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Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 29, 2005, 02:56:56 AM
Just saw the remake, very cool movie. Although i felt the whole idea of [sp] the aliens planting ships before mankind ever set foot on the world a bit weak, If you\'re gonna take over a planet, do it when theres nothing to resist you. [/sp]  Apart from that it was pretty freaky shit.


anyone else see it?  opinions?
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: Joker on June 29, 2005, 06:18:37 AM
gonna go see it today :D
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Post by: fre4d4 on June 29, 2005, 08:46:45 AM
Another on my want to see list. Driving my wife crazy with my wish list o dvd\'s, i watch then just as fast as she buy\'s them
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 29, 2005, 09:23:40 AM
Tom Cruise is why you guys  are seeing this movie. I allegedly look like him. I feel insulted. I much better looking. You guys should just watch my heterosexual films.
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 29, 2005, 09:25:20 AM
Soulie saw this already? Freakin\' Aussies and Kiwis get to see everything first! NOT FAIR! :mad:
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Post by: Evi on June 29, 2005, 10:53:22 AM
I\'m seeing this hizzy tonight. I hope it rocks.
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: unknown on June 29, 2005, 11:18:38 AM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
I\'m seeing this hizzy tonight. I hope it rocks.


Failed attempt to sound black, judges ruling...yep.


I definatly want to see this movie, tom cruise is a bitchin actor man!
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Post by: Evi on June 29, 2005, 11:27:07 AM
I wasn\'t trying to sound like anything. Jesus.
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 29, 2005, 11:31:19 AM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
I wasn\'t trying to sound like anything. Jesus.


Isn\'t hizzy = house? :p
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Post by: Evi on June 29, 2005, 11:45:17 AM
I don\'t know what the hell it is. I\'m sure it means many things...who knows?

Oym gunna see a good flick tuhnoyt. Isn\'t that royt, mate?
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Post by: JBean on June 29, 2005, 12:28:04 PM
didn\'t plan on it, but my mom is gonna watch my son tonight... so me and the wifey may go see this if we can\'t find anything better to do.

Well.. either this or batman
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Post by: QuDDus on June 29, 2005, 01:29:34 PM
tom cruise is so hot:gfight:
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Post by: mm on June 29, 2005, 02:40:14 PM
do did the aliens die the same way as the original?  what a way to suddenly end a great film
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 29, 2005, 03:02:13 PM
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Originally posted by mm
do did the aliens die the same way as the original?  what a way to suddenly end a great film


Tom Cruise tells the Aliens that you\'ve been here like 3 years before they ever arrived and how l33t you are. And that you own a pet Liger so they all leave.
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Post by: mm on June 29, 2005, 03:05:13 PM
oh, i thought maybe your timid attempts at humor killed them

/shrug
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 29, 2005, 03:07:22 PM
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Originally posted by mm
oh, i thought maybe your timid attempts at humor killed them

/shrug


You can\'t find it funny coz it\'s about you. Besides....

...a picture of your mother chased them away.
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Post by: mm on June 29, 2005, 03:18:27 PM
ahh, the scorned child act.
not as good as souly, tho

pathetic if you think you\'ll get a rise out of me, kid
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 29, 2005, 03:30:07 PM
[sp] The aliens do indeed die in the same fashion. It has points of the movie that relate to the original.[/sp]


and gman, i saw it because i\'ve seen the original and wanted to see how it compares.
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Post by: mm on June 29, 2005, 03:56:45 PM
meh, i\'ll catch it at the cheap theatre in a few weeks then
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 29, 2005, 03:57:45 PM
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Originally posted by mm
ahh, the scorned child act.
not as good as souly, tho

pathetic if you think you\'ll get a rise out of me, kid


Heh...you\'re alone. Make love to your computer.

BTW...you guys should listen to the radio version of War of the Worlds.
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Post by: MPTheory on June 29, 2005, 04:26:41 PM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Heh...you\'re alone. Make love to your computer.

