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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: NVIDIA256 on August 05, 2005, 11:33:55 AM
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You decide for yourself, foucs on the packaging and controller.
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if it launches with a dvd drive and a hd-dvd drive "down the road", it\'s gonna tank
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I have been saying it all the time but nobody wanted to see it ;
Xbox360 will be next gen\'s DC, but unlike the original Sega DC, Xbox360 won\'t die off so quickly and it\'ll have some succes too.
But indeed, like the DC, Xbox360 launches very early and it has the \'weakest\' specs on paper.
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Originally posted by Knotter8
I have been saying it all the time but nobody wanted to see it ;
Xbox360 will be next gen\'s DC, but unlike the original Sega DC, Xbox360 won\'t die off so quickly and it\'ll have some succes too.
But indeed, like the DC, Xbox360 launches very early and it has the \'weakest\' specs on paper.
Other than apperance and the launch, I don\'t see that.
We\'ll see tho\'. A lot of it will be if the games are quirky, something the DC rocked at.
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Originally posted by Knotter8
I have been saying it all the time but nobody wanted to see it ;
Xbox360 will be next gen\'s DC, but unlike the original Sega DC, Xbox360 won\'t die off so quickly and it\'ll have some succes too.
But indeed, like the DC, Xbox360 launches very early and it has the \'weakest\' specs on paper.
pm me a copy of this paper
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it\'s gonna sell a bunch, noone can deny that (not even me)
but the PS3 will eclipse it\'s sales in record time
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Originally posted by QuDDus
pm me a copy of this paper
Sorry, can\'t do that. The \'paper\' is already on the internet, but the numbers are free to interpretation with next gen.
Like I said ; Xbox360 resembles DC\'s "push to market" model. In NO way i mean to say Xbox360 will be a failure.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
pm me a copy of this paper
Funny how Rikku NVIDIA and QuDDus react when someone says PS3 is faster than Xbox 360
You would think somebody touched their eyeball
They are so hopelessly caught up in the idea that they will be playing the fastest, if not equally fast console of the next generation this winter that they forget that any advantage PS3 has over XBOX 360 will most likely be minimal.
Dream cast in desguise? It resembles it, yes. Neither design pops out at me though
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Originally posted by alliswell
Funny how Rikku NVIDIA and QuDDus react when someone says PS3 is faster than Xbox 360
You would think somebody touched their eyeball
They are so hopelessly caught up in the idea that they will be playing the fastest, if not equally fast console of the next generation this winter that they forget that any advantage PS3 has over XBOX 360 will most likely be minimal.
Dream cast in desguise? It resembles it, yes. Neither design pops out at me though
Nor does the PS3...None of the designs are "hot".
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Alliswell, I don\'t care about the horsepower of any of the new consoles. I play games, thanks.
Dreamcast and XBox360 have nothing in common. The business models driving them or otherwise. I haven\'t seen a comparative specs sheet that says PS3 is any times more powerful than Xbox 360 (not one from Sony or Microsoft themselves anyway). The articles I have seen comparing the two technologies has indicated that they are two very different architectures and there is almost no point in comparing them. Oh, and I think Nintendo already came out and said that the Revolution will not be as powerful as the 360 or PS3. Just an FYI for your "weakest" console bit.
Knotter, how can you seriously make the comment that Xbox 360 is coming in too early when PS3 is scheduled to launch a mere 4-5 months later, and the Revolution less than a year later?
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
You decide for yourself, foucs on the packaging and controller.
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The green circles by themselves look nothing like an orange swirl.
The controller looks like a softer controller S than anything. Yes, the colored buttons were on the original Xbox controller, the controller S, and now have been carried over to the 360 controller.
The similarities are the off-white color and the colored buttons on the controller. We might as well call them twins.:rolleyes:
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Nah the controller was always like the Dreamcast\'s.The black color of the original S controller made you think otherwise :p
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Nah the controller was always like the Dreamcast\'s.The black color of the original S controller made you think otherwise :p
I know you are joking, but you\'ve displayed a bit of ignorance as well. The Controller S is not the original Xbox controller.
The original controller was nothing like the DC\'s. It was huge, black, with two analog sticks compared to the DC\'s one, eight face buttons compared to the DC\'s four, and not shaped like a hockey puck. The controller S came along with the best of the original but made smaller, and the buttons moved arond to be a little more accessible.
