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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Living-In-Clip on September 07, 2005, 05:55:33 PM
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It\'s that time again, for all of us to sit around and bitch about the weekly games. The first game is tommorw night - so here\'s the thread and a listing of WEEK 1 games, with my predictions and comments in [ ] .
WEEK 1
Thursday, September 8, 2005
TEAMS TIME (ET) TV LOCATION
Oakland at New England 9:00 PM ABC Gillette Stadium
Sunday, September 11, 2005
[ Oakland over New England, I know, it\'s doubtful, but I can hope.]
TEAMS TIME (ET) TV LOCATION
Tampa Bay at Minnesota 1:00 PM FOX Metrodome
[Minnesota over Tampa, for sure.]
Denver at Miami 1:00 PM CBS Pro Player Stadium
[Denver beats Miami with ease.]
Tennessee at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM CBS Heinz Field
[Pittsburgh wins. Close game tho\'!]
Chicago at Washington 1:00 PM FOX FedEx Field
[Washington over Chigaco. All around boring game.]
New Orleans at Carolina 1:00 PM FOX Bank of America Stadium
[I think this one was canceled? Not sure. Think the Saints first game is with the Giants now.]
Seattle at Jacksonville 1:00 PM FOX ALLTEL Stadium
[Seattle.]
Houston at Buffalo 1:00 PM CBS Ralph Wilson Stadium
[Houston over Buffalo. If anyone cares..]
Cincinnati at Cleveland 1:00 PM CBS Cleveland Browns Stadium
[Cinncinnati over Cleveland. ]
NY Jets at Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS Arrowhead Stadium
[Jets beat Kansas City. High scoring game.]
Green Bay at Detroit 4:15 PM FOX Ford Field
[Detroit over Green Bay, with ease.]
Dallas at San Diego 4:15 PM FOX Qualcomm Stadium
[San Diego over Dallas.]
St. Louis at San Francisco 4:15 PM FOX Monster Park
[St.Lois beats the shit out of San Francisco.]
Arizona at NY Giants 4:15 PM FOX Giants Stadium
[Giants win..]
Indianapolis at Baltimore 8:30 PM ESPN M&T Bank Stadium
[Oh yeah, my Colts. Win with ease, I say..]
Monday, September 12, 2005
TEAMS TIME (ET) TV LOCATION
Philadelphia at Atlanta 9:00 PM ABC Georgia Dome
[Philly..No contest..]
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The Saints game isn\'t cancelled. The Saints Giants game is getting publicity cause it\'s the Saint\'s home opener, but they\'re playing it at Giants Stadium.
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Lions Super Bowl Champs 05\'/06\' baby!
Barry is coming back!
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Bleh I\'m giving up on the Skins. I\'ll watch a few games but always know they are destined to lose FOREVER
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GO BEARS!
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Originally posted by shockwaves
The Saints game isn\'t cancelled. The Saints Giants game is getting publicity cause it\'s the Saint\'s home opener, but they\'re playing it at Giants Stadium.
Thank\'s. I could not remember if it had been cancelled or what. I did know the first game would be at Giants Stadium tho\'.
While we are on the subject of football and the Saints , where will they go? I know there is discussion of movin\' them to another city such as San Antonio.
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The team has said they would only be happy playing in Baton Rouge or San Antonio. They already have moved their practices to San Antonio, but there are questions about getting the Alamo Dome up to standards in time. The owner has said he wants them playing in Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, but the league are the ones to decide. Tiger Stadium, though in the location that makes the most sense, is unlikely to be used, because it is being used for Hurricane relief efforts, and just getting it free for LSU games is gonna take a lot.
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My upset special (aside from the Niners over the Rams, given I\'m a biased 49er whore), is the Cardinals to beat the Giants.
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Go Cowboys! Julius Jones is going to be amazing this season... if he doesn\'t get hurt!
And hopefully our defense can return, even though some were injured during the preseason.
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Cowboys = ANOTHER disspointing year. Don\'t expect anything from them. Not even playoffs.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
My upset special (aside from the Niners over the Rams, given I\'m a biased 49er whore), is the Cardinals to beat the Giants.
Not much of an upset. The Giants are only favored by 1.5 :p
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Not much of an upset. The Giants are only favored by 1.5 :p
Well to make it that much more interesting, I\'ll say the Cardinals win by at least 14. Kurt Warner will have a big game.
:)
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That better :)
Wrong, but better :p
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i fu*cking hate the broncos offensive coordinator.
twice theyre at the dolphins 1 yard line..who do they put in the game? TATUM BELL..the dude is 180 pounds er something, and they keep putting him in there? stupid mother fuckers.
who did they sign that did well in the preseason? oh yea..ron dayne..he sucked in new york but at least hes got some size..
and theyre pass routes..i knew what they were going to do before they did it..screens that didnt work, bombs that didnt work, and 5 yard passes in the middle of the field to the TE that didnt work.
The only reason this dude is still with the team was because hes a lucky ass who had john elway, terrell davis, rod smith, ed mcaffery, and shannon sharpe in his offense to make his stupid ass ideas work. And now people like brien griese, tatum bell, and jake plummer are going to be thrown under the bus because its always the players fault
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Wow LIC, you did pretty not so good.
Vikings miss Moss? Well they better.
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I\'m off to a bad start.
Some big upsets...Vikings lose. Miami wins...My God, what is happening?!?!
None of this matters, the real game is on at 8:00 pm...Colts vs Ravens..Oh yeah. I call this one Colts, but just barely.
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Haha... 49ers offense is looking sexy.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Haha... 49ers offense is looking sexy.
What was that you were saying Cardinals over Giants by 14?
Dumbass.
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Woohoo, I\'m 6 and 8 so far. Almost batting 500 and I didn\'t even look at them. Just random picked.
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Damn. The 49\'ers looked good for once... And what happened with Miami? I\'ll tell you what happened. Not only did the Vikings lose their offensive cor. , but they lost him to Miami..Hmph...
;)
3 - 0, Colts at half-time. Nice play at the end by the Ravens.
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lol..didnt help the broncos lost champ bailey, walls to cramps (who later got beat for a TD, probably because he was stiff), and then darrent williams to the same thing. Too many broncos on their period this week.
And either way the colts wouldve lucked out. Mccalister was limping around at the 20 yard line.
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All I know is, if there was one team I wanted to lose this week it was N.O. Of course, they didn\'t. Go friggin\' figure.
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all is good...dallas won....:fro:
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Coltsssssssssssss win. Should of been a shut out, but the defense has improved and not all of our starters was even playing. Oh yeah!
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Where is alliswell? I wanna laugh at him.
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Well the Cards showed promise early in the game, but I\'m happy that every team but the 49ers in the NFC West, lost. :)
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The Cards fell apart in no time.
Detriot owned Green Bay. Favre needs to go ahead and retire, he is only hurtin\' his numbers at this point.
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go Bills! 22-7 over Houston. Bills D held them to 120 yards. I\'m likin\' troy vincent with his 2 INT....
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do the Chiefs have something resembling a defense now?? I think so... :)
OH, and LJ is a BEAST
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Bledsoe played incredible
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As long as he\'s got the best pocket in the world to throw from, bledsoe is great. Any pressure on him results in a sack, \'round here we call him "ol\' cement legs"... also, get ready for mucho interceptions once he gets comfy in his new home.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Where is alliswell? I wanna laugh at him.
What is there to laugh at?
The only thing funny about that game was that Kurt Warner is now the leading rusher of the Arizona Cardinals with 12 yards.
Pathetic
And, as always, you blame the QB. Nice.
Could have been worst. Could have been the Jets. Could have been the Packers. Could have been the Chargers.
If the Cardinals get a run game they will make the playoffs.
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I don\'t think so he finally has a real TE to throw to and Dallas\'s O-Line is much nicer than Buffalo.
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Originally posted by clowd
What is there to laugh at?
The only thing funny about that game was that Kurt Warner is now the leading rusher of the Arizona Cardinals with 12 yards.
Pathetic
And, as always, you blame the QB. Nice.
Could have been worst. Could have been the Jets. Could have been the Packers. Could have been the Chargers.
If the Cardinals get a run game they will make the playoffs.
Because we all know that 5.7 yards per pass is gonna get it done.
Hell, Chad Pennington had a higher QB rating yesterday.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Because we all know that 5.7 yards per pass is gonna get it done.
Hell, Chad Pennington had a higher QB rating yesterday.
QB rating bla bla bla
It was his first game with a new team at a hostile stadium.
If they get the running game figured out they will be fine
Btw, I just LOVED that OSU - TU game.
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It was also 23 points.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
I don\'t think so he finally has a real TE to throw to and Dallas\'s O-Line is much nicer than Buffalo.
Again, better hope their O-line holds up. Plus, he always had a decent TE to throw to. He connected with Jay Reimersma all the time. He just has 3 foot range of movement. I\'d love to see their O-line against the Bills D this year...
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Originally posted by clowd
QB rating bla bla bla
It was his first game with a new team at a hostile stadium.
If they get the running game figured out they will be fine
Btw, I just LOVED that OSU - TU game.
You mean, establish a running game so that they don\'t have to use Warner\'s arm.
:D
How about Philly tonight? They didn\'t look impressive at all. Infact, T.O looked like he was still pouting.
Quote from ESPN article ..
Owens caught seven passes for 112 yards, but the Falcons kept him out of the end zone. But here\'s a shocker -- Owens and McNabb were seen chatting on the sideline during the game.
"I guess that\'s something positive for you guys to talk about," McNabb told reporters. "We could have been talking about food in the vending machines."
What did Owens think about all this? Who knows? He walked out of the locker room with his hands over his ears, refusing to answer questions.
Note McNabb\'s sarcasm and the fact that T.O wouldn\'t even talk to the press.. Fact is, the drama that T.O brings along with him is creating a rift in the team, one that is goin\' to make them less effective on the field.
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You bastards even going to enter your picks?
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Go Viks!
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screw the broncos this season. Hope they lose every game this season so they can get the best RB/CB/DE in the draft.
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heh.
Good week.
1: Bengals win..2-0, holy shit!
2: Patriots lose..Best thing to happen in football in a long, long time.
3: Colts win!
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
heh.
Good week.
1: Bengals win..2-0, holy shit!
If they keep winning I might just have to go to a game.
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All I have to say is this weekend was very disappointing for me... pro and college.
:(
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Originally posted by SwifDi
All I have to say is this weekend was very disappointing for me... pro and college.
:(
tru no doubt,..niners got that ass whooped.....
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Originally posted by JBean
do the Chiefs have something resembling a defense now?? I think so... :)
Moss killed us, but that wasn\'t surprising. Most surprised with both defenses, although the Chiefs were without many crucial probowlers on offense that messed things up a bit.
But a win the the blackhole is as good as it gets for a Chief fan
:beer:
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Good day all around.
N.O beat ...They lost that game like they lost the Superdome.
Dallas beat...:D
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
2: Patriots lose..Best thing to happen in football in a long, long time.
Still got that stick up your ass, I see.
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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Dallas got they ass beat...:D
Corrected...but in Souf East DC slang.
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ugh!...i cannot believe dallas let that game go. they played good D all game long, then give up two big bombs in the 4th. i don\'t know why parcells play such conservative football.....13 points is not enough to sit on when you\'re tryin to win a game. Maybe he thought the D would hold up, but he wasn\'t really tryin\' to light it up on the offensive side except for that one flea flicker play where they scored....:mad:
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Since I am a Steelers and Redskins fan: Dallas sucks. :D
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Still got that stick up your ass, I see.
Of course. Can only hope Steelers beat the hell out of this weekend also.
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Stillers better kick ass this weekend. Else I\'ll be pissed and mm will start locking threads! You\'ve all been warned!
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I broke even betting last week:
lost $50 on the bills..(first & last time I bet on them..) won $50 on pitt...lost $50 on arizona, won $50 on seattle.
This week I got $150 on seattle, $150 on san diego, $50 on Tenn, and $50 on chicago... using the point spread, of course...
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
I broke even betting last week:
lost $50 on the bills..(first & last time I bet on them..) won $50 on pitt...lost $50 on arizona, won $50 on seattle.
This week I got $150 on seattle, $150 on san diego, $50 on Tenn, and $50 on chicago... using the point spread, of course...
You put money on Chicago???!?! I really doubt they pull this one out.
Here is my predictions on some key games in week 3.
Cincinnati at Chicago
Cincinnnati will advance 3-0.
leveland at Indianapolis 1:00 PM CBS RCA Dome
No contest. Indianapolis will advance to 3 - 0
Tampa Bay at Green Bay 1:00 PM FOX Lambeau Field
Green Bay will lose, yet AGAIN.
New Orleans at Minnesota 1:00 PM FOX Metrodome
You know, Minnesota should be able to win this one, but they are just terrible so far. This one could go either one. All I know is the NFL will be pushing for the Saints to win.
New England at Pittsburgh 4:15 PM CBS Heinz Field
This is the game to watch. If New England continues playing the sloppy football they have played for the first two games (one pentatly after another) then they will not win. If they play smart, they should be able to win by three points.
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And Pattie fans better not use that old played "But Dillon was injured!" excuse. Steelers have both Bettis and Staley out but they still won.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
And Pattie fans better not use that old played "But Dillon was injured!" excuse. Steelers have both Bettis and Staley out but they still won.
The Pats are still a great team, but I think you can tell they took a massive hit with talent this year. Not only on the field, but calling the shots also (sideline coaches).
This is for Chizzy.........
Bengals vs Bears
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Orton...Throws ...not one........not two.......hell.........not FOUR, but five INT\'s! Pathetic. Bengals go 3-0 for the first time in 15 years.
Colts show another low scoring game, but the defense holds up. Something that is totally different from last year, when the offense was workin\' overtime, because the defense couldn\'t stop anyone.
Oh and Philly looks pathetic.
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Dammit. :mad:
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randel el\'s play was brilliant..great idea..but when ur inside the 10, dont do stupid crap.
hopefully the broncos can win on monday night football...every time iv seen them on they lose. But thats always been in the winter snow/orange jerseys/against the raiders so..maybe itll be different. Theyre D did really good the second half of the charger game, only problem is their offense goes 3 and out 80% of the time.
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gEE, A CLUTCH KICK WINS AGAIN...
:ROLLEYES:
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didn\'t see the dallas game, but i\'ll take the win over the niner\'s...didn\'t pepper\'s guarantee a win against us?...what\'s wrong with that fool? :D...we opened up a can of whoop-ass on the niner\'s :D
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Originally posted by clips
didn\'t see the dallas game, but i\'ll take the win over the niner\'s...didn\'t pepper\'s guarantee a win against us?...what\'s wrong with that fool? :D...we opened up a can of whoop-ass on the niner\'s :D
Guess you should of watched the game. The Niners gave Dallas more than they could handle almost the whole game. It was really pathetic on the COWBOYS part. Even worse for the 49ers to lose it after having a lead like that.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Guess you should of watched the game. The Niners gave Dallas more than they could handle almost the whole game. It was really pathetic on the COWBOYS part. Even worse for the 49ers to lose it after having a lead like that.
yea,..watching dallas play can give you ulcers, but i gotta roll with them. i think they\'re a wee bit better than last year, and that\'s not sayin\' alot, but whatever,... a win\'s a win...i saw most of the giant\'s charger\'s game, and i can\'t stand the giants, glad to see them lose.:fro:.i mentioned that cause it seems at this point, even tho it\'s early...eli has a few more td passes than his older brother....i also noticed how the colts haven\'t really been lightin\' it up on the offensive side, but they\'re defense have improved dramatically,.....it\'ll be interesting to see how they\'ll hold up....
