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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: clowd on July 12, 2005, 03:12:43 PM
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http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-15015-2272-4-4-x
Gamers in Japan are looking forward to the PlayStation 3, but they have almost zero interest in the Xbox 360. Those are the results of a private survey taken by Infoplant, a marketing research company, which found that 60 percent of gamers picked Sony\'s PlayStation 3 as the next-generation console that they are looking forward to the most, but only 2 percent were interested in Microsoft\'s Xbox 360. Nintendo\'s Revolution came in second place at 8 percent.
The lack of interest in the Xbox 360 among Japanese gamers isn\'t surprising, considering how poorly the current-generation Xbox console has been doing in the country. According to a recent report by Famitsu, the Xbox console sold only 9,045 units throughout Japan during the first half of 2005. In comparison, the PlayStation 2 sold 1,286,882 units, and the GameCube sold 159,559 units. Not a single title for the Xbox ranked in the top 100 sales chart for the six-month period.
The survey\'s results must be troubling for Microsoft, which is waging a widespread campaign to interest Japanese consumers in the Xbox 360. The company has announced a number of famous developers that will be creating games exclusive to its next-generation console, including former Square producer Hironobu Sakaguchi and Sega\'s Tetsuya Mizuguchi.
However, the all-new 360 games apparently aren\'t generating as much attention as Microsoft had hoped. 80 percent of the surveyed gamers said they were most interested in playing sequels of major current titles on the next-generation consoles, and 30 percent said they are looking for remakes of past titles. The top three genres that gamers are looking forward to are role-playing games at 70 percent, followed by strategy and action games, both at around 50 percent.
Another major obstacle to Microsoft\'s 360-promotion effort is Sony\'s corporate brand name, which is still strong in Japan. Infoplant noted that many of the people surveyed picked the PS3 as their top choice simply because it was from Sony, or because it was the successor to the PS2.
Infoplant\'s research was conducted with a sample of 1,000 console owners that were equally split into four age groups; 250 gamers in their teens, 250 in their 20s, 250 in their 30s, and 250 in their 40s. The male-to-female ratio for each age group was 50-50.
How will Microsoft prove to be any type of competition to Sony if they have 0 market in Japan?
Boy these people are smart, it\'s quite obvious to them as it is to me which Next Generation machine will give you the most bang for your buck.
Too bad alot of people over here in the west somehow fail to see that.
Japanese gamers > all other gamers
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Originally posted by alliswell
Japanese gamers > all other gamers
Not necessarilly
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Not necessarilly
Anybody who ignores a console thats as generic as they come is pretty smart in my book.
I got to get this out of my system. What;s up with the name and design? I won\'t get into the "360" name, but what\'s the theme for the design of the console? It\'s basically a rectangle with only 2 memory card slots, a power button, and a disc tray. Thats it folks. It\'s a step above the PSone, if that
After looking at the sales numbers again, I\'m not surprised. These people are smart enough to realize the PS2 and 3 have and will have 10x the amount of AAA games as the 360.
The Xbox\'s biggest game, a PC shoot\'em up ported from the PC called Halo, has no market in Japan. = why the Xbox sells poorly in Japan.
I wonder what the numbers are in the West, if they are similar, then I repeal my comment on Eastern gamers being more savvy
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People in the west don\'t know anything about the next gen systems. Ask someone on the street and they\'ll say f*ck you gimme your wallet.
Pretty crazy figure in that poll. Will the Xbox come out sooner and cost less in Japan as well as the US?
Like every generation I\'m rooting for both systems (nintendwho?) as history has shown the market can support the competition. I\'m sure the PS3 will have the best games, but 360 is no slouch.
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None of the percentages in that make any kind of sense for comparison\'s sake.
Apparently only 68% of Japanese gamers picked a next-gen system and among strategy, action and RPG games, 170% of Japanese gamers are looking forward to one of those the most.
-Dan
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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did u add that smiley just for that post? :)
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You know.....when counting people I didnt know you could go over 100%.....but i guess I was wrong.
Japan just hates that Bill Gates is white.
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I don\'t live in Japan.
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Too bad alot of people over here in the west somehow fail to see that.
No just you, we perfer over here in the west to have an open objective mind, which is why we own more than 1 console. America and Europe have no legence to SONY we buy what best suits our needs, rather then have them dictated to us by some 12 year old brat.
Japanese gamers > all other gamers
Please explain, so that you can further make an A$$ out of yourself.
I have a Serious Question for you. DO you work for SONY\'s PR department? If not then what a pitty slaving away FREE, for SONY.
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Oh yay. Another poll. A poll taken before launch games have been announced. We know this poll is so accurate.
:rolleyes:
I got to get this out of my system. What;s up with the name and design? I won\'t get into the "360" name, but what\'s the theme for the design of the console? It\'s basically a rectangle with only 2 memory card slots, a power button, and a disc tray. Thats it folks. It\'s a step above the PSone, if that
After looking at the sales numbers again, I\'m not surprised. These people are smart enough to realize the PS2 and 3 have and will have 10x the amount of AAA games as the 360.
The Xbox\'s biggest game, a PC shoot\'em up ported from the PC called Halo, has no market in Japan. = why the Xbox sells poorly in Japan.