BTW...you guys should listen to the radio version of War of the Worlds.


did that a looong time ago.  Loved the orgional.  Did you know that when people were listening to the radio performance, they actually thought it was really happening?  Kind of an interesting fact.
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Post by: Evi on June 29, 2005, 04:34:56 PM
That shows you how stupid people were back then.
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 29, 2005, 05:05:03 PM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
That shows you how stupid people were back then.


They made the announcement it was just a story just before the radio show started. However, there was no commerical breaks or anything. Some people panicked, most weren\'t sure.
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Post by: nO-One on June 29, 2005, 05:35:22 PM
possible spoilers and whatnot

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[sp]the man in the beginning must have a magic camcorder because it worked pretty well after the emp.

First tripod emerging in all it\'s glory and wrecking the place was awesome and were the reason the movie was good.
Having them pick up people and putting them in basket was not and ruined them for me.

I would have watched a two hour movie with just a tripid stomping a city.

The tenticle eye was stupid, weaving through the house like that, what\'s the point blow it up and leave.
The aliens taking a break and checking out the house then going back to work when the horn sounded was good.
This red goo was not good, they breathed air and talked to each other yet the tripods were filled with liquid.

all in all the movie was ok[/sp]

Evi says: GOOD GAWD. IF YOU HAVEN\'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO USE SPOILER TAGS BY NOW YOU HAVE A LEARNING DISABILITY!! :mad: :thumb:

*no-one\'s response*
pffft if you don\'t want spoilers stay of the internet ;) :p
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Post by: unknown on June 29, 2005, 05:59:34 PM
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Originally posted by nO-One
nO-Ones damn spoiler post.


for the love of god black that crap out next time, I almost read it.
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Post by: JBean on June 29, 2005, 06:21:58 PM
saw it and I really enjoyed it.. I didn\'t know a thing about the story going into it.  I\'ll have to read the book and maybe find the original radio show.
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Post by: Evi on June 29, 2005, 09:15:10 PM
This was a fantastic movie. Lots of human emotion and whatnot. Dakota Fanning is the best child actor ever. Great movie, great effects. Just great. ;)
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Post by: Coredweller on July 01, 2005, 06:17:52 PM
This film Rocks & Rolls.  Very nicely done, and far exceeded my expectations.  

[sp]The part about the war machines being buried in the past and activated by aliens arriving through lightning bursts did not bother me.  I thought it was an interesting and original idea.  The machines were not necessarily buried "before humans existed" as one of the characters in the movie stated.  That was merely his uninformed theory.  It\'s quite possible that they were buried only a few hundred years ago, before humans inhabitated those landing sites.  Given the time required to cross interstellar distances, and the alternate timescale / lifespan of an alien species, this might be quite reasonable.  This movie did NOT specify that they came from Mars, as H.G. Wells wrote.

I appreciated that Spielberg did not pull many punches in displaying the killing potential of the alien\'s weapons.  Not much "dumbing it down" for the kiddies.  This was rated PG-13, and he put in as much violence as he could get away with.  I also liked the way he made the aliens no-so-scary looking when they are seen crawling around the cellar.  It would have been too obvious and boring to make them look like big scary hideous monsters.  That would have been the cheap way out, ala "Indepencence Day" which was complete trash.  These aliens have almost friendly looking faces.  All the more terrifying when you realize they have no sympathy or remorse for slaughtering our species.[/sp]
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: Halberto on July 02, 2005, 12:04:53 AM
I really liked the movie, and I thought the ending was superb.
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: Ghettomath on July 02, 2005, 06:13:57 AM
Blah. What another piece of rehashed Hollywood trash. Aside from special effects there was nothing here. The characters were flat. Tom Cruise is an absolutely terrible actor. Spielberg just took Jurassic Park scenes and used aliens instead of dinosaurs in their place. Tom Cruise is a terrible actor. The ending was the so sudden and so unexplained that when I saw it in the theater the crowd went, "Whaaaat?"

Oh, and did I mention Tom Cruise sucks at acting?
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: Coredweller on July 02, 2005, 09:53:42 AM
Could it be that you\'ve never read the book, never heard any of the various radio broadcasts, and never saw the 1953 film version?  