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I think the thing is, everyone is saying that the Colts are "lighting it up" on the offensive side, but that isn\'t the case. They are playing a different style of ball, instead of goin\' for the score every pass, they are controlling the clock, giving their defense a break, wearing the other team down and still doing enough to win. Not to mention with the new improved defense, the Colts are not being FORCED to score as much to win games, something that has happened in the past.
As for the Giants / Chargers game, I would say it was a good game and Eli has a ton of potenial.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I think the thing is, everyone is saying that the Colts are "lighting it up" on the offensive side, but that isn\'t the case. They are playing a different style of ball, instead of goin\' for the score every pass, they are controlling the clock, giving their defense a break, wearing the other team down and still doing enough to win. Not to mention with the new improved defense, the Colts are not being FORCED to score as much to win games, something that has happened in the past.
couldnt be more right. i wasnt watching the game but i have Edge on my fantasy team. When i was watching them in the redzone on nfl.com, and after edge was in like 8 of the 11 plays doing all the work, i was waiting for the gay ass play action pass to end the drive but they ended up not doing it. One finally ended in an edge TD, and another turned into a vanderjagt FG. Not sure what happened the other times.
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This just in
LT is a good fantasy pick.
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45 points later and I\'m glad to have him. However the Giants defense, were they even on the field last night?
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Originally posted by mjps21983
45 points later and I\'m glad to have him. However the Giants defense, were they even on the field last night?
I don\'t think so and it came to a show down of offenses and the Chargers won, if nothing else because their defense did show up later in the game.
I will say this, Eli has some amazing pocket presence. He moves around and even runs when needed, something his older brother rarely does.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The Pats are still a great team, but I think you can tell they took a massive hit with talent this year. Not only on the field, but calling the shots also (sideline coaches).
This is for Chizzy.........
Bengals vs Bears
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THANKS! ;)
I\'m glad St. Louis didn\'t cover...so I break even for those 2 games, and I\'m up $300 this week.
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this just in....randel el confesses to smoking crack cocaine before sunday\'s game
promises to never do it again
:rpissed:
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Dammit! Ban all those that are Patsy fans. :mad:
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Originally posted by mm
this just in....randel el confesses to smoking crack cocaine before sunday\'s game
promises to never do it again
:rpissed:
He should be ass-raped by everyone in the team for that f**kin\' lateral. They would of been on the 10 yr line, for gods sake. You can\'t afford to make cute plays like that against a team like the Patriots....Argghhhhhhhhhhh!
What\'s worse is it looked like later on in the game he thought about doin\' it again. You could see him lookin\' for someone to lateral the ball to.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Dammit! Ban all those that are Patsy fans. :mad:
:gay:
:headbang:
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
:gay:
:headbang:
The Patriots.....
The only team that always win by 3 pts.
;)
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The Steelers won by way of most injuries caused to opponent. :D 4 - 0.
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Well this time around the Steelers have an excuse that the Bus nor Staley were able to play in the game, take that Patsy fans, Go Yankees!!!
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They also got an extra 51 seconds to play.
But Pats won. A win is a win. No excuses.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
They also got an extra 51 seconds to play.
But Pats won. A win is a win. No excuses.
The 52 seconds were added at the beginning of the 4th quarter by the STEELERS time keeper.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
The 52 seconds were added at the beginning of the 4th quarter by the STEELERS time keeper.
Who the hell cares where he\'s from? The officials should have seen that. OFFICIALS.
Anyway, Rooney Jr, the owner of the Steelers said it best, "It\'s over." Unlike the whiny Patsies compaining about the phantom touchdown last week when they lost.
It\'s over baby. Get over it.
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Those are real fans! Steelers fans that is.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Who the hell cares where he\'s from? The officials should have seen that. OFFICIALS.
Anyway, Rooney Jr, the owner of the Steelers said it best, "It\'s over." Unlike the whiny Patsies compaining about the phantom touchdown last week when they lost.
It\'s over baby. Get over it.
WTF? YOU brought it up.
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I love how the steelers fans are all in an uproar over this, then they\'re saying it\'s over and they\'ll move on, unlike pats fans. I hate the pats, but you guys have been a hell of a lot more whiny than the pats fans have been. Probably something about knowing deep down you\'re inferior, or something.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I love how the steelers fans are all in an uproar over this, then they\'re saying it\'s over and they\'ll move on, unlike pats fans. I hate the pats, but you guys have been a hell of a lot more whiny than the pats fans have been. Probably something about knowing deep down you\'re inferior, or something.
This is funny. I said it was the Patriots coach whining about the loss last week, however, when the media asked Rooney about the timing mistake, he said "It\'s over."
Damn emo kids. I gotta explain everything to them. :mad:
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Just commenting on what I observe.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Just commenting on what I observe.
You need glasses. If you were smart, I wouldn\'t have had to explain it to you.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
This is funny. I said it was the Patriots coach whining about the loss last week, however, when the media asked Rooney about the timing mistake, he said "It\'s over."
What are you talking about Belichick said from day one that it looked like a touchdown. I have never heard dude whine about a loss.
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My bets for this week:
$100 on San Diego getting 5 from the Patsys..
$50 on KC givng 2 to Philly
$50 on TB giving 6 1/2 to Detroit
$200 on Oakland giving 3 to Dallas...
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
$200 on Oakland giving 3 to Dallas...
Thats a good one.
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Can anyone say Cadillac? Setting records and hes played 3 games.
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Did you watch the game today? Can you say Cadillac got stripped of his wheels??? Manning not Peyton looked good, and so did Peyton finally getting the offense revved up.
New England really hurt from not having Harrison and SD looked like they had a real good offense flow going. Buffalo??? Why\'d they get rid of Bledsoe, oh thats right cuz he couldn\'t move looks like that didn\'t help because their offensive line still blows monkey nuts.
Bengals 4-0 eek scary how good Palmer has become.
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San Diego just raped New England...how unexpected.
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Um not really look how many pieces to that puzzle they are missing, oh well Dillon did well for me.
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Yeah, but...it\'s The Chargers...on New England soil...and...it\'s The Chargers.
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News flash the Chargers aren\'t the Cleveland Browns, LT, Drew Brees and Gates and they have a solid defense, they\'re no slouches.
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That one hurt. The loss of Harrison hurts a lot more than we hoped it would. Rodney would have helped SO much in this game because he is always brought in on run support and he covers the tight end.
Patriots lost big at home AND Manning was lighting it up? LiC is going to be UNBEARABLE this week. ;)
BTW, Its looking more and more likely that Bruschi WILL suit up for the second half of the season.
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Well mark Bruschi as an idiot. I don\'t care what anyone says.
Anyways both Mannings were lighting it up and the Giants are 3- woot.
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Ah..
Life is good..
How about those Patriot.....err....Chargers..?
;)
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broncos are brilliant. who would think the crappy browns linemen (warren and brown mainly) would be this dominant. They didnt even have bailey or darrent williams today and they totally shut the jags down..minding one passing play.
but..more imporantly..is anyone constantly getting some suv commercial with THE MOST ANNOYING F***ING MUSIC. im so tired of hearing the beginning of the commercial before i change the channel.
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I don\'t care how much we gave up to get the pick, Eli was worth it all.
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I had to go to work and I left the Eagles game at something like a jillion to 6, Chiefs in the lead. With Mcnabb playing like crap I thought it was over. Then I hear Eagles came back and beat em 37-31. wtf m8!?
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TO played insanely after the eagles got the INT for a TD to shift the momentum. Green couldnt complete sh*t, holmes wasnt doing THAT much, larry johnson and hall fumbled, LJ made a crazy catch at the goalline.
i know its working for the eagles..but to have mcnabb have so many injuries and to still throw 48 times..thats crazy. Even at the end of the game when people run to use up the clock, they did play action plays..after one of them mcnabb got up limping.
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Eagles are on a limited time tho\'. Mcnabb can only suffer so many injuries before it\'s over for him this season. I don\'t see Eagles having a succesful playoff run at all. By that time, Mcnabb will be a walking corpse.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
News flash the Chargers aren\'t the Cleveland Browns, LT, Drew Brees and Gates and they have a solid defense, they\'re no slouches.
Hey fuck you, the browns aren\'t the vikings or the packers. So take them out of your examples. They even played a tough game with the colts.
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DAMN!
I can\'t believe TB couldn\'t sneak in one more TD ... sucks to lose that one by 3 1/2 lousy points for $50...that and the chiefs blowing that lead negate my win with San Diego for $100...oh well, at least I\'m still up $200 for the weekend...up $500 for the season... :D
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Didn\'t mean to offend you man, at least the Bengals are on fire.
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Looking at the schedule, the Bengals only have three games they should really lose.
Sunday - Oct 23rd,
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati 1:00 PM Paul Brown Stadium
Sunday - Nov 20th
Indianapolis at Cincinnati 1:00 PM Paul Brown Stadium
Dec 4th
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM Heinz Field
The rest of their games should be possible wins.
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God, I HATE being a Niners fan.
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Yea, they had a good run for about 12 years and then they got hit hard with bad salary cap management.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
Didn\'t mean to offend you man, at least the Bengals are on fire.
:(
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niners screwed me over. thought it was a brilliant pick after they went up 14-0..that offense is complete shit..they should just put in alex smith so he gets some experience..worked for eli.
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There\'s just no reason to start Rattay anymore... we\'re 1-3, so we might as well give the last 12 games to Smith so he does gain experience for next year.
If Smith isn\'t announced as the starter next week then I am going to be enraged.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
There\'s just no reason to start Rattay anymore... we\'re 1-3, so we might as well give the last 12 games to Smith so he does gain experience for next year.
If Smith isn\'t announced as the starter next week then I am going to be enraged.
Prepared to be enraged.
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See, the problem is I think the team itself still has dillusions of being competitive in a weak division. They won\'t give up til they drop a little further than 1 game out of first.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
See, the problem is I think the team itself still has dillusions of being competitive in a weak division. They won\'t give up til they drop a little further than 1 game out of first.
Too true.
I just read an article where Nolan is explaining how the Niners are only one game back from the division crown... bah...
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Too true.
I just read an article where Nolan is explaining how the Niners are only one game back from the division crown... bah...
...And the Packers are only four games back from being top of their division.
ZING!
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Wait *breaking news* Bledsoe just got sacked again while at home on his couch.
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heh...told you. ;)
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Be happy, Swifdi, Nolan just announced that Smith will start this Sunday against the Colts.
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Enjoy introducing him to the NFL :p
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Enjoy introducing him to the NFL :p
I would imagine he is wishing they would wait until after this game, that way he can us that by-week. Oh well, his Sunday is going to suck.
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This week\'s games are tough to pick...And I gotta bet 4...
Sunday, Oct. 9
CLEVELAND 3 Chicago 36
GREEN BAY 3 New Orleans 41
Tampa Bay 3½ N.Y. JETS 31½
ST. LOUIS 3 Seattle 49½
ATLANTA 2½ New England 43½
BUFFALO 2½ Miami 33½
DETROIT 1 Baltimore 33
HOUSTON 3 Tennessee 40½
Indianapolis 15 SAN FRANCISCO 46½
Carolina 2½ ARIZONA 43
Philadelphia 3 DALLAS 44½
DENVER 6½ Washington 35
JACKSONVILLE 2½ Cincinnati 37
Monday, Oct. 10
SAN DIEGO 3 Pittsburgh 45
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I\'d prolly bet the over on the Eagles Cowboys game :)
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no over/unders...win lose with the spread..
I\'m thinking TB, Denver, Baltimore and Carolina.... Prolly drop $150 on each
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Eh.. went with TB $50 ( gone..)
Denver for $100
Cinci for $50
And SD for 200
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ahhh my boys beat up on tha eagles today,...we made chicken wings outta those eagle\'s,..ohh and we can\'t forget the hot sauce can we? :D....heh and next week we\'re gonna whoop the g-men and Eli\'s ass....trust :fro:....
*almost forgot the score* 33 - 10....:fro:
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Originally posted by clips
ahhh my boys beat up on tha eagles today,...we made chicken wings outta those eagle\'s,..ohh and we can\'t forget the hot sauce can we? :D....heh and next week we\'re gonna whoop the g-men and Eli\'s ass....trust :fro:....
*almost forgot the score* 33 - 10....:fro:
Don\'t forget you beat an Eagles team that had a Qb that was about 20% and shouldn\'t have been playing at all. Why Detmer wasn\'t in there I have no clue!
I think the Giants game will be a shootout however the Giants have a much better chance to beat the Cowboys and to take the NFC East division lead for good.
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w00t! Go Pats!
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Where was you both weeks they lost?
;)
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i dunno, i don\'t post here often, i wasn\'t here either week they won before this either. I could\'ve rubbed it in GmanJoe\'s face a couple weeks ago, but I figured that was a battle not worth fighting.
We\'ll probably lose next week in Denver. We like to alternate between looking really good, and looking really bad. If Bruschi comes back tho we\'re going to the superbowl.
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HAHA@ Goin\' to the superbowl. With the way you all have been playing, fat chance. It looks like the Raiders out there with all the penatly flags being thrown.
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Bruschi coming back will not save the Pats defense, the real stopper was always Harrison. Colts 5-0 WOW and winning with Defense wow. Looks like they are more likely to end up there at the end of the year carrying the lombardi trophy. They are the best team in football right now.
P.S. This ones for Bozco my two college teams have defeated OSU this year, woot.
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if the Colts beat the Patriots in a few weeks and finally get that stupid monkey off their back, they ARE winning the superbowl.
Even as a pats fan, there\'s no reason the Colts shouldn\'t beat the patriots this season. If they don\'t they have no one to blame but themselves cause they are clearly the better team.
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broncos will beat the colts in the playoffs..no more beating them week 17 then losing 40-0 in the playoffs.
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I will respond for Bozco.
Fuck you mjps21983. :(
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I couldn\'t care less who wins the superbowl, as long as it is not the god damn Patriots. If they win, I\'ll settle for some life threatening injury to Tom Brady.
;)
NOOOOOOOOOO.. Not "Big" Ben!!
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I will respond for Bozco.
Fuck you mjps21983. :(
:gay: :gay: :gay:
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DAMN!
took a $400 beating this week...0-4 yikes...that\'s what happens when you pick 4 games on friday afternoon without really thinking about it...
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I can\'t believe you bet $200 on SD. What the hell was you smokin!?!?
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$200 on San Diego? When was the last time they pulled an upset? Almost never!
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Pats @ Denver has to be GOTW
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Pats @ Denver has to be GOTW
Not saying a lot. All the games look crapass.
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How about that New England team?
:D
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my boys won yet again....didn\'t see it but i\'ll take the win....gman?..you hoo! geeeeman? what\'s up with p-burg? big dog?! :laughing: :laughing:...Maddox sucks!.....
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Hire an offensive coordinator and keep Tress has just head coach and we are the best team in the country.
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wow, it looked like we were gonna get our asses whooped, and then we almost came back to win... I feel real good going into the bye week. Teddy Bruschi may be coming back, and if so, we may be looking at a three-peat.
And had Corey Dillon been playing today, hands down, we would have won.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
wow, it looked like we were gonna get our asses whooped, and then we almost came back to win... I feel real good going into the bye week. Teddy Bruschi may be coming back, and if so, we may be looking at a three-peat.
And had Corey Dillon been playing today, hands down, we would have won.
well he wasnt so u didnt. broncos got complacent (pretty damn stupid of them, againts a team like the patriots) after being up 28-3 er whatever. But the broncos turned it back on when they had to. Its tough for a team to kick ass, totally slow down thinking ur just going to run the ball and be conservative for 2 whole quarters..but when they had to make the stop they did, when they had to get the first down they did it.