Uni, bud, you can step down as the resident \'board idiot\'. Someone has filled your spot, his name is Alliswell.
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Wow.
Man, I should really start looking closer. There\'s no way I would miss something so dumb.
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Someone get back to me when launch games are announced and prices for both consoles. Then I\'ll pay attention to these polls, until then, it\'s just pointless. Espically when you take that the announcement of one major title can change the course of things ( > points to the "Ultra 64" losing FF7 and Sony\'s "PSX" getting it<).
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Someone has filled your spot, his name is Alliswell.
Mr. Alliswell, as you have noticed recently has begun dramatically increasing his trolling habits here in the console debating, which I have to some extent take responsibility for, since my presence here has riled him up and driven him further to PR for SONY. His threads if you re-asses them Cleary are meant as counter attacks against the 360 news/discussions. What he fails to realize is the reason why Most topics will be 360 related is because the system is coming out in 4 1/2 months from now, therefore it is only logical that more oncoming information is going to be accessible to the public for open discussion.
Funny thing is I enjoy his campaigning, he\'s sort of like the forum Jester, here to entertain us with is idiocy.
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80 percent of the surveyed gamers said they were most interested in playing sequels of major current titles on the next-generation consoles, and 30 percent said they are looking for remakes of past titles. The top three genres that gamers are looking forward to are role-playing games at 70 percent, followed by strategy and action games, both at around 50 percent.
interesting. I guess I am among the people that are interested in remake of the game.
Its understandable on how they get 80% want sequel and 30% want remake. Its like among the 80% who like sequel also like a remake. Hence, making it over 100% score.
But i didn\'t get the next one...umm..nevermind, i think i do now...70% gamer most looking forward is RPG, and among those also like strategy and action games...with 50% like strategy and 50% like action.
I guess its because they get to voted more than one genre of game...hence, may explain why it reach over 170%...
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No matter what, the article is poorly written and ultimately fails to prove any points.
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Originally posted by Phil
No matter what, the article is poorly written and ultimately fails to prove any points.
Kudos to this member for noticing this .
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xbox 2 will fail in japan, and therefor lose the "console war" again
dont kid yourselves
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Originally posted by mm
xbox 2 will fail in japan, and therefor lose the "console war" again
dont kid yourselves
Agian....?
But i can\'t its DA PS2 sorry PS3 KULLER !!!!111!11!!11!!111One :p
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Originally posted by mm
xbox 2 will fail in japan, and therefor lose the "console war" again
dont kid yourselves
Have you seen the future?
Will it most likely fail? Sure.
Can things change? Yes.
I don\'t understand why it is so hard to just wait until the games are out and then judge the console.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Have you seen the future?
Will it most likely fail? Sure.
Can things change? Yes.
I don\'t understand why it is so hard to just wait until the games are out and then judge the console.
Exactly … tough I do have to say out of all the next gen-ers there is only one so far that I will buy no matter what …and that’s the Revolution.
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funny, LIC
the same thing was said right before the xbox launched in japan
who\'s judging the console?
im telling you it will flop in japan
that\'s just common sense
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We all know how Japanese gamers are as consumers ; own product first. But the size advantage the PS2 has over Xbox is no more with PS3 vs Xbox360.
For most ppl all next gen consoles are still vaporware. More Japanese devs have stated they love Xbox360 development already. Once those games get into Famitsu I\'m sure that\'ll generate more interest for Xbox360 in Japan.
Enough to win the \'next gen console war\' ? Most probably NO.
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:rofl:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/12/news_6128889.html
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Originally posted by alliswell
The Xbox\'s biggest game, a PC shoot\'em up ported from the PC called Halo, has no market in Japan. = why the Xbox sells poorly in Japan.
Ehh, Halo was a Xbox port to pc, not a pc port. It was released on Xbox first.
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Ehh, Halo was a Xbox port to pc, not a pc port. It was released on Xbox first.
I think he means it was originally meant for PC, Bungie went bankrupt and MS bailed them out provided they make their game for the Xbox.
Still wrong because the actual PC version of Halo is so crappy that *it* is considered the port. :p
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Ehh, Halo was a Xbox port to pc, not a pc port. It was released on Xbox first.
No. It was originally shown off for the Macintosh G4 and ended up going exclusively to the Xbox (at first) because Microsoft bought out Bungie.
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So, I\'m still not wrong, maybe on the port sides of it. But not on what it was released on first.
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Yes...it was released on Xbox first because of what happened with Microsoft. It was also going to be released on the PS2 as well before the incident. You can read all about what happened here:
http://halo.bungie.org/misc/msacquisitionfaq/
Interesting snippet:
Back in the days when Bungie was a Mac-only company...
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Well, if you look through the old PC Gamer mags, you\'ll see that Halo was the super killer app that could run on nVidia\'s TNT2 and was later the killer app for the original GeForce256 and GeForce2. Just shows you how long it was under development. :)
Anyhoo, about XBox being shit in Japan. I\'ve never been to Japan myself and all the japanese people I know aren\'t real psychos. But from what I hear from my teachers and local japs, japanese people in japan are Nazis. The main reason why XBox didn\'t do well and isn\'t going to do well in Japan is because it isn\'t japanese!
