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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: THX on July 20, 2005, 10:06:08 AM
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http://ranobe.sakuratan.com/up/updata/up46829.jpg
Coming to Xbox360 and PS3.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/635/635114p1.html
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Nice. Resident Evil 5 is lookin\' good. :D
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/shrugs.
Doesn\'t mean a thing. Look at how many times RE / RE 2 / RE4 went through redesigns before being released.
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RE is dead IMO, been there, done that, doing it tomorrow. Maybe it\'s time for capcom to try something new.
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Hey here\'s a video:
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/734/734381/vids_1.html
They run in this one!!
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Originally posted by THX
Hey here\'s a video:
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/734/734381/vids_1.html
They run in this one!!
Holy crap...hope the game looks that nice. :eek:
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They run, fantastic :rolleyes:. One step closer to a pure shoot \'em up. What happened to survival horror?
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^ maybe not as bad as you think:
heat will be a factor and "when it\'s particularly hot, you\'ll want to cool down in a cave."
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/635/635114p1.html
Hopefully more little things like this to keep it challenging and realistic at the same time.
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Since the game is multiplatform hopefully it won\'t suffer from restrictive DVD format, meaning the game maybe could need large space blu-ray disks have but instead was restricted to DVD so it could be sold on all platforms
This could be a big problem for all new multiplatform games, developers puttting all multiplatform games on DVD just so they can sell the game on all systems, instead of taking of advantage of the BR space
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Since the game is multiplatform hopefully it won\'t suffer from restrictive DVD format, meaning the game maybe could need large space blu-ray disks have but instead was restricted to DVD so it could be sold on all platforms
GO AWAY TROLL!!!! WE see right through you....
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Impressive!:eek:
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
GO AWAY TROLL!!!! WE see right through you....
Although he trolled a few times(no way a fighting game will need more than 4GB of storage) it could be a possibility now that I think of it.
I am not expecting the Blu Ray\'s storage to be used at maximum (I believe it has more than enough) but some games might need more than 8GB of storage now that we are moving to the High Definition era.
GT4 and San Andreas both games of this generation used almost fully the dual layered DVD\'s storage if I am not mistaken.
Imagine the storage more detailed, more advanced, more complex, higher resolution games will need the next generation.
hmm....GT5 and the next GTA anyone?
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no way a fighting game will need more than 4GB of storage
Team Ninja would tell you otherwise (DOA 4).
GT4 and San Andreas both games of this generation used almost fully the dual layered DVD\'s storage if I am not mistaken.
SA is single-layered, I believe.
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Team Ninja would tell you otherwise (DOA 4).
Yeah but I am refering to in-game data.Not high definition FMV\'s.
SA is single-layered, I believe.
I remember double layer.Not that I am 100% sure about it
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GTA SA is 3.6GB = Single layer
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I remember double layer.Not that I am 100% sure about it
You remember? From where? You must not own the game. :stick:
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Nope I dont.I remember a few things though before the game was released.The developers stated something about dual layered I think.Probably it was just hype.
Or I confused it with another game.
I said I wasnt 100% sure.
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Or I confused it with another game.
I\'m guessing that\'s the case.
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Are there any games on dual layered DVDs? I dont think there are, and I rather not be bothered with changing/flipping discs anymore, thats so PS1
I know GT4 pushed the DVD to the limit, lets say for example each car is 4mb x 700 cars = 2.8 GB
50 tracks at 20mb a piece = 1GB
cars 2.8mb
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tracks 1mb
= 3.8 GB = 1 DVD
I just guessed at these numbers, but they probably are close to the real thing. I\'m sure PD used 80%+ of the DVD on GT4
Now how will PD ever get 100 tracks and 1,000+ cars on a DVD with PS3 resolution etc?
I\'d rather not have the game split up on a dual DVD, and I dont think it is even possible to fit GT5 on a DVD, dual or not, unless it has 300 or less cars, it will be on a blu-ray disk, believe me.
So back to topic, I\'m hoping multiplatform games like RE5 arent\' scaled back to fit on DVD, when they can be fully realized on a blu ray disk
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Your back on topic, is barely on topic. Please refrain from trolling and pulling numbers out of your ass.