I thought the entire universe knew the ending of this story.  I guess a few people somewhere live under rocks.
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: mm on July 02, 2005, 09:54:59 AM
i bet 90% of the people in that theatre never saw the original, let alone hear the radio play
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Post by: Ghettomath on July 02, 2005, 06:29:37 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
I guess a few people somewhere live under rocks.


Oh, haha, I get it. Like how the aliens live under rock in the movies. You\'re a witty one Cored.
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Post by: Blade on July 02, 2005, 06:52:21 PM
The acting only really sucked once, and that was when Tommy Boy got scared by the second lightning blast.
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on July 02, 2005, 10:20:43 PM
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Originally posted by mm
i bet 90% of the people in that theatre never saw the original, let alone hear the radio play



what about the musical, did u even hear that?
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Post by: Coredweller on July 02, 2005, 11:30:41 PM
I\'ve heard Jeff Wayne\'s musical.  It was shit.
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on July 03, 2005, 03:25:10 PM
[sp]My take on the machines being buried for millions of years:  1) As Cored said, it\'s just one mans opinion and is not necessarily correct. 2) If they had been buried for millions of years, that\'s perfectly reasonable as well. You don\'t know the circumstances in which the aliens first visited the earth. They could have been looking at the earth as resource potential and planted those machines just as an insurance policy. As soon as word got back to them that an intelligent species was using up all their resources, they acted. That\'s how I look at it, anyway..

nO-One: What\'s your problem with the humans being captured in the cages? Seems fine to me..

The only part I didn\' t care for was Robbie being alive at the end. Too hokie and predictable. Trying to satisfy the audience. Well I don\'t always want a happy ending. Kind of like Mel Gibsons character finding God again at the end of Signs.. too predictable.[/sp]

Anyways, I enjoyed the movie. Tom Cruises acting was fine, and Tim Robbins\' acting was brilliant.  I did want to stab Dakota Fanning in the face, though.

Edit: Oh, and Blade, Tommy Boy wasn\'t even scared by that second lightning blast. At that stage he wasn\'t scared yet and still thought it was fun and exciting.. he was even laughing and had a big smile on his face!
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Post by: Joker on July 04, 2005, 09:15:20 AM
I agree with bobo\'s interpretation as to why earth was attacked in the first place.

*SPOILER* (not really, but some people are picky...)

but when the first tri-pod came out of the ground and started doing its thing my heart was going a mile a minute.

I haven\'t been that excited during a movie in years.

I\'d pay a ticket price to watch the first half hour alone. I just loved the build up to it. Obviously its an alien movie so realism goes out the window, but the first half hour really seemed like thats how it would happen and thats what I loved about it.
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Post by: nO-One on July 04, 2005, 10:13:09 AM
Bobo, mostly it was pointless as a means of frightening humans and it was just so obvious that it was made for Tommy boy to kill the tripod and why did the people only try to help Tommy was the guy that got eaten before him not good looking enough?

Having them need human blood while really frightening seemed wierd too me, why would they need humans to grow an alien plant? and again if they know human physiology well enough to know they can grow alien plants from our blood they should have some idea of earth based germs in our blood aswell our air.

Just many things like that
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Post by: Phil on July 04, 2005, 10:26:35 AM
The movie was riddled with plot holes and Tommy boy is fricken super man on a few occasions.  Still an ok flick.
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Post by: Coredweller on July 04, 2005, 10:55:47 AM
I was just thinking, [sp]Tommy Boy taking out the tripod was a bit of a ripoff of The Empire Strikes Back.  ...but I\'m not complaining.[/sp]  :)
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Post by: mm on July 04, 2005, 11:21:27 AM
saw it again this afternoon

nice to see it a 2nd time and not be distracted by the effects

pretty spot on to the original, although i think they showed too much

we\'re afraid of what we dont see

the ending always made perfect sense.
through natural selection, humans have evolved to withstand microbiotic assaults every second of our lives
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: Halberto on July 04, 2005, 12:36:38 PM
I thought the ending was the greatest part.

