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Title: Ipod question
Post by: Jumpman on August 23, 2005, 04:20:14 AM
I\'ll keep it short.

I have an Ipod. I have a new laptop with new Itunes. Is there any way to transfer songs from my laptop to the Ipod which doesn\'t seem to want to recognize it without deleting every song on my Ipod?
Title: Ipod question
Post by: CHIZZY on August 23, 2005, 04:25:19 AM
try opening itunes and going into preferences. Turn on "manually manage songs"...

If that\'s not it, reformat your ipod.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Jumpman on August 23, 2005, 06:05:21 AM
i did the manual thing, still dont know how to put more songs on it though
Title: Ipod question
Post by: CHIZZY on August 23, 2005, 08:40:22 AM
it still doesn\'t recognise it?!?!

you may have to reformat. It should be showing up in your itunes as a "folder". Then drag-n-drop from your library.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Jumpman on August 23, 2005, 08:57:50 AM
I tried fixing it my way...

dling everything from scratch at the moment!
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Coredweller on August 23, 2005, 09:02:46 AM
Thanks for reminding me why I didn\'t buy an IPod.  :)
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Jumpman on August 23, 2005, 09:32:18 AM
call me when your anti mainstream pos mp3 player dies!
Title: Ipod question
Post by: CHIZZY on August 23, 2005, 09:50:34 AM
Wait... are you using the ipod utlility software that comes with the ipod?
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Jumpman on August 23, 2005, 09:53:47 AM
im just using itunes, downloadable one that is
Title: Ipod question
Post by: CHIZZY on August 23, 2005, 10:32:11 AM
I\'m pretty sure you need the itunes disc with the utility on it to format your ipod with a compatible version of itunes. I have an extra, pm me if you need it.

edit...

http://www.apple.com/itunes

download latest ipod software.

(ipod updater...)
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Living-In-Clip on August 23, 2005, 10:39:03 AM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Thanks for reminding me why I didn\'t buy an IPod.  :)


Exactly. I mean - let\'s face it, it should be a perfect product, right?!?!?
Title: Ipod question
Post by: CHIZZY on August 23, 2005, 10:43:52 AM
never had any probs wit mine, he just hasn\'t run the correct software.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Coredweller on August 23, 2005, 11:45:52 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Exactly. I mean - let\'s face it, it should be a perfect product, right?!?!?
Concerns about freely transferring files to and from the device are exactly the reason I avoided the IPod.  You may say he\'s only using the wrong software, but why should that even be an issue?  When I connect my iRiver to a PC, it simply assumes a drive letter, and I can move files using File Manager.  No special software required.  

Now you can explain to me how easy it is to move DRM-controlled files to another PC, or from one IPod to another.  :laughing:
Title: Ipod question
Post by: CHIZZY on August 23, 2005, 12:00:04 PM
Damn, kid...no need to be a dick.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Coredweller on August 23, 2005, 12:36:42 PM
If that\'s being a dick, then you have a very soft skin.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: THX on August 23, 2005, 02:09:54 PM
Cored as you can imagine the ipod userbase is huge.  Whatever possibility you\'d want or imagine, it exists.

I use JHymn to strip all my songs of DRM.  Transferring and playing songs to other PCs, as well as using exotic music players to play the files is a breeze.

You need to use iTunes to transfer songs because it has some neat proprietary tags (which I know you\'ll make fun of anyway) that allow you to view cover art, full screen, on an ipod photo, give each song a preset EQ setting that the ipod will automatically switch to when played, volume adjustment, individual song ratings, customizable options when to begin playing a certian track (as well as ending it early), and more stuff I probably don\'t even know about.

I know you\'ll still hate ipods no matter what, but it\'s nice to be informed before making assumptions. :)
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Coredweller on August 23, 2005, 02:20:11 PM
I already knew about the custom tags because I used iTunes as an mp3 player on my PC for a while.  Later, when my music folder grew larger, iTunes started performing like crap.  Even when no other apps were competing for resources, it would stutter on playback.  iTunes didn\'t like LARGE mp3 files, such as high fixed bitrate files.  It seems to be optimized for Apple\'s proprietary standard, which is no surprise.

I do like the coverart feature, and I wish my iRiver supported it because it has a color display.  However, I never used the preset EQ, song ratings, etc.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: THX on August 23, 2005, 02:27:55 PM
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I do like the coverart feature

ah we\'re making progress you actually said something positive about the ipod.

The other features I mentioned are pretty much useless to me too, except for the song rating system.  I have tons of crap loaded up on my ipod, including Arnold Schwarzeneggar prank calls, Joe Pesci, Frank Rizzo, Al Pacino, etc... As well as other misc items like Jim Gaffigan stand-up, Chris Rock.  I rate their best material the highest so when I put it on random I have a better chance of listening to the good stuff.

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Title: Ipod question
Post by: CHIZZY on August 23, 2005, 02:31:06 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
If that\'s being a dick, then you have a very soft skin.


I just meant that someone asked for help here, not an opinion of why what you have is so superior. I hope you get a mini boner from all your chest pounding. If you can\'t help here then why post at all?
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Coredweller on August 23, 2005, 03:31:29 PM
You are remarkably protective of the IPod.

If I\'m not allowed to snidely criticize overmarketed yuppized consumer products, then what\'s the point of this whole forum?  I am not the worst offender when it comes to lurching off topic.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Phil on August 23, 2005, 03:41:19 PM
Cored, did he ask for your opinion of the Ipod?

wait, no? Tsk
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Coredweller on August 23, 2005, 03:45:55 PM
So I\'m only allowed to speak when spoken to?

Screw that.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: THX on August 23, 2005, 06:01:25 PM
Hey, when 99% of us own an ipod, it means you *gotta* get an ipod.  Simple as that.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Jar O Pickles on August 23, 2005, 06:22:44 PM
hate to get you guys off track but...
ive been using itunes for a while and my song database is located on my media server(another computer with lots of hard drive space in my entertainment center)
when i try to connect to it using the shared library or pointing it to a mapped network drive the performance is horrible
does anyone know of a full featured mp3 player with good ID3 tag editing abilities that isnt itunes?
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Living-In-Clip on August 23, 2005, 06:56:01 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
I already knew about the custom tags because I used iTunes as an mp3 player on my PC for a while.  Later, when my music folder grew larger, iTunes started performing like crap.  Even when no other apps were competing for resources, it would stutter on playback.  iTunes didn\'t like LARGE mp3 files, such as high fixed bitrate files.  It seems to be optimized for Apple\'s proprietary standard, which is no surprise.

I do like the coverart feature, and I wish my iRiver supported it because it has a color display.  However, I never used the preset EQ, song ratings, etc.



I want to know how iTunes "performed like crap"? I have used it on my iMac (OS X) and my Win XP machine, both have almost every cd I own on the HD (around 300 +) and never had a single problem with iTunes. Sounds more like a  problem with your PC and not iTunes.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: THX on August 23, 2005, 07:11:47 PM
JOP- try J River Media Center
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Jar O Pickles on August 23, 2005, 07:33:29 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I want to know how iTunes "performed like crap"? I have used it on my iMac (OS X) and my Win XP machine, both have almost every cd I own on the HD (around 300 +) and never had a single problem with iTunes. Sounds more like a  problem with your PC and not iTunes.

thats the problem there not on the pc they are on a server on my network it runs fine with the 600+ songs on my laptop but over the network it sucks
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Jumpman on August 23, 2005, 10:46:48 PM
Let it go guys...just an MP3 player. We can measure the length of our insecurity dicks on a more important subject.
Title: Ipod question
Post by: Coredweller on August 24, 2005, 08:27:50 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I want to know how iTunes "performed like crap"? I have used it on my iMac (OS X) and my Win XP machine, both have almost every cd I own on the HD (around 300 +) and never had a single problem with iTunes. Sounds more like a  problem with your PC and not iTunes.
Were your CDs ripped in the apple proprietary file format, or in mp3 format?  I think that is the key difference.

I\'m guessing you have approximately 3500 files, based on the number of CDs you mentioned.  I probably have more, approximately 4,500 - 5,000 files.  All are mp3s ripped with various codecs.  

My PC is very stable with other memory-intensive activities, but running iTunes with that many mp3 files seems to cripple it.