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Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: THX on June 04, 2005, 02:09:01 PM
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video2a.html

She deserved it yes or no?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 04, 2005, 02:18:46 PM
She was a stupid b*tch, but no...she didn\'t deserve to get tasered.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 04, 2005, 03:08:29 PM
Hell no, she wasn\'t a threat in any way..  Stupid fu@ken cop.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: THX on June 04, 2005, 04:05:13 PM
Well she:

- had a suspended license
- was speeding right in front of an unmarked police car
- gave an attitude (telling cop how to do his job)
- refused to do what the cop told her because she was on the cell phone :rolleyes:

I say she had it coming but that non-lethal weapon is designed to take down anyone, even a 300 lb man.  If the cop used physical force he could have injured her.  The taser is 50k volts for 5 seconds.

She was clearly being melodramatic.  I say she deserved it.  Cops serve the public and work crappy hours with shitty wages to bring peace and order.  They deserve a little respect at the very least.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Luke on June 04, 2005, 04:06:41 PM
I have no problem with that.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 04, 2005, 04:54:39 PM
She 100% deserved it.  She clearly broke the law and didn\'t give two shits that he was a cop.  Then shes going to call someone and tell her exactly where this cop is at?  She even managed to call him racist for doing his job.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 04, 2005, 05:08:01 PM
He should have shocked her a few more times.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 04, 2005, 05:11:08 PM
wouldn\'t want to be pregnet or have a pace maker in the states....
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 04, 2005, 05:23:24 PM
shouldn\'t disregard a police officer....
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 04, 2005, 05:48:51 PM
BANG BANG!!!! FREEZE!!
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: MPTheory on June 04, 2005, 06:04:42 PM
In all fairness, He warned her he was giong to do it 3 times before he did it.  And she swong at the other cop.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 04, 2005, 06:15:39 PM
The kid is from australia, he\'s lucky he can read, let alone make logical conclusions about a situation. (don\'t make me go into mm mode)
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Paul2 on June 04, 2005, 06:47:11 PM
I didn\'t know tasering feels that bad?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 04, 2005, 07:13:21 PM
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Originally posted by Paul2
I didn\'t know tasering feels that bad?
Are you kidding? Maybe I\'ll taser you sometime. :stick:
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: videoholic on June 04, 2005, 07:15:36 PM
It doesn\'t feel great when they shock you that\'s for sure.  But the moment it\'s done it\'s done.  There are no lingering effects.  All drama.


It\'s hard putting yourself in an officer\'s shoes.  Traffic stops are extremely dangerous situations.  The chick wasn\'t listening.  What would you expect him to do?  Just sit there and wait?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 04, 2005, 07:20:16 PM
After careful thinking...

...I think he should have tasered her boobies.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 04, 2005, 07:58:40 PM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
wouldn\'t want to be pregnet or have a pace maker in the states....


You\'re defending her, wow.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 04, 2005, 08:24:04 PM
we just do shit differently in aus, we handle things without having to "taser" people to resolve a issue so dangerous as a 22 year old chick talking on a mobile and not leaving a car.... To do it TWICE to her when she was on the ground basically screwed is just beyond lame.
Being a cop in the states must have been real hard before the tasers came in. Guess they never got around to teaching social skills.  :/
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 04, 2005, 08:36:45 PM
This should be good.......what do you do in AUS when somebodys refuses to listen to the police no matter what they say.  And when they reach for them swings?  I guess the cops should have just set up a picnic, letting her chit chat on the phone till she was ready to listen........:rolleyes:  Spare me all this states bullshit anyway, you\'re starting to look like unicron.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 04, 2005, 08:41:08 PM
We tend to use social skills, which clearly they don\'t teach to american cops ehh.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 04, 2005, 08:45:02 PM
You can\'t actually believe that lady would have listened to anything he said no matter how he worded it.  Spare me this "we tend to use social skills" gayness.  Not to mention she swung on the other cop in the car, but yet again......they should have talked it out.  :rolleyes:
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 04, 2005, 08:49:03 PM
give me a fucken break..  how did cops handle these situations before tasers?  shoot the people?      It was just a plain slack violent solution that was overdone. He wasn\'t in any danger or threatened in any way. Then to taser her again while she was on the ground screwed from the first time is just beyond bullshit. How can u justify that!
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 04, 2005, 08:52:48 PM
How did they handle it befores tasers?  Put themselves in danger by having to physically address her.  Why should these cops risk themselves just cause this dumb bitch is against police?  She could have a knife on her or who knows what else.  Also, all she had to do was listen to the officer.  And she was hardly screwed from the first time.  As the cops stated, they had all been tazed before and it doesn\'t fuck you over that bad.  She was being an overdramatic baby, listen to her "I\'m gonna sue you".
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 04, 2005, 08:58:57 PM
You ever had 50.000 volts thrown through u for 5 seconds flat????   thought not.  I\'m simply saying he could have tried more verbal things before resorting to the taser.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 04, 2005, 09:00:41 PM
Wouldn\'t it just be easier to finally say, I\'m right and you\'re wrong.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: THX on June 04, 2005, 09:35:39 PM
Soul- he COULD have tried to calm her down verbally but he shouldn\'t have to.  Police always need to be in control of the situation, the suspect should never call the shots.