[sp] Disease is like  our planets way of defending its native species. It kind of makes it look like disease has a purpose, not just to kill people. [/sp]
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Post by: clips on July 04, 2005, 12:50:13 PM
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Originally posted by mm
saw it again this afternoon

nice to see it a 2nd time and not be distracted by the effects

pretty spot on to the original, although i think they showed too much

we\'re afraid of what we dont see

the ending always made perfect sense.
through natural selection, humans have evolved to withstand microbiotic assaults every second of our lives


haven\'t seen this yet, but i have seen the original, which imo is a classic..and i agree that the ending to war of the worlds did make make perfect sense...i remember when i first watched that classic movie, and while watching it i was like "damn how the hell are they gonna defeat these things? even the H-bomb didn\'t work"...heh remember, bacteria is your friend..:p
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Post by: Blade on July 04, 2005, 05:10:29 PM
Bob: I was referring to the part where he\'s like "OH DON\'T WORRY.. THERE IS GOING TO BE NO MORE BLASTS.." and then wham. "HOLY MOTHER FUCKING SHIT!" hold me.. *hides under table*
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on July 04, 2005, 05:43:06 PM
Personally, I\'ve always found the ending weak. If you\'re going to take over a world, surely with all the advanced technologies you have you\'d have defenses against simple bacteria’s. I doubt we\'d go to another planet without being in Air tight machines and be using protective air tight suits of some type.

imo...
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Post by: mm on July 04, 2005, 06:18:51 PM
but since it happened in a movie and not in real life
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Post by: Coredweller on July 04, 2005, 06:50:07 PM
The original novel was published in 1898, when these ideas about interplanetary space travel and alien vulnurability to microscopic pathogens were very new to most people.  All the subsequent retellings of the story have retained the ending out of nostalgia and deference to Mr. Wells.

I did appreciate the scene from this film showing the first tripod emerging from the crater, but I must admit that the original scene from the novel is rather cool in a different way.  The hatch slowly unscrewing from the cylinder, and the first human peace envoys getting cut down by a death ray were pretty memorable.  Those scenes have also become classics in sci fi story telling that have been expanded and reworked in numerous other books and movies.
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Post by: GmanJoe on July 04, 2005, 08:12:26 PM
Loved the movie. Thunderous affects, Tom Cruise looked scared shitless, Dakota Fanning will win best actress, Tim Robbins stole the show for what little time he had, and I agree....they should not have shown the aliens. Should have followed the same formula like the old movie...the alien hand reaching out....turning white.

Microbes will always get the best of us. No matter how advance we are.
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Post by: Lord Nicon on July 04, 2005, 08:41:07 PM
To jump in briefly: I enjoyed the movie, plain and simple. The aliens were kinda cute lookin though. Not too scary (though that might not have been the point). It would have been a good route if they didnt show the aliens really (sort of like signs though they ended up showing them), but the "tripods" alone were barely enough for me so i didnt mind the aliens being in there.

My uncle and my mother didnt really dig it too much. They much prefer the older version. They are open to the new movies, but this one they said didnt grab them as much.  

Meh.

Good flick.
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Post by: Evi on July 05, 2005, 06:53:42 PM
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Oh, and did I mention Tom Cruise sucks at acting?
I thought he did ok.
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Post by: SER on July 09, 2005, 08:56:51 PM
I liked it.
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Post by: clowd on July 10, 2005, 12:51:27 AM
*** out of **** stars



I\'ve seen the original movie,  so I wanted to see how it was updated,  so I checked it out

[sp]What was thewhole point of the clouds changing color?  Was there a mother ship?  and what was with the wind?  Made no since to me,  the way they landed in the original movie made more since

It was obvi]ous from the get go the director was aiming for the realistic look,  aka Signs,  which Ihated,  you didnt get to see what the military was planning and doing like the original which sucked,  but was done to keep a realistic look,  because if you were one guy you wouldnt know anything that was happening which is suppose to be scarier,  but isnt as fun as seeing them get nuked like the original

That girl actor was so corny and annoying I shared Tom\'s line when he told her to "BE QUIET"  I hatewhoever started this pale blonde head girl with big eyes thing inmovies,  they are suppose to be scary or something,  I could live without this,  believe me