5-1
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
well he wasnt so u didnt. broncos got complacent (pretty damn stupid of them, againts a team like the patriots) after being up 28-3 er whatever. But the broncos turned it back on when they had to. Its tough for a team to kick ass, totally slow down thinking ur just going to run the ball and be conservative for 2 whole quarters..but when they had to make the stop they did, when they had to get the first down they did it.
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i agree totally...and wtf? dillon is your whole offense?...damn so all you gotta do is shut dillion down and pats are s**t....i can see if your qb (brady) is out, then maybe that\'s an excuse but because dillon and a few other\'s are out , here come the excuses...:rolleyes:....didn\'t san diego beat them with dillon playin\'?
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
wow, it looked like we were gonna get our asses whooped, and then we almost came back to win... I feel real good going into the bye week. Teddy Bruschi may be coming back, and if so, we may be looking at a three-peat.
And had Corey Dillon been playing today, hands down, we would have won.
HAHA. You\'re a fuckin\' crackhead.
Just because your steroid pumpin\' Bruschi comes back you think you are "three-peating?". If Corey Dillon would have played..........Cry me a river. That\'s like saying, if I had a million dollars........ Your team lost yet AGAIN.
All you are doin\' is coming up with excuses. You\'ve lost with Dillion - so is he the game breaker or not? If he is, then that is pathetic. That is saying, shut Dillion down and we can\'t win. Same with Bruschi. You are saying he also carries the team. There is no doubt he is a great player, but that doesn\'t mean he can win the game alone. Nor does it mean he can carry your team to the superbowl. The Patriots have played like crap a lot of these games. You could see that the opening game with the Raiders, while they won it, they was sloppy.
Another thing that amazes me is you sit here and say, if Dillion or if Bruschi, but you never ever contribute these losses to the fact you lost your defense and offense coridonator over the season. How do you figure that? I guess those two guys had NOTHING to do with the wins you all have had.
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I\'m pissed too because dillon didn\'t play that f\'er is on my fantasy football team and I got jobbed because they didn\'t play him, stupid Patriots, and Hurricane is full of stupid excuses for the Patsies.
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All be the right excuses. A good excuse?
We are a team that is trying to adjust to losing our defense and offensive coaches.Instead, he wants to put it on all Bruski and Dillion, even tho\' they have lost with Dillion playin\'.
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Young Roth needs to heal. Old Maddox, though still has SOME talent, is too inconsistent. He lost the game for us. Gyad dang interceptions!
Anyway, I totally forgot to watch football. I was playing old PSX games ysterday. :D
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didn\'t watch any games either... and I broke even this week....
edit: Go Bills!:stick:
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Looks like a consistent Qb and a good running game is all they need with that defense.
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fine, trash me now, just like you trashed me last year, and the year before. We will see who\'s laughing at years end...
Broncos will end up getting whooped in the first round of the Playoffs again, and Peyton Manning will end up choking against the Patriots again. Same story, same ending EVERY year.
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We trash you, because you hide when the Patriots lose, but come runnin\' back when they win. Do I think the Colts will win? Fuck no. But you are one of those sickening Patriot fans...You make excuses everytime they lose, instead of just saying, guess what? We aren\'t the best, the other team played better. And then, you don\'t even come up with good excuses. No one say a word if you said it was a team adjusting with new staff, but using the whole "oh if dillion played..........." thing is tired and old.
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That\'s right! Steelers logo is my badge of honor! Win or Lose! I\'m here to take my whippin\' or show my grinnin\'! :D
Cowboys still suck, though. :p
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Hoorah for a bye week for the 49ers! One week we don\'t get another loss!
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i showed up and they lost... end of story. I\'m no fair weather fan. To be 3-3 with that talent is a miracle and a tribute to the coaching staff. I\'m just saying, the Patriots always finish the season strong, and if they get into the playoffs they will be dangerous. Everyone gets pissed off cause they think the Patriots always get calls in their favor which is not true, what does piss people off is how they manage to win as many games as they do every year with subpar talent. So yeah, I was upset when they lost, but I realize that one of our few stars wasn\'t playing so it doesn\'t bother me. In the playoffs I\'d take the Patriots over any team, end of story.
That\'s it for me, lets see if you can have a civil conversation without getting pissed at me, which you haven\'t been able to do for the fast four or five years... but hey, I have three championships to show for it, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
All be the right excuses. A good excuse?
We are a team that is trying to adjust to losing our defense and offensive coaches.Instead, he wants to put it on all Bruski and Dillion, even tho\' they have lost with Dillion playin\'.
I don\'t think the loss of the coordinators is the biggest reason for the Pats struggles. The fact of the matter is that they are banged up and are trying to make do with too many makeshift puzzle pieces. The system that they are using is good they just don\'t have the talent that can execute it on a consistent basis.
Finishing up that rough stretch of games and going into the Bye should help. They have time to nurse some injuries and adjust strategy. Plus it gives time for the newer free agent acquisitions to get better aquainted with the system.
The Broncos won that game because they played better than the Pats and took advantage of Key matchups. The only reason the Pats came back in the game is because the Broncos put it in cruise control. That gave the Pats a chance to steal some momentum. Still, Once Givens dropped that wide open pass for a first(and more) I knew it was a wrap.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
what does piss people off is how they manage to win as many games as they do every year with subpar talent.
Subpar?
The Pats had one of the best RBs, the best QBs, the best Dlineman, the best LBs, and the best SSs in football last year. If that is subpar who was above average?
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Subpar?
The Pats had one of the best RBs, the best QBs, the best Dlineman, the best LBs, and the best SSs in football last year. If that is subpar who was above average?
Are you joking?
Best QB\'s... yes I agree, Brady is the best player on our team and one of, if not the best QB in the league.
Best RB\'s... ok, i\'ll even give you this one. He was probably top 10 last year, with only LT, Alexander, Martin, Lewis, and Holmes being better...
D-Lineman... Seymour and McGinnest are great, don\'t get me wrong, I respect what they bring to the table, but they aint getting voted to the pro-bowl anytime soon.
Linebackers... all of them are undersized and benefit from good coaching and defensive schemes.
Defensive Backs... without Law (who didn\'t play basically of last year), they were TERRIBLE. Harrison was the make or break on that defense, but its not a one man show. Earthwind Mooreland and Randall Gay... yeah thats some great talent there. Tyrone Poole who isn\'t even that great looks like a stud compared to them...
I rest my case.
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he didnt even mention ur DB\'s. besides harrison of course (who i think was the injury that put them over the top..he stops the run and covers the athletic TE\'s that are coming out of the wood-work these days).
Vrabel is very underrated because the D as a whole played well together, so there is no star player. undersized doesnt mean jack sh*t. The broncos LB\'s are undersized and fast as hell, but that doesnt stop them from holding LT to like 60 yards, fred taylor to 12 (week before he went nuts against cinci), and held holmes/johnson in check.
every team has their softspot. Thats why theres a salary cap so teams are even. The patriots secondary is their soft spot, broncos WR\'s are their soft spot (i know rod smith is amazing but honestly..i never really expect huge plays besides the bombs now and then to lelie). But because of that soft spot, to say that ur team as a whole is underrated just so it looks like they defeat some great odds? please..brady, dillon, branch, givens (just because therye not in the media doesnt mean theyre not great players..took a while for LT to get in the spotlight like he is now), graham/troupe, seymore, vrabel, mcginist...very good team.
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That\'s it for me, lets see if you can have a civil conversation without getting pissed at me, which you haven\'t been able to do for the fast four or five years... but hey, I have three championships to show for it, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
That is because I never liked you to begin with. You have three championships? That is rich. You have nothing. A team you like does. Do I care that much if the Colts win? No. Would it be nice to see them win? Yes. Do I expect them to? No. Oh well.
Originally posted by Black Samurai
I don\'t think the loss of the coordinators is the biggest reason for the Pats struggles. The fact of the matter is that they are banged up and are trying to make do with too many makeshift puzzle pieces. The system that they are using is good they just don\'t have the talent that can execute it on a consistent basis.
Finishing up that rough stretch of games and going into the Bye should help. They have time to nurse some injuries and adjust strategy. Plus it gives time for the newer free agent acquisitions to get better aquainted with the system.
The Broncos won that game because they played better than the Pats and took advantage of Key matchups. The only reason the Pats came back in the game is because the Broncos put it in cruise control. That gave the Pats a chance to steal some momentum. Still, Once Givens dropped that wide open pass for a first(and more) I knew it was a wrap.
Now see that is something I can almost agree with. It was a key match up and the Patriots are banged up, but you can\'t say that it isn\'t a team in an adjustment phase. It is.
No one is saying that a banged up Patriots team is not at a disadvantage. But someone is saying that if one single player would of played, the game would of been won "hands down". That\'s pathetic, in my opinion. Not only is it pathetic, it\'s short sighted. It\'s not saying what the team is goin\' thru. An adjustment phase, that is also banged up.
And now we have the same damn person saying the Patriots win with "Subpar talent". What the hell? You have some of the most talented people in the game. Give me a friggin break.
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Boston fans just have no thoughts of reason. I know my Yankee\'s lost and I can come to par with that and move on but people of boston and fans of boston are the most psychotic and obsessive fans by far of all sports even more so than the raider\'s blackhole.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
Boston fans just have no thoughts of reason. I know my Yankee\'s lost and I can come to par with that and move on but people of boston and fans of boston are the most psychotic and obsessive fans by far of all sports even more so than the raider\'s blackhole.
your still pissed about last season when you were up three games to none and managed to lose.
When I say "we" or "I" have championships, I\'m talking about the Patriots, I\'m not talking about myself. I associate myself with them... WIN or LOSE, but the fact of the matter is they\'ve been doing a whole lot more winning over the years than losing.
As for Boston fans talking without reason... at least were not assholes like the fans from New York. I went to Yankee stadium one time and got spit on by a fan, yeah real nice people there. Philadelphia is even worse, one time at the vet they actually threw food at some fans leaving the stadium. So yeah, we\'re obsessive, we\'re a bit crazy, but we don\'t lower ourselves to treating the opposition and their fans like pieces of garbage.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Philadelphia is even worse, one time at the vet they actually threw food at some fans leaving the stadium. So yeah, we\'re obsessive, we\'re a bit crazy, but we don\'t lower ourselves to treating the opposition and their fans like pieces of garbage.
Hahaha...if throwing food is the worst aspect of the Philadelphia fanbase that you\'ve encountered, you haven\'t been here enough. I\'ve gone to the Linc and the Vet a time or two to watch a few games, and let me tell you, there are some crazy bastards around here. I enjoy it really.
BTW: Eagles finish 12-4, win the NFC East
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Amazing I was actually rooting for the pats to win. But like blacksam said they just don\'t have the talent. I ripped my friend who is a huge pats fan on how the lions and the pats are on par this season. It will be interesting but I don\'t see them winning any superbowl this year.
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You got spit on because your a jackass Red Sox fan. Never said we were class acts. And not I\'m more irritated from the Arizona series still can\'t watch that.
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heh...Someone spit on Hurricane, god bless this country.;)
Colts sucked first half, you could tell they underestimated the Rams, but they are kickin\' ass and takin names the second half.
Oh and..
Peyton + Harrison = Record books.
86 baby,.
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Red Sox fan>Yankees fan
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People hate the Yankee\'s because they spend money to put a good product on the field that gives them a chance to win every year, unlike say Cincinatti or Kansas City.
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Thats only part of it, all the douche bag fans and the type of players and personnel they have is another big part.
The day the Yankees aren\'t good is the day they all start rooting for someone else.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Philadelphia is even worse, one time at the vet they actually threw food at some fans leaving the stadium. So yeah, we\'re obsessive, we\'re a bit crazy, but we don\'t lower ourselves to treating the opposition and their fans like pieces of garbage.
One time?! Don\'t you mean every time.
And shit, it this an Ethan siting? How you been? I didn\'t know you still existed. :)
And Red Sox fans are better than yankees fans. And it has nothing to do with the teams or how much money is spent.
But neither is close to as bad as Braves fans. There, the team doesn\'t even have to be bad for the fans to stop caring. Did you see how many empty seats they had at their playoffs games? Pathetic.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
D-Lineman... Seymour and McGinnest are great, don\'t get me wrong, I respect what they bring to the table, but they aint getting voted to the pro-bowl anytime soon.
Defensive Backs... without Law (who didn\'t play basically of last year), they were TERRIBLE. Harrison was the make or break on that defense, but its not a one man show. Earthwind Mooreland and Randall Gay... yeah thats some great talent there. Tyrone Poole who isn\'t even that great looks like a stud compared to them...
Every analyst/scout lists Seymour as one of the top 3-5 DLineman in the league. There is a reason why he was the only player to hold out on the Patriots in the last couple of years and actually have the team go out of its way to appease him. The kid is that nice.
As far as the defensive backs go. I never mentioned Cornerbacks. We did have one of the best SSs in the league and that is something you can\'t argue. We have some nice young DBs but they aren\'t ready for primetime yet.
I think Asante Samuel and Eugene Wilson are going to be great before their careers are over.
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what the hell are the chargers thinking..not that i care..but stupidity annoys me.
trade finoti, their best o-linemen, for a 7th round pick??? 6th if he starts 3 games (not that thats a big leap)..just because the dudes a little injured doesnt mean u get rid of him for a crap pick
and then they pick up aj feeley??? they dont even use cleo lemon, their 3rd string qb..why the hell do they need this underachiever? maybe their planning on trading rivers but..they need some CB\'s er safeties..not a 3rd string qb and a couple of crap picks..
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football is getting boring with these stupid ass refs. Every damn play is a flag (watching the eagles vs chargers)
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/ wishes he could of seen Clips face when Dallas lost at the last second /
Oh and Colts.... 7 - 0.
Gooooooooo Giants. Hell of a game at the very end, Eli pulled it off tho\'.
Cardinals win another one. At this point, it should not be a question of who is starting. Josh has proven time and time again he is the future of this franchise, sit Kurt out , trade him off,, do something. Just make sure that Josh is the franchise QB.
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Eli=Worth every penny, Peyton who? at least for the first 7 weeks its somewhat true. Without Burress you don\'t see this though I think we have a great marriage.
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I certainly wouldn\'t say Peyton who, but Eli is really looking like he\'s already becoming quite the QB. That New York offense could be good for a long time.
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i was really disappointed how the broncos handled a 6 point lead. I could only watch on nfl.com, but every drive to run some clock or even get another score, all they did was \'run, pass, pass/run, punt\' and never got anywhere. EVERY first down was a run..play action wouldve been a great play, i think, on first down. If theyre willing to pass on third down, they shouldve been willing to pass on first.
but ill give eli is credit. i read the broncos threw some confusing blitzes to confuse him, then to pack-pedal with pressure and find toomer shows hes got pose. just wish the broncos wouldve sticked to their gameplan that gave them the lead in the first place.
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The Bronco\'s really blew it near the end. I was surprised when Eli made that final throw tho\', I saw him backpeddaling and I just knew he was goin\' to get sacked, but he stayed composed, found Toomer, made the throw and won the game.
Boring week for the most part, \'cept for the end of the Seahawks / Cowboys game and the end of the Giants / Bronco\'s game.
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chargers/eagles turned out to be very good. the game as a whole was boring because LT had a whole 7 yards rushing. and of course the eagles offense slacked.
but the last quarter was pretty crazy. TD pass to gates, eagles drive down the field and get stopped but get a second chance because of a penalty and get a TD, chargers come back with a TD to get a 4 point lead, eagles turn the ball over on downs and the chargers (surprise surprise, marty) get their field goal blocked and ran back for a TD to give the eagles the lead. THEN the chargers fumble it in field goal range...ouch..