If a cop tells you to get out of your car, you get out of your car.  Otherwise you face the consequences.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Halberto on June 04, 2005, 10:11:26 PM
She swung at a cop, refused to get out, and he warned her multiple times.

She deserved it no doubt.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Luke on June 04, 2005, 10:45:30 PM
Yeah I\'m sorry....



If a cop has a taser pointed in your face, telling you to get out of your car or he\'ll taser you in the face...

You get out of the frickin\' car.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: SwifDi on June 05, 2005, 12:58:34 AM
If it sounds like a cunt, and looks like a cunt, then its a cunt.

I can\'t STAND the race card. Anytime I see a minority use it, they are just displaying to me how ignorant they are. She was speeding, her tail light was out, broken windshield, and no seatbelt, YOU\'RE GONNA GET PULLED OVER, if you\'re black, blue, green, or purple.

Shit, I\'ve been pulled over twice because they thought my \'headlights were too bright\'. Just let the cops do their fucking jobs, they all aren\'t the crazy corrupt bastards that people assume them to be.

Should have pistol whipped the shit out of her... I doubt she leads anything close to a productive life.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Cerberus on June 05, 2005, 01:11:58 AM
It would only show up to the point where he walked back to his car and said on the radio that she had an attitude problem
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Knotter8 on June 05, 2005, 02:25:12 AM
In SplinterCell, we use sticky shockers.

Man or woman, I\'ll sticky shock \'em all ! :laughing:
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Coredweller on June 05, 2005, 09:16:02 AM
One thought:  Maybe she didn\'t know what a Taser was (until now).

She saw a cop pointing a gun at her, and she figured, "no cop is going to shoot me in my own car for talking on a cell phone" so she continued to do whatever she wanted to do.

Now, if a cop pointed an object at me and said "GET OUT OF THE CAR OR I WILL [DO SOMETHING] TO YOU"  I would tend to believe him.  Maybe she was too dumb to believe.

How does the cop get the citizen to obey him, by presenting a credible and understandable threat, without resorting to physical handling that might open them to a lawsuit?  I would guess the rules for taser use are well understood, and there is probably a judicial case history supporting the cops in situations like this.  Therefore, it might be less risky to use the Taser than to use a baton.  The effects of the Taser are well documented.  The effects of the baton might be almost anything.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: clips on June 05, 2005, 09:07:12 PM
didn\'t see the full clip...takin too long to upload from my pc...but just going from what everybody is sayin here, if she gave him a hard time and she was wrong from the jump, you gotta do what the officer tells you to do..yo, i\'m not too big cops, but the one\'s that do try to do thier job, i\'m all for them...i heard she swung at him as well?:eek:...crazy....s**t like that will get you shot!
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 05, 2005, 10:35:10 PM
As much as I dislike police. She had it coming....

(1) Suspended lisence.

(2) Driving over speed limit.

(3) Being a smartass.

(4) Disobeying direct orders.

(5) Was given the option, not to be tasered. He told her . She refused.

Tase her ass. if that is the only way to get through to her, then so be it.


And let me say this about cops. Not all are bad. Want examples? Here you go.

This happened within three weekends.

1: Superbowl weekend. Girlfriend and I are in the car. I\'m driving, notice I am in the wrong lane. Don\'t look real good, and I swerve to the other lane. Guess what? I HIT the sheriff. I literally wrecked and hit the cop. Dented my car, took paint off his. Guess what else happened? Nothing. He realized it was a silly drivers mistake, asked if I was okay, I said yes and he went on. Never check to see if I was drinking or anything. Even gave me his card, so if I wanted to turn it into the insurance.

2: Pulled over twice in one night. Once for no turning signal and going 60 in a 50 mph zone. Got a warning and went on my merry way. Fifteen mintues later, almost at my G/F\'s, get pulled over again. This time for 75 in a 35. I explained to the cop I wasn\'t from around there, didn\'t know it was a 35 (BULLSHIT). He checked my record, saw I had no priors and let me go...