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!!!!!!!!!!
what kind of village do you live in?
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same one as sammy. the one with the indian, police officer and navy sailor.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
Well, if you look through the old PC Gamer mags, you\'ll see that Halo was the super killer app that could run on nVidia\'s TNT2 and was later the killer app for the original GeForce256 and GeForce2. Just shows you how long it was under development. :)
Anyhoo, about XBox being shit in Japan. I\'ve never been to Japan myself and all the japanese people I know aren\'t real psychos. But from what I hear from my teachers and local japs, japanese people in japan are Nazis. The main reason why XBox didn\'t do well and isn\'t going to do well in Japan is because it isn\'t japanese!
They sure love American music, American fashion, American athletes, baseball, basketball and football. They also love German cars. Doesn\'t sound all that crazy to me. They do have some kookiness as far as sex goes....but who doesn\'t? :)
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yeah but they hate Korea, so they\'re Nazis.
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They do have some kookiness as far as sex goes....but who doesn\'t?
The legal age for consent in Japan is 13. That isn\'t just "kooky"...it\'s disgusting. Damn pedophiles.
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uh, maybe you\'re the pedophiile. ever heard of two 13 year olds going at it with each other? duuhh!
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Originally posted by Avatarr
yeah but they hate Korea, so they\'re Nazis.
I think it\'s the other way around. Every Korean I know, from highschool, college and here at work do not like the Japanese much. When it comes to historical grudges, the Chinese and Koreans will never forgive Japan for another 150 years.
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japanese gamers are stupid and everyone knows that. Thats why american pop culture is eating up japan:rofl: just give them more mariah carey and wu-tang
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Well pop culture is eating up everything that is real culture anyways :p
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Originally posted by Avatarr
uh, maybe you\'re the pedophiile. ever heard of two 13 year olds going at it with each other? duuhh!
Duh what? WTF are you talking about? I was informing you of the perverted age limits in Japan. The "age of majority" there is 20...meaning the age for drinking/smoking/etc...but they allow 13 year olds to have sex. They have a distorted view on things. It\'s kind of like the United States. You can fight and die for your country at 17, but you can\'t drink, smoke or rent a f^cking car. So freaking lame.
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The "age of majority" there is 20...meaning the age for drinking/smoking/etc...but they allow 13 year olds to have sex
It\'s not like ppl dont drink / smoke cigs or weed before 20 because it\'s illegal.
If at 13 your body grows your pubic hair and give yous nightly erection.. i dont see whats wrong with having sex.
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:eek:
pedophile!
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Originally posted by Nolaws
It\'s not like ppl dont drink / smoke cigs or weed before 20 because it\'s illegal.
If at 13 your body grows your pubic hair and give yous nightly erection.. i dont see whats wrong with having sex.
If I have a daughter, stay far away from her.
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jesus, you arseholes are taking away all the fun. when I was 13, I had a really really really really hot PE teacher. if anyone ever found out about our fling, she\'d be carted off to the big house faster than you can say arigatou!
how in god\'s name did this turn from a thread about the XBox360 to kiddie sex?
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I had a really really really really hot PE teacher
Did you really have a fling with her, cause if so, YOU DA MAN!!!
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pedophile!
If I have a daughter, stay far away from her.
What?? when did i ever say I[/u] was turned on by 13y old girl ?
I said it was normal "nature" for the human mind and body to think and perform sexual stuff at 13year olds.
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^^Isn\'t the legal age in Canadia 14 or around there?
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16 in canada
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I think it used to be 14 in Hawaii...
Oh and uh...Xbox 360 appears like it\'s going to suck ass yet again in Japan.
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
Did you really have a fling with her, cause if so, YOU DA MAN!!!
HAHA, I wanted to, but alas, I speak bull poop. BUT IF IT WERE TRUE, SHE\'D BE IN A WHOLE HEAP OF POOP WOULDN\'T SHE!
so yeah, XBox360 n stuff...
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When I was in Grade 6, I was ready willing and able to F**K my teachers brains out, No JOKE! Believe me be, if I had my way with her she would be coming to class with crunches for a week. this hottie was a 8-9. Every time she bent over all the guys in our class would sigh in despair.
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if I had my way with her she would be coming to class with crunches for a week.
Crunches?
Get back to the damn topic!
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Crunches?
Don\'t play coy, you know dam well what i ment there:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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She should find a better time than during class to do crunches. ;)
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case in point:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162854,00.html
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"Insanity" is only a term used in court cases. It\'s not a medical term. She was insane numerous times with a 14 year old. She\'s a stupid whore.
Since you don\'t want to get back to the fuggin\' topic...here\'s a nice random pic for you:
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftinypic.com%2F91azhc.jpg&hash=6f641d7724ad56de2273f4c377da0b26d5652c87)
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haha XBOX 360! I have no idea how this thread got so derailed.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
case in point:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162854,00.html
*looks at sig*
Mmm Hmm... 9-10 grade homeroom teacher = DAMN.
Oh yeah. X360 :shy:
damn japanese.