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Am I the only one who wants to see the Eagles fail miserably? I\'m tired of T.O and I will go against any team that has him, it\'s sad, but true.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Am I the only one who wants to see the Eagles fail miserably? I\'m tired of T.O and I will go against any team that has him, it\'s sad, but true.
im definitly in the same boat. I do think T.O. is the best reciever..but that doesnt make up for how much of a douchebag the guy is. i mean..he has a problem with the niners which is relatively understandable because of how much trouble the franchise is in, but the way he did it couldnt have been any more arrogant. Instead of saying what is wrong with the system, all he can do is say how gay garcia is.
then he says "ill join ANY team"...then he gets the ravens talking to him and acts happy just to show that hes willing to talk with anyone to get away from the niners, but then pulls a move to (almost) screw the ravens over that lands him on the eagles. then after all that, he has the balls to be the controversy of the off-season. Im pretty sure i heard reid say how proud he was that his team is never in the tabloids..untiiiill they land the douchebag on their team...
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I hate the eagles more than any other team probably... well, right behind the broncos & raiders (being a chiefs fan and all). I should have been pulling for them against the chargers, but at least this weekend helped the chiefs out in the AFC west standings :)
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Go Joe Gibbs! :D
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fucking 49ers... motherfucking 49ers....
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Originally posted by SwifDi
fucking 49ers... motherfucking 49ers....
Tell me about the Mariucci firing. Why was he let go? Did he wanna leave?
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I was just saying for the first 7 weeks Eli has outperformed his brother, I was being jokeful.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
/ wishes he could of seen Clips face when Dallas lost at the last second /
Oh and Colts.... 7 - 0.
will somebody please tell me why dallas ALWAYS let\'s they\'re opponents hang around to the last quarter?!...and don\'t get me started on cortez...that guy missed from what the 20 yard line or some s**t?....the play calling was ablsolutely bulls**t....i mean i\'ll give some credit to seattle\'s D as both side\'s played it pretty well, but damn dallas was tryin\' to nurse a 7 -3 lead :confused: wtf? this isn\'t basketball where you score two points.....and that interception at the end...wtf was bledsoe thinkin\'....game was tied up just should\'ve let it go into overtime...meh enough ranting....congrats LIC... colts are the only undefeated team right?
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Originally posted by mjps21983
I was just saying for the first 7 weeks Eli has outperformed his brother, I was being jokeful.
Peyton\'s QB rating is 4 points higher :p
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Fine I concede.
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Colts are the only undefeated team, but that means nothing come Playoff time. Anyone can hand an upset and end it all.
Good news for Clips..ESPN.com just reported that Dallas cut Cortez, after he missed the 29 yard field goal yesterday.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
fucking 49ers... motherfucking 49ers....
I seriously thought they could beat the spread... A $200 mistake.
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T.O. is a f-in joke. Now hes bitching on westbrook\'s behalf. Anyone notice that T.O. starts talking for westbrook after he gets contract disputes? they never were a run-first team..but because T.O. thinks he can manipulate the situation, he starts to pull westbrook into his "im a playmaker..give me the ball or we lose" comments.
i guarantee if westbrook didnt have contract disputes T.O. wouldnt bother bringing him up because he thinks he can get westbrook to start bitching at the organization alongside of him.
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wtf is up with garcia giving the game away? Just when you get happy about the lions.
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Anyone else watch the Bengals came? I don\'t know what to say. Both teams played piss-poor.
Bengals - Five turn overs. Only scored on one?!?! They had so many chances to just blow Green Bay away and never did.
Packers - Where is the offensive line? Farve got knocked around all day. Not to mention Farve himself had five INT\'s. Some of those was due to pressure , but some of those balls was just forced, as typical Farve.
I thought it was goin\' to go into OT, due to that bullshit PI call and then a fan came out and Farve gave him the ball. You could tell it broke GB\'s rythm.
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i cant wait to hear what TO has to say if the broncos/eagles game keeps going the way its going..
mcnabb: 1/14, 4yds, 1 int
edit: why do the broncos do this every f-in week..
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Redskins... doesn\'t get any worse than this. Hard to spot what they\'re weakness is. They are known for decent offense, but today\'s shut out has me scratching my head.
Broncos lookin to be a top-notch contender in the playoffs :D
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Browns yet again proved they can compete at being the worst team in the NFL.
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a houston win would put the ravens back in the leinart running. Even though i have no interest to the ravens, i think leinart would be an interesting place there. All they need is a qb.
but..THX is right about the broncos :D . Those 3 straight TD\'s with huge gains was disheartening...to go from 1/14 to kicking the defenses D\'s ass..thats the 3rd week theyve gotten complacent or too conservative.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
a houston win would put the ravens back in the leinart running. Even though i have no interest to the ravens, i think leinart would be an interesting place there. All they need is a qb.
but..THX is right about the broncos :D . Those 3 straight TD\'s with huge gains was disheartening...to go from 1/14 to kicking the defenses D\'s ass..thats the 3rd week theyve gotten complacent or too conservative.
I think Baltimore is gonna stick it out with Boller once he gets healthy again.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
I think Baltimore is gonna stick it out with Boller once he gets healthy again.
they probably will..but hes like joey harrington. Year after year they try him, he does inanely horrible..but he gets chance after chance. The only difference is that boller keeps getting hurt so he hasnt had 16 games to show how worthless he is.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
And shit, it this an Ethan siting? How you been? I didn\'t know you still existed. :)
haha...yeah man...i\'m still around...still the Philly homer I always was. How\'ve ya been?
As for the Eagles....yeah...12-4 is looking unlikely. I\'m not a football coach, and while I try not to listen to what the media says (because, from my experience, the only member of the \'media\' that is reliable around here is ray didinger), I\'ve gotta believe that the lack of a run game is what\'s killing this team right now. This team, in my opinion, is one of the most TALENTED teams in the league on offense, and the success of that offense dictates the succes of the defense.
Having said that, I think McNabb\'s injuries are playing a smaller role in this debaccle than many may believe. He can still be accurate, he can still get the ball deep, but he needs time...and he can\'t get that when teams know this squad\'s passing 77% of the time. Look at the right side of that offensive line...man...give westbrook the rock and let him run it up that side.
If the Eagles get back on track (which, considering their track record since AR took over, certainly is not impossible), an 11-5 or 10-6 finish is likely.
If not...good luck in the playoffs Gnats.:(
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1: I can\'t believe how the Steelers almost let that one get away from them. That was a game they should of had in the bag from the start.
2: As long as Wright is starting, the Ravens are goin\' to fail. He is terrible. He runs around like a chicken with his head cut off. He passes to guys in coverage , when another player is WIDE OPEN. He loses his temper . He is just downright terrible. Now don\'t get me wrong, Kyle isn\'t a godsend by any means, but he is still better than Wright and the Ravens will at least have a chance once Kyle is back in the game.
As for the Eagles, I think there are a few things to consider. One that Ethan touched on is the running game or lack of. Then there is McNabb\'s injuries . While some will say they are not playing a big part, they are still playing a part in his Sunday gameface. Finally, I don\'t care what anyone says, T.O has brought more harm to the team than good. Much like Randy Moss, he creates so much drama that the team loses focus on what is goin\' on. I think that is a case of what has happened with Philly over the off-season and now it is been carrying on into the season.
Here is one for those N.E fans..Brushi mania!
http://eod.liquidviewer.com/wgr-od/wgr/20051031_bruschipbp-1.wma
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http://www.kakorium.com/random/bruschi.mp3
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Bruschi mania is in full blast. Next week is going to be a great game. As usual the Colts will be picked to win, lets see if they follow through on what the analyst predict. For my sake, I hope not.
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I don\'t expect the Colts to win. Every year, I say, oh they are goin\' to win and then I am dissapointed (well, \'cept for playoffs, that game was so bad I ended up just getting a bj to subdue my anger..err..wait..to much info, sorry!). Expect them to blow it and Patriots to lose.
The only thing that can make Bruschi mania even bigger is if he has a stroke and Christ himself comes down and takes him to heaven. Other than that, Bruschi mania is at a fever pitch. It\'s slightly annoying.
;)
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Dude, as much as he\'s looked like a genious in the past, you can really look no further than Andy Reid if you wanna know what\'s wrong with the Eagles. Any time you have a pass happy \'genious\' coach, it\'s a bad thing. Ask the Rams if they miss Martz.
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bruschi mania? lol..they struggled to win AT HOME against the BILLS. Moulds has been horrible and he got 100 yards..holcomb was on the bench for a crappy team like the browns for a reason. what were all the stats the retards on sunday night football pulled out? no passes over 20 yards for a long ass time for the bills, stuff like that.. And they pulled it out with the usual brady drives.
With the colt\'s D showing up more this season, i wouldnt be surprised if they pull it out. But bellichek (i know i murdered the spelling) always finds a way to beat payton. But another difference is that theyre running edge wayyyy more. I notice because i had edge on my fantasy team last season and this season.
I\'m just tired of how blown out of proportion bruschi\'s return is. Hes a great player..and i hope nothing happens from his return..but god dammit. The approach of "we sucked before because bruschi was gone" is really annoying to me. Hes obviously a great player..but changing a struggling pats D (its the secondary struggling..not the front 7) to superbowl champs..c\'mon. Their still the team to beat but theyre secondary is just way too banged up. (name a few afc teams that are playing better than the pats: steelers, colts, broncos, chargers if they can finish games, and maybe even the chiefs since they got roaf back and can use gonzalez like they usually do) Theyre lucky they have the rebounding dolphins and the struggling bills and jets in their division.
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lol @ "Almost stroked out" and "half man, half god, half possible centaur"
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TO suspended, what you guys think?
I think its a good move by the Eagles to grow some and sit his loud ass mouth down, it will still hurt them over the next few weeks but unless he can learn to be a team mate and not a "love me some me" player then his ass should sit.
Story (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2214754)
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What exactly did T.O say?
Personally, I say good riddens. While it will certainly hurt the Eagles (no running game and now NO PASSING game), for the most part, as a league it is good. It shows such acting out really won\'t be tolerated.
Oh and Monday night is the big game. I dread it. Gut feeling is the Colts will have the first lost of the season.\\
Here is the big question though. Looking forward it is doubtful that T.O will remain with the Eagles, so who will pick him up next year?
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i think anyone will pick him up despite being a douchebag..argueably the best WR in the league and coaches might be optimistic about keeping him happy...not that he ever will be. Who hell end up on..tenessee kinda needs a WR but i really dont see him in a titans uniform. I actually cant see him in any team\'s uniform..chiefs would get a huge upgrade with TO, maybe they could trade priest holmes for him.
He said how the organization is a P.O.S. because they didnt put his 1000th TD on the big screen and make a huge deal out of it, then he ripped on mcnabb a sh*t load and compared him to brett favre. said theyd be undefeated with favre at qb.
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I agree that he should be sat down, but I was listening to someone from ESPN saying that the problem with TO is that he has never had a quarterback that is up to his standards, Garcia was ok but never great, and McNabb although a good passer he is not any means that accurate. What TO needs to be on is a team with a qb up to his standards and thats what lies with his problems as far as with Donovan.
What he said about the organization was stupid and only will they be able to keep him out 4 games due to the CBA, the only other thing they could do is sit him down the rest of the season and still pay him after they keep him out for the 4 games if they said to do that.
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I disagree. No QB will be good enough for Owens once a few losses are thrown into the mix. Once that happens, he starts to run his mouth and then any friendship he had established with his team is gone.
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He\'s like any receiver though selfish, and I mean very selfish. He will never blame himself, he always blames everything around him on the quarterback.
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the difference is that chad johnson doesnt act like a bitch..randy moss, keyshawn can be. Other than those guys, i dont see that many WR\'s being this stupid. Obviously some WR\'s are going to get fed up with not being used..even marvin harrison got fed up with it. but because of TO, WR comments are blown out of proportion.
the only qb \'accurate enough\' for owens is peyton..i even see owens bitching about him. favre throws 3 INT\'s a game..he always has..he just makes it up with great 4th quarter drives..And hes the qb he said theyd be undefeated with.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
He\'s like any receiver though selfish, and I mean very selfish. He will never blame himself, he always blames everything around him on the quarterback.
Huh?!?!
There are a ton of receivers out there that are not selfish. One of the first that comes to mind is Marvin Harrison.
Farve is a great 4th quarter QB, but he has a problem with forcnig passes.
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LT is lovely, too bad he\'s killing me in one of my leagues and Eli is Jbean\'s qb and I have Burress and Toomer so any td\'s are negated when they score them damnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chad Johnson is funny and he\'s not a complete arrogant asswhipe, while TO is making fun and complaining about other\'s Chad makes fun of the other team which by no means is wrong as long as its done in good jesture.
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Did you guys hear about the fight between TO and Hugh Douglas? Apparantly TO was soaking his injured ankle in the team hot tub and Douglas started yelling at him about the whole situation. TO got out of the hot tub and put on sneakers for better traction. Douglas threw a punch that TO dodged and then TO proceed to throw about 6 punches (only two landed) before the other injured players pulled them apart. TO pushed all the guys holding him off and rushed Douglas again.
Afterwards TO went into the locker room and said something to the effect of "All you guys that want to keep talking trash behind my back need to say it to my face so I can handle it just like I handled Douglas". No one moved to which TO replied, "Thats what I thought."
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Originally posted by mjps21983
He\'s like any receiver though selfish, and I mean very selfish. He will never blame himself, he always blames everything around him on the quarterback.
Art Monk, Jerry Rice are two "quiet" Hall of Famers I can think of, right off the top of my noggin.
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Ok maybe I over stated every receiver, and Marvin Harrison? Come on he wasn\'t happiest last season when he wasn\'t getting the ball he may not have spoken out about it but there were reports about him not being too happy. Maybe I should put it this way receivers out of most of the NFL positions are the most brash and selfish.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Did you guys hear about the fight between TO and Hugh Douglas? Apparantly TO was soaking his injured ankle in the team hot tub and Douglas started yelling at him about the whole situation. TO got out of the hot tub and put on sneakers for better traction. Douglas threw a punch that TO dodged and then TO proceed to throw about 6 punches (only two landed) before the other injured players pulled them apart. TO pushed all the guys holding him off and rushed Douglas again.
Afterwards TO went into the locker room and said something to the effect of "All you guys that want to keep talking trash behind my back need to say it to my face so I can handle it just like I handled Douglas". No one moved to which TO replied, "Thats what I thought."
too funny...he punked the whole team!...:laughing:...seriously tho you know s**t is f**ked up when you\'re fighting among your teammates....i don\'t even think T.O. would be satisfied with payton manning or joe montana...:p...i was watching espn yesterday and they were sayin\' that some eagles secretly agree with T.O. on some issues...one being that the eagles don\'t pay they\'re players properly..then shortly after westbrook gets his contract.....
ultimately tho at the end of the day he\'s wrong...yea he gives any team a more balanced attack, but it\'s not like the eagle\'s have won every game with him in there....and he does seem to bitch and moan like a little girl when his team lose....if you really wanna stop these glamour crybabies from acting like this, sheeit just cut their salary...:p....that\'s why they pop s**t whenever they\'re suspended...they were interviewing T.O at his crib about the whole situation and wasn\'t even sweatin\' it...trust if alot of these cats wasn\'t gettin paid half as much, you wouldn\'t see all this drama on or off the field....
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I am backing T.O on this one. If you have something to say about me say. Then say it too my face. Not behind my back when I am gone. Be a man about it. There is a lot to explain why the eagles suck so bad.