Thank you.
As for the whole cave thing, meh, I see it as nothing more than a modified save room. I really don\'t see it having as much of an effect on the style the latest games have taken on. I\'m just worried it\'s going to be, oh no, I\'m almost too hot, let me pull out my assault rifle and gun down everything with my almost limitless amount of ammo so I can go to my cave quicker. RE has made me jaded.
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Please refrain from trolling and pulling numbers out of your ass.
I agree.
I just guessed at these numbers, but they probably are close to the real thing.
I don\'t agree...WTF? Were you smoking something potent when you came to that conclusion?
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Current ps2 DL games i know of.
GT4 is dual layer
God of War
MGS2
Champions of Norrath
The Guy Game
Wild Arms: Alter Code F
Xenosaga Episode 1: Der Wille zur Macht
Kessen 3
Madden NFL 2005: Collector\'s Edition
Sakura Taisen Atsuki Chishio Ni
theres probably a lot more.
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
Current ps2 DL games i know of.
GT4 is dual layer
I\'m not a tech person, is dual layered where both sides of the disks have info? Thats what I think it is since I\'ve came across several movies that way. GT4 is not that way, unless dual layered doesnt always mean both sides have data
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no.. thats double sided dvds. Dual layer is when the dvd holds 2 layers of info on one side. The lens switches layers.
"ow Dual-Layer DVD Media Works
Dual-layer DVD-Video media has been used for several years by the DVD movie industry. Dual-layer DVDs have a thin substrate layer between the first and second layers of DVD data. Single-sided dual-layer DVD-Video media is known as DVD-9. Note that DVD+R DL is also referred to as DVD+R9. It has a capacity of 8.5GB (slightly less than twice the 4.7GB capacity of standard DVD-5 media). It\'s also possible to have double-sided dual-layer DVD-Video media, known as DVD-18; some movie vendors use this technology to place widescreen (letterbox) and fullscreen (4:3 TV format) versions of a film on a single DVD. The user inserts the media into the DVD player or drive with the widescreen side up to view the film in its original format. By inserting the media with the fullscreen side up, the film can be viewed in its modified TV format. Almost all DVD set-top boxes and DVD-ROM drives except for possibly some very old models can read DVD-9 and DVD-18 media. Inside the drive, a single laser is refocused when switching between layers, accounting for a slight delay when moving from the top to the bottom layer"
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Originally posted by Phil
Please refrain from trolling and pulling numbers out of your ass.
Trolling? How exactly am I trolling? Anytime I say something that may seem or is anti-xbox it is trolling? If Microsoft said they were going to buy out Square or soemthing and I said I didnt like it would that be trolling? Please don\'t copy and paste what your buddies say
Making up numbers? Those numbers are more of an educated guess then anything, educated as in I\'ve downloaded myriads of tracks and cars online for other sim racers and know how many mbs they usually are
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MGS2
That isn\'t a DL game. Doesn\'t say that on the box.
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
no.. thats double sided dvds. Dual layer is when the dvd holds 2 layers of info on one side. The lens switches layers.
"ow Dual-Layer DVD Media Works
Dual-layer DVD-Video media has been used for several years by the DVD movie industry. Dual-layer DVDs have a thin substrate layer between the first and second layers of DVD data. Single-sided dual-layer DVD-Video media is known as DVD-9. Note that DVD+R DL is also referred to as DVD+R9. It has a capacity of 8.5GB (slightly less than twice the 4.7GB capacity of standard DVD-5 media). It\'s also possible to have double-sided dual-layer DVD-Video media, known as DVD-18; some movie vendors use this technology to place widescreen (letterbox) and fullscreen (4:3 TV format) versions of a film on a single DVD. The user inserts the media into the DVD player or drive with the widescreen side up to view the film in its original format. By inserting the media with the fullscreen side up, the film can be viewed in its modified TV format. Almost all DVD set-top boxes and DVD-ROM drives except for possibly some very old models can read DVD-9 and DVD-18 media. Inside the drive, a single laser is refocused when switching between layers, accounting for a slight delay when moving from the top to the bottom layer"
Thansk for clearing that up
I didnt know about that, I just thought dual layered meant both sides were readable, totally changes my whole perspective
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
That isn\'t a DL game. Doesn\'t say that on the box.
wanna make a bet?