3: Got pulled over, because I didn\'t come to a complete stop and almost hit another cop..Got a ticket on that one...Why? Because it was a woman cop....

Moral of the story? Three bad weekends. Four incidents with the police. One ticket. Why? Because it was a female cop. Cops should not be chicks. Oh and traffic school come this Tuesday.
:p
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Paul2 on June 05, 2005, 10:47:27 PM
interesting story there...
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Viper_Fujax on June 06, 2005, 12:26:32 AM
dislike police? dont be an ass and u wont run into them..but of course nothing can be your fault and its gotta be the cops who always abuse their authority

i dont doubt some policemen suck..but in any group of society, there is always "a few bad apples"..hell in grade school theres always the one kid that asks if theres homework.

and u deserve the ticket for almost hitting a cop,lol. I mean it does suck and its an extreme to not doing any damage. But if some guy almost hit u, i guarantee ud be like "fuck man..that douchebag almost hit me..id ticket the asshole"...well cops can do that so they will.

so to look at it as "not all cops are bad" instead of "some cops suck" isnt cool.

if ur being sarcastic then my bad. But i see dissing cops in the same light as dissing the military.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: GmanJoe on June 06, 2005, 05:42:07 AM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
We tend to use social skills, which clearly they don\'t teach to american cops ehh.


Man...you need to live in the US and see just how hard headed some people can be.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 05:44:24 AM
can be........  when they are, Then fry their asses...
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 06, 2005, 07:17:55 AM
Some people don\'t listen to anybody.  I have kids answer their phone during college lectures and when the teacher tells them to hang up they tell him to hold on.  The taser doesn\'t even get their attention, including that lady.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: mm on June 06, 2005, 09:06:30 AM
i would have done it the 2nd time just to shut her the hell up
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: GmanJoe on June 06, 2005, 09:22:43 AM
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Originally posted by mm
i would have done it the 2nd time just to shut her the hell up


They did do it twice. You can hear the tickticktick sound. She got all horny and started moaning and groaning. Makes me wanna put on my wizard hat and robe.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 06, 2005, 10:22:54 AM
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
dislike police? dont be an ass and u wont run into them..but of course nothing can be your fault and its gotta be the cops who always abuse their authority

i dont doubt some policemen suck..but in any group of society, there is always "a few bad apples"..hell in grade school theres always the one kid that asks if theres homework.

and u deserve the ticket for almost hitting a cop,lol. I mean it does suck and its an extreme to not doing any damage. But if some guy almost hit u, i guarantee ud be like "fuck man..that douchebag almost hit me..id ticket the asshole"...well cops can do that so they will.

so to look at it as "not all cops are bad" instead of "some cops suck" isnt cool.

if ur being sarcastic then my bad. But i see dissing cops in the same light as dissing the military.



Read the f**kin\' post.
I swear, do you even read? Let me clarify.

I dislike the whole police state. That we need people telling us what to do at all times. However, not all police are bad. Some are on ego trips and some aren\'t. I wouldn\'t call me an "ass" for hitting one. It was an accident.

And I never said I didn\'t deserve the ticket. I made a joke about the only reason I got a ticket was because it was a female cop.

Get a grip, bud.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Jumpman on June 06, 2005, 11:11:00 AM
Yeah, and stay out of Riverdale.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: clips on June 06, 2005, 11:22:23 AM
this guy died from a taser...hmmm i don\'t know, sounds kinda fishy in the way they described his death. they were sayin that he was under the influence of drugs and had a crack pipe in his pocket....which may be true, it\'s just when they word it like that,they make it seem as if the\'re saying.."well if he wasn\'t on drugs he wouldn\'t have died" "the taser is 100% safe"...they said they tased him over 3 times but who knows.....

http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/4573220/detail.html?subid=22100408&qs=1;bp=t
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Viper_Fujax on June 06, 2005, 11:30:23 AM
i think its societies fault we need people telling us what to do all the time. not the police state

and the first comment about being an ass was people in general, because a lot of people complain about what cops do but measures had to be taken cuz they did something..and running into ment encountering..bad choice of words
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 12:06:57 PM
If they\'re gonna taser people, atleast do it right.  