It\'s not T.O to blame. The bronco\'s made the eagles look like a jr varsity team. And McNabb has a world of hurt going on with him. Face it the eagles are done. They have no other star wide receiver. We all saw what happen in the superbowl to philly.
Without T.O this offense is done. McNabb needs to get his shit together. My question though is look at Andy Reid. You\'ll find out where all the eagles problems start right there.
Go lions way to lose
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I am backing T.O on this one. If you have something to say about me say. Then say it too my face. Not behind my back when I am gone. Be a man about it. There is a lot to explain why the eagles suck so bad.
It\'s not T.O to blame. The bronco\'s made the eagles look like a jr varsity team. And McNabb has a world of hurt going on with him. Face it the eagles are done. They have no other star wide receiver. We all saw what happen in the superbowl to philly.
Without T.O this offense is done. McNabb needs to get his shit together. My question though is look at Andy Reid. You\'ll find out where all the eagles problems start right there.
Go lions way to lose
yea well i heard when T.O. complained about people talkin\' behind his back, but this thing here has been goin on waaay before that....it\'s unprofessional...and mcnabb? i think he\'s just slightly above average..i mean he\'s good but nothing to what everybody thinks he is.... imo of course. but why is everybody sayin to look at coach reid? like he\'s the problem?....anyone care to elaborate?
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T.O. is not worth the trouble, IMO. He\'s a showboating asshole who demoralizes his teammates, and basically comes off hurting the image of the league. I\'d take Marvin Harrison anytime over him. He\'s a great receiver who knows what a being a team player is all about, and he brings class and integrity to the game.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I am backing T.O on this one. If you have something to say about me say. Then say it too my face. Not behind my back when I am gone. Be a man about it. There is a lot to explain why the eagles suck so bad.
It\'s not T.O to blame. The bronco\'s made the eagles look like a jr varsity team. And McNabb has a world of hurt going on with him. Face it the eagles are done. They have no other star wide receiver. We all saw what happen in the superbowl to philly.
Without T.O this offense is done. McNabb needs to get his shit together. My question though is look at Andy Reid. You\'ll find out where all the eagles problems start right there.
Go lions way to lose
Ok, your somewhat smart, here go to work and belittle your boss/supervisor and then say the other company or other supervisors are so great and see how long you last, I don\'t care how you like to see it its the same thing.
T.O is by all means wrong and he should be fired for conduct detrimental to the team and fuck for himself there goes his money, no one\'s going to pay him what they would\'ve if he\'d just shut the fuck up, he\'s so fucking stupid its not even believable.
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/ waits for Hurricane to come in so I can gloat on how bad the Patriots sucked .
:)
Uh-huh..
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I am backing T.O on this one. If you have something to say about me say. Then say it too my face. Not behind my back when I am gone. Be a man about it. There is a lot to explain why the eagles suck so bad.
It\'s not T.O to blame. The bronco\'s made the eagles look like a jr varsity team. And McNabb has a world of hurt going on with him. Face it the eagles are done. They have no other star wide receiver. We all saw what happen in the superbowl to philly.
Without T.O this offense is done. McNabb needs to get his shit together. My question though is look at Andy Reid. You\'ll find out where all the eagles problems start right there.
Why am I not surprised you\'d say something like this. A team divided isn\'t a team, and thats T.O.\'s fault. He\'s a disease, and will be to any team. His contract worked so that he got paid hansomly his first season then the 2nd was much lower. It was gonna be better in the coming seasons but of course he had to be "typical" about this and hold out. The first thing the eagles need to do is get rid of him for good.
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The first thing the NFL needs to do is get rid of him...for good.
Oh ..did I mention that the Colts SPANKED New England?!?! Just making sure I mentioned that.
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Originally posted by Bozco
Why am I not surprised you\'d say something like this. A team divided isn\'t a team, and thats T.O.\'s fault. He\'s a disease, and will be to any team. His contract worked so that he got paid hansomly his first season then the 2nd was much lower. It was gonna be better in the coming seasons but of course he had to be "typical" about this and hold out. The first thing the eagles need to do is get rid of him for good.
serious..the eagles were NEVER in the media..i never heard anything about them in the offseason. Now TO made the eagles the biggest joke of the season. More people are concerned about TO than their D giving up a billion points a game, and hes bringing more controversy in philly than i can ever remember andy reid having to deal with. I even remember that they said they were proud of how low-key they were, trying to prove that theyd be fine with TO. He proved them wrong..
and will hurricane finally admit that the patriots have too many injuries? and the loss of their coordinators are hurting. They had payton\'s number every single game..and if u notice in all of the clips of them owning payton, its either ty law or harrison in the picture.
BRUSCHI=SUPERBOWL :bow:
(that smiley says "bow"..but it looks like hes banging his head into the floor)
edit: in other, more important news..panther cheerleaders got kicked off the squad for having sex in a bathroom stall...
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patriots lost to the colts... now everyone can be happy and get off my back.
I admit the Patriots are too weak in the secondary to be considered superbowl contenders, but a third straight AFC East title with that team is still in reach.
Congrats LIC, you finally get bragging rights.
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just..to elaborate..this was one of the cheerleaders: (im pretty sure..nfl.com said her name was angela, which is the same name thats on the panthers\' site)..couldnt find the other one..
bored? yes
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yeah thats a hawt cheerleader
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
patriots lost to the colts... now everyone can be happy and get off my back.
I admit the Patriots are too weak in the secondary to be considered superbowl contenders, but a third straight AFC East title with that team is still in reach.
Congrats LIC, you finally get bragging rights.
He\'s had bragging rights since the Patsies lost to the Dolphins last year.
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That cheerleader went muffdiving in the same bar where I met Vid & his crew for drinks... Big Log can really pound those Tequila Shooters when he\'s fellin\' it.
Oh, and I\'m just glad the Bills didn\'t lose again this week...
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saw the colts game last night....:laughing: i think when the colts were going for two when they were already up 40-21 was the icing on the cake!...why did that N.E. coach throw out the red flag?...i guess he was like "aw hell naw...wtf are they doin?".....and they challenged a play they knew they would lose....whelp i guess the colts was like "sheeit f**k that!...we\'re gonna rub this in they\'re face!...we might not get the opportunity to do this again!" :p....it\'s still possible tho that the colts will meet them again in tha playoffs ....
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
He\'s had bragging rights since the Patsies lost to the Dolphins last year.
wasn\'t that right before the patriots third superbowl championship?
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
wasn\'t that right before the patriots third superbowl championship?
Not quite coz you were gone for about at least a month. So that was well before the Superbowl.
Dallas Cowboys won 3 in 4 years, Steelers 4 in 6. San Fran...well...they have 5 Superbowl wins.
I still bring up the Steelers coz not only are they my team but I was old enough to see them win. :D
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Cheerleaders mug shots.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftampabay10.com%2Fassetpool%2Fimages%2F05116164948_cheerleaders.jpg&hash=c8ead1c4a690954d8d63441b4e6cdfb529d6ab69)
Oh yeah and Bruschi didn\'t do SHIT. He may as well stayed out.
It comes down to one thing tho\'. That is the playoffs. The Colts will see them again later this year and that is the game that will matter.
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I don\'t think the Patriots and Colts will meet again this season. It will be Denver and the Colts... and as usual the Broncos will fold against the Colts.
Unless Rodney Harrison has a miracle comeback, which WONT happen, the Patriots are going to have one of those "off" years, but trust me, they will be back next season, and they will address the secondary issues.
LIC, your team deserves credit where credit is due, yeah they haven\'t won the superbowl yet, but the one team that stood in their way is now out of the picture. If they don\'t win the superbowl this year, they won\'t win it for a long time to come, because there\'s no way they can afford to keep Manning, Harrison, AND Edge, it\'s just not financially feasible unless one takes a paycut.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Not quite coz you were gone for about at least a month. So that was well before the Superbowl.
Dallas Cowboys won 3 in 4 years, Steelers 4 in 6. San Fran...well...they have 5 Superbowl wins.
I still bring up the Steelers coz not only are they my team but I was old enough to see them win. :D
You should just shut up and stop talking, you don\'t know what was going on during that time.
I hate to drop down to your level, but to be quite honest, your annoying and nobody likes you.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
You should just shut up and stop talking, you don\'t know what was going on during that time.
I hate to drop down to your level, but to be quite honest, your annoying and nobody likes you.
Everything I typed in that reply is true. If the truth hurts, then you need to go back on your disappearing act. See you in a month.
Bubye.
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I like Gman
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mee to. your a jerk.
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ditto and making you a red sox fan is double worse.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Everything I typed in that reply is true. If the truth hurts, then you need to go back on your disappearing act. See you in a month.
Bubye.
Hmmmm... that\'s ironic, asking me to do the same thing your criticizing me for.
Think that over for a bit...
:rolleyes:
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I tend to agree with Gman on this one even tho\' he is abit annoying sometimes.
LIC, your team deserves credit where credit is due, yeah they haven\'t won the superbowl yet, but the one team that stood in their way is now out of the picture. If they don\'t win the superbowl this year, they won\'t win it for a long time to come, because there\'s no way they can afford to keep Manning, Harrison, AND Edge, it\'s just not financially feasible unless one takes a paycut.
Last I heard this wasn\'t a big concern. Dungy and the crew know this and are in the process of working something out about it. I would expect someone to take a paycut.
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I like Gman. The Gman appreciation thread I started was one of the best ever. I think I\'ll dig it up.
Originally posted by QuDDus
I am backing T.O on this one. If you have something to say about me say. Then say it too my face. Not behind my back when I am gone. Be a man about it. There is a lot to explain why the eagles suck so bad.
That\'s a pretty petty and immature way to look at the situation. In high-school that wouldn\'t even be the right attitude to have.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Last I heard this wasn\'t a big concern. Dungy and the crew know this and are in the process of working something out about it. I would expect someone to take a paycut.
i think its up between edge, freeney, and wayne. If they had the same offense as last year, edge doing a lot of work and not getting the pay-dirt, i could see edge not willing to take a pay cut. But because his role has increased so much i think hell be more humble and willing to take a paycut. Seems kind of opposite than what it should be.. Or someone already signed like manning or harrison will. Id be surprised if they lost someone big even though the situation is tough.
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I remember ESPN having something on this saying they saw no reason that the Colts wouldn\'t be able to sign them. I would say that is one of those things that the Colts team is ready for and fully expect to happen durin\' the off-season. With that said, it would still be a huge loss for the team if ANY of them left, including Stokley.
Fact is, the Colts team, as it is, has a bunch of great players that are just playing off each other. I think that is why they are so succesful. Much like the Patriots.
With all that said, I knew if the Colts did manage to lose lastnight, it would of been a mental problem. It was obvious Manning was nevrous until they got a nice solid lead and that is really when the Colts calmed down and executed properly.
Oh and for all the talk about the improved Colts defense, well, guess what? It still needs a lot of work. There is simply way to many missed tackles goin\' on for the Colts to be succesful in the post-season.
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Hey, Jumpy, were you being serious or funny? I can\'t tell.
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Colts looked good, but not so good on defense.
I think the pass rush was good, but our Secondarys tackleing was crappy, as well as some blown coverage by our Linebackers covering NE\'s Tight Ends.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Hey, Jumpy, were you being serious or funny? I can\'t tell.
Neither can I sadly. :(
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I think the Pats did manage to expose the Colts\' defense but that was overshadowed by the ass whuppin the Colts offense put on the Pats\' D. The Patriots offense can contend but the defense will continue to be our achilles heel unless the coaching staff can come up with some sort of quick fix.
Only good news for the Pats is that the second half of the season is A LOT easier than the first and they have a chance to rest some players and gain some momentum for a postseason push.
I don\'t know what happened to C-Dill during the offseason but he has been running like a 70 year old all season. Its like he is in the wrong gear out there.
Funny thing is that this loss didn\'t hurt as much as the Chargers loss because I wasn\'t expecting a win this time. Que sera, sera.
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vermiel has some BALLS huh?
GO CHIEFS
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I tend to agree with Gman on this one even tho\' he is abit annoying sometimes.
Me? Annoying? Well...you....You snore really loud. Now THAT\'S annoying. :mad:
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Word is Priest Holmes has a lump on his spine the size of a golf ball. One more big hit and he could be paralyzed.
Rumors are swirling that he may retire tomorrow...
:(
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If I was him I would, he needs to take care of himself, LJ is great and especially since he\'s from Penn St.
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Hell, I would. If he saved his NFL money and didn\'t waste it on blow, he could retire rich.
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According to several scouts, the three top prospective free-agent wide receivers next March figure to be New England\'s David Givens, Indianapolis\' Reggie Wayne and Pittsburgh\'s Antwaan Randle El. One interesting name that might appeal to the Eagles is the Chargers\' Reche Caldwell.
Interesting.
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i\'d be shocked if the rooney\'s let randle el go.
he\'s far too versatile, even if he drops alot of passes and whines for interferance penalties.
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Bettis was willing to re-negotiate his own salary just to keep another player. Man, I forgot who it was though. Rooneys are somewhat frugal when it comes to these things, though. Salary caps being the biggest issue obviously. But signing bonuses, aren\'t those up to the owners and not capped by the league?
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Originally posted by JBean
Word is Priest Holmes has a lump on his spine the size of a golf ball. One more big hit and he could be paralyzed.
Rumors are swirling that he may retire tomorrow...
:(
i heard about that..in a different league i traded holmes to an unsuspected victim,lol..i also lost a few other people (ward, galloway) but i got shaun alexander.
that does suck though..even as a bronco fan, it sucks to see someone like him retire, especially since he didnt make it as a starter till way later than he shouldve.
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yeah, he\'s one of the few truly classy guys left in the nfl. He\'s been put on IR so he is done for the year, but isn\'t retiring yet.
So who the hell knows.
Drafting Larry Johnson a few years back looks better and better now. When do we play you guys, in a few weeks right?
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4 more weeks. Thats definitly going to be the deciding factor. The rest of the broncos schedule isnt too tough, dallas, KC, and the chargers pose some threat but theyve beaten SD and KC. Only difference is KC might have roaf back by the time they face denver. KC\'s schedule is a little tougher, dallas, SD, @ giants (where eli plays well)..im not convinved cinci can beat good teams because theyve lost the games that had to win to show they could contend in the playoffs.
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Colts...WIN./
Go Miami!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/watches last two mintues
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Miami lost on a 4th and goal.
Bright side? More Patriot nuts are hurt.
In other news.
54 seconds.
Vikings and Giants.
21 to 21.
Who will it be?
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you were wrong about boller LIC,heh. knew he was going to come back and be craptacular. trade boller for a 3rd round pick er something and get leinart..
go broncos
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God that Giants game hurt. We could not possibly have tried harder to lose that game.
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So...How about Rand El..err..Maddox...?
:D
I can\'t believe Maddox is back in the game.
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I was at the beach yesterday. Steelers won, I heard. Maddox played?????? Huh?
Whuh happa to Charlie Biatch?
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broken throwing hand
tommy is probably starting next week again baltimore too
but if duece keeps running the way he is, tommy just hand to hand him the ball all day
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They had a great reversal play to Randal El, who throw for a scoring pass to Hines Ward, if I remember correctly. He also took a snap and ran for 12 yards. Basically, Maddox done NOTHING the second half.
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he threw an int,lol..they coudve just run the clock down a little more before a field goal, but they decided to give maddox a chance of getting the 1st down (D was putting almost 11 people in the box)..int..
maddox needs the xfl back.
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Send him to the AFL! Or maybe one of those pussy Euro leagues! ;)
That INT was called back, due to a penatly, if I remember correctly.
