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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: NVIDIA256 on July 04, 2005, 06:53:58 AM
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I came across this story over at the bit-tech. Apprently Bizarre Creations has been taking alot of heat from the gaming community, mainly being accused of posting doctrine photos of PGR3 backround. Well Bizarre has responded by re-releasing the screens shots with the wire frame included. Take a Look what do you guys think? those have to be the most detailed in in game HD rendering I have ever seen, However we should not be too impressed after all this level of detail is at minimum expected with next gen Hardware. PGR3 is a start for a 1gen game. Also Funny side note, I realize that this game is still in early development, but the buildings far exceed the cars in level of detail. Guess it\'s time for them to start polishing those babies up.
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"This is how PGR3\'s artwork looks right now. On actual 360 hardware."(Bizarre Creations)
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"Yes, it is possible to get all areas of the game that need it up to this level of detail - that’s what you get for 2 years work with up to 35 artists here at Bizarre, plus additional help from outsourcing companies!" (Bizarre Creations
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/07/01/pgr3_screenshots
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Impressive, I was wondering if those were real or not. I think the cars look fantastic.
I like these two...
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(Dashboard)
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(Track Editor)
The track editor interest me the most. There will be five cities in the final game, and you\'ll be able to make your own race track.
J Allard also commented that that\'s just a small part of what they\'re doing. The gamer will also be able to build roads, place buildings, and make their own game art. I\'m curious to see how this all works out.
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really impressive stuff from microsoft..i\'am really feelin that gears of war game too....not to get off topic tho...this game is already lookin good...i\'ve seen very little from the ps3 camp concerning games lookin this good so early...meh i\'m not gonna jump to conclusions...as good as these screens look i\'m still gonna wait for ps3....my motto..one console per generation...still these are some impressive pics....
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The original PGR was great looking but lacked in gameplay, so we\'ll see if that happens again.
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If they are real they are mighty impressive
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If they are real
Um that\'s was the whole point of them releasing the in game wire frames, to disprove any notion of faked screenshots.
Let me reiterate this, I personally am a little bit confused as to why people think those screenshots give a representation that is far too real for next gen consoles, when in fact I consider them minimal based on the potential power that both next gen hardware Xbox360 and PS3 hold.
I do agree they are impressive when you compare them to the previous generation.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The original PGR was great looking but lacked in gameplay, so we\'ll see if that happens again.
What do you mean it lacked in gameplay?
The arcade racing, time, and kudos challenge would take alot of skill, and alot of time, to complete. Need I mention the dozens of different courses? PGR has more features than most other racers, never mind that the sequel improved upon that and added online play.
PGR3 is going to add damage that effects driving, a track editor and more.
That said, I suspect you don\'t care for the kudos system. If that\'s the case then you should definitely avoid the series.
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PGR sucked in terms of gameplay.............................IMO of course...
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PGR sucked
all flash, no substance
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Yeah. Not a fan of PGR at all, though 2 seemed a bit more interesting.
The building models look do-able but the dash.... i dont know why you would need to see that in the middle of the game but meh.
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Well, imo both PGR & PGR2 are fun. #3 is looking great indeed.
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i think rikku mentioned something about cars takin on damage in the game....as crazy as this sounds, i would rather the cars not take on any damage. i reserve that for games like burnout and such. as real as these games try to be pgr, turismo, etc...it\'s still a far way off as far as physics go...i mean when you\'re playin the game, alot of the times you\'re smashing up against the walls and smashing into other cars, when in reality this doesn\'t happen half as much...
i know it all has to do with physics and ai and stuff, but all i\'m sayin is that even with the way games are bein made now, at least on the sym side of it, these types of games aren\'t ready for that true damage effect until they get the other factors down perfectly...
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Nice screen shots. I dont think they\'re stunning, but nice
Extras!
Track editor, game art and a nice online mode look good. This game is drawing me more and more ever since NFS sold it\'s soul to 4 bangers
Too bad it is on an inferior console with too few fun games to be worth purchasing. I probably won\'t miss nothing. It may suck like everybody says the first 2 did
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Originally posted by mm
PGR sucked
all flash, no substance
I\'ve thought that about every racer since \'Pole Position\'.
