\'s names that became big and have made money.  You can see that Hideo wants to do many other projects, but the chance of it failing is far to great and risky.

I am worried that the Golden Age of gaming is slowely coming to an end with companies like EA supplying games to the casual gamer that is happy with graphical updates and more commentary, etc.

I have all 3 current consoles (and a stack of older ones) and, for me, I think Nintendo will be the ones to keep an eye on.  They are about games, and nothing else.  Sony is about TV\'s, High-Fi\'s, Portable\'s, etc. and Microsft needs no Introduction.

Anyway, I\'m just glad that companies like Capcom, Konami and Square Enix is there and doing games the way it should be done - unrushed .


We\'re off topic here , but why not


You\'ve forgotten all of Sony\'s 1st party studios who\'ve pumped out a tremendous amount of really good games this generation. Personally I don\'t think Nintendo has done much of anything special this last generation. They\'ve had their share of fun creative games like always, but Sony has made huge strides in their 1st party and publishing output. Sure the PS2 offers a tremendous amount of crap to surf through, but head to head the PS2 also offers many more AAA titles to choose from.

If you ask me Sony is the one to continue to keep an eye out for, They are about the whole package, and have made huge strides in game developement and continue to invest heavily into their studios, as well as their hardware.

As for Microsoft, your comment is nothing more then a biased dislike for MS. MS will continue to make headway and get better at the console thing. Their online package is already heralded as the best of any of the consoles, and that is a big part of the future of console gaming.
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: ddaryl on June 01, 2005, 05:41:03 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!
he is probably trying to get enough budget for MGS4



I\'m sure its part of the formula, but I still wish Hideo would take on another project from top to bottom and give it the attention he does the MGS series.  The MGS series hasn\'t evolved as much as I would of liked this generation IMO.
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: Unicron! on June 01, 2005, 06:44:44 AM
Yeah you ve got a point there.Although I personally found MGS2 when it came out in 2001 greately evolved over MGS1.
Unfortunately it seems outdated compared to newer titles that came later and it was short.

MGS3 shouldnt have been released on PS2 I believe.It had some nice ideas but they didnt get the treatment they should have had probably because of hardware limitations and previous MGS gameplay mechanisms.

I d like to see some original creative titles from him as well
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: dawid22 on June 01, 2005, 09:47:45 AM
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Originally posted by ddaryl


As for Microsoft, your comment is nothing more then a biased dislike for MS. MS will continue to make headway and get better at the console thing. Their online package is already heralded as the best of any of the consoles, and that is a big part of the future of console gaming.


I actually did not mean it in such a negative sense.  MS, is by far the best when it comes to online structure... I believe.

Keep one thing in mind, I am from South Africa and don\'t have broad band here, so to me online is non-exsistent.  You guys in the US and UK think you get it bad, games take forever to get from Japan to the ntsc/uc and PAL regions, etc.   Our PAL releases are later than your PAL releases, we don\'t get half the stuff you guys get, no online (as mentioned), Gamecube has now been dicontinued (so no Zelda for me), The PSP might be here in December, There has never been Xbox in SA (everything is imported illegally)... man, you guys have no idea:p

Back to MS, so as you can see, Halo2, Forza, etc (which I have imported) means nothing to me without LIVE support.  Most of the games on the Xbox with good single player games is available on the PS2.  The only ones that come to mind that make it worthwhile to me is Dead or Alive 3 and Ninja Gaiden, that\'s it.  So I really enjoy the PS2 and Gamecube.

Anyway, enough blabbery from me:D
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: Unicron! on June 01, 2005, 09:59:49 AM
whoah man get out of there! :eek:
Why is this in SA?? :confused:
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: ddaryl on June 01, 2005, 11:38:14 AM
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Originally posted by dawid22
I actually did not mean it in such a negative sense.  MS, is by far the best when it comes to online structure... I believe.


Back to MS, so as you can see, Halo2, Forza, etc (which I have imported) means nothing to me without LIVE support.  Most of the games on the Xbox with good single player games is available on the PS2.  The only ones that come to mind that make it worthwhile to me is Dead or Alive 3 and Ninja Gaiden, that\'s it.  So I really enjoy the PS2 and Gamecube.

Anyway, enough blabbery from me:D



I agree MS and  Xbox does have some improving to do.

It does suck having to wait for those games and the lack of broadband.
Title: Interesting Hideo Kojima Article
Post by: clips on June 01, 2005, 07:07:44 PM
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Originally posted by dawid22
I actually did not mean it in such a negative sense.  MS, is by far the best when it comes to online structure... I believe.

Keep one thing in mind, I am from South Africa and don\'t have broad band here, so to me online is non-exsistent.  You guys in the US and UK think you get it bad, games take forever to get from Japan to the ntsc/uc and PAL regions, etc.   Our PAL releases are later than your PAL releases, we don\'t get half the stuff you guys get, no online (as mentioned), Gamecube has now been dicontinued (so no Zelda for me), The PSP might be here in December, There has never been Xbox in SA (everything is imported illegally)... man, you guys have no idea:p

Back to MS, so as you can see, Halo2, Forza, etc (which I have imported) means nothing to me without LIVE support.  Most of the games on the Xbox with good single player games is available on the PS2.  The only ones that come to mind that make it worthwhile to me is Dead or Alive 3 and Ninja Gaiden, that\'s it.  So I really enjoy the PS2 and Gamecube.

Anyway, enough blabbery from me:D


aight that\'s it...i\'m comin down there to free south africa! s**t i guess them freeing Mandela was just a front..they are still holding down my people\'s...don\'t worry dawid22...reinforcements are on the way..the master race will be no more once i come thru...;)