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hmmm...
i put my metal gear solid 2 disc into the computer and it read 4.30 GBytes. That sounds like a singel layer to me because dvd can store up to 4.38 Gbytes for single layer.
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Originally posted by alliswell
I\'m not a tech person.
Well than how the hell are you going to make an educated guess. Downloading tracks from other games is hardly grounds for making anything resembling an educated guess. Are they user made tracks, or extra tracks provided by the company? Maybe the company got lazy on trying to keep the size down since they are add-ons. Too many variables for an educated guess. For Christ\'s sake, it\'s not even the same game! That\'s why I say it\'s pulling numbers out of your ass.
And just out of curiousity, why is having two discs so bad? I didn\'t see anyone bitching in the FF7 appreciation thread about having to get up to change discs.
God, I wish I had something to keep this on topic, but nobody is even talking about RE5 anymore, so yeah...
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I\'m not a tech person, is dual layered where both sides of the disks have info?
And yet you made a big stink in the other threads including this one about how Xbox#^)\'s Dual layer DVD was crap etc and how it would rune games, when all along you were clueless as to wtf you were saying. This clearly exemplifies that you have very little understanding in regards to the issues that you bring forth.
This could be a big problem for all new multiplatform games, developers puttting all multiplatform games on DVD just so they can sell the game on all systems, instead of taking of advantage of the BR space
I\'m hoping multiplatform games like RE5 arent\' scaled back to fit on DVD, when they can be fully realized on a blu ray disk
You are stupid! How does the storage space of XBOX360\'s DVD hamper the development of multi-platform games. IF the game requires more than what dual layer can hold then they will use 2 dvd disks. Is this hard to understand, instead you attempt to make it seem that XBOX360 will act as the culprit for holding back the games potential for PS3. Another example of you trying to paint M$ as the enemy. Do you you even read over the mindless dribble you type?
trolling? How exactly am I trolling? Anytime I say something that may seem or is anti-xbox it is trolling
You blatantly go far out of your way to degrade anything Xbox related, while providing 0 sound/logical reasoning for it . How you ask, are you a troll?
just evaluate your most recent posts here:
Originally posted by Alliswell
" I won\'t get into the "360" name, but what\'s the theme for the design of the console? It\'s basically a rectangle with only 2 memory card slots, a power button, and a disc tray. Thats it folks. It\'s a step above the PSone, if that
Are you insane! Xbox360 is nothing but a a step up from PS1?????
How do you expect any of the memebers here to take anything you say serious.
So, fine, purchase 360 to get cheap next gen graphics. Sort of like getting a cheap thrill. Games suck, though
Amazing you have travelled to the future. YOu see this is why you are labelled a troll.
MS looks like an unstoppable machine. Unless, of course, We, the gamers, stand up to MS, all hope is lost. MS will be the only company in the business. SLure, Magnavox may make a console but it will fail
It just keeps getting worse and worse.
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damn..i\'m kinda actually amped about this one...i plan on gettin res evil 4 for ps2 when it drops later this year...yea i know the gamecube version is superior...that doesn\'t bother me...it\'s gotten enough positive reviews (gc version) for me to purchase the ps2 version..it may be inferior, but it shouldn\'t be that bad...
and if that is indeed chris in the trailer of res evil 5, i\'d say they made a good choice in keeping the series fresh with the original characters...i would still like to see jill "the master of unlocking" :p in there as well tho....
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
You are stupid! How does the storage space of XBOX360\'s DVD hamper the development of multi-platform games. IF the game requires more than what dual layer can hold then they will use 2 dvd disks. Is this hard to understand, instead you attempt to make it seem that XBOX360 will act as the culprit for holding back the games potential for PS3. Another example of you trying to paint M$ as the enemy. Do you you even read over the mindless dribble you type?