:)
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obviously, you\'ve never played any of the gran turismo games
shame
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Or Burnout3
double shame
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or Sega Rally
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Nice screen shots. I dont think they\'re stunning, but nice
Extras!
Track editor, game art and a nice online mode look good. This game is drawing me more and more ever since NFS sold it\'s soul to 4 bangers
This is his opener, which he thinks will give him credence, for his next statement.
Originally posted by alliswell
Too bad it is on an inferior console (which I have 0 proof of) with too few fun games to be worth purchasing. I probably won\'t miss nothing. It may suck like everybody says the first 2 did (which I never played)
alliswell let me just state this, "You are transparent" It\'s quite obvious based on your replays both to this thread and the "PS3 $399" thread (which totally exposed your true colors) If you think in any way that you are fooling us, then you have sadly failed.
No go prepare the army, to fight off the EVIL M$ before they rule the world. Maybe if we all collectively pray to the all mighty SONY
they will come and save us from Satan (M$)
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quote]PGR sucked
all flash, no substance[/quote]
I know lots of people that said the same about GT, pretty to look at, uninteresting to play.
obviously, you\'ve never played any of the gran turismo games
shame
Obviously many of us have, but that does not in any way guarantee that we are going to like it. While I am not a GT fan ( I find the game boring) I can at least acknowledge that fact that Sony’s GT is in incredibly well made game, with killer Graphics. My best friend loves GT, and I can understand why. There is no question that GT is a well built state of the art racer, but it all boils down to one\'s personal preference towards gameplay dynamics.
I prefer rally car racing and the arcade type racers as they seem to be far more enjoyable to play.
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grand turismo > *
arcade racing games are for kids, sorry
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arcade racing games are for kids, sorry
mm this is quite the arrogant statement.
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but true, needless to say
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depends on the arcade racing ofcourse
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I love the GT series. I own every game in the series but you cant call, arcade racing is for kids. Well, you can, but its not an incredibly accurate comment IMO.
The burnout series is great. Initial D is a good arcade game as well but i guarantee you that any kid cannot just pick it up and win.
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I loved every Sega Rally game that has ever existed!
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
I love the GT series. I own every game in the series but you cant call, arcade racing is for kids. Well, you can, but its not an incredibly accurate comment IMO.
The burnout series is great. Initial D is a good arcade game as well but i guarantee you that any kid cannot just pick it up and win.
True.Although the majority of arcade style racers(Need for Speed is simply BLEH) are easy to pick up and progress, some need lots of skill.Daytona USA 2 or Scud Race is not a game a kid can play in the arcades and do well.Especially using the manual.
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obviously, you\'ve never played any of the gran turismo games
shame
I own Gran Turismo 3, I found it to be a terrible bore. Could not stand that game.... I have no desire to see any other racing game from Polyphony either. If I wanted a "driving simulator", I would just go outside and drive.....Whoopie-doo!
Now Sega Rally on the other hand, that was a damn fun game, espically in the arcades.
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Now Sega Rally on the other hand, that was a damn fun game
But if it\'s not a simulator then it\'s for kiddies:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
This is his opener, which he thinks will give him credence, for his next statement.
alliswell let me just state this, "You are transparent" It\'s quite obvious based on your replays both to this thread and the "PS3 $399" thread (which totally exposed your true colors) If you think in any way that you are fooling us, then you have sadly failed.