Like to see Philly prove they can do something without TO and beat the hell out of the Dallas Cowgirls.
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i normally wouldnt think the coaches would pass to TO just because they know hes going to bitch if they dont..but i honestly think they changed their gameplan when they had him in order to keep him happy, so they threw the ball 70% of the game..amazinly he still bitched but thats beside the point.
now i think theyre getting back in the rhythm of having westbrook and the TE\'s being the main guys in the offense.
i forgot maddox\'s int was called back. still enough to get everyone in that stadium pissed off at him,lol. Wonder who they will sign if batch is out, they had randel el as their backup to maddox.
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I wouldn\'t be surprised of Big Ben comes back abit early. Should they bring him back? No. There is no reason to. In the large scope of things, next Sunday is not a big game and they can take a possible loss. Let him heal up for the Colts game in two weeks. That is the game they need to win, if nothing else, to prove something.
Anyone catch the last two mintues of the Monday night game? Mcnabb threw the INT, got hit and came back out. Now, what I don\'t understand is why they put him back out there. He was obviously still in pain, which means he was goin\' to do more harm to the team than good and that is exactly what happened. He could barely move around and what happened? Not only did they go four and out on a crucial drive, but he got hurt AGAIN . There was no point in waiting until the NEXT drive to put the back up in. Infact , if Andy and the Eagles personnel would of went ahead and do it following the INT, they may of stood a better chance. It would of at least gave your back up some kind of chance, instead of throwing him out there with 40 seconds and no time outs.
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I caught the last 2 minutes, and I love it.
Cowboys are on top of the NFC east. And their schedule looks marvelous.
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Originally posted by Halberto
I caught the last 2 minutes, and I love it.
Cowboys are on top of the NFC east. And their schedule looks marvelous.
except for the fact that when they play the Gmen, they will lose. Oh and Denver on thanksgiving looks like a lot of fun.
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ahhh my boys just love givin\' me ulcers. :D i\'ll take the win tho...oh and hurricane....we\'ll whoop the gmen...and we\'re gonna shove that turkey straight down denver\'s throats!....:fro:
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Umm.... go Bills? I can\'t believe they\'re where they are in the AFC playing like that...
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Originally posted by clips
ahhh my boys just love givin\' me ulcers. :D i\'ll take the win tho...oh and hurricane....we\'ll whoop the gmen...and we\'re gonna shove that turkey straight down denver\'s throats!....:fro:
That fucking game pissed me off. I hate the Dallas Cowfuckers. As a Redskins and Steelers fan, I have twice the hatred for the Dallas Cowdung than your average hater.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
That fucking game pissed me off. I hate the Dallas Cowfuckers. As a Redskins and Steelers fan, I have twice the hatred for the Dallas Cowdung than your average hater.
ahh gman...just because we whooped ya\'ll in the 90\'s (that\'s payback for those loses back in tha 70\'s ;) ).....that\'s no reason to be salty...i\'m not even sure if we have the pittsburgh panties on our schedule this year, if we did we would whoop that ass like we did in our last superbowl meeting...:fro: :D
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Dallas at Washington
Sunday, Dec. 18
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^? Again?
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Originally posted by clips
ahh gman...just because we whooped ya\'ll in the 90\'s (that\'s payback for those loses back in tha 70\'s ;) ).....that\'s no reason to be salty...i\'m not even sure if we have the pittsburgh panties on our schedule this year, if we did we would whoop that ass like we did in our last superbowl meeting...:fro: :D
Steelers have and always will be better than the Cowboys.
Steelers almost won that game til O\'Chokell threw that last interception when the Steelers were just trailing by 3. :mad:
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Steelers have and always will be better than the Cowboys.
Steelers almost won that game til O\'Chokell threw that last interception when the Steelers were just trailing by 3. :mad:
heh yea...i remember that game. it was close, but my boys absolutely had to win that game...we just had to get that monkey off our backs....that scenario was symbolic to tha colts/ patriots rivalry....in any case tho, that last meeting where we whooped ya\'ll is thee only one that matters!....:D....*runs*
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I\'m old enough to remember 4 Superbowl wins, 2 at the expense of the Cowboys. Coz they suck. :p
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i need some fantasy football help. I cant decide who to play at WR:
Joe Horn vs the pats
Santana Moss vs the raiders
Moss has gotten pretty good yards, but not TD\'s the last few weeks. But he faces a horrible, beat up secondary. Horn has been hurt, made it through a game and had a bye to rest a whole week, and faces a beat up pats secondary who gave up 300 yards to gus ferotte. Plus dante stallworth is hurt so horn is definitly the main guy.
my other recievers are steve smith and fitzgerald. Definitly starting fitz because of the matchup, and i think i have to start steve smith but he does face a very good bears D.
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Santana Moss, Santana Moss, Santana Moss.
Horn has had a very off year and has nagging injuries. The Pats secondary may be practically non existant, but the Raiders also have a pretty pitiful pass defense (23rd in the NFL). Stallworth not being in the game or not being at full speed doesn\'t help Horn\'s numbers, it hurts them. It just means the defense will pay more attention to him, and it\'ll be tougher for him to get open.
Moss is one of the best fantasy plays at WR this year. He played good defenses the last two weeks when he was held scoreless, and still put up about 80 yards each game.
But most imporantly look at it this way. Moss has 935 yards and 5 scores this year. Horn has 346 yards and one score. That\'s like 3 games for Moss, and Horn has taken twice that long to put up those numbers.
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Luke should be happy with this Bears - Panthers game. Carolina obviously thought this was goin\' to be a no show on the Bears part and they was dead wrong.
BRINNNNNG on the Colts - Bengals game!
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i will officially shut my mouth (havent talked about it here) how i thought big ben wasnt as good as people are saying. Whether the stats are true or not, hes a perfect fit for them and seems to be just as needed as manning is to the colts..might be a stretch but the steelers need ben.
Pretty boring games this week though minding a couple close ones. Wish i could see the colts vs bengals game..huge play to reggie wayne? bengals will just make a huge play to chad johnson..
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Bengals vs Colts came.
Offensive powerhouses.
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r u serious... Brooks Bollinger is out with a head injury now.
If I\'m a QB I do NOT want to play for the Jets.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Bengals vs Colts came.
Offensive powerhouses.
mannings going crazy,lol. Stuck watching this boring ass bills vs chargers game. Wish digital cable didnt buy that nfl thing..still not worth going to satellite though.
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no shit, that game sucks....
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3-15-CIN 45(9:19) (No Huddle, Shotgun) P.Manning pass to B.Stokley to CIN 21 for 24 yards (D.O´Neal).
have a feeling this was the first of a couple nails in the coffin that are about to come. I had a feeling the bengals wouldnt pull of a win..just like the games against other good teams like the steelers and jaguars.
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The Bengals have put a good effort up, but that Palmer INT most likely sealed the game up. It still isn\'t out of reach for the Bengals tho\'. Just not likely.
Bring on the Steelers now. After watchin\' the Ravens\' manhandle them, the Colts should be able to put that one away with ease, even with Big Ben comin\' back.
/ edit
Mark this one in the book. Colts win ...
10 - 0 :p
Next Monday, Steelers - Colts. Sadly, I have to work...Son\'a\'bitch!
:mad:
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i\'m happy,... dallas won,.:fro:..saw most of the colts/ bengals game, but i knew that if cincy got into a shootout with indy, they would surely loose, still both sides put up points...solid effort on cincy\'s part...LIC...i gotta tell ya, this has gotta be the colt\'s year!...:p
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im giving the broncos the edge,lol. Heres my prediction:
the colts will lose one game, maybe to the chargers if gates is okay. So theyll sit edge, probably not manning because the guy never sits out. Edge will get rusty over a week, then they face denver. Denver ALWAYS wins in the regular season, the first matchup, then the colts gameplan and completely demolish the broncos in the playoffs. The difference this season? they dont play eachother in the regular season so the playoffs would be their first matchup where the broncos have the upper hand. HAAAA! (im pessimistic so i cant help but think the broncos will lose 40-0,lol)
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The Bears.
That is all.
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G-men defeated a depleted Eagles team, I don\'t think the Eagles had a chance with McNabb or without.
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w00t! the Patriots beat one of the worst teams in the league by a mere touchdown! Yeah were rockin\'
Next week we get to have fun in Kansas City...
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
im giving the broncos the edge,lol. Heres my prediction:
the colts will lose one game, maybe to the chargers if gates is okay. So theyll sit edge, probably not manning because the guy never sits out. Edge will get rusty over a week, then they face denver. Denver ALWAYS wins in the regular season, the first matchup, then the colts gameplan and completely demolish the broncos in the playoffs. The difference this season? they dont play eachother in the regular season so the playoffs would be their first matchup where the broncos have the upper hand. HAAAA! (im pessimistic so i cant help but think the broncos will lose 40-0,lol)
Uhm..Hmph...Decent logic, I guess. Well, not really - but kudos to you for thinkin\' that up!
:p
Originally posted by Luke
The Bears.
That is all.
I watched that game today. Wow, the Bears crushed the Panthers.
Originally posted by clips
i\'m happy,... dallas won,.:fro:..saw most of the colts/ bengals game, but i knew that if cincy got into a shootout with indy, they would surely loose, still both sides put up points...solid effort on cincy\'s part...LIC...i gotta tell ya, this has gotta be the colt\'s year!...:p
It was a shootout at first, but then the Colts realized that the defense would have to start crackin\' down and they did. That is the difference in the Colt\'s this year and last year. If this was last year\'s Colts, they would of most likely lost.
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sounds like TO is going to get his suspension reduced. Now its up to the decision of whether TO can stay on the eagles and just be deactivated for the rest of the games or if theyre going to force the eagles to release him and put TO on waivers.
ESPN had a little special and my heart kinda dropped when they said the broncos were the only one to add up,lol. I mean..shanahan has taken chances. Maurice Clarrett comes to mind, and a few others that they mentioned i dont remember. They dont need a star WR though..theyre fine with reliable rod smith, deep pass/crazy catches to lelie, and the young WR\'s doing their small part. Couldnt even imagine TO on a team where running means so much to them.
Holgrem said he wants no part (cuz he was with reid in green bay), so that knocks the seahawks out who i thought was going to get him. The Falconsare my other thought but again..running team, vick isnt a conventional passer so he wont get the ball to TO moer than 5 times a game. The Jets have bigger problems. Maybe the chiefs..i just pray the broncos dont do it.
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Redskins AND Steelers lost.
I\'m gonna kick a small child in the face for compensation.
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Arbitrator upheld the suspension, woot.
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BRONCOS!!!!!
man..i knew ron dayne wouldnt be the same as the giants. Hes got the p[erfect size/speed for their offense. But its hard to try him out while they got bell and anderson with 600 yards a-piece. But dayne completely came through.
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So, I go to take a nice poop and before I get out the OT is over. Jesus christ! Good job on the Bronco\'s side, they played an ugly game and still came out smelling like roses. Impressive..
Bring on Monday night\'s game. I will have to work unless the old lady goes into full labor (she is already havin\' early labor and expected to have them before end of this week, early next!). I say the Colt\'s will win, but the Steelers will keep it close.
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Pats are DONE.... wow.... GO CHIEFS!
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jbean, jbean..u should know the patriots better than that..
i hate both of these teams so..double edge sword for who to root for. I will be sick to my stomach if the pats go anywhere in the playoffs, or even the superbowl. Seeing as brady is unbelievable in the playoffs im not putting them out of it despite how poor they are compared to other teams.
i have larry johnson on my fantasy team so i kind of root for him, but the broncos being up by 3 in the division would be nice.
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Interception sealed it for KC, LJ is a beast I\'ve got Carson Palmer and the bears as my defense, they score better than my rb\'s as of late.
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hehe.... I really was pulling for the cowboys on thanksgiving. Think about how huge the game would be next week with the broncos only being up one game. It\'s still a huge game regardless. Really can\'t wait for the game next week, no team i\'d rather beat into a pulp than your stupid donkeys.
;)
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/does the Pats lost AGAIN dance.
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giants are gonna pull it out
that was one hell of a catch by toomer
EDIT: Maybe not.....
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ok well that wen\'t exactly as I thought it would... at least we play all crappy teams (with the exception of Tampa Bay) from here on out.
We get to play one team with injury problems that rival ours next week, THE JETS! I can actually expect a win!
ugh just let us finish the season 10-6, get to the playoffs, and get smoked. I\'ll just be happy to make the postseason with all the friggin injuries we had this year.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
ok well that wen\'t exactly as I thought it would... at least we play all crappy teams (with the exception of Tampa Bay) from here on out.
We get to play one team with injury problems that rival ours next week, THE JETS! I can actually expect a win!
ugh just let us finish the season 10-6, get to the playoffs, and get smoked. I\'ll just be happy to make the postseason with all the friggin injuries we had this year.
Oh hold on.
You Patsy fans kept saying your season would be a big turn around once Bruschi came back..Once Dillion was back..Etc..Etc...They are back and you\'re still losin\'.
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FYI Dillon doesn\'t come back til this Sunday, he\'s on my fantasy team and has been a real big dissapointment, freaking Patsy\'s
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Incase you\'ve been under a rock this season, Dillon has been plagued by an ankle injury. Please don\'t lecture me that injuries are part of the game... that\'s if there\'s an injury here or an injury there. When half your team gets injured, it\'s a problem, just ask the Jets.
Like I said, I\'ll be content with 10-6 and a playoff birth.
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so mooch got fired. I personally like mariucci, but he doesnt really have the "fire" (no pun intended) that it seems the lions need. They have to play better with the guys they have on offense and even defense.
Im not sure if hes that good defensivly, but there are a few teams that he could join: my guesses are the vikings, ravens, bills, texans. Maybe even the rams and chiefs if the coaches dont return.
In the end, i think tice\'s job will be saved by how crappy the NFC is because the vikings will get in the wildcard. And i dunno if the ravens and bills will release their coaches so mooch will get stuck on the horrible texans. Maybe if he drafts some linemen er something..
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Tice\'s job will be saved. If anything hurts his job it is the cruise scandal.
I would imagine that "Mooch" is a very likely canidate for the Texans, where he will do NOTHING for the team.
Oh and as much as I like the Steelers....
11 - 0
Spanked!
:p
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I knew they\'d lose. Steelers got thay asses whoop!
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I heard something on sports radio this morning that I totally agree with. They compared Peyton Manning to Nomar Garciaparra.
Nomar always adjusting his gloves pissing everyone off, Manning always shaking his hands and waving around having a seizure before every play. Not saying he isn\'t the best QB in the league, maybe end up being the greatest ever (stats wise).
I just find his antics annoying
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Oh hold on.
You Patsy fans kept saying your season would be a big turn around once Bruschi came back..Once Dillion was back..Etc..Etc...They are back and you\'re still losin\'.
Who said that? There are only two Pats fans that post in this thread and I don\'t remember either of us saying that.
Its always funny to see the Colts fans get smug and start sucking each others\' dicks for winning the regular season championship. Whats this the third season in a row? You guys are a dynasty. lol
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy91%2FJayWeezy%2Fpats2004.jpg&hash=1fcde69a951b1b84991a2de81f41804f43be71c8)
Suck it.
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Hurricane has constantly stated that once Bruschi came back..Or once Dillion was a hundred percent. He constantly made excuses for losing, instead of - hey, guess what? We sucked. Just like , guess what? The Colts sucked last year at the playoffs. Hell, I don\'t even think the Colts will be Superbowl champs this year!