Till u see smoke!!!
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 12:17:42 PM
^^^

Your comments are neither funny nor productive to a civilized discusion (remember social skills?) so please shut the hell up.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 01:08:39 PM
heres a non productive comment..


go fuck yourself.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 01:25:25 PM
Ok...get ready to contribute to the conversation...ready...set...GO!! ;)
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 01:29:49 PM
It\'s pretty funny, he accuses me of being non-productive when he\'s little rant was only directed at me and had no value to this thread what so ever...


ohh and talking about the "civilized" world.  When is it civilized to put 10.000 volts through a 22 year old Female talking on a mobile.....   oh thats right, when the cop becomes impatient and can\'t handle it any other way.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Cyrus on June 06, 2005, 02:37:21 PM
Wait I read everything and then watched the video he gave he plenty and was civil yet authotitive and yet she still did not listen bang bang tazer the bitch...
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Cyrus on June 06, 2005, 02:44:50 PM
omg I just wanted to add I have now watched the clip like over 10 times....... It is the funniest fucking thing I have ever seen in my ENTIRE life!!! Jesus crist this woman had so much warning and please watch the clips prior to the arrest this cop was very patient for a bit. She deserved it I would have started yelling IT HURT BITCH DOESNT IT GET YOUR ASS OFF THE GROUND AND SHUDDUP OR IM GONNA TAZE YOU... LOLOLOLLOLLOOLLol
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 06, 2005, 02:46:31 PM
Soulgrind, I\'m sorry, but you\'re a moron.  Why should the cop have patience for a lady that is using to the phone to tell her b/f where the cop pulled her over?  She\'s calling him saying it\'s bullshit when she clearly broke several laws, and it\'s putting the cop in danger by an outside person given information that could harm him.  Just think about it for two seconds.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Cyrus on June 06, 2005, 03:25:18 PM
not only that but he CLEARLY said " get out of the car or Im gonna tazer you, get out of the care or Im gonna tazer you... your gonna taze me.. I said get out of the car or Im gonna tazer you.... this is your last chance get out of the car or Im gonna tazer you.... girl on the phone " he says hes gonna taze me"
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 03:51:02 PM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
It\'s pretty funny, he accuses me of being non-productive when he\'s little rant was only directed at me and had no value to this thread what so ever...


ohh and talking about the "civilized" world.  When is it civilized to put 10.000 volts through a 22 year old Female talking on a mobile.....   oh thats right, when the cop becomes impatient and can\'t handle it any other way.


I already said what I needed to say, and me getting you to shut the hell up is probably more productive to this forum than anything else this thread could supply.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 09:34:31 PM
The cop became impatient. His first threat was the tazer. Not to arrest, or threaten without means of harm. It was, get out of the car or i\'ll tazer you.  Doesn\'t matter how many times he warns her, he was already impatient and threatening a non threatening person with violence... There’s a reason why there’s a little link saying "Are officers too quick to fire Tasers?"

Bozco, try not resorting to insults. It’s just showing what little intelligence you have when you can\'t take someone’s opinions. Giving away imformation that could harm him?   lol give me a break.

Do all you people think just because cops say "It was within reason" it\'s ok?   You do know there are trigger happy cops and dodgey ones too right?  Cops do cover each other asses..
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 09:47:18 PM
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Giving away imformation that could harm him? lol give me a break.
She was talking to her boyfriend and telling him the location where she was pulled over. Her boyfriend could come down there, while she continues to delay things and refuse orders, and when he gets there, he could create an unnecessary and potentially violent scene. And the cop would have to taser him too. ;) Who knows? He might have even brought a gun or some stupid sh*t. Maybe the b*tch will learn from this situation and STFU in the future.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 09:55:43 PM
I very much doubt the bf would have gone to confront the police,  he would have more likely done so when he heard her screaming down the phone while being fried.  Wouldn\'t you if your gf told u a cop was pointing a gun at you then u hear her screaming....   hmmm
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 09:58:55 PM
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I very much doubt the bf would have gone to confront the police, he would have more likely done so when he heard her screaming down the phone while being fried.
You can\'t "very much doubt" anything. People are capable of doing stupid shit. I\'ve seen a guy get pulled over for a routine traffic stop, and the dude in the car pulled a gun out, shot the cop in the chest, and then sped off. Luckily, he was wearing a vest. Human beings are unpredictable and you don\'t know wtf can happen.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:03:57 PM
oh, well i guess next time someone gets pulled over by a cop. The police better make sure they don\'t tell anyone they got pulled over. Someone could come back and bomb the cop shop, or if they\'ve been pulled over for drink driving and they need to call family for someone to pick them up etc etc
Thats the kind of speculation your putting on people. I doubt very much someone would get in their car and drive out to a place where a cop has pulled over a mate to have a go at the cop.. i very very much doubt it...  shooting a cop when being pulled over,  hell yea, driving out to shot one during a routine pull-over..  doubt it.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 10:10:29 PM
WTF are you going on about? I\'m not all honky dory with cops tasering the shit out of people. I\'ve called home for help when my friend got pulled over for drunk driving and my dad helped lessen the situation with the cop. Nobody in the car was being a stupid bitch like the chick that got tasered. If the chic acts like that, you could guess what her boyfriend is like. I was just making a scenario. Yes it could happen, and yes...it could also NOT happen. You are using your opinion as a definite end all to this situation. All I said was anything can happen, and you responded with "nuh-uh!"
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 10:16:54 PM
Bottom line, she didn\'t listen to him.  He warned her repeatidly.  Nobody\'s fault but hers.