Ending was too sudden,  not that the way it ends was bad,  but it happened too quick,   you dont end a movie about world invasion in 5 minutes,  even if their death was quick,  it could have been at least more dramatic like the original,  where the main guys is about to get vaporized but they die just before they get him

The director did a nice job of updating this movie,  not as good as the original,  but nice

Independence day was better[/sp]

Oh and I remember someone posting a  quote that staed these aliens looked better than Independence day aliens,  lol,  when I watched this movie I thought theylooked identical
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on July 10, 2005, 01:55:36 AM
Independence day was better????  WTF ARE YOU SMOKING.


ohh and the girls name is dakota fanning. She is indeed annoying. Pretty much any movie with a small girl these days has her in the starring role.
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: Avatarr on July 10, 2005, 04:27:34 AM
I think what alliswell is trying to say is: if the independence day aliens fought the war of the world aliens, indipendence day aliens would win. :)
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Post by: Coredweller on July 10, 2005, 07:26:46 AM
I\'ve seen better movies than Independence Day sinking to the bottom of my toilet bowl.
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Post by: GmanJoe on July 10, 2005, 09:13:10 AM
ID4 was a fun movie if you check your brain at the door. But even fiction has a set of rules to follow....no way an iBook can crash the deflector shield program of the whole fleet of space.

Everyone knows that only MS Windows can manage to create that disaster.
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Post by: fastson on July 10, 2005, 09:57:44 AM
I think its a great movie, much much better then ID4.
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Post by: mjps21983 on July 10, 2005, 10:48:13 AM
I thought it was a good flick and made you think a bit. ID4 was good too, but not as good as War of the Worlds.
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: Living-In-Clip on July 10, 2005, 03:19:31 PM
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Originally posted by alliswell
*** out of **** stars



I\'ve seen the original movie,  so I wanted to see how it was updated,  so I checked it out

[sp]What was thewhole point of the clouds changing color?  Was there a mother ship?  and what was with the wind?  Made no since to me,  the way they landed in the original movie made more since

It was obvi]ous from the get go the director was aiming for the realistic look,  aka Signs,  which Ihated,  you didnt get to see what the military was planning and doing like the original which sucked,  but was done to keep a realistic look,  because if you were one guy you wouldnt know anything that was happening which is suppose to be scarier,  but isnt as fun as seeing them get nuked like the original

That girl actor was so corny and annoying I shared Tom\'s line when he told her to "BE QUIET"  I hatewhoever started this pale blonde head girl with big eyes thing inmovies,  they are suppose to be scary or something,  I could live without this,  believe me

Ending was too sudden,  not that the way it ends was bad,  but it happened too quick,   you dont end a movie about world invasion in 5 minutes,  even if their death was quick,  it could have been at least more dramatic like the original,  where the main guys is about to get vaporized but they die just before they get him

The director did a nice job of updating this movie,  not as good as the original,  but nice

Independence day was better[/sp]

Oh and I remember someone posting a  quote that staed these aliens looked better than Independence day aliens,  lol,  when I watched this movie I thought theylooked identical




If you don\'t understand some of those "spoilers" you list, you\'re a damn idiot, who doesn\'t need to watch Spongebob  , Squarepants never the less this movie...

Oh and Dakota Fanning is a great child actress. Not "actor", that\'s a guy.
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Post by: nO-One on July 10, 2005, 04:26:58 PM
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Originally posted by Avatarr
I think what alliswell is trying to say is: if the independence day aliens fought the war of the world aliens, indipendence day aliens would win. :)

True dat, just as long as the ID4 aliens would invest in a good anti virus program
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Post by: GmanJoe on July 10, 2005, 04:46:24 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
If you don\'t understand some of those "spoilers" you list, you\'re a damn idiot, who doesn\'t need to watch Spongebob  , Squarepants never the less this movie...

Oh and Dakota Fanning is a great child actress. Not "actor", that\'s a guy.


I agree. The POV rarely leaves Tom Cruise. The only time I recall the movie leaving his sight was during the lightning strikes into the intersection in the early part of the movie. It would be sorta confusing if suddenly we\'re at the Pentagon War Office.