Any comparison is nothing more than a desperate attempt to further the idea that the Xbox 360 and Dreamcast have anything in common and to suggest that Microsoft could befall the same fate. It\'s a superficial comparison, and made on false pretenses. Anyone who genuinely thinks that there are grounds for comparison needs to read up on Sega\'s history in all its entirety, and then simply read up on Microsoft\'s current position. This will, in effect, stop you from displaying any more ignorance regarding the subject.
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I hope you guys didn\'t take my post at heart. I was being a bit facetious with it. XBOX360 certainly is no dreamcast but The packaging and controller does somewhat remind me of the beloved DC.
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Originally posted by Rikku
grounds for comparison needs to read up on Sega\'s history in all its entirety, and then simply read up on Microsoft\'s current position.
Well, you have to admit that MS, like Sega back then, tries to get the console to market way earlier than Sony\'s console to \'steal\' any possible future PS3 momentum.
Like DC, Xbox360 devkits already receive lotsa love from Japanese game developers.
The starting point is different though ;
- Sega was a big name in decline trying to come back succesfully, indeed one last time.
- MS was the newcomer who established itself pretty well, so it\'s a way more solid base than Sega\'s back in 1999/2000
- Sega was generally \'known\' as bad at biz decisions
- MS is generally \'known\' as succesfull at biz decisions
Of course, I won\'t make any literal comparisons but Xbox360 might become the fairly succesfull \'DC\' of tomorrow.
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Originally posted by Knotter8
Well, you have to admit that MS, like Sega back then, tries to get the console to market way earlier than Sony\'s console to \'steal\' any possible future PS3 momentum.
I think you\'re forgetting, or neglecting to mention, that Sega was trying to recover from the Sega Saturn fiasco. The console went belly up in the States in \'98, but even earlier than that it was easy to see where it was headed due to a serious lack of support from developers, a dwindling fanbase, and the growing popularity of the Playstation brand.
Sega\'s situation was that they couldn\'t simply disappear from the market for two years and release along side the Playstation 2. How do you think that looks to developers and consumers? Sega tried to rally support in their corner as quickly as possible and try at some recovery from all the losses they had incurred.
Microsoft is simply in a different situation. They have made the decision to get off the growing success of the Xbox and come to the next generation market before the competition in order to gain market share.
Oh, and stop saying that it\'s coming "very early" or "way earlier" than the competition. Do you understand that 4-5 months is not a huge amount of time? 120-150 days between the Xbox 360 and PS3 launches. Dreamcast arrived a full 18 months before Playstation 2. Roughly 540 days apart. That\'s a difference of nearly 4 times between launch schedules.
A vastly different time schedule, and for different reasons. No comparison.
EDIT: Knotter, if you are still under the impression that Sega and Microsoft have anything in common, or have any doubts as to what I\'ve said then here is some clarification for you.
http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36377
It\'s a link to the thread I posted some time ago, with a link to the complete history of Sega from their humble beginnings to the fall-out of the Saturn. There is also a link for a history of the Dreamcast; it\'s not quite as detailed as the Sega History article but you\'ll find plenty of information on Sega\'s last console within its pages.
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If you really want to nitpick, Sega started having issues around the 32x, then a botched Saturn launch only made things worse. Combine that with a system that was hard to develop for and you have "failure" written all over it. On the other hand, the Saturn was midly succcesful in Japan and despite what people think, it had a bunch of AAA titles late in its life.
The Dreamcast was just solid from start to finish.
R.I.P Sega\'s Hardware division.
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If the XBox360 sells like hotcakes right out of the gate I really think they could hold off the PS3 for the entire generation. The only problem with that is that a lot of gamers will wait to see what Sony is coming with. Plus I know a lot of the employees at game retailers tend to let their personal biases affect what they sell. I can\'t tell you how many potential Dreamcast sales that my coworkers sent away because they said that it wasn\'t worth it with the PS2 on the horizon.
If the DC got even HALF the support it deserved based on the quality of the games, this generation would have been A LOT different.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
If the XBox360 sells like hotcakes right out of the gate I really think they could hold off the PS3 for the entire generation. The only problem with that is that a lot of gamers will wait to see what Sony is coming with. Plus I know a lot of the employees at game retailers tend to let their personal biases affect what they sell. I can\'t tell you how many potential Dreamcast sales that my coworkers sent away because they said that it wasn\'t worth it with the PS2 on the horizon.