ALWAYS listen to an officer when they are talking to you.  They go through too much shit to deal with an attitude.

Oh and who died?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:18:48 PM
I\'m saying that it is a very non likely thing to happen, yes it may happen.. But very doubtful. Its in the same ball park as asking a cop for his badge number and he says no out of fear someone could find out his house address and murder his entire family  It\'s pure speculation....

I\'m not saying cops shouldn\'t protect themselves, or not use tazers. I\'m saying this cop used it to fast.    In the end its all about opinions, don\'t like mine.. Don\'t read the friggin thread.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 10:19:13 PM
The examples you\'re using make no sense.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:23:39 PM
chick gives out address.. cop dies.
cop gives badge number..  cop dies.


both = maybes.   Yet cops still gives badge numbers.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 10:24:54 PM
???

Girls have boobies and you can touch them and fondle them and various other fun things.

And you can die.

But people still fondle boobies.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 10:26:25 PM
I have NEVER heard of getting addresses from badge numbers....
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:26:32 PM
exactly.... now you\'re learning..  Theres risks in everything.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 10:27:07 PM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
exactly.... now you\'re learning..  Theres risks in everything.
By saying this, you just contradicted yourself.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 10:27:43 PM
You sir, are crazy
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:30:35 PM
and i have NEVER heard of people driving out to shot a cop because their gf/bf has been pulled over..

understand wtf i was trying to say yet..
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 10:31:45 PM
You CAN\'T get an address from a badge number, you CAN drive up to confront a cop (and it isn\'t that far-fetched either).

I understand what you are trying to say, but it isn\'t logical.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:33:19 PM
umm  "Human beings are unpredictable and you don\'t know wtf can happen."   don\'t u think those badge numbers have names put to them in cop databases.... u don\'t think certain people can get access to these databases and use them in whatever ways they want?


let me put it another non-tired talking way..  

Someone going out to shot a cop because their gf/bf has been pulled over is as likely to happen as a person getting a badge number or name and killing the cops entire family...
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 10:35:02 PM
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and i have NEVER heard of people driving out to shot a cop because their gf/bf has been pulled over.
Because you\'ve never heard of it strikes out the possibility of it happening? I\'m sure there\'s millions of things you\'ve never heard of that happen all the time. :stick:

I have heard of things like this before (and some have been close to home), but since you\'ve never heard of anything like that, I guess it rules out the entire universe.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 10:36:45 PM
Look at the chances between the two, you are being ridiculous with your examples.  Oh and you never answered my question, who died?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:37:07 PM
You\'ve heard of cops pulling over people, these people calling their gf/bfs and having these people drive out to confront the cops????

Is this a "Only in America" thing ;)
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 10:39:04 PM
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You\'ve heard of cops pulling over people, these people calling their gf/bfs and having these people drive out to confront the cops????
Yes.

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Is this a "Only in America" thing
Maybe, maybe not. But America has some screwed up things happening all the time.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 10:39:21 PM
*sigh*

There is no getting through to you is there.  The chances of a irrational girlfriend frantically calling her boyfriend to get him to come down there, and him actually coming down is far more likely than some hacker getting a badge number, getting and address, and KILLING the officers family.

AND ANSWER MY QUESTION, who died?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:44:01 PM
You find a news report ANYWHERE on the net of this happening...



then i\'ll believe you.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 10:45:46 PM
why can\'t you answer a simple little question....
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:46:47 PM
lol, its a retarded question.. I could rip out your testicles, you servive and that makes it ok?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 10:49:58 PM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
You find a news report ANYWHERE on the net of this happening...