Hell, we\'re just as confused as Tom was. He heard about the force shield around the tripods from another character. We never saw that until Tom saw it.
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Post by: Evi on July 10, 2005, 05:13:14 PM
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Oh and Dakota Fanning is a great child actress. Not "actor", that\'s a guy.
Actor is unisex now, I believe, so it doesn\'t matter what you label someone.
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Post by: MPTheory on July 10, 2005, 05:21:10 PM
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Originally posted by mm
saw it again this afternoon

nice to see it a 2nd time and not be distracted by the effects

pretty spot on to the original, although i think they showed too much

we\'re afraid of what we dont see

the ending always made perfect sense.
through natural selection, humans have evolved to withstand microbiotic assaults every second of our lives


I watched it a 2nd time also, just to catch anything that we missed. Loved the movie... again.  

Quasi Spoilers below:



On the "plant thing" I kind of took that as more of a "bi-product" than a planned thing.
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Post by: clowd on July 10, 2005, 05:50:29 PM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Independence day was better????  WTF ARE YOU SMOKING.


ohh and the girls name is dakota fanning. She is indeed annoying. Pretty much any movie with a small girl these days has her in the starring role.


I think its preference

I don\'t prefer the realistic/scary alien invasion movies,  I like the funner, bigger explosions invasion movies like Independence day,  guess I should have said IMO since I am in the minority. .  Independence Day was more of a summer flick to me then War was,  I go see alien invasion movies to see things get blown up and humans fight them,  not to see one guy hide from them  The original movie had alot of shooting and and aliens blowing up buildings and stuff,  War only gave you peeks of the action

War of the Worlds tried to be scary and it just didnt get to me,  like Signs didnt get to me

It\'s not like I didnt like the movie
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Post by: QuDDus on July 10, 2005, 10:19:48 PM
Ok I never seen the original. Ok so none of the blahhhh:p

I thought it was ok. I liked it up until the end. No [sp]fucking way his son lives.[/sp]
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Post by: Evi on July 10, 2005, 11:38:46 PM
^^^^^^

Yeah...I would like to see [sp]how that little bastard got out of that huge mess of explosions...[/sp]
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Post by: ooseven on July 11, 2005, 01:26:02 AM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
^^^^^^

Yeah...I would like to see [sp]how that little bastard got out of that huge mess of explosions...[/sp]



[sp] hes an alien Sleeper in human form :p[/sp]


Watched it last night with the wife ... and love the film....

The film worked well due to [sp] the Fact that you where seeing it from an "Joe Publics" point of view...rather than the gun ho of ID4 or the military planning of the 1950\'s film


For me it worked really well because for every setback he faced ... I just thoght..."well thats me well and truely FUCKED if this was for REAL"

Also the sound effects where spot on..esp the part of the film  when Ray & Harlan  where down the farm celler and you could hear the 2 tripods harvesting just outside.

Also on the subject of the "red RooT" ..... has no-one played Syd Meyer\'s alpha centauri  ?

To me the Aliens where using human Bio mass to produce an alien plant to "terraform" Earth to their needs.
[/sp]
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Post by: Evi on July 11, 2005, 02:04:50 AM
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[sp]To me the Aliens where using human Bio mass to produce an alien plant to "terraform" Earth to their needs.[/sp]
[sp]That\'s exactly what I was thinking. That was disgusting though. Especially when the aliens shoved the tubes into the people and that prison with the thing on top that looked like a freakin\' anus.[/sp]
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on July 11, 2005, 02:07:11 AM
I thought [sp]that they were just using our blood because it consists mainly of water, I didn\'t see it as them making plants directly from our blood, just merely using our blood to feed them.  Why waste the resources when humans have plenty of them to feed plants etc [/sp]
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Post by: Lord Nicon on July 11, 2005, 05:26:15 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven
[sp]To me the Aliens where using human Bio mass to produce an alien plant to "terraform" Earth to their needs.
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dur :p I couldnt figure it out at first. My uncle got it right off.

lol @ evi.