Xbox 360 sales in Japan will cancel out any launch success it has in America, thus making the path for the PS3 to outsell it very easy.
Microsoft needs to improve their Japanese market if they ever want to outsell the PS3
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For comparison\'s sake:
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Can you tell them apart!?!?!!!111
Now, this beast, this was a rip-off of the Dreamcast:
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The color-coded, Dreamcast-esque buttons of the 360 are left-overs from this, earlier rip-off.
-Dan
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it\'s always the same with ppl ; they think way too literally.
The comparison isn\'t a direct true comparison. It\'s about seeing similarities on various \'levels\' between both consumer products.
Marketing, style sheets, consumer demographics, product philosophy and affiliation etc. Companies really have boatloads of specialists who all contribute to the final consumer product. Yes, indeed it encompasses a whole lot of expertise.
Amongst parameters like that, there are in various ranges of extent, lines to be drawn between DC and Xbox360. In most cases, these \'similarities\' are subtle and indirect.
Since most ppl think too literally they\'ll deny any \'comparison\' anyway and kill off any open discussion in the process.
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Xbox 360 sales in Japan will cancel out any launch success it has in America, thus making the path for the PS3 to outsell it very easy.
Quit sniffing gasoline, what does Xbox360\'s fate in Japan have to do with the American market? If your statement rang true then XBOX would have been finished long ago in the US, but here it is alive and strong. I understand you want the 360 fail, but I hope you realize that competition is what makes this market stronger.
I asked you last time to be real and objective, and to actually think out your statements before posting them. Again you failed to do so. Please quit the whole 360 smear campaign it\'s getting old. I mean if your going to attempt to take down the 360 at least present your view in a convincing manner, rather than make fibulas claims, about how the Japanese’s market determines a consoles success, which in reality is far from the truth as I proved earlier with hard practical evidence.
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The comparison isn\'t a direct true comparison. It\'s about seeing similarities on various \'levels\' between both consumer products.
Marketing, style sheets, consumer demographics, product philosophy and affiliation etc. Companies really have boatloads of specialists who all contribute to the final consumer product. Yes, indeed it encompasses a whole lot of expertise.
Amongst parameters like that, there are in various ranges of extent, lines to be drawn between DC and Xbox360. In most cases, these \'similarities\' are subtle and indirect.
Give this man a Prize
:wav2:
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Actually, the original intention was to make a comparison as shallow as the one I posted:
You decide for yourself, foucs on the packaging and controller.
That was the first post, k thanks.
-Dan
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If that\'s how you precieved, then so be it, k thanks.
;)
-Pedro
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Originally posted by Knotter8
Since most ppl think too literally they\'ll deny any \'comparison\' anyway and kill off any open discussion in the process.
What discussion is to be had?
Microsoft said they chose the light color to create a softer image. Same with the new font. They\'re going for a bigger market than their current base, and they have concluded from their customer surveys/tests that the off-white color appeals to that wider demographic they\'re aiming for.
I think I managed to explore the entirety of any discussion to be had on the similarities between Dreamcast and Xbox 360. If you can manage anything else, please, don\'t hold back on my account.
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Originally posted by Rikku
I know you are joking, but you\'ve displayed a bit of ignorance as well. The Controller S is not the original Xbox controller.
The original controller was nothing like the DC\'s. It was huge, black, with two analog sticks compared to the DC\'s one, eight face buttons compared to the DC\'s four, and not shaped like a hockey puck. The controller S came along with the best of the original but made smaller, and the buttons moved arond to be a little more accessible.
Any comparison is nothing more than a desperate attempt to further the idea that the Xbox 360 and Dreamcast have anything in common and to suggest that Microsoft could befall the same fate. It\'s a superficial comparison, and made on false pretenses. Anyone who genuinely thinks that there are grounds for comparison needs to read up on Sega\'s history in all its entirety, and then simply read up on Microsoft\'s current position. This will, in effect, stop you from displaying any more ignorance regarding the subject.
I already knew that but thanks for reminding me anyways ;)
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
Quit sniffing gasoline, what does Xbox360\'s fate in Japan have to do with the American market? If your statement rang true then XBOX would have been finished long ago in the US, but here it is alive and strong. I understand you want the 360 fail, but I hope you realize that competition is what makes this market stronger.
I asked you last time to be real and objective, and to actually think out your statements before posting them. Again you failed to do so. Please quit the whole 360 smear campaign it\'s getting old. I mean if your going to attempt to take down the 360 at least present your view in a convincing manner, rather than make fibulas claims, about how the Japanese’s market determines a consoles success, which in reality is far from the truth as I proved earlier with hard practical evidence.
Shocking
Thats a nice word to describe your misinformed reply
How in the world do you get the idea he was only talking about America?
Black Samurai said the Xbox 360 may sell more units than the PS3 this generation. And some how you narrowed this down to the American market. Unreal. Are you human?
My definition of success used in my post was the amount of consoles the Xbox will sell. Not your made up definition.
My post clearly had 0 anti-xbox claims. Only simple facts that even you cannot deny.
Don\'t you think it\'s odd that you, Rikku and Quddus are the only ones running to the defense of the xbox everytime theres a hint of anti-MS/XBOX? Fanboyism
I don\'t think the xbox will ever fail. As long as MS backs it, it will be around. Same with Sony. It\'s life or death only with smaller companys, like Nintendo or Sega
Please, deflate your head
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Originally posted by Rikku
The original controller was nothing like the DC\'s. It was huge, black, with two analog sticks compared to the DC\'s one, eight face buttons compared to the DC\'s four, and not shaped like a hockey puck.
Really? I seriously think they look practically identical. Aside from the color and the odd button, they are just so similar.
Especially if you stick a memory card in the Xbox pad...
Opinions.
-Dan
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heh I remember when MS revealed their XBOX controller and people were like "its a dc-ps-gc ripoff".They even made a flash movie of it.It showed a DC controller on which they stuck parts of the PS and GC controller and then they turned it black. :p
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How in the world do you get the idea he was only talking about America?
Are you on crack, who is he? oh I see, Wow look everyone the little whiner went and changed his name back to clowd. I don\'t blame you, after all the shame and disgrace you\'ve brought upon the Alliswell name. Um you forgot to change the avatar to go along with your new identity.
My post clearly had 0 anti-xbox claims. Only simple facts that even you cannot deny.
really hmmm..... you wrote this correct:
Originally posted by Alliswell aka(Clowd)
Xbox 360 sales in Japan will cancel out any launch success it has in America, thus making the path for the PS3 to outsell it very easy.
LOL, LOL this kid is delusional he says Simple facts that I can’t deny; please explain cause you have yet to articulate these so called facts that you posses. Interesting in your whole replay you neglect to defend my argument against your phony facts. I’ll state it again:
" if what you say is indeed true how come the Xbox had a shitty, horrible launch and lifespan in Japan, yet it became very successful in America, and is in the #2 position in the world. ?"
Also We know anything that comes from you is anti-xbox from all your previous post, you have reveled your true motives on numerous occasions, so please spare us the act.
Don\'t you think it\'s odd that you, Rikku and Quddus are the only ones running to the defense of the xbox everytime theres a hint of anti-MS/XBOX? Fanboyism
Not at all, the problem is people like you whom make outrageous, untrue non factual claims need to be put back in place. Unlike you, I never make statements like the PS3 is superior hardware, Xbox is nothing but a PS1, remember that Alliswell. What do you expect? of course I\'m gonna get on your case or anyone else’s. If you gonna make bullocks statements. Expect criticism. Then when we point out the flaws or lies in your posts, you then turn around spin in into, “oh look at these guys defending the XBOX at every turn”.
Dude you are Weak!
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Originally posted by Rikku
What discussion is to be had?
Microsoft said they chose the light color to create a softer image. Same with the new font. They\'re going for a bigger market than their current base, and they have concluded from their customer surveys/tests that the off-white color appeals to that wider demographic they\'re aiming for.
I think I managed to explore the entirety of any discussion to be had on the similarities between Dreamcast and Xbox 360. If you can manage anything else, please, don\'t hold back on my account.
Well, some ppl deny any similarities between the 360 and DC as consumer products. Discussion about such a topic can shed more open and objective light on it.
But let\'s analize this. We all know that MS is aware it has a steady userbase in both USA and Europe. It\'s Japan, where they want Xbox biz to do better.
So, MS designers and marketing specialists researched what Japanese gamers like without detering western appeal. So, they came up with kind of Apple off white plus accent colour style which DC also had. This is becuz the Japanese like that and it\'s a better strategic choice to differentiate from the design styles from Sony and Nintendo.
The other similarity is that Japanese developers like the Xbox360 devkit alot already. The Japanese devs liked DC alot too.
Apart from the USA and Japan, the rest of the world will probably see PS3 and Revolution a whole lot later than Xbox360 so, for alot of ppl there is indeed quite a gap between Xbox360\'s launch and the other consoles. Similair situation like DC - PS2.
So, from all this i conclude that the odds of Xbox360 winning popularity in Japan are higher.
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Originally posted by Knotter8
Well, some ppl deny any similarities between the 360 and DC as consumer products. Discussion about such a topic can shed more open and objective light on it.
But let\'s analize this. We all know that MS is aware it has a steady userbase in both USA and Europe. It\'s Japan, where they want Xbox biz to do better.
So, MS designers and marketing specialists researched what Japanese gamers like without detering western appeal. So, they came up with kind of Apple off white plus accent colour style which DC also had. This is becuz the Japanese like that and it\'s a better strategic choice to differentiate from the design styles from Sony and Nintendo.
The other similarity is that Japanese developers like the Xbox360 devkit alot already. The Japanese devs liked DC alot too.
Apart from the USA and Japan, the rest of the world will probably see PS3 and Revolution a whole lot later than Xbox360 so, for alot of ppl there is indeed quite a gap between Xbox360\'s launch and the other consoles. Similair situation like DC - PS2.
So, from all this i conclude that the odds of Xbox360 winning popularity in Japan are higher.
First of all I think you\'re forgetting that the Nintendo, Super Nintendo, and Playstation had a non-black color. Each of those consoles enjoyed success. They (including Apple) didn\'t come up with the colors, they just utilized them.
Same can be said about the developers liking Xbox 360 as they did with the DC. It\'s a good thing that they like the 360, but you can\'t make any conclusions based on that at the moment. There\'s no discussion to be had except that the more developer support the 360 has the more it has a chance of appealing to a wider demographic. The Dreamcast did not enjoy as much third party support as Xbox has or how much the Xbox 360 has already garnered. In fact, if you want to draw any comparisons to past consoles then you should be looking at the Playstation. The types of games and kind of developer support the 360 has for its beginnings are very similar to Sony\'s start. EVERY developer is on board in some fashion.
The Xbox 360 isn\'t anything like the DC\'s launch schedule. Out in Japan in November of 1998, the U.S. a year later in November of 1999, and then in Europe some time later (sorry, I don\'t know the date). The 360 will be out in all three major markets within two months. Likeness to the DC? I don\'t see it. Then you try to compare the vastly different time schedules of DC -> PS2 (18 months) to that of Xbox 360 -> Playstation 3 (4-5 months, maybe).
As I said before, and I believe you hinted at, the Xbox 360 and Dreamcast likeness are entirely superficial. I still can\'t find the grounds on which you compare them and hope to create some sort of substantial debate to hint at the possible outcome of a console yet to be released.
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Well, either way, I\'m not the kind of person to forecast any "this is the truth" prediction about which console will be most succesfull in the full timespan of next gen.
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Originally posted by Knotter8
Well, either way, I\'m not the kind of person to forecast any "this is the truth" prediction about which console will be most succesfull in the full timespan of next gen.
When did we start on the subject of which console will be most successful?
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Originally posted by Rikku
I still can\'t find the grounds on which you compare them and hope to create some sort of substantial debate to hint at the possible outcome of a console yet to be released.
I got the impression you thought i was doing that. Correct me if i\'m wrong on that one.
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Originally posted by Knotter8
I got the impression you thought i was doing that. Correct me if i\'m wrong on that one.
When someone says that the Xbox 360 is a Dreamcast in disguise then I naturally assume that any arguement/debate to be had is that of Microsoft\'s decisions could lead to the same fate as Sega\'s final console. I\'m arguing that Microsoft and Sega have nothing in common, and that the Xbox 360 faces none of the challenges that the Dreamcast did.
I have no idea how well any of the upcoming consoles will do, but I expect we\'ll all be seeing Playstation 4, Xbox 3(?), and a sixth console from Nintendo. I can\'t even begin to wrap my head around the idea that the Xbox 360 will fail. There\'s no evidence to support the thought. The Xbox brand has gained popularity among consumers and developers. They\'ve all commited to Xbox 360, and with some big name titles. Microsoft seems to have learned from their mistakes on their first venture and seem eager to prove they\'ve made a better product because of it. Their business model is very aggressive and impressive if I may say so. XNA, Xbox Live, Xbox Marketplace, and having an almost simultaneous worldwide launch.
I had not thought about which console will enjoy the most success. I couldn\'t care less which one sells the most as the sales numbers don\'t make a game more fun to play. I\'ve only been arguing that there\'s no evidence or early signs to support the theory that Xbox 360 could be, or is, another Dreamcast.
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People expecting a repeat of the American / Japanese launch of the Xbox are in for a surprise. While MS may not yet have the fanbase that Sony has, they still have a large and growing fanbase that was established with this generation. The Xbox360 should do a moderate Japanese launch and a succesful American launch. Still, the PS3 will overshadow the Xbox360 if for no other reason, ...........hype.
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Analyst are predicting Xbox 360 to take a huge chunk of the market from sony. And I think the way things are going it will happen. MS seems to have their head on str8 with the launch of the xbox 360. And I rarely play games online. I think I only did it a couple of times. But with this free xbox live thing and the gold passes I am really thinking of playing games online now.
If MS offers great games and services xbox 360 will have much success this generation.
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
Are you on crack, who is he? oh I see, Wow look everyone the little whiner went and changed his name back to clowd. I don\'t blame you, after all the shame and disgrace you\'ve brought upon the Alliswell name. Um you forgot to change the avatar to go along with your new identity.
really hmmm..... you wrote this correct:
Originally posted by Alliswell aka(Clowd)
Xbox 360 sales in Japan will cancel out any launch success it has in America, thus making the path for the PS3 to outsell it very easy.
LOL, LOL this kid is delusional he says Simple facts that I can’t deny; please explain cause you have yet to articulate these so called facts that you posses. Interesting in your whole replay you neglect to defend my argument against your phony facts. I’ll state it again:
" if what you say is indeed true how come the Xbox had a shitty, horrible launch and lifespan in Japan, yet it became very successful in America, and is in the #2 position in the world. ?"
Also We know anything that comes from you is anti-xbox from all your previous post, you have reveled your true motives on numerous occasions, so please spare us the act.
Not at all, the problem is people like you whom make outrageous, untrue non factual claims need to be put back in place. Unlike you, I never make statements like the PS3 is superior hardware, Xbox is nothing but a PS1, remember that Alliswell. What do you expect? of course I\'m gonna get on your case or anyone else’s. If you gonna make bullocks statements. Expect criticism. Then when we point out the flaws or lies in your posts, you then turn around spin in into, “oh look at these guys defending the XBOX at every turn”.
Dude you are Weak!
I\'ll just sit here and let you chew me out like I\'m some kid
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Then why bother to even come to console discussion if you can\'t stand on your own two feet.
Of course your going to sit there quite, you really have no other choice seeing how I have once again caught you in the act of mindless fanboy drool. You have yet to defend any of your points; then again most of them are based of false hopes driven by blindness devotion for the Sony camp. Just thought I would let you know, you have played right into Sony\'s marketing hand. SONY nor M$ would never give back to you the same loyal devotion that you have portrayed. Quite being pimp for the strong arm.
CLOWD = ALLISWELL
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Originally posted by mm
if it launches with a dvd drive and a hd-dvd drive "down the road", it\'s gonna tank
It\'s gonna tank
For Future refrence
By ooseven 8th of August 2005 at 01:43 PM GMT
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Ok just to get things straight:
Xbox:
"Another nail in Xbox\'s coffin."
Xbox 360:
"It\'s gonna tank."
Just making sure I have all the official quotes straight as we shift to the next generation. Wonder what will be said for Xbox 3. Place your bets now.
:ohnoes:
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I\'ll throw my prediction in. Xbox 360 sucks it up in Japan and takes its lead over PS3 to sell so many units and gain so much momentum that it will take Sony at least 2 years to catch up, if they even do.
If I\'m a Japanese gamer, I must look at Xbox the way we looked at Jaguar or 3DO. Why am I going to buy Jaguar 2? Even if it\'s worthwhile, the namebrand is worthless and I probably won\'t even give the console a serious look.
I dunno, we\'ll see.
-Dan
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yes, make sure you remember that
if it comes with a dvd-rom, i refuse to buy it like the rest of the tech-hungry suckers
oh, and ps3 will outsell xbox 2
don\'t kid yourselves guys, honestly