then i\'ll believe you.
What part of "close to home" don\'t you f*cking understand? Not everything has to be proven through a news article. I don\'t give a flying f*ck if you believe me or not. I\'ve seen things like this firsthand in my neighborhood. Now you\'re just ignoring everything that\'s been talked about by saying that stupid crap. I just found a new sig. :rolleyes:
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:51:13 PM
I simply don\'t believe you dood, Anyone can say "that shit happened in my neighborhood"  without proof that means dick all to me.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 10:54:28 PM
You\'ve made no valid points throughout this argument, and you\'re still doing the "nuh-uh" thing...which is rather annoying. I\'ve experienced a lot of shit in my life that you wouldn\'t believe...things that have happened to me. But if I were to tell you those things, I guess I\'d have to scrounge up a f*cking news article for you to believe me. :rolleyes:
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
if it was a CONCERN for the police, they\'d be carrying a low level EMP emitter to cancel out any electrical device in her hands, car, whatever...   Its not a concern.  I doubt very much the cop was pissed because he felt at risk from her telling his location.  He was pissed simply because she wasn\'t doing what he was asking..


and yes, if we we\'re debating over a certain issue and you were to come out and say "ohh but i\'ve seen that happen"  i\'d want alittle more proof then just your opinion.



I\'ve seen a cop KILL a person with a tazer, I\'ve seen it in my neighbourhood.  So you have to believe me.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 11:04:51 PM
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and yes, if we we\'re debating over a certain issue and you were to come out and say "ohh but i\'ve seen that happen" i\'d want alittle more proof then just your opinion.
I couldn\'t care less of how you feel about this.

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I\'ve seen a cop KILL a person with a tazer, I\'ve seen it in my neighbourhood. So you have to believe me.
I didn\'t say you have to believe me, but now you\'re just being an idiot. And it\'s "TASER".
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 11:11:49 PM
Guess what, its also known as tazer.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 11:13:47 PM
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i saw it as Taser, so it must be true....
??? This is a spelling mistake, I was just enlightening you.

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its so easy to talk shit.
It\'s so easy for you to not have a clue.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 11:17:54 PM
You sitting on this thread??? lol i edited that post before you quoted it.

Explain to me how i have no clue?  because i don\'t agree with you i have no clue?  You can sprout whatever bs you want and i don\'t believe you means i have no clue?

simple fact is man, i only believe facts.   Not bs someone conveniently pulls out of their ass after the topic in question has been running for some time.  



for whatever your next reply is,  i don\'t care.  I\'ve stated my opinion on the topic.. Don\'t like it, don\'t read it.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 11:36:58 PM
This isn\'t about the one thing...it\'s about the entire conversation. I haven\'t conveniently pulled anything from my ass. That\'s not what I do and it\'s not who I am so don\'t label me as such. Your reasoning is that because you\'ve never heard of something like that happening, it\'s very unlikely it could happen. That\'s what this whole thing is about, nothing more. And meanwhile, you throw in all these stupid pointless comparisons to cop badges. I guess you\'re omnipotent and have vast knowledge of every little event that happens on planet earth. I bow down to you oh great one.  I think I\'ve had my fill of arguing for now. Maybe we can continue this nonsense later.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Phil on June 06, 2005, 11:40:18 PM
I beginning to figure out why mm doesn\'t bother arguing with you any more.....


But as for my question, nobody was killed.  The officer was fine, the chick is fine, what the hell is the problem here?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 06, 2005, 11:49:57 PM
Cops have to get shocked with a taser before they are allowed to carry one. They have to know what the pain feels like. It\'s a good thing this doesn\'t apply to guns. ;) The affects of getting tasered are short-lived.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 06, 2005, 11:52:03 PM
for gods sake,   EviscerationX, you\'re saying that this chick being on the mobile phone telling her bf is a risk to the officer, i\'m saying that the cop probably didn\'t give a shit and was pissed off that she wasn\'t doing what he was asking.

phil, as i said, just because someone didn\'t die, doesn\'t mean what happened was right or justified. IMO He acted to quickly with the taser and there was probably many ways to avoid the use of the taser so early if at all.    How is this so hard to understand..


ps. whats with all these lame personal attacks.. Signs of desperation probably. Can\'t make a good debate, so insult.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Viper_Fujax on June 07, 2005, 12:06:39 AM
its a weird situation. Souly could be right but its easy to play monday morning quarterback. But if you are a cop in that situation you arent going to be a timid little guy "oh sure ill wait till you get off the phone".

So would using force and take the phone from her cause unnecessary fighting and what-not... arresting her would involve having to drag her out of the car and then this discussion switches from tasers to throwing people on the ground who are ignoring the cop. Pepperspray maybe...but again..when do u pepperspray..
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 07, 2005, 12:23:51 AM
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you\'re saying that this chick being on the mobile phone telling her bf is a risk to the officer
I didn\'t say that she was a risk, I said there was a potential for something to occur, and I also said that absolutely nothing could have happened as well.