Sucking each other\'s dicks? Why so harsh? No one has said anything to you. Dynasty? Who said anything of that? Don\'t start making stuff up. Infact, the only thing anyone has said, has been 11 - 0. I said that. I also made a comment about the Pat\'s losing, like I always do. Why? Because I have never been a Pat\'s fan. Just like when Tampa loses, I celebrate. Yet, you are gettin\' your panties all in a bunch.
And that ring is wrong - they aren\'t world champions! They never played the Euro\'s damnit!
:mad:
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In other news, I won $580 this week.... would have been a cool $800 if the Bills could have kept them to 3... losers.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Hell, I don\'t even think the Colts will be Superbowl champs this year!
:rolleyes:
Who is going to beat them? The team that looks best suited for beating them is the Broncos and we saw what the Colts did to the Broncos with only 3/4 of a good squad last year.
Don\'t get me wrong. Nothing would make me happier than seeing Peyton go undefeated in the regular season and lose again in the AFC playoffs but I\'m a realist. They are the best squad in football until proven otherwise.
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The Steelers will have their REVENGE! *shakes cock in hand*
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I readily admitted the Patriots were flawed after the Colts game... and again after last week. Anyone with half an offense will beat the Patriots.
Well guess what, the Patriots are still going to the playoffs, and they are still going to be a factor. Say the Colts do win this year, like I think they will, will they be able to continue to win year after year while losing key players?
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
The Steelers will have their REVENGE! *shakes cock in hand*
uhm... shouldn\'t you be usin your idex finger and thumb to handle that toothpick of yours?..oh and steelers suck!...;)....ahem... dallas on the other hand is gonna whoop the gmen just like in our first meeting and then we\'ll reign supreme in tha nfc east..:fro:
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You are out of your mind boy!!!
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yeah Gmen all the way this weekend... I hate the cowboys...
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
I readily admitted the Patriots were flawed after the Colts game... and again after last week. Anyone with half an offense will beat the Patriots.
Well guess what, the Patriots are still going to the playoffs, and they are still going to be a factor. Say the Colts do win this year, like I think they will, will they be able to continue to win year after year while losing key players?
What key players? We\'ve been over this. They are commited to trying and find a way to keep all the key players. Will they? We don\'t know. Why speculate on things comin\' next season. It is pointless and just comes off as stupid...Enjoy this season, instead of goin\'...."what about next season?!?!". Friggin\' idiotic, I swear.
Originally posted by Black Samurai
:rolleyes:
Who is going to beat them? The team that looks best suited for beating them is the Broncos and we saw what the Colts did to the Broncos with only 3/4 of a good squad last year.
Don\'t get me wrong. Nothing would make me happier than seeing Peyton go undefeated in the regular season and lose again in the AFC playoffs but I\'m a realist. They are the best squad in football until proven otherwise.
To answer your question. Who will beat them? I don\'t know. But, I figure they will curl up and die in the AFC playoffs. It\'s just a gut feeling. Then again, I figured they would a few weeks back at New England.
Oh and.
HAHA@ Cowboys winnin\'! Thanks for the laugh.
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i luv the hate in hurr on tha cowboys,..which is gonna make it even betta when whoop the gmen...LIC,..hurricane, mj...you cats are in for a rude awakening.....i\'ll have the pepto ready for you guys tho, when your team loses this weekend....and you too gman!..;)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
To answer your question. Who will beat them? I don\'t know. But, I figure they will curl up and die in the AFC playoffs. It\'s just a gut feeling. Then again, I figured they would a few weeks back at New England.
I will barf if new england beats the broncos or colts in the playoffs (im not writing them off with brady in the playoffs). They dont deserve it. Be in the other AFC divisions and see where new england is. Theyve lost to everyone in the AFC (that arent in their division) except the steelers and the raiders when the season started and they had harrison.
I have no idea if the broncos can do it. They are very different from last season. Bailey has a crap load of interceptions, even though he was banged up for a few weeks, the D in general is finally getting turnovers, Ian Gold is back, the browns linemen are playing really well, darrent williams and foxworth have been a surprise...but i cant help but think the colts will win 42-3.
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dosen\'t matter
your boys will lose this weekend
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
I will barf if new england beats the broncos or colts in the playoffs (im not writing them off with brady in the playoffs). They dont deserve it. Be in the other AFC divisions and see where new england is. Theyve lost to everyone in the AFC (that arent in their division) except the steelers and the raiders when the season started and they had harrison.
LOL, everyone used to see the AFC East as a powerhouse, and now its the joke of the AFC. Don\'t hold it against the Patriots, you don\'t exactly get to choose your division. Just remember on most years the AFC East is a powerhouse... this year its every teams house of pain. The AFC East must have more injuries than the rest of the NFL combined.
So yeah the AFC East is a joke, but please don\'t use that as an excuse as to why the Patriots are making the division. It\'s not their fault.
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I recall back in the good ole days of NFC East destroying everyone they faced, Redskins/Giants/Cowgirls. *sigh*
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
LOL, everyone used to see the AFC East as a powerhouse, and now its the joke of the AFC. Don\'t hold it against the Patriots, you don\'t exactly get to choose your division. Just remember on most years the AFC East is a powerhouse... this year its every teams house of pain. The AFC East must have more injuries than the rest of the NFL combined.
So yeah the AFC East is a joke, but please don\'t use that as an excuse as to why the Patriots are making the division. It\'s not their fault.
no, its more that their losing to the broncos, chiefs, san diego, and indy. Indy has 2 crappy teams in their division but theyre beating everyone else along with the guys in their division.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
I recall back in the good ole days of NFC East destroying everyone they faced, Redskins/Giants/Cowgirls. *sigh*
Those days are coming back. All three of those teams are certainly teams on the rise.
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I would say all three are on the rise - but I think the Cowgirls will still fall short.
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the redskins have been pretty bad since the loss to the giants. D is giving up a lot more points than usual, portis is overrated because hes from denver, and brunell hasnt played as well as he was when the season started. If anyone i think itll be them that falls short, and will be at the bottom of the division when the eagles rebound. Cowgirls could have a pretty scary offense if they blocked for bledsoe every game and julius jones made it through a season. Now they might be interested in TO,lol. peerless price, meshawn, terry glenn, witten and TO on the same team? think TO would make it about 4 weeks with all those other recievers around him.
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let\'s see.... my boys have whooped the eagle\'s twice and we whooped the gmen already,...hmmm washington was thee only team that beat us in our division....i\'m sure we could give tha colts a run...(LIC)..;)....in the state that the patriots are in we would destroy them...(hurricane).;)..and who else was poppin\' s**t?..mj? i\'m not sure who your team is, but i\'m sure dallas would whoop they\'re ass too...:fro: :p
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i thought this was funny as hell in an espn.com Q&A article:
Q: Wouldn\'t it be pretty funny to hear ESPN\'s "Sunday Night Football" crew give a eulogy?
-- Alex, Syosset, NY
SG: Actually, I was hoping for a Pat Morita tribute during the Saints-Jets game...
Patrick: Guys, we\'d be remiss if we didn\'t say good-bye to one of the great, great actors of our generation, Pat Morita -- what an actor this guy was! Just a great, great, great actor.
Theismann: Mike, when we talked to John Avildsen, the director of "The Karate Kid," he told us that Pat Morita was one of the greatest actors he ever worked with. I mean, here\'s a guy who was simply robbed for the 1984 Best Supporting Actor by Dr. Haing S. Ngor.
Maguire: I\'m gonna tell you what a great actor this guy was. Watch this clip from the first "Karate Kid" when he saves Daniel-San on Halloween ... watch him jump this fence and take out the Cobra Kai -- here it comes, here it comes, WHAM! BAM! Right there! And look at his feet! See his feet moving! Is this guy something? You think this guy doesn\'t know karate?
Patrick: What a scene for Pat Morita! HOLY COW!
Theismann: And guys, when we talked to Jimmy Franklin, the head writer for "Happy Days" back in 1977, he told us that Pat Morita was the easiest guy he has ever written for -- and this is a guy who wrote for Pat Schneider, Vic Tayback, Conrad Bain and pretty much every great sitcom actor from that decade.
No one can do the crane like Pat. Mr. Miyagi, we\'ll miss you!
Maguire: And Joe, you want to talk about a guy who could steal a scene? This guy could steal scenes. He\'d steal \'em right out of thin air! And you know the thing about Pat Morita -- when he belted out a line like "wax on, wax off," I\'m gonna tell you somethin\' right now: You believed him. You waxed on, and you waxed off.
Theismann: I\'m not so sure he wasn\'t the greatest character actor of all-time.
Patrick: What a great, great actor and what a huge, huge loss -- you cannot say enough about it. So long, Pat Morita
I seriously cant stand the sunday night football guys. If "THIS GUY IS THE GREATEST......." is this week, then what about the guy that was the greatest at it last week? YES, they are all talented..they better be getting paid millions..dumbasses. And i can no longer trust the names announcers say. Even though it could be someone like the guys on Fox in the morning game who rarely mess up the name, ill think theyre naming the wrong person like they do 70% of the time on SNF.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
i thought this was funny as hell in an espn.com Q&A article:
That is from the Boston Sports Guy\'s mailbag. He used to be guaranteed comedy gold a couple of years ago but he has been pretty much hit and miss after moving to the other side of the country and writing one article every two weeks.
Still, he is a biased Boston fan so I read him all the time.
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http://mikeyshow.com/boston_rob.html
Is it this guy? hes on in a morning radio show in san diego but hes not the main guy. Plus theres a better morning show than them so i never listen to them.
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Originally posted by clips
let\'s see.... my boys have whooped the eagle\'s twice and we whooped the gmen already,...hmmm washington was thee only team that beat us in our division....i\'m sure we could give tha colts a run...(LIC)..;)....in the state that the patriots are in we would destroy them...(hurricane).;)..and who else was poppin\' s**t?..mj? i\'m not sure who your team is, but i\'m sure dallas would whoop they\'re ass too...:fro: :p
Bud, the Cowgirls wouldn\'t be able to stand on the same field as the Colts. Every game they win is almost always close and then usually lose the other half. The Colts would take them and whip them around like nothing....The Patriots probably would also.
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Everything will be fine when the Gmen sack Mr. Bledsoe 5 times and take a couple picks from him, the Cowgirls won\'t be able to stoppy Armani/Burress/Shockey and Barber along with Manning.
All I\'m hoping for from Dallas is Meshawn score\'s a TD and has some yards.
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Personally, I think Sports Guy\'s finest moment came with the creation of his vengence scale, solely for the purpose of illustrating the difference between normal Shaq (LA Shaq) and Angry Shaq (Miami Shaq). That thing was amazing.
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Damn whoever has Lee Evans has some fantasy points 3 scores 109 yards, I wonder why nobody gives him any respect.
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because he does it like once every 8 weeks.
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It\'s not his fault he has the girly man Losman throwing to him, he had a lot of success with Bledsoe when the O Line decided to pass block for them.
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exactly...so he only does it like twice a year. Can show respect for his ability but you dont have to show respect in a double coverage or a "look out..evans will have a big game next week."
their whole team is like that..the defense has potential to do really well, but they dont always (especially after losing spikes). Moulds has been great in his career, has sucked the last 2 years minding a few games. Mcgehee is a great RB, he hasnt scored in like 5 games.
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Yea, true but the G-men are winning so I\'m happy.
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What\'d I say?
Giants over Cowgirls.
Oh and Bengals > Steelers.
The question is, was it because the Bengals was playing so good or because the Steelers was playing so terrible? I say it was the latter. Look at the turnovers on the Steelers side and look at how close the game was.
Oh and no surpirse..
Colts ...12 - 0
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Originally posted by clips
let\'s see.... my boys have whooped the eagle\'s twice and we whooped the gmen already,...hmmm washington was thee only team that beat us in our division....i\'m sure we could give tha colts a run...(LIC)..;)....in the state that the patriots are in we would destroy them...(hurricane).;)..and who else was poppin\' s**t?..mj? i\'m not sure who your team is, but i\'m sure dallas would whoop they\'re ass too...:fro: :p
Eat it. Giants with the division lead and tiebreaker.
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Well the way I see it is the Steelers haven\'t all been there together so it seems they are not just quite clicking and this is not the time to do it this late in the season.
G-Men won, where you at Clips?
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Patriots beat Jets
Gmen beat Cowboys
it was a good day... can\'t wait for next week.
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Patriots beat Jets...Big whoop. The only people who can\'t beat the Jets would be the Texans, and that is only because they do everything in the world to lose...
Denver loses to KC. Lynch should be benched for acting like an idiot and making the 4 pt situation even worse.
Monday, Dec 26th
New England / Jets
....I\'d laugh if they managed to lose that one, but they won\'t..
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Denver loses to KC. Lynch should be benched for acting like an idiot and making the 4 pt situation even worse.
i dunno man. they need to make a rule that if a reciever puts his helmet down, accidental contact cant be penalized. Gotta let the refs use their judgement instead of a black and white penalty for helmet-helmet. But getting penalized for bitching was stupid knowing his team needed as much field position as possible.
But the loss sucks..hopefully the chiefs schedule is too tough to overcome and the broncos win all their games they should so the last week against the chargers doesnt mean anything.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Lynch should be benched for acting like an idiot and making the 4 pt situation even worse.
Let them play football, instead of fucking putting skirts on them. Lynch should be pissed for that penalty.
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Should he be pissed for the penalty? Yes. Does that give him a right to bitch and then cause his team to lose another 15 yards on the kick off? NO! He hurt his team in the long run. That\'s the main thing. Him acting out caused more problems than anything.
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The fact that the Jets were held to only 3 points shows just how BAD the Jets really are.
The freaking Saints scored 17 points against the Pats.....the SAINTS.
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Steelers lost AGAIN! Three in a ROW!
I\'m so pissed......I will destroy someone\'s anus. Where\'s Natalie Portman?
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that chiefs/broncos game was about the best game i\'ve watched in a long time, glad it was on here in baltimore and I got to watch it here at home.
But shit, our remaing schedule
Cowboys
Giants
Chargers
Bengals
Brutal
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With the way you guys are playing now alot of your games are at home and that will benefit you greatly as you can see.
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ah hell...i didn\'t see the game, but i saw highlights,..i knew it would be a defensive standstill, but i was hoping dallas would pull it out...oh well no biggie..we beat them and they beat us,...sheeit and now we have to tackle kansas city next week....:(...ahh f**k it!..we\'re gonna do the rain dance on tha chiefs next week!..:fro:..i\'m poppin alot of s**t but seriously, dallas is slippin\'... washington is coming on strong, and even tho i hate their guts, the gmen are really playin some good football....
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Originally posted by clips
ah hell...i didn\'t see the game, but i saw highlights,..i knew it would be a defensive standstill, but i was hoping dallas would pull it out...oh well no biggie..we beat them and they beat us,...sheeit and now we have to tackle kansas city next week....:(...ahh f**k it!..we\'re gonna do the rain dance on tha chiefs next week!..:fro:..i\'m poppin alot of s**t but seriously, dallas is slippin\'... washington is coming on strong, and even tho i hate their guts, the gmen are really playin some good football....
KC will kill Dallas if they let Johnson do his thing. The man is a beast.
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cowboys are hard for me to guage. As much as I hate them, I have respect for Parcells and I actually like a few of their players.
I agree tho, if LJ can get his touches (he will, trust me) then this one won\'t be pretty for the cowgirls. Green seems to be in a groove now, with 8 defenders in the box to stop LJ, he\'s been picking apart people with the passing game. And dallas has some injuries in the secondary.
I can\'t remember the last time KC played Dallas, but it should be a great game.
Priest who? :eek:
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Originally posted by JBean
cowboys are hard for me to guage. As much as I hate them, I have respect for Parcells and I actually like a few of their players.