It did kinda look like an anus.
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: Avatarr on July 11, 2005, 11:08:07 AM
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Ok I never seen the original. Ok so none of the blahhhh:p

I thought it was ok. I liked it up until the end. No [sp]fucking way his son lives.[/sp]


That was probably a change the made after they screened it to a focus group audience. I really hate how they do that. [sp]The son staying dead would\'ve been an anti-war statement.[/sp]
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Post by: Unicron! on July 11, 2005, 11:47:38 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Tom Cruise is why you guys  are seeing this movie. I allegedly look like him. I feel insulted. I much better looking. You guys should just watch my heterosexual films.
No one watches your films because you are in.Besides.The only thing shown in your films is your "bird" and a woman.The cameran wont risk showing you :p
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Post by: Coredweller on July 11, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
The comment about using the red weeds to "terraform" our planet makes sense.  I wish someone would have the balls to make a film version of David Gerrold\'s "War Against The Chtorr" series.  Those aliens did it RIGHT.  Why bother risking your neck going to another planet and fighting the indigenous population with technology?  Just start terraforming it.  Let your plants and animals kill off the humans for you.  :)  Wave upon wave of bizarre lifeforms spread across the planet, and the Earth gradually turns into something else, which is less and less hospitable to humans.  Kind of a cool idea.

Evi says: spoiler tags are your friend.

Coredweller says:  There weren\'t any spoilers in my post.  You can see the red weeds in the friggin movie poster!
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: hyper on July 12, 2005, 02:16:50 PM
WARNING: SPOILERS!!! Yes, I don\'t know how to use spoiler tags...

Disappointing movie, with far too many plot and logic holes to be forgiven.

What irked me:

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1) All the death rays seemed to expertly dodge Cruise.

2) Dakota Fanning seemed out of place. She kept switching from being too calm and too panicked, often during the wrong moments. Her performance in "Man on Fire" was much, much better.

3) The stupidity of this supremely intelligent alien race was out of this world. According to Freeman\'s introduction, these aliens carefully and patiently studied Earth and its denizens, the way a human might "study the organisms in a drop of water under a microscope." Just as we send probes to Mars to sample its atmospheric conditions for gas and water, these aliens must have done the same, especially if they had already visited the planet to plant their war machines. They HAVE to have known the biology of our planet and MUST have taken the necessary precautions if Earth\'s natural conditions were fatal to them. When humans go to war that might involve drastically different biological or chemical environments, they do not march in without any protective gear, such as masks or suits. I can\'t fathom why a vastly superior species would leave that out of its preparations for war. This could be overlooked if it only played a minor role in the movie, but as it stands, the salvation of the entire planet hinges on this logical loophole. I understand that this is how the book ends, but I would have much preferred it if they had updated the conclusion for modern scienfic expectations. Hell, I would even have liked it if the the movie ended with success for the aliens, but with its course filled with dramtic interpretation, such as perhaps a suicidal final attack by the separate or combined armies of Europe, Asia, and the US.              

4) That scene with the tentacle probing Oglivy\'s house also reeked of a lapse in logic. You know, if it\'s dark and you have doubts as to whether the coast is clear, there are these things called infrared, night vision, and even X-ray scanning. If WE have this technology, there is no reason why an alien race would not have the same or vastly improved versions of them.

5) The son should have died. It\'s also ridiculous how all of Ray\'s family survives in the end. When Ray and Rachel finally arrive their home in Boston, Rachel\'s grandparents and PREGNANT mother are without a scratch. My mother remarked that it almost seemed like they were welcoming them for a Thanksgiving dinner.

6) The movie seemed too small in scope. It\'s a planetary invasion, yet we are confined to the perspective of one man. I liked that unique take to some degree, but it did make the movie feel a bit small for its subject matter. The fact that the war only seemed to last about a week, at most, was also irritating. [/end spoiler]

The few facts that I liked...

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1) We\'re never spoonfed details about the aliens, such as their motives behind the invasion, the cause of the "reverse storms" in the beginning, or the identity of those intestine-resembling blood plants. How would we know? Even the status of the resistance is only handed to us through small and vague trickles, such as when we learn offhandedly through Tim Robbins that the Japanese have perhaps taken down one of the Tripods. Some of the few realistic aspects of the movie.