Again, the affects of tasering someone is short-lived. You get much more damage from punching someone in the arm and giving them a bruise. Tasering hurts like a bitch (I have one). Me and my friends were being retards and tested it out (even the charge held in the metal tips after it\'s used hurts like hell). The cop-issued tasers are about 20 times as powerful though (the one I have runs off a freaking 9V battery), but they still have the same affect, just for a longer period of time.

Your muscles contract you into a fetal position, rendering you useless. It only affects the neuromuscular, not the cardiovascular. Tasering someone for 1 second will render the average person into a "passive" state. What I don\'t agree with was the length of time the cop tasered the chic for. He did it for like 10 f*cking seconds or something. That was way more than enough for the situation. Maybe if she had become violent or something, then I\'d understand. But again, the affects of being tasered are short-lived, and disappear as soon as you recover and your muscles aren\'t contracted anymore. There are no permanent side affects, so it isn\'t a big deal. She wouldn\'t listen to a damn thing he was saying, and this shit went on for like 10 minutes. What was he going to do, wait another 30 minutes? Would that justify a tasering? What time is long enough for you? Yes, I think he could have taken a little more time with the situation, but there aren\'t a lot of options when dealing with dipshits.

I agree with the tasering, I just don\'t agree with the length of time which he tasered the stupid woman for.

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arresting her would involve having to drag her out of the car and then this discussion switches from tasers to throwing people on the ground who are ignoring the cop.
That would make Soully argue about how the cop should of spent more time talking to her before dragging her out of the car for not cooperating the entire time. Throwing someone on the ground could cause more injury than tasering. It\'s a lot safer than you think. Tasers are designed to end bad situations without causing the person any physical harm. Tasers just make you STFU.

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ps. whats with all these lame personal attacks.. Signs of desperation probably. Can\'t make a good debate, so insult.
You\'ve been insulting too, unless you\'re just completely blind.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 07, 2005, 12:52:30 AM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
The cop became impatient. His first threat was the tazer. Not to arrest, or threaten without means of harm. It was, get out of the car or i\'ll tazer you.  Doesn\'t matter how many times he warns her, he was already impatient and threatening a non threatening person with violence... There’s a reason why there’s a little link saying "Are officers too quick to fire Tasers?"


Don\'t spout little intelligence nonsense when you fall to think before posting.  You assume she poses no threat, but she could have a knife or a handful of other weapons on her in the car.

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Bozco, try not resorting to insults. It’s just showing what little intelligence you have when you can\'t take someone’s opinions. Giving away imformation that could harm him?   lol give me a break.


Once again, you fail to think.  This lady has no problem resisting arrest, driving illegally, and many other law breaking actions.  What does she hope to gain by explaining to the guy where she was pulled over.  She put in the same sentence that it was bullshit and where they were located.  The first thought that comes to I\'m sure a lot of peoples minds, including the cop, is the potential harm from that.

P.S. reading responses that have came since I last posted everybody can see the potential harm from it yet you continue to argue blindly.  

And you\'ve resorted to insults before this.  Calling you a moron didn\'t undermine the fact that I\'ve completely out argued you.  I\'ve had points that make complete and rational sense.  Meanwhile you sit in denial defending a lady that broke the law and refused to pay up.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Bozco on June 07, 2005, 12:58:15 AM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Thats the kind of speculation your putting on people. I doubt very much someone would get in their car and drive out to a place where a cop has pulled over a mate to have a go at the cop.. i very very much doubt it...  shooting a cop when being pulled over,  hell yea, driving out to shot one during a routine pull-over..  doubt it.


On programs like realtv they show shootouts between cops and people over simple traffic stops just like this.  To start giving the person the benefit of the doubt he puts himself in great danger.  As I said just before she was willing to break the law many times before this, what stops her  from getting violent now?  Shes already resisting arrest and acting irrationally.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: QuDDus on June 07, 2005, 01:27:27 AM
While that does seem a little excessive. All over a traffic stop.
 I mean the women is screaming in pain. Just seems awful listening to it. I dunno. I mean he shot her so fast.

You never see her take a shot a him. I think he is just trying to justify what he did. He barely gave her time to get out of the vehicle.