I agree tho, if LJ can get his touches (he will, trust me) then this one won\'t be pretty for the cowgirls. Green seems to be in a groove now, with 8 defenders in the box to stop LJ, he\'s been picking apart people with the passing game. And dallas has some injuries in the secondary.
I can\'t remember the last time KC played Dallas, but it should be a great game.
Priest who? :eek:
i honestly think if priest comes back itll hurt them. They need LJ in there as the feature back. The broncos are known for stuffing the run, but when LJ got the ball i knew they werent going to be able to stop them. The one time they made the huge run stop, the backup RB came in on 3rd and short for some weird ass reason. But LJ changed the broncos gameplan..they couldve punted it instead of going for 4th and a long one and make KC start a drive inside the 10 yard line and make them punt it back. But they knew they had a better chance of making a 4th and 1 than stopping LJ or a playaction.
I found it really weird how ian gold or dj williams were always the ones knocking kennison and parker out of bounds. Not sure what the broncos were doing that would keep matching a LB with a WR so im not surprised green was able to get a lot of shorter completions with ease.
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green had all day.. he was hardly even pressured.
That\'s what a healthy all-pro O-line will do for ya. :)
and I agree... Priest should see at most 5-10 carries a game. Pretty much only when LJ needs a breather. Tis a shame really, love the guy.. but the team comes first.
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Where is Quddus??? I want to laugh and point on how the Eagles got owned beyond belief.
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Originally posted by IareEthan BTW: Eagles finish 12-4, win the NFC East
:gay:
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Hey Jbean, if you don\'t mind if you could sit both your starting RB\'s and Qb in fantasy next week I\'d appreciate that greatly, ;)
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i know terril owens was laughing his ass off last night..:laughing:..he was probably givin\' some shorty brutal backshots while watching the game...:p...:fro:...eagles are done,..caput, finished, fineco,..alla- vista, bye-bye,..fried chicken wings,...ahh well we all know who\'s gonna finish last in tha nfc east...:D
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Should he be pissed for the penalty? Yes. Does that give him a right to bitch and then cause his team to lose another 15 yards on the kick off? NO! He hurt his team in the long run. That\'s the main thing. Him acting out caused more problems than anything.
Nobodys perfect 100% of the time. I\'d rather my players play with emotion out on the field. The fact that the refs dick him on those calls all the time is a complete joke.
PS: Even better, the analyst on espn said Lynch should get in their face over that terrible call. Watching it over again it was all forearm and headup. Weak
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Any indy fans know the likelyhood dungy\'s going to bench the starters? peyton twisted his ankle a bit on a play so that might be in the back of his mind.
I have edge in fantasy football, and my opponent has manning and harrison. I have cadillac and julius jones on the bench and his team IS manning and harrison so im kinda hoping they bench their players.
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I would say they will play, all \'cept for the game with Arizona. Then again, a good idea may to be play them the first half and secure the wins.
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craazy ending for a perfect day for the broncos.
So they gave up a lot of yards to boller..win counts just as much as if they gave up 10 yards to him.
KC\'s snapper chokes and messes up a game tieing field goal after the cowboys got a holding call to give them the TD and barely any time left. San Diego blows it, almost comes back, then fumbles. w00t.
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That loss by San Diego totally ruins any momentum they had going into Indianapolis... 14-0 here they come...
On a brighter note the Pats ripped the Bills to pieces today. So good seing them manhandle a team for once.
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It was the Bills tho\'....I\'m not sure if it counts or not. Either way, weird day in the NFL.
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i\'m proud of my boys,..we fought long and hard for that win,...and i thought the chiefs were gonna blow us away!...sheeit we scalped the chiefs and we\'re gonna do the same thing to their cousins next week....the redskins..:fro:...say what you want about my boys but ANY team that plays them, i guarantee it won\'t be a walk in tha park....
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Bettis, what a machine. He\'s old and rusted up but give him 4 steps to move that massive belly of his and he\'ll move the defensive pile.
Heard that on Monday mornings, he can\'t even get out of bed coz his knees are locked up. Takes a half hour of slowly bending his knees enough to stand up and limp to the whirlpool. Another hour to get the legs working with the help of the warm water. Then a several minutes on the exercise bike for more flexibility. Then he can walk normal. That\'s just Mondays. Then there\'s practice the next few days til gameday.
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yeah, i\'m afraid this is the last year for bussy
:(
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He met Urlacher at the 3, a Pro-Bowler, and carried him into the end zone. Bad knees and all. Now I understand the reasoning behind his moniker, The Bus: carrying people around like a bus (I incorrectly thought it was coz of his size).
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Ouch that sounds brutal
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If the Cowgirls can squeeze one out against the Chiefs I\'m hoping the G-Men will be able to slow the LJ/Beast down for one game like they did to Alexander.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
If the Cowgirls can squeeze one out against the Chiefs I\'m hoping the G-Men will be able to slow the LJ/Beast down for one game like they did to Alexander.
don\'t count on it....the chiefs are pissed at the scalping we gave them..so the :gfight:-men are gonna get that ass whooped....LJ is gonna go on the warpath when they meet...:fro:
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Originally posted by clips
don\'t count on it....the chiefs are pissed at the scalping we gave them..so the :gfight:-men are gonna get that ass whooped....LJ is gonna go on the warpath when they meet...:fro:
yea..those cowboys STUFFED LJ :rolleyes: . I felt violated having to root for the cowboys but..go broncos.
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I felt like a cheap bitch hoping the Chiefs would lose so the Steelers could get a better chance in the playoff wild card spot.
Note - I wanted the Chiefs to lose, not the Cowgirls to win. I hope they lose to the Redskins this weekend.
Kill the Teal. Dallas Cryboys. Whatever. Please lose.
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Even if the Giants lose to the Chiefs and the Cowboys win, the Giants are still the division leaders. In fact, all we have to do is beat the slumping Skins and the awful Raiders, and we win the division regardless of anything else.
The truth hurts, doesn\'t it? :p
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It\'s time\'s like these that I\'m happy to be an Eagle\'s fan.
I know some Dolphins fans that are ECSTATIC that their team is 6-7...we\'re one game worse than that in Philly, and it\'s like the apocalypse. It\'s nice having high standards. Hey...all we need is a LB, DT, and WR and we\'re ready for another superbowl run.
AJ Hawk, anyone?
As for the Giants, they will win the division, but I can\'t see them going far in the playoffs. For a second year QB, Eli\'s got some skills, but people are relying too much on his name. He\'s horribly innaccurate and while he\'s shown the ability to lead his team in the fourth quarter, he\'s also shown the ability to make some crucial mistakes in the fourth quarter.
Broncos vs. Seahawks in the Superbowl.
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I will cry if my boy AJ Hawk ends up in Philly.
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Originally posted by IareEthan
It\'s time\'s like these that I\'m happy to be an Eagle\'s fan.
I know some Dolphins fans that are ECSTATIC that their team is 6-7...we\'re one game worse than that in Philly, and it\'s like the apocalypse. It\'s nice having high standards. Hey...all we need is a LB, DT, and WR and we\'re ready for another superbowl run.
AJ Hawk, anyone?
As for the Giants, they will win the division, but I can\'t see them going far in the playoffs. For a second year QB, Eli\'s got some skills, but people are relying too much on his name. He\'s horribly innaccurate and while he\'s shown the ability to lead his team in the fourth quarter, he\'s also shown the ability to make some crucial mistakes in the fourth quarter.
Broncos vs. Seahawks in the Superbowl.
HUH?
Broncos?
HAHA!
Anyone worried about a last second come back by the Patriots? ... I am. I would hate to see them knock the Colts out in the playoffs, yet AGAIN.
Then again, with LIL Ronnie, we can\'t lose!
http://www.crowdpleezers.com/LilRonnie.htm
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Kinda hard to stop the Colts the way they did in the past without a secondary.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I will cry if my boy AJ Hawk ends up in Philly.
Because he\'ll be spending a lot of time in the G-Men\'s backfield?:)
EVERYONE is picking the Colts to go to the superbowl...and understandably so. I just think that, if the broncos play their A game (IF) they could beat the Colts.
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I think Indy will win... and I think they will go for 16-0 (I hope they do, I have Manning as my fantasy QB), but to go 19-0, 19 games without a hiccup sounds a bit tough.
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AJ Hawk is the fucking man!!! Go Buckeyes!
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Originally posted by IareEthan
Because he\'ll be spending a lot of time in the G-Men\'s backfield?:)
Exactly, cause he\'s a fucking beast.
And he\'s too good for the Eagles anyway.
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Chiefs > Giants
Pats> Bucs
Broncos > Bills
I\'ll be 3 for 3 at the end of today.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2263463
Peterson, Henderson fined for actions vs. Colts
Here\'s a quote..
"It was like, \'Indianapolis comes to town, now all the fines come out.\' I hate all these fines and how they\'re changing the league around." Peterson said. "You can\'t even play the game the way you want to play it now."
Give me a break. Anyone who saw that game knows that some of the stuff being done was out of hand. I don\'t care WHO you are playing, there is no need to grab a helmet and shove it in the ground over and over again.
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Somebody check that guy for roid rage lol. What a freaking sore loser!!!
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w00t..chiefs lost, broncos won. I missed 2/3rds of the broncos game because of my final, so i missed rod smith/jake plummer kicking ass (sucks because theyre both on my bench in fantasy football)..thought it was going to snow in buffalo. hurray for snow ignorance from SoCal.
My opponent has payton and harrison so..not sure who to root for in the chargers game. colts just dont seem like a 16-0, remember for generations kind of a team.
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Giants won basically secured a playoff spot, yippie. And Viper have you watched many Colts games?
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How can you say the Colts don\'t seem to be a 16 - 0 team? They have put every team they faced away with ease. They have showed they can play smash mouth football and eat the clock up, they have showed they can score in eight seconds. The defense has also proven they can create the turnovers and hold the other teams from making big plays.
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I keep hearing the peeps on ESPN talk about how SD is going to eat up the clock and keep Manning and the Colts off the field on offense, but last I recall the Colts can do the same thing with Edge and have proved that all year, and proving that they can stop people on offense now with there defense, with Freeney in Brees\' face all day it should make for an interesting game.
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The Chargers are the like the Saints. Everybody wants them to win, but when it comes game time, they will dissapoint. Nothing changes today. If any team stands a chance to beat the Colts, it will be the Seahawks.
Chargers 10 - 0 right now.
Son\'a\'bitch!
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All good things must come to an end.
13 - 1.
:(
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Peyton Manning blew it...again
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Again?
I don\'t think anyone wants to hear from you, you are the guy who takes up for Kurt Warner.
Peyton didn\'t blow this one.. The whole team blew this one.. Not one player. Everyone on the team. Balls was being dropped. Tackles was being missed
I didn\'t figure they would go 16 - 0. I just figured it would be the Seahawks that would deliver the final blow to the Colts.. Oh well. This leaves Dungy in a situation, after all the hits on Manning and the injuries that the defense substained, does he rest them and play it safe? I would think you almost have to...
Any given Sunday..Or saturday...Patriots put Tampa away with ease and the Chargers managed to kill the Colts.
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Peyton Manning has a very long history of playing bad WHEN IT MATTERS.
Thats why he hasn\'t been to the AFC championship game yet
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Originally posted by clowd
Peyton Manning has a very long history of playing bad WHEN IT MATTERS.
Thats why he hasn\'t been to the AFC championship game yet
Uh?
This game didn\'t matter. At the most, you get 14 - 0.
P.S - Kurt Warner has a habit of playing bad no matter what..Oh and it\'s Brett Farve you are thinkin\' of, he is the one who blows it almost always at the last mintue.
Manning did blow it today, but one of the main things is the offensive line. They played like shit.
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Originally posted by clowd
Peyton Manning blew it...again
Name a better QB this year.
Then I\'ll laugh.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Name a better QB this year.
Then I\'ll laugh.
...Kurt Warner?
:d
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Originally posted by clowd
Peyton Manning has a very long history of playing bad WHEN IT MATTERS.
Thats why he hasn\'t been to the AFC championship game yet
watch the game, then talk. Chargers were having a great day getting to manning. Shawn marriman is going to be a great LB..the problem is hes from san diego so he wont get recognition for a while.
Im a bronco fan, but they won already so fantasy points were #1 on my list today..and it was a good day.
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Originally posted by clowd
Thats why he hasn\'t been to the AFC championship game yet
What about 2003
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He has short term memory.
And by Clowds logic, the previous 13 games didn\'t matter to Manning and the Colts, but this one did ? Yes, it would of been nice to be 14 - 0, but in reality, this game didn\'t matter. They have already secured homefield advantage in each playoff game, they have the by week.
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This is probably the best thing for the Colts. Now instead of keeping their starters in there to go for 16 they can rest them up for the playoffs. Peyton took a beating today and if I was a Colts fan I wouldn\'t want to see two more weeks of that just to go undefeated.
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Nor do I.
I say play them first half, keep them in shape, let \'em rest.
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WHERE\'S CLIPS?
I wanna laugh at the Cowgirls losing it big.:D
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Name a better QB this year.
Then I\'ll laugh.
One could make arguments for Carson Palmer and Mike McMahon.
Or, at the very least, Carson Palmer:(
I really think anyone could win the NFC. The Seahawks keep finding ways to win, which is all that matters. But they struggled against some pretty crappy teams this year.
The playoffs should be interesting.
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like I\'ve said all the time (not here) the key to the Colts offense is that superb offensive line. Today it didnt give Manning all day like it usually does and he failed. If you can\'t overcome a mere 4 sacks you aren\'t very good. The Chargers played a B game at MOST. And it wasn\'t like the pass rushers had a straight shot at him. He had a good 3-4 seconds to get a pass off on the sacks I saw. He isn\'t use to that kind of pressure.
but If Peyton Manning wins the Super Bowl or plays well in a playoff loss I\'ll get off his back. He should win the superbowl considering he has by far the most talented team
BTW Kurt Warner was 10-10 with a TD today. Hows that for playing bad no matter what?
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HUH? How is the key the offensive line? He calls the plays. He makes the throws. He calls the audiles. Right- it is all theoffensive line.
Is he use to pressure? No, but you give no credit to him running this offense. You\'re the only one .
BTW - Arizona lost..To the Texan\'s...Pathetic.
In reference to Carson Palmer - he is good, but he isn\'t *that* good. I want to see if the Bengals can duplicate this season before I jump on the wagon.
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I really hope that they don\'t, being in cincy and seeing all the bandwagon fans just pisses me off. If you\'re going to be a fan, be a fan when they suck too.
(seen about 500 too many palmer jerseys)
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Which is a damn shame, because Kitna is a QB who could be great. I think it is sad to see him on a bench wasting his career away. Will he ever match Palmer? No. Could he still be a strong starter for another team? Most certainly...
WHO DEY, DEY DA BENGALS...
Sorry if I don\'t sing the anthem with them, I will wait until I see this happen more than one year. If they can make the playoff run this year and then repeat next year, I think it\'ll be safe to say that the Bengals time has come.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
HUH? How is the key the offensive line? He calls the plays. He makes the throws. He calls the audiles. Right- it is all theoffensive line.
Is he use to pressure? No, but you give no credit to him running this offense. You\'re the only one .
BTW - Arizona lost..To the Texan\'s...Pathetic.
In reference to Carson Palmer - he is good, but he isn\'t *that* good. I want to see if the Bengals can duplicate this season before I jump on the wagon.
I give him credit for being the good quarterback he is, but before I say he\'s the best QB in the league he\'s going to have to win something. An AFC title or Superbowl. Good QBs