Listen, flaming is not tolerated in console discusion. Console debate is for that.
Please do not post off-topic replys in this thread
thx
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We insult each other all the time...it\'s a tradition.
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Originally posted by Paul2
hmmm...
i put my metal gear solid 2 disc into the computer and it read 4.30 GBytes. That sounds like a singel layer to me because dvd can store up to 4.38 Gbytes for single layer.
try substance not sons of liberty.
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Originally posted by alliswell
Listen, flaming is not tolerated in console discusion. Console debate is for that.
Please do not post off-topic replys in this thread
thx
Listen, I\'m the mod here. Not you . There is no Console Debating, we merged them. So, some flaming is tolerated.
You, yourself say you are not a "tech person" and that it is a "guess". Well, here\'s a idea for you.
When discussing / debating, don\'t pull numbers out of your ass without something to back them up, other than a"guess", it is trolling and it makes you look like a dumbass.
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try substance not sons of liberty.
:rolleyes: Thanks for being vague. I was referring to Sons of Liberty...not Substance...which has ten thousand extras.
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Originally posted by THX
http://ranobe.sakuratan.com/up/updata/up46829.jpg
Coming to Xbox360 and PS3.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/635/635114p1.html
Cut scenes, wonder what actual gameplay will look like.
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Listen, flaming is not tolerated in console discusion. Console debate is for that.
Please do not post off-topic replys in this thread
Translation = You have cornered me, and all I can do is cry foul play.
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
:rolleyes: Thanks for being vague. I was referring to Sons of Liberty...not Substance...which has ten thousand extras.
You assumed i was talking about Sons of Liberty.. not my problem.
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Now to get back on topic. RE 5, yea it looks awesome and all but how does it play. RE 4 looked great but imho it kinda sucked as I am just not a fan of the RE series. I didn\'t like RE1 through 4 so unless they improve the controls alot im probably gonna hate RE 5 as well.
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Last RE I played was CV for the dreamcast. Pretty to look at boring after the first hour. The controls were horrible IMO
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Originally posted by Skippy
Now to get back on topic. RE 5, yea it looks awesome and all but how does it play. RE 4 looked great but imho it kinda sucked as I am just not a fan of the RE series. I didn\'t like RE1 through 4 so unless they improve the controls alot im probably gonna hate RE 5 as well.
So...it kinda sucked because you are not a fun of the series and you didnt like any of the Resis
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
Last RE I played was CV for the dreamcast. Pretty to look at boring after the first hour. The controls were horrible IMO
I hated CV.Indeed it was boring.
It had some of the worst dialoques ever.
Controls felt worse than any of the previous resis.Almost all monsters were the same as before and the "new" ones lacked creativity.
God that "Alfred dude and his sister" were annoying as hell.Not to mention Steve.
And Wesker was so not the Wesker I liked in Resi1.
The plot was the best example of stupidity ever in most parts.It was totally outlandish for a Resi game in many parts as an effort from Capcom to make it a bit different.
The only things I kind of liked was the game\'s length and some flashbacks to the old Resi we loved.
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You assumed i was talking about Sons of Liberty.. not my problem.
Or next time you could write something other than "MGS2" (or something similar that has more than one game)...and that would prevent the vagueness.
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Or next time you could write something other than "MGS2" (or something similar that has more than one game)...and that would prevent the vagueness.
You still assumed, you just assumed wrong. You probably just didn\'t realize there was more then 1 version of MGS2. Otherwise you would have asked which version i was referring too.
again.. not my problem.
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You still assumed, you just assumed wrong. You probably just didn\'t realize there was more then 1 version of MGS2. Otherwise you would have asked which version i was referring too.
I wasn\'t thinking too deeply about it at the moment and yes...I knew there were 2 versions.
again.. not my problem.
Have fun being vague! :thumb:
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Originally posted by Unicron!
So...it kinda sucked because you are not a fun of the series and you didnt like any of the Resis
Hey, I said it was just MY OPINION. I think it sucks becuse yes I am not a fan of it, but thats just me.
