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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: NVIDIA256 on July 11, 2005, 09:02:18 AM
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10033
"But Sony many have other plans for its bank of Gigabit Ethernet ports
The PlayStation 3 will no longer act as a home network router, according to Sony Computer Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi, who has revealed that the functionality has been dropped because it would have been too expensive.
Speaking with Japanese publication Nikkei Electronics, Kutaragi said that the original specification for the PS3 would have allowed the system\'s three Gigabit Ethernet ports to be used as a home router.
However, this functionality has now been dropped since it would have made the console cost too much to manufacture, he admitted - and Sony now expects that users will continue to use their existing router hardware, which is becoming more commonplace in households with broadband internet connections.
Whether that means the bank of network ports on the back of the box has actually been reduced to a single port is not clear, however, as the company has previously hinted that it has other plans in mind for the multiple network ports.
The news that the system was intended for use as a router or hub was first revealed at E3, when Sony\'s Phil Harrison told GamesIndustry.biz that "it can be a hub, rather than just being a terminal at the end of a network."
"Also, we want to be able to have a Gigabit port for an IP camera," he revealed. "So one of the ports is an in, and two of them are through. It can be a server as well as a terminal."."
Well it looks like Sony is staring to get there priorities straight, hopefully they will further deduct in order to reduce the unit\'s price. I think another not so imprtant feature would be the dual HDMI, that\'s something that could easily go and not many would care.
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I also dont\' see the need for all the various card readers on the front. Just have your memory stick slot and be done with it.
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I don\'t mind all the gadgets on PS3 just as long as the end user cost is "Minimal" "Minimal" "Minimal" "Minimal" "Minimal"
Otherwise scrap it. Competition is creating alot of pressure on Kutaragi. He is losing focus...by implementing technological ideas in PS3 which are not in the best interest of the company.
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I don\'t mind all the gadgets on PS3 just as long as the end user cost is "Minimal" "Minimal" "Minimal" "Minimal" "Minimal"
They loose so much $ to produce each unit.. even if they scrap 5-6 "useless" feature, price won\'t go down.
Unless they remove blu-ray and the other hot hardware, dont dream about a lower pricepoint.
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They loose so much $ to produce each unit.. even if they scrap 5-6 "useless" feature, price won\'t go down.
True to an extent, but by scrapping those features it helps keeps the retail price locked at the current price point, otherwise they would not have bothered to scrap the router, which would of
#1 cause the price to increase, or
#2 create more of a finacial burden on Sony Corp.
Every little bit counts when you produce in the millions, so as long as SONY is willing to take the hit financially, and not pass it along to the consumer, then it\'s game with me. Obviuosly they did not feel the inclusion of a router was worth the benifit in the long run.
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They\'ll probably scale back the specs of the cell to get the price down to $299;)
Naw but I expect other things to get dropped.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
They\'ll probably scale back the specs of the cell to get the price down to $299;)
Naw but I expect other things to get dropped.
If they scale back the specs of the cell then everything shown at the Sony Conference are nothing but total bs.
I mean...we all saw these tech demos with scepticism since they look way too complex and detailed to be real time.Downgrading the specs will make people doubt even more.
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Drop all the useless ports for memory sticks / etc on the front. Drop the router functions and redesign the damn controller.
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especially the god damn controller
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Oh, Bad news about the Controller guys
Sony is not changing it, they will only make slight modifications to it. The general shape will remain the same. I have the quote from SCE stating so.
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Well, decisions change sometimes
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They do, but if I am not mistaken SONY is not legally allowed to revert back to the old desgin, since it Infringes some other compaines patent, whom also sued M$, and Nintendo.
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Atleast something similar to the original would be ok
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The new controller looks like the bastard child of a SideWinder and Xbox controller.
Didn\'t figure it would change much .
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Wait! are 3rd parties prohibited from making PS2 like controllers now for ps3?
Has Sony Stopped Production of the PS2 controllers, meaning we better buy spares before they are all gone, or does it not matter since the PS2 contoller might lack features nesscerary to be used in conjunction witt the new controller?
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I don\'t mind the additional cost if the feature in question is useful.
There\'s also a question of "Will consumers reap the price benefits of losing router functions or is it all for Sony?" ...
Of course, I don\'t need a router.. and if I did then the PS3 wouldn\'t be able to handle all of my connections. (3 PC\'s and a cable modem)
Given that the PS3 supports only broadband (?) you\'d think that the majority of users already have their hardware.. so I don\'t see too many tear-stained eyes over this loss..
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why are people making a big deal out of this?
so what, can get routers free after rebate these days
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On the controllers: They were sued for not getting the license up front to use Rumble technology. Nintendo was the only one who did that. Now all three companies went the legitimate way and can legally (or, without repercussions) feature force feedback controllers.
On the router: That\'s good to hear. I didn\'t know it was supposed to double as a router in the first place. Whatever extras it can do, I won\'t use. I\'ll play DVDs elsewhere, HD or not. Sony makes shit hardware and I don\'t want to break it through normal use and have to buy another one. The least I can use it, the better. That\'s how I treat my (second) PS2. DVDs on the Xbox, please.
-Dan
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I\'ve used the DVD Player function on my PS2 hundreds of times and I never had any problems with it.
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If they can bring the price down by at least $50 they would be in much better shape.
As for scaling down the specs of the cell - the stupidest idea ive ever heard.
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
On the controllers: They were sued for not getting the license up front to use Rumble technology. Nintendo was the only one who did that. Now all three companies went the legitimate way and can legally (or, without repercussions) feature force feedback controllers.
On the router: That\'s good to hear. I didn\'t know it was supposed to double as a router in the first place. Whatever extras it can do, I won\'t use. I\'ll play DVDs elsewhere, HD or not. Sony makes shit hardware and I don\'t want to break it through normal use and have to buy another one. The least I can use it, the better. That\'s how I treat my (second) PS2. DVDs on the Xbox, please.
-Dan
Thank God someone knows what the hell theyare talking about.
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On the controller design: I thought the company that sued sony was suing them for the technology used in the controller not the design itself.
If thats the case then i see no reason for the design of the new controller. Dont get me wrong, im all about change at some points but the new controller just looks far too uncomfortable. Perhaps its really small and easier to use than expected (due to japanese gamers).
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Originally posted by QuDDus
They\'ll probably scale back the specs of the cell to get the price down to $299;)
Naw but I expect other things to get dropped.
It will never happen! PS3 will be released with superior hardware compared to XBox360, now Sony want the most powerful piece of hardware, and they have at least 6 months more over the main competitor to do it!
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i don\'t see them scaling down the cell at all....that would be absurd. i remember them sayin that ps2 was supposed to have all kinds of capabilities, but by the time it\'s fully realized, it\'s time for the next jump in console evolution. sony shouldn\'t try to make each system have EVERYTHING in it. in the long run it\'s a waste of time. just give it features that everybody will most likely use...
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Originally posted by clips
i don\'t see them scaling down the cell at all....that would be absurd. i remember them sayin that ps2 was supposed to have all kinds of capabilities, but by the time it\'s fully realized, it\'s time for the next jump in console evolution. sony shouldn\'t try to make each system have EVERYTHING in it. in the long run it\'s a waste of time. just give it features that everybody will most likely use...
Yep! The hardware is finalized, Cell and RSX are finalized ! ...""and Sony now expects that users will continue to use their existing router hardware, which is becoming more commonplace in households with broadband internet connections.""