No go prepare the army, to fight off the EVIL M$ before they rule the world. Maybe if we all collectively pray to the all mighty SONY
they will come and save us from Satan (M$)
Mr NVIDIA, you are very transparent yourself, I havent exposed you yet due to my abundance of respect for the members of these forums, but I will hold back no longer
It is quite obvious you prefer the current and next generati]on of Microsoft video game consoles as opposed to Sony\'s entertainment systems, all of this informati]on can be easily disected out of your comments on this board, and by your name, NVIDIA, I can tell that you are into computer hardware and software, live in a one-bedroom flat, you are in your 20s, your not a patient gamer, you probably enjoy shoot\'em ups and fighters, does not like sim racers due to no patience, extra hate for the granturismo series because the cars dont explode into a thmousand pieces like Burnout, easily impressed by screenshots of the side of a building that looks no better than current systems, has deep love for Xbox systems yet attempts to hide it in order to try and trick people into thinking that your comments are non-biased, but are based on logical well thought out ideas
also, doesnt get tired of button smashers, thinks he can figure the true motives of others, probably works at Office Depot or Best Buy, has 3 cpus, only 2 work
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Posted by alliswell, you decide if this is pure 100% fanboyism
Too bad it is on an inferior console with too few fun games to be worth purchasing. I probably won\'t miss nothing. It may suck like everybody says the first 2 did
So apprently he owns the 360
Xbox360 has only Halo
So, fine, purchase 360 to get cheap next gen graphics. Sort of like getting a cheap thrill. Games suck, though
Start saving your money now, friends
Or, you could always go cheap. The choice is yours
I\'m guessing your hoping a bunch of B games and a lower price tag and an earlier release date will push MS ahead of Sony
This is my favourite, like you said "you hold back nothing"
You know, I don\'t think you would\'nt mind having a Microsoft microwave, MS oven, MS TV, MS Speakers, MS mp3 player..
I\'ll let you in on a secret MS wants to rule the console business not just be the top, but be the only one. Their ultimate goal is total domination and submissivness in console gaming. PC gaming is too wild and free to be tamed and ruled, so they turned their attention with great jealousy and envy to Sony, who runs the billi]on dollar industry with ease. Why can\'t we smash these puny corporati]ons and run this industry our selves? We will soon patent games and charge fees for using our exclusive console technology. How do I know this? Isn\'t it evident!! I was at a book store a few days ago and noticed all the multi platform video game magazines had the 360 on the cover, none had the PS3 except for the PS mags, which, to great heartache and dismay, are slowly being bought out by MS. Exhibit A: PSM: I opened last months issue to find a XBOX 360 mini magazine inside claiming it was my next console!! It has begun, slowly yes, but it has begun. Exhibit B: I read a multiplatform mag to discover VERY LITTLE PS3 info!! They said YOU WON\'T BELIVE 360 graphics and had a 5 page 360 secti]on! (they were from E3) Yet they had a little column in the corner for the PS3 with Tiny words that looked like they were in Times New Roman 8 size. Armed withm an unlimited budget and the will and experience to rule what it wants in its eye, MS looks like an unstoppable machine. Unless, of course, We, the gamers, stand up to MS, all hope is lost. MS will be the only company in the business. SLure, Magnavox may make a console but it will fail
Enough said, now go back to bed little boy, it\'s past your curfew.
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On more issue I felt was important to comment on, that I picked up from your post.
easily impressed by screenshots of the side of a building that looks no better than current systems
Right there clearly illustrates that you never even bothered to read the thread, for which you have felt so compelled to comment on. Also you have to be blind or incompetent to actually believe that those highly detailed backdrops are no better in real-time than anything on current ps2/xbox Hardware. It\'s quite obvious to everyone the undying loyalty you express towards Sony. Just quit while you still can, at least you might be able to leave this debate with whatever dignity and grace you might still have.
I havent exposed you yet due to my abundance of respect for the members of these forums
LOL, what a load of crap. You already have disrespected the members here by assuming that they posses an IO of an elephant. Do you honestly think that they are gullible to buy into your useless fanboy dribble. Seriously man go back and read your posts, you would have to be delusional to think that are based on real honest objectivity. By the way I am still waiting for you to exposed me, so far you have done nothing but fabricate stories about my personal life(which has nothing to do with this subject of debate) and provide ZERO proof to back your clams up.
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If they\'re as smart as you say they are then they already figured you out
Have you ever seen the show Pretender? Because thats exactly what you are
You may have fooled the others, but you DON\'T fool me
Everytime you accuse me of being a PS2 fanboy and then post your anti Sony Pro MS rhetoric .. well, thats just really lame
You\'ve become what you claim to hate, and don\'t even know it
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OH MY GOD, Nvidia likes xbox360, BURN HIM! :rolleyes:
alliswell, your a fool, fuck off
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"you\'re a fanboy!"
"no, you\'re a fanboy!"
lol, i love it
:laughing:
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its like the old days isnt it :p