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Thats one hell of a weird self-contradicting statement
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Thats one hell of a weird self-contradicting statement
Well, you being a sony fan boy I can see why you must not understand me. Go ahead flame away, I know you want to. And btw don\'t even go and say that im a Nintendo or xbox fan boy because i am not. I like all 3 companies but I do have a right to hate what I don\'t like.
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Wow man.I am a Sony Fanboy because....because..WHAT?
I dislike CV dont I?
You registered like now and you are capable to judge me?You missed like 4 years of posts.
I supported Resi4(which is graphically a lot better on GC), before Capcom decided to release it on PS2.
So please.Dont you ever jump to such idiotic conclusions.
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Originally posted by Skippy
Well, you being a sony fan boy I can see why you must not understand me. Go ahead flame away, I know you want to. And btw don\'t even go and say that im a Nintendo or xbox fan boy because i am not. I like all 3 companies but I do have a right to hate what I don\'t like.
:lmao:
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but I do have a right to hate what I don\'t like.
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:rofl:
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Wow man.I am a Sony Fanboy because....because..WHAT?
I dislike CV dont I?
You registered like now and you are capable to judge me?You missed like 4 years of posts.
I supported Resi4(which is graphically a lot better on GC), before Capcom decided to release it on PS2.
So please.Dont you ever jump to such idiotic conclusions.
Even if he saw those four years of posts, he know you was a Fanboy. Just not because of CV.
;)
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Ok, I see where this is going, so I am gonna just bail out and reply no more. I don\'t wanna get involved in a flame war plus I have nothing to prove so im gonna move on.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
LIC=Skippy
Oh and....go learn some English its your mother language :lmao:
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I don\'t think you are one to point those things out. We cannot even understand most of your ignorant posts.
;)
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Originally posted by Unicron!
LIC=Skippy
Oh and....go learn some English its your mother language :lmao:
:rofl:
get a clue.....everybody thinks you\'re a tool, what does that tell you?
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With all this said, I still maintain that RE:CV was a damn fine game. It had issues, but for the most part, it was one of the better installments in the series. They killed it with the PS2 port tho\'.
:mad:
Maybe, one day in the future I will commit and buy Resident Evil 4 and try to go through it, but it\'ll be awhile. I was not impressed with my first try out. Then again, it took me four years or more , before I commited to goin\' thru Resident Evil 3: Nemesis.....wait..bad example...that game sucked.
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you guys scared the noob off
:rpissed:
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you guys scared the noob off
There was so much potential. :/
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^^^
Thanks for repeating something I said 15 posts ago, tool
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Now you are completely off-topic. Way to bitch about something and turn around and be a hypocrite about it.
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I like Hostess Cupcakes.
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I haven\'t had a a hostess cupcake in ages.
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^^^you two should come over so i can stuff you with the creme filling..:D sorry couldn\'t resist...:gfight:
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Or not...how about that?
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Or not...how about that?
:laughing: :laughing: evi where\'s your sense of humor? :p
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I.....feel.....violated......
(this thread is officially way off-topic)
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Violated on the PS2 boards? Never!
An Off-Topic on the PS2 boards? Never!
What are these things you speak of?
;)
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Were some posts deleted?
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Looks like it, either that or I\'m a babbling fool arguing with myself.
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Yes.
Uni decided to not only totally derail the thread, but the lash out at members.
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Should\'ve copied it to the secret forum...
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Were some posts deleted?
I was sitting think why the hell is phil yelling at himself. What an idiot. Then I realize some post look to have been deleted.
damn LIC at least let the rest of see him make more a fool of himself.
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Originally posted by THX
Hey here\'s a video:
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/734/734381/vids_1.html
They run in this one!!
They run in the Gamecube remake of Resident Evil if you don\'t dispose of them properly! And its damn annoying.
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I didn\'t read all teh posts...but I\'ll just say that RE2 and RE Remake were fantastic games. I need to play the RE Gamecube that was released this year, though. Heard that was a departure from the standard RE series but still a lot of fun.
BTW...in tradition of PSX2Central, I flame you all. *lights candle*