2) The whole sequence leading up to and after the Tripod\'s first attack was an adrenaline rush.

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Obviously the bad outweigh the good...
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Post by: clowd on July 12, 2005, 02:42:32 PM
I never took the movie seriously,  because its an alien invasion movie

So just like anothe member said,  check your brain in at the door, and you\'ll be fine.  Too many people want every single thing in a movie to be real and have 0 holes in the story but fail to realize that this is simply fantasy.  The groaning over Revenge of the Sith dialogue (what do you expect ouf of a movie that starts with "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away"???) to [sp]How Tom\'s son survived[/sp] is out of hand IMO

Some people wanted a realistic alien invasion movie.  Sorry,  never gonna happen.


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[sp] the cause of the "reverse storms" in the beginning,
 
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For wondering about this you should be watching television on the level of  Spongebob Squarepants,  not a smart:rolleyes: "alien invasion movie" or so says a certain member of these boards

BTW,  I left the movie theater wanting more,  I felt like I was robbed almost.  Not cool for a movie to let you down like that.  The ending was neither happy nor sad.  As I always say,  the ending of a movie matters alot in how good it is
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on July 12, 2005, 09:00:54 PM
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For wondering about this you should be watching television on the level of Spongebob Squarepants, not a smart "alien invasion movie" or so says a certain member of these boards


If you are going to quote me or even paraphrase me, make sure you do it correctly. I never once said " smart ". I simply said that if you was asking such stupid questions, then you don\'t need to be watching the movie. You are obviously one of those peolpe who need someone to hold their hand during every moment of the movie.

It was a decent movie, not the greatest and not the worst.
\'Nuff said.
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on July 13, 2005, 12:18:46 AM
Quite the contrary to what Clowd believes, but when I watch a decent sci-fi movie, or more importantly, read a sci-fi book, I expect it to be grounded in realism.

I am a huge fan of Arthur C. Clarke novels, and the most amazing thing about his books is that while they are fantastic and amazingly imaginative, they are also completely believable.
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Post by: mm on July 13, 2005, 03:27:38 AM
sci-fi is like the opposite of realism
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Post by: ooseven on July 13, 2005, 03:30:59 AM
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sci-fi is like the opposite of realism


Careful emmy...we have retards in here that THINK the matrix is REAL.
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Post by: mm on July 13, 2005, 03:52:58 AM
oh noes!
the matrix isn\'t teh real!!!!11
:ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes:
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on July 13, 2005, 04:00:27 AM
wtf do u mean opposite of realism..  I teleported to my mates place not more then 5 minutes ago.
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Post by: ooseven on July 13, 2005, 04:19:07 AM
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oh noes!
the matrix isn\'t teh real!!!!11
:ohnoes: :ohnoes: :ohnoes:



No i am  afraid  not … so I guess that all them nerds that like to call themselves  UberNeo or something like ..that had better just get a real life and stop pretending that they are fighting the machines in a AI constructed world.

;)
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on July 13, 2005, 04:38:02 AM
Just because something isn\'t real doesn\'t mean that it shouldn\'t sound believable.

Perhaps the better word is plausible.
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Post by: GmanJoe on July 13, 2005, 04:40:53 AM
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sci-fi is like the opposite of realism


Like I said before, even fiction and science fiction have their own rules to follow. Well....except shows like Dallas...where you could die...and it was really just a dream, 20 episodes later. :)
Title: War of the Worlds.
Post by: ooseven on July 13, 2005, 04:42:58 AM
True.. but we do have to remember that this film is a new spin on a old story.

and I for one LOVED it.

*edit*

But I do have to say that one part that bugged me was...

[sp] when he was taking the Van off the mechanic at the start of the film and the guy wouldn\'t go with him...

How the hell did all the noise..people running and destruction pass this guy by ?

he was only round the block from the Tripod...but he didn\'t hear its "horn" or the scream\'n people being wiped out.


its your classic .."walking backwards through a darkend doorway" in a Horror film...

you just as well paint a bulleye target on yourself and be done with it.
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