I dunno not a cop. Thats a whole different mental state. So....
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: fastson on June 07, 2005, 02:19:05 AM
That was funny. :D

She should have done what the officer said, he warned her several times. Yeah, he did the right thing.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: clips on June 07, 2005, 05:21:47 AM
guess no one saw my post about someone actually dying from being taserd..:(...anyway i see soully\'s point, but that lady was wrong all the way around, i\'ve also seen on those tv reality cop shows where there was a traffic stop, and the guy gets out the car, takes the gun from the cop and shoots him with it.

yo, i\'ll be the first to say f**k the cops... when i put in a complaint for profiling a couple of years back, they were protecting their fellow officier to no end and acting like i was the one with the problem...:mad:..but ultimately this chick was wrong from the jump, you gotta listen to the police, maybe the cop should\'ve called for back up or something, who knows, but none of that would have happened if she would have done what the cop wanted her to do....
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Cyrus on June 07, 2005, 07:16:36 AM
I think u guys are totally missing the point IT WAS FUNNY A HELL.. I say we find this bitch and just tazer her repeatadly for fun!! I so want to be a cop now every single person i pull over will be " licesne and registration OR IM GONNA TAZER U.. 1 second up BAM........ (girl screaming)

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 07, 2005, 08:04:57 AM
It would be interesting to know if the cop did indeed do it to lighten his day..
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 07, 2005, 10:58:55 AM
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guess no one saw my post about someone actually dying from being taserd..
Do you know how long you would have to be tasered for before you die? Whoever did that must have been tasering them for a solid minute or something without stopping...WTF? Was this a cop? Whoever used the taser in an inappropriate manner should have their privileges taken away. Tasers are meant to be used for a very short time...not going out all hardcore and tasering the crap out of someone for a long ass time until you realize..."Oops...they\'re not breathing."
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: square_marker on June 07, 2005, 12:33:22 PM
She absolutely should have been tasered.  She smart mouthed the officer, refused to comply, and had a record of some sort.  If you don\'t comply you deserve to be tasered, I\'m sorry that might be a bit to swallow for you leftists.  

What I didn\'t like is she called the officer a racist.  It wouldn\'t have matter if she was white or black, if anyone acts and talks like that to an officer, you have it coming

Obey the law, end of story.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: square_marker on June 07, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
for gods sake,   EviscerationX, you\'re saying that this chick being on the mobile phone telling her bf is a risk to the officer, i\'m saying that the cop probably didn\'t give a shit and was pissed off that she wasn\'t doing what he was asking.

phil, as i said, just because someone didn\'t die, doesn\'t mean what happened was right or justified. IMO He acted to quickly with the taser and there was probably many ways to avoid the use of the taser so early if at all.    How is this so hard to understand..


ps. whats with all these lame personal attacks.. Signs of desperation probably. Can\'t make a good debate, so insult.



He may have acted quick to taser, but under the contactually code, it would be ok at that time for an officer to use a taser if he wanted.  Most will not, but he choose to and it is perfectly written in his manual.  He was present, gave verbal directions, repeated them, went to use short physical force, met resistance, at the time being there, he could have used his baton, mase, or taser.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: clips on June 07, 2005, 01:15:01 PM
"Police said officers tried three times to stop the man, who was 6 feet 2 inches tall and weighed about 300 pounds. They were finally able to restrain him after using the Taser gun, but he died on the way to an area hospital."

"It was when he was in the ambulance on his way to Sutter Hospital to get (the Taser) probes removed when he coded, his heart stopped," Sacramento Police Department spokesman Justin Risely said.

^^^just so no one is confused, this is not related to that woman being taserd story....even tho this guy was 6" 2 and weighed 300 lbs i ithink it\'s a given that they might have over used the taser, thing is, is that this guy was resisting as well, and sounds like he was terrorizin\' people on the block. they also stated that he was part of a gang, so he was probably a f**kin idiot anyway....
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Evi on June 07, 2005, 01:26:33 PM
They left the freakin\' taser probes in him? WTF?
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Sublimesjg on June 07, 2005, 02:10:39 PM
did you not say that he was also on drugs before tho clips...?


also soul would it be ok if it was a big ass middle aged guy instead of a 22 year old girl?

i think the only reason someone feels sorry is because its a young lady...if it was a guy then this thread wouldn\'t exist

my thoughts at least
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 07, 2005, 04:06:27 PM
I\'d feel the same no matter who it was..
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Avatarr on June 07, 2005, 04:54:23 PM
FUCK THAT BITCH IS SO FULL OF SHIT! I WOULD\'VE SPRAYED HER IN THE FACE! SHE ACTUALLY FUCKING CRIED?!?! WHAT CRAP!
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: videoholic on June 07, 2005, 05:53:26 PM
I never saw the video from the inital stop.  I\'ve only heard on the radio the actual taser video.

That initial stop she deserved a freaking taser up the poop shoot.  She was annoying and very abusive from the very beginning.
Title: Tasering a woman
Post by: Kurt Angle on June 08, 2005, 12:40:06 AM
I found her screaming very funny. :laughing: