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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: videoholic on August 31, 2005, 02:07:27 PM
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Anyone else not surprised that no other country is coming to our aid?
Makes me laugh when people were whining about our initial offering for tsunami relief compared to what we really have given.
Whatever.
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Anyone else not surprised that no other country is coming to our aid?
F^cking bullsh^t it is...
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Yeah cause its not like 200 000 people died and the US cant easily afford it.
suck it up princess
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can\'y be compared really, the death toll of the tsunami was much higher and it didn\'t really happen to the richest country either.
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What does a death toll have to do with relief?
Seems to me like rebuilding and cleanup for the living is a bit more expensive than burning the dead.
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no comparison to what happened over there during the tsunami
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Don\'t worry vid they just obviously don\'t get it.
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Yup, its going to cost more money to fix our shit, and besides they are talking about the dead being in the 1000\'s. And who cares we support everyone else time to give back.
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canada can\'t afford houses cause we leave in igloos according to americans so no dice
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Originally posted by Jumpman
canada can\'t afford houses cause we leave in igloos according to americans so no dice
You don\'t?
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I\'m with Vid and Boz on this one... if you guys are sitting there looking at numbers and comparing death tolls, then you obviously are clueless.
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Are you seriously thinking that help won\'t be sent if you\'d need it, what happened during 9/11, everybody that could send help did. If the situation got to the point where the US would need help there\'s no doubt the rest of the world would send it.
jeez :rolleyes:
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the effects aren\'t even known yet this is like day 1 wait and see bitches
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I\'ll be donating to the relief effort through my tax money.
-Dan
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I\'m just saying that its not a matter of comparing natural disasters, lots of other people got pissed when 9/11 was compared to the attacks next to Aussie. I\'m sure foreign countries will offer/send aid, I guess I\'m just still a little bothered at the "cheap skate" accusations when the U.S. helped the tsunami disaster.
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Originally posted by nO-One
Are you seriously thinking that help won\'t be sent if you\'d need it, what happened during 9/11, everybody that could send help did. If the situation got to the point where the US would need help there\'s no doubt the rest of the world would send it.
jeez :rolleyes:
QFT
I\'m considering donating, checking some sites.
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My point was more the fact that everyone blasted the US for not giving a billion dollars at a drop of the hat for the tsunamis.
This is really fucked up. Just rebuilding the I-10 bridge going into New Orleans will cost more than rebuilding the huts from the tsunami.
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Uh... I\'m with every one sane here.
The US = rich, rich country
Thailand = 3rd world country (and 200,000 dead)
So tell me why RICH and NOT MANY PEOPLE DEAD = aid from poorer countries?
I\'m kinda baffled you\'d even think this. However, I could imagine sending ppl and other stuff to help out, but money? Hell, you use more in Iraq in a month than it\'d take to rebuild...
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with you on this soully.
only thing I have a problem with is when US got criticized for tsunami AID. Imo you should never criticize someone giving aid, no matter how big or small.
Besides we\'re the US, we do whatever the hell we want. ;)
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so you have to be poor to receive aid when in time of need? We\'re not asking thailand for money, but a little support from europe would be nice.
Oh and I\'d love to see a quote with that little Iraq war stat you pulled out of your ass.
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Originally posted by Samwise
Uh... I\'m with every one sane here.
The US = rich, rich country
Thailand = 3rd world country (and 200,000 dead)
So tell me why RICH and NOT MANY PEOPLE DEAD = aid from poorer countries?
I\'m kinda baffled you\'d even think this. However, I could imagine sending ppl and other stuff to help out, but money? Hell, you use more in Iraq in a month than it\'d take to rebuild...
We use more money in Iraq in a month, pull out that stat. Wait, let me save you the time, you won\'t be able to. It\'s just how quick people are to jump on the U.S. but god forbid we turn it around on them any. I\'m not saying we need money in any way but don\'t be surprised when someone makes a post like this pointing it out.
PS THX when did soully post in here?!??! :eek:
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The whole "Oh they\'re rich, they can take care of it"-argument, is such horseshit. Like Boz said, we\'re not talking to third world countries with are arms outstretched, it just would be nice to see any modernized country to send aid. Either way I don\'t want this to turn into a pissing contest, its a shitty thing that has happened, there are people (I know Canada is sending medical crews) providing what they can, and I\'m grateful for that.
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Originally posted by Bozco
PS THX when did soully post in here?!??! :eek:
LOL.:laughing:
I didn\'t realize soulgrind didn\'t post in this thread either until you mention it and i scrolled up and sure enough. Soulgrind never posted in this thread. A ghost maybe?:p
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Originally posted by SwifDi
there are people (I know Canada is sending medical crews) providing what they can, and I\'m grateful for that.
When they get here we should nuke their asses.
I\'m so sorry about the soulgrind thing. Will you guys ever forgive me? :(
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Won\'t donate a penny. We are the richest country - we can afford this and not that many people died.
Not to mention we are not the most liked country. Let\'s face it, even if someone doesn\'t like you, they\'ll take your aid, but they won\'t give back.
Oh well. Shit happens.
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strange that nobody\'s helping out, but when I walk around little old Iceland I see posters everywhere for donations because of this, and for some reason an avalanche rescue team is gearing up for a trip to the states, now this is coming from one of the smallest nations in the world so you seriously think no help is coming from Europe.
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Originally posted by Phil
so you have to be poor to receive aid when in time of need?
Yes, that\'s kinda the idea.
Oh and I\'d love to see a quote with that little Iraq war stat you pulled out of your ass. [/B]
Of course I pulled it out of my ass, I was just making a point, not exact figures.
Originally posted by SwifDi
The whole "Oh they\'re rich, they can take care of it"-argument, is such horseshit. Like Boz said, we\'re not talking to third world countries with are arms outstretched, it just would be nice to see any modernized country to send aid.
Again, I\'m kinda baffled to see why the richest country on the planet should receive aid from other countries. It\'s like Bill Gates asking his neighbours to help finance his mansion, since they helped rebuild a ghetto part of town...
Besides, Denmark had an storm a few years back that destroyed a whole lot of shit - the whole thing costed billions of dollars (it wasn\'t on this level though, but then again Denmark is much smaller). We didn\'t cry out for other countries to chip in. I could understand if we were talking about Niger or something, but a rich European country or the US? Bleh.
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I think we, need to start collecting debts from all the countries we have helped. I think it is also time to deal with all the looters, they need to declare martial law and just start shooting these people, they are not helping the situation by stealing supplies
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I really don\'t know much about the looting situation but from what i\'ve seen most stolen objects relate to food, and food relates to survival. I Don\'t think anyone is stealing HDTVs that are submerged in water.
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Originally posted by nO-One
Are you seriously thinking that help won\'t be sent if you\'d need it, what happened during 9/11, everybody that could send help did. If the situation got to the point where the US would need help there\'s no doubt the rest of the world would send it.
jeez :rolleyes:
Iceland is sending 500 lbs of rotten shark "delicacy"
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
I really don\'t know much about the looting situation but from what i\'ve seen most stolen objects relate to food, and food relates to survival. I Don\'t think anyone is stealing HDTVs that are submerged in water.
A customer of ours had a pawn shop in the french quarter that had a quarter million $\'s worth of wepaons stolen. I hear they\'re yummy with mustard. I also love the shots of the brothers with armloads of basketball shoes running down the street.
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
Iceland is sending 500 lbs of rotten shark "delicacy"
you better belive it, along with some nice Lýsi (nice liquid fish fat with some cod liver oil) ;)
It\'s good for you
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Disaster assistance in the form of monetary payments is supposed to be given with NO THOUGHT OR EXPECTATION OF COMPENSATION. It\'s a donation from "the goodness of our hearts." You people are a bunch of greedy bastards. You seem to think "We gave to you, now you give to us so we\'ll be even." It doesn\'t work like that.
The SE Asian countries needed our assistance after the Tsunami. We don\'t need other country\'s assistance now because this disaster is not the same scale as the Tsunami, and we are a rich country. We would be richer if we didn\'t give away our public funds on corporate welfare and pork barrel schemes of various types.
If other countries want to lend their expertise by sending rescue teams or engineers, that kind of assistance would be very appropriate. However, we don\'t need other countries money just because we gave them some money in the past. That is really stupid.
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I posted a topic on my forum that for every item purchased on my site, I\'m gonna donate a dollar to a hurricane fund. Might not be much, but I guess every little bit helps
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Well I\'m sure were greatful of iceland\'s donations.....but to be honest, that is the most disguisting food they could possibly donate.
Crazy Europeans....
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Originally posted by cloud345
Well I\'m sure were greatful of iceland\'s donations.....but to be honest, that is the most disguisting food they could possibly donate.
Crazy Europeans....
there in lies the joke
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*hopes to see samwise bleeding on the street*
Oh you have money? I guess I don\'t need to help you.
The initial point is that the U.S. gets bitched about for offering our support but when one of the worst natural disasters in our history hits nobody thinks twice about giving aid. Being greedy has nothing to do with it, it would just be nice to hear that some countries are willing to lend a hand in time of need. You don\'t hear about it in the news, at all. It is nice to hear that iceland is helping and that canada is sending help. It shows that people care.
I guess I\'m insane right sam?
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Disaster assistance in the form of monetary payments is supposed to be given with NO THOUGHT OR EXPECTATION OF COMPENSATION. It\'s a donation from "the goodness of our hearts." You people are a bunch of greedy bastards. You seem to think "We gave to you, now you give to us so we\'ll be even." It doesn\'t work like that.
The SE Asian countries needed our assistance after the Tsunami. We don\'t need other country\'s assistance now because this disaster is not the same scale as the Tsunami, and we are a rich country. We would be richer if we didn\'t give away our public funds on corporate welfare and pork barrel schemes of various types.
If other countries want to lend their expertise by sending rescue teams or engineers, that kind of assistance would be very appropriate. However, we don\'t need other countries money just because we gave them some money in the past. That is really stupid.
Thank God somebody got the point.
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Originally posted by Phil
Being greedy has nothing to do with it, it would just be nice to hear that some countries are willing to lend a hand in time of need. You don\'t hear about it in the news, at all. It is nice to hear that iceland is helping and that canada is sending help. It shows that people care.
I guess I\'m insane right sam?
So what you\'re saying is it doesn\'t matter that we don\'t need money to support the survivors of this disaster. Other countries should send the money anyway, as a token of respect.
It sounds like we\'re a goddamn mafia family. I don\'t think we need other countries giving us money to prove they fear and respect us. I\'m not that insecure.
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canada is sending assistance i think, like 2 dollars in the mail
http://www.canada.com/national/features/extreme_weather/story.html?id=4f09b3a0-89dc-43d9-8f71-91f92d228d1d
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And let\'s not forget - this is something we knew could happen. We sat ourselves up for this one.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282151.html
What do you expect when you build a city below sea level as bad as New Orleans?
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The secretary of homeland security gave a press conference earlier today and he mentioned that a lot of countries have offered support. He only mentioned Canada, England, and Germany but he said there were many more.
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if we seek assistance from outside, it makes us no better then the rest
now is the time for isolationism
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Originally posted by Coredweller
So what you\'re saying is it doesn\'t matter that we don\'t need money to support the survivors of this disaster. Other countries should send the money anyway, as a token of respect.
It sounds like we\'re a goddamn mafia family. I don\'t think we need other countries giving us money to prove they fear and respect us. I\'m not that insecure.
Where in that sentence did he say sending money? Oh snap, he didn\'t.
Originally posted by Jumpman
canada is sending assistance i think, like 2 dollars in the mail
http://www.canada.com/national/features/extreme_weather/story.html?id=4f09b3a0-89dc-43d9-8f71-91f92d228d1d
As long as it isn\'t Canadian money.
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Originally posted by Samwise
Uh... I\'m with every one sane here.
The US = rich, rich country
Thailand = 3rd world country (and 200,000 dead)
So tell me why RICH and NOT MANY PEOPLE DEAD = aid from poorer countries?
I\'m kinda baffled you\'d even think this. However, I could imagine sending ppl and other stuff to help out, but money? Hell, you use more in Iraq in a month than it\'d take to rebuild...
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Originally posted by Phil
so you have to be poor to receive aid when in time of need? We\'re not asking thailand for money, but a little support from europe would be nice.
Oh and I\'d love to see a quote with that little Iraq war stat you pulled out of your ass.
http://costofwar.com/
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Originally posted by Bozco
Where in that sentence did he say sending money? Oh snap, he didn\'t.
That\'s what WE\'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT. He said...
The initial point is that the U.S. gets bitched about for offering our support but when one of the worst natural disasters in our history hits nobody thinks twice about giving aid.
The US Tsunami support was MONEY. Other countries criticized us because they thought it wasn\'t enough MONEY. The aid Phil thinks we should get is MONEY.
No one is complaining that foreign countries aren\'t sending teams of emergency workers or divers or whatever. Did anyone in this thread complain that the Japanese government hasn\'t offered to send their army over to control looting in New Orleans?
We\'re all talking about monetary aid in this thread.
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Originally posted by mm
if we seek assistance from outside, it makes us no better then the rest
now is the time for isolationism
Yep. But then again, I say screw it. These people was given a chance to leave and now that they stayed, they are goin\' ape-shit. Looting, shooting at hospitals, shooting at rescue workers.
There is no doubt about it, this is a natrual diaster for America, but the people who stayed are not making matters any better. It is now workin\' on becoming a man-made diaster due to how the people are reacting.
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wrong
Did I say you could speak cored?
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Sorry Cored, some of you were talking money but a lot of us said aid. Aid doesn\'t have to be money by any means.
We\'re all talking about monetary aid in this thread.
You don\'t have to be a cock about it, especially when you\'re wrong.
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Yep. But then again, I say screw it. These people was given a chance to leave and now that they stayed, they are goin\' ape-shit. Looting, shooting at hospitals, shooting at rescue workers.
Who said all these people had the means to leave? I saw on the news where a high percentage of the people that live in New Orleans don\'t even own a car in the first place. Granted some wanted to just weather it out but not everybody was like that.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Yep. But then again, I say screw it. These people was given a chance to leave and now that they stayed, they are goin\' ape-shit. Looting, shooting at hospitals, shooting at rescue workers.
That is true for some of people but not all. The government told those that couldn\'t leave the city to go to the stadium and convention center. The people went there and the government didn\'t have any type of infrastructure in place to take care of them.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
That is true for some of people but not all. The government told those that couldn\'t leave the city to go to the stadium and convention center. The people went there and the government didn\'t have any type of infrastructure in place to take care of them.
I will give you that. Which then turns around and places the blame on our Goverment for once again fumbling when they had the ball.
I think we need to face facts, most of N.O is black people. That means its a poor city. Which means looting. This wouldn\'t of happened, say, if it was a white city.
:D
Even Yahoo realizes this.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos23.flickr.com%2F38725768_16c66eb58b.jpg&hash=381dc13999665fca0d638d8cd0c949478c86c673)
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Some people are making a fuss out of nothing.As if every country that suffers from destructions such as fires or flooding always get aid from every other country.
For example Portugal recently suffered from disastrous fire conflagration.It would be stupid if Europeans complained because the USA didnt send help.
What point are we trying to get out of this discussion?
"Other countries helped poor Indonesia but they are not coming to the USA to offer aid"?
Not to mention that Indonesia is closer to most continents than USA is so things are a bit more difficult now.
Give it more time and some aid could be sent
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look at the pictures
the white people have a loaf a bread, and a litre or soda, the black guy has a fucking sack.
yeah, it\'s racism
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Bozco
You don\'t have to be a cock about it, especially when you\'re wrong.
OK, so disagreeing makes me a cock. I think you need to grow up and get your ass to college. Buy a dictionary while you\'re at it so you don\'t have to resort to profanity when you have no logical argument to present.
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
I really don\'t know much about the looting situation but from what i\'ve seen most stolen objects relate to food, and food relates to survival. I Don\'t think anyone is stealing HDTVs that are submerged in water.
Um, there was a shot the other day where during an interview a dude walks by with a plasma tv on his head. He then realized how heavy the darn thing was and threw it to the curb.
Nice.
There is nothing wrong with taking food. As a matter of fact I don\'t even think it\'s illegal. But non-necessities are ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
OK, so disagreeing makes me a cock. I think you need to grow up and get your ass to college. Buy a dictionary while you\'re at it so you don\'t have to resort to profanity when you have no logical argument to present.
Now whos the one being juvenile here? We\'re all discussing then you come into the thread and declare what we\'re discussing as if you\'re right. Meanwhile he never said a word about monetary help. :rolleyes:
Get my ass to college? ......so childish that you can\'t even admit you were wrong.
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Originally posted by mm
if we seek assistance from outside, it makes us no better then the rest
now is the time for isolationism
I completely agree. I don\'t want shit from other countries. My only point was how much the other countries were coming down on us right after the tsunami for not throwing in 4 billion dollars day one.
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double standard is all it is
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Originally posted by Bozco
Meanwhile he never said a word about monetary help. :rolleyes:
He hasn\'t said that WASN\'T what he was talking about.
Originally posted by Videoholic
My only point was how much the other countries were coming down on us right after the tsunami for not throwing in 4 billion dollars day one.
So Bozco, This thread is NOT about money? WTF?
Even if Phil WAS talking solely about aid in the form of supplies, or professional assistance, or whatever, .... for the United States to expect/demand any sort of assistance with a natural disaster that we can handle on our own - is a bit like Don Corleone calling in a favor.
If we really cared about helping other people when we send out disaster assistance, we would not be constantly looking for repayment of the assistance the next time we stub our toe.
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Originally posted by videoholic
I completely agree. I don\'t want shit from other countries. My only point was how much the other countries were coming down on us right after the tsunami for not throwing in 4 billion dollars day one.
Actually that was because at the same time people were homeless and dying from the tsunami catastrophe, billions have been invested without hesitation on the war in Iraq.Thats why the outcries
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Actually that was because at the same time people were homeless and dying from the tsunami catastrophe, billions have been invested without hesitation on the war in Iraq.Thats why the outcries
Let me sum any of Uni\'s post.
Blah. Blah. Blah. I\'m clueless. Blah. Blah.
Newflash Dofus : Not everything ties in with Iraq.
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The outcries for money from us had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.
And as far as deaths go, by the end of this thing I\'ll be surprised if it doesn\'t get close to 80k
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Originally posted by videoholic
The outcries for money from us had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.
And as far as deaths go, by the end of this thing I\'ll be surprised if it doesn\'t get close to 80k
I truly doubt that - but then again, you may be right.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
He hasn\'t said that WASN\'T what he was talking about.
So Bozco, This thread is NOT about money? WTF?
Even if Phil WAS talking solely about aid in the form of supplies, or professional assistance, or whatever, .... for the United States to expect/demand any sort of assistance with a natural disaster that we can handle on our own - is a bit like Don Corleone calling in a favor.
If we really cared about helping other people when we send out disaster assistance, we would not be constantly looking for repayment of the assistance the next time we stub our toe.
I was talking solely about professional aid. Sure we can handle it ourselves, but the quicker we get to some of the smaller towns (they say it\'ll be weeks before real aid reaches them) the less loss of life will occur. Stub our toe? the damage is one of the worst in U.S. history.
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Originally posted by videoholic
The outcries for money from us had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.
Actually it had because people arent stupid.They know that billions are being spent for the war which was an indication that more money could have been spent for the aid of the tsunami victims instead.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Actually it had because people arent stupid.They know that billions are being spent for the war(which most countries are against it anyways) which was an indication that more money could have been spent for the aid of the tsunami victims instead.
Iraq happened before Tsunami. We could of not predicted that.
Here..This sums it all up.
http://www.illwillpress.com/kat.html
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Yeah, because here is how it works. I have 200k to buy a house so obviously I have 200k to buy my buddy a house.
Where\'s that fucking rolls eyes emoticon.
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Originally posted by videoholic
Yeah, because here is how it works. I have 200k to buy a house so obviously I have 200k to buy my buddy a house.
Where\'s that fucking rolls eyes emoticon.
No way - where is my house? I mean..........If you bought a house, you can buy me a house...RIGHT?
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Iraq happened before Tsunami. We could of not predicted that.
Here..This sums it all up.
http://www.illwillpress.com/kat.html
Military spending didnt end before the Tsunami.It didnt end because there is still a war out there.
Most countries especially Europeans were and still are against the Iraq war which has caused more problems than it solved.
So they criticized the fact that so much is being spent for a war that should have never been made and less for the tsunami victims.
With other words why continue spending more on war and less to help the victims.
Thats the idea
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:soapbox:
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See what you started vid?
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http://costofwar.com/
$191,571,561,785 and growing.
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:laughing: :lmao: :laughing:
are you still talking?
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Interesting. It\'s gone down since you posted that. Cool.
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Yeah I am sitting in front of a PC typing just as you do while talking about whats right or wrong.
Pray to God the appropriate money are spent to get food, medicine, medical treatment, and housing for the people suffering right now in New Orleans since you care so much about your fellow compatriots.
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Can we just ban this stupid bastard?
I got an idea - because of the Tsnumia and because of the Hurricane, let\'s drop any global policy or any military presence ANYWHERE. I mean - let\'s withdrawl those troops on the S.KOREA / N. KOREA border also. I mean , that money could be spent elsewhere.
You know, as much as I disagree with the war on Iraq, it has NOTHING to do with any of this. You\'re just some dumb bastard in some small country who thinks its cool to hate America and tries to tie everything into the war on Iraq.
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...he\'s got a point there
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Originally posted by mm
...he\'s got a point there
Who? Me? Of course I do.
There is no point what so ever to tying our tsnumai relief in with Iraq. Just like there is no point in tying in hurricane relief in with Iraq.
By Uni\'s obvioulsy ignorant comments, when the tsnumai hit, we should withdrewl any military presence and spent every dime on the other countries. Then, other countries would just be jumpin\' in and helpin\' us out now.. Bullshit, I say. We can\'t spend every dime on the tsnumai victims (tho\' we spent plenty) and I really doubt the other countries are sittin\' and goin\'..."You know, those damn America\'s spent money on a war...We shouldn\'t give them money for a hurricane.". If anything, the other nations realize we are a superpower and we can handle this. We don\'t need the help that a third world country needs when something wipes out 200k of their population.
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but the hurricane is bush\'s fault!!!1
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Who? Me? Of course I do.
There is no point what so ever to tying our tsnumai relief in with Iraq. Just like there is no point in tying in hurricane relief in with Iraq.
I just checked the last page of this thread. Who the hell would tie in Iraq with New Orleans?
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Originally posted by mm
but the hurricane is bush\'s fault!!!1
Natrually. This is what the Bush Adminstration wanted, a hurricane. Infact, if I was to play the conspiracy theory, I\'d say that Bin Laden had a weather controllin\' device ala Superman III.....Speakin\' of which, where is Richard Pyror now..?
:sconf:
I just checked the last page of this thread. Who the hell would tie in Iraq with New Orleans?
Our resident dumbass...Unicorn.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Actually that was because at the same time people were homeless and dying from the tsunami catastrophe, billions have been invested without hesitation on the war in Iraq.Thats why the outcries
Oh my God. You aren\'t a Cypriot. Unicron, you\'re a God Damn Mongoloid! My shit has more value than you!
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If it was Bush\'s fault, it would have clobbered San Francisco, not a bunch of red states. :)
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Originally posted by mm
but the hurricane is bush\'s fault!!!1
Finally someone who makes sense.
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everyone kows that this is god\'s way of punishing all those slave owners.
and iraq.
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Who are these bitches shooting at relief workers? If I was in the National guard trying to help and someone shot at me I\'d be like "OH NO U DIDN\'T", then unload on his ass.
These are dumb motherfuckers. =/
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Originally posted by mm
look at the pictures
the white people have a loaf a bread, and a litre or soda, the black guy has a fucking sack.
yeah, it\'s racism
:rolleyes:
The black guy with a sack - how do you know this isn\'t his own personal belongings (it\'s floating so please don\'t tell me he stole a 60 inch wide screen TV <---Evis, this is sarcasm, okay?)? How do you know the white guy with the over stuffed back pack isn\'t loaded up with looted goods?
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I think I agree with GmanJoe about the discrimination remarks that yahoo\'s new posted. Again, just my opinion.
*me runs and hides*
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"They have M-16s and they\'re locked and loaded," Gov. Kathleen Blanco said of 300 National Guard troops who landed in New Orleans fresh from duty in Iraq. "These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will."
Fucking hardcore, kill \'em all.
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Originally posted by mm
look at the pictures
the white people have a loaf a bread, and a litre or soda, the black guy has a fucking sack.
yeah, it\'s racism
:rolleyes:
What about the two big ass backpacks that they have? Do those not count?
The little kid has a pack of soda and a bag of what looks like cans and boxes of "stuff". Just because its not put in a pack that means he is automatically looting? I would venture to say that the couple has just as much (if not more) stuff as the little kid.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
What about the two big ass backpacks that they have? Do those not count?
The little kid has a pack of soda and a bag of what looks like cans and boxes of "stuff". Just because its not put in a pack that means he is automatically looting? I would venture to say that the couple has just as much (if not more) stuff as the little kid.
or you could have just quoted me and replied "I Agree" ;)
Originally posted by GmanJoe
The black guy with a sack - how do you know this isn\'t his own personal belongings (it\'s floating so please don\'t tell me he stole a 60 inch wide screen TV <---Evis, this is sarcasm, okay?)? How do you know the white guy with the over stuffed back pack isn\'t loaded up with looted goods?
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
The black guy with a sack - how do you know this isn\'t his own personal belongings (it\'s floating so please don\'t tell me he stole a 60 inch wide screen TV <---Evis, this is sarcasm, okay?)? How do you know the white guy with the over stuffed back pack isn\'t loaded up with looted goods?
I Agree.
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Fuckin-A I\'m right!
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^very right.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Not to mention that Indonesia is closer to most continents than USA is so things are a bit more difficult now.
Wha...???
:stick:
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the backbacks are thier belongings, as white people generally tend to "prepare"
watch cnn yesterday? all i saw was angry black mobs, and a few upset white people
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Originally posted by mm
the backbacks are thier belongings, as white people generally tend to "prepare"
watch cnn yesterday? all i saw was angry black mobs, and a few upset white people
Of course, they needed a rock with which to smash the window and a flashlight to find the really good stuff worth looting. :rolleyes:
What does your second statement have to do with anything? The news was focusing on NO because that is where most of the people are. They are angry because people(white and black) are dying around them because they don\'t have water. Did you not notice them chanting HELP to the cameras? I know you are probably trolling but stop being such a fucking douchebag.
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douchebag, now theres a harsh word :rolleyes:
well i said my bit for this thread... bye!!
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What Soulgrind?
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DId you see that finally the race card was played.
What took so long?
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Originally posted by videoholic
DId you see that finally the race card was played.
What took so long?
Are you talking about CNN?
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Jesse Jackson is whining about how there are no blacks in leadership positions regarding the relief effort. He should have done some research before he opened his stupid mouth.
"U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Russell Honore, head of the military task force overseeing operations in the three states, is black."
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/02/D8CCAOI81.html
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(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redfaktor.com%2Fdump%2Fnola_flood.jpg&hash=908cf4762caffd4d347879add03827ed6a41caf4)
Wonder what mm will say about this pic. Something like, "Oh, this is sooo last century! Maybe I\'ll lock this thread."
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And for whoever was asking for aid, it\'s there:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/02/katrina.world/index.html
Countries are donating to the American Red Cross, they\'re releasing millions of barrels of oil, they\'re ready to send both people and machinery.
The Danish government has people and machinery ready to go (the European Union asked its members to be prepared to send aid if they could in case the US asked for help - which they haven\'t done yet).
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"...in case the US asked for help - which they haven\'t done yet..."
THAT\'S what makes me sick ! ...and there IS a person to blame for.
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Why would the US ask for help?
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who the hell are they gonna ask for help from, ming the merciless?
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I love that fucking retard of a governor...When he was asked what people can do to help, he said "we really need prayer...pray for us..."
:eek:
WTF!?!? Ok, how about saying "donate some money to *insert organization*", but no, this jackass says to pray. I have an idea, pray in one hand, and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.
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Originally posted by mm
who the hell are they gonna ask for help from, ming the merciless?
:rofl:
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We were sending a C130 with equipment for cleaning water but the flight was canceled in the last moment, apparently they don\'t have the logistical resources to accept.
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Originally posted by fastson
We were sending a C130 with equipment for cleaning water but the flight was canceled in the last moment, apparently they don\'t have the logistical resources to accept.
That\'s true. We have tons of supplies and equipment, no one knows what to do with implimenting them. There\'s literally a traffic jam of goods to get in. People are scratching their heads about logistics. Too many chefs in the kitchen, I think.
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I just talked to a buddy last night who has family there and luckily they got out but his sister was one of the people that was stuck on there roof. They could have stayed on the second story of the house, but they said the stinch was so terrible that they stayed on the roof and eventually they go rescued in one of those baskets.
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what is really disturbing is how the media refers to these people as refugees? :mad:...they\'re not refugees! they\'re f**kin\' american citizens!...not once did you here the media call those people of the 911 catastrophy or of any other natural disaster in the nation refugees...
i see someone was tryin to connect this with iraq....now i won\'t connect this to iraq, but i will put a different perspective on it. It seems that this prez is so hooked on the war on terror and in iraq that while he\'s spending billions in that false war..my opinion of course...it seems it never crossed his mind that something like this...a natural disaster could come along and cripple the economy...this hurricane crippled the entire city...not terrorists or Saddam Hussien. It\'s funny how nobody can blame nature when something of this magnitude hits....
This should make him sit back and reflect on some things.. well if it were me i\'d be like "damn i\'m bustin my ass to get things under control in iraq and this happens" Again i\'m not blamin\' bush for this but to me it seems when you\'re vigorisly (spel) tryin to save the country from terrorits by any means necessary you start to lose focus...
what i\'m tryin to say is that people worry about terrorist bringin\' down america, when actually a natural disaster such as these can come thru and cause chaos and cripple the economy, but there would be no one to blame but nature itself...
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...beacuse the 911 victims didnt lose thier homes....
wtf
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by mm
...beacuse the 911 victims didnt lose thier homes....
wtf
:rolleyes:
i also put "or any other natural disater"
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stll moronic
they have no home and thier land is inhabitable.
do they have to be turkish to be considered refugees?
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Originally posted by mm
stll moronic
they have no home and thier land is inhabitable.
do they have to be turkish to be considered refugees?
not moronic at all...whenever there was a natural disater anywhere else in the u.s. i\'ve never heard the media refer to them as "refugees"...it was always americans citizens or the citizens the said state....it\'s really no big deal, but when i heard the medis refer to them in that regard it caused me to raise my eyebrow...and go hmmmm...
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because this is the worst natural disaster in US history
those people are refugees
sounds hurtfull, but it\'s the truth
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Hmm...
ref·u·gee (r?f\'y?-j?\')
n.
One who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution.
Could work.
Honey, it don’t really matter to me
Baby, everybody’s ha d to fight to be free
You see, you don’t have to live like a refugee
No, you don’t have to live like a refugee
-Honey
//Baby