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Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: GigaShadow on August 08, 2005, 07:11:41 AM
Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First

By E&P Staff

Published: August 06, 2005 6:30 PM ET

NEW YORK It was bound to happen sooner or later, and in what newspapers in Kentucky are calling a first, one American has killed another in a dispute over the Iraq war.

It happened at Floyd County flea market on Thursday, when two friends, who were firearms vendors there, drew guns after quarreling about the war. Douglas Moore, 65, of Martin, who backs the war, shot and killed Harold Wayne Smith, 56, of Manchester, who opposed it, according to investigators.

Moore was released without being charged after he convinced police he had acted in self-defense. A grand jury may yet hear evidence in the case.

Commonwealth\'s Attorney Brent Turner said the episode might mark the first death in the U.S. due to a dispute over the war.

One witness, Sam Hamman of Prestonsburg, told the Lexington Herald-Leader, "Harold was talking about the 14 people that were killed in Iraq the other day and Doug said that just as many people were killed on the highways here.”

This quickly escalated into an argument, then to a scuffle, and finally both men drew pistols outside a snack shed. The dead man was apparently just a little slower in firing. Witnesses said he stood for about five seconds before toppling on the walkway.

In a telephone interview with the Lexington paper yesterday, Moore said police had told him not to discuss his feelings about the Iraq war.

"I\'m sorry this has happened," Moore, a retired railroad worker, said. "But then what\'s done can\'t be undone." Moore told the Lexington reporter he thinks Smith and his family knew him well enough "to know what my thoughts are, his family does, because me and Harold was friends. That\'s all I\'ll say."

The daughter of the dead man said the two men were friends and had discussed Iraq before. She said her father "had different opinions than everybody. He felt it was wrong that all of these young people were losing their lives over what was going on. It was just a political disagreement, like a whole lot of people have."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001010741

Two not too bright men draw guns and one dies over an arguement regarding the war.  At least the right guy won. ;)
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: THX on August 08, 2005, 08:07:08 AM
This is why I don\'t like arguing politics.  Never know who\'s packin. ;)
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: GmanJoe on August 08, 2005, 09:19:36 AM
I wonder if Mystic will have enuff balls to argue with Giga in person. ;)
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: mjps21983 on August 08, 2005, 10:04:43 AM
Pretty stupid to be shooting someone over an argument like that.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: GigaShadow on August 08, 2005, 10:12:08 AM
"me and Harlold was friends"

Thats all I needed to see...
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: mjps21983 on August 08, 2005, 11:27:12 AM
"was" its comical but pretty freaking retarded, but the fact of how old they are makes sense why it would have come to this.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: Phil on August 08, 2005, 11:42:49 AM
Another preemptive attack from the right.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: cloud345 on August 08, 2005, 12:22:14 PM
Accually Phil, it was in self defence.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: Ghettomath on August 08, 2005, 06:06:42 PM
Just goes to show you that if you\'re stupid, you\'re not liberal or conservative, you\'re just plain stupid.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on August 08, 2005, 07:38:35 PM
who needs enemies...


u know what they say, keep your friends close and your enemies closer......
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: Evi on August 08, 2005, 07:50:19 PM
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Originally posted by THX
This is why I don\'t like arguing politics.  Never know who\'s packin. ;)
Yeah, you never know who\'ll turn out to be a dipshit and resort to extreme violence of something as simple as the exchange of words.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: GmanJoe on August 11, 2005, 03:54:14 AM
"Billy the Kid once shot a man for snoring too loud." <-- heard that on a commercial as a kid. Back before the days of DVD and VHS, TimeLife Books used to pawn these on TV. :)

We\'re back to being like the ole West, I guess. No more fist fights...just shoot\'em and bury\'em.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: Living-In-Clip on August 11, 2005, 11:13:27 AM
Take it from someone who lives in Kentucky, this is no big deal. Hell, people shoot people around here for stealin\' "coon skins"...
:p
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: SirMystiq on August 14, 2005, 09:42:01 PM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
I wonder if Mystic will have enuff balls to argue with Giga in person. ;)


Yeah.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: GmanJoe on August 15, 2005, 05:23:14 AM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Yeah.


Arueing while wiping his windshield at an intersection doesn\'t count.
Title: Man Kills Another in Dispute Over War -- Press Calls It a First
Post by: Bozco on August 15, 2005, 06:57:03 AM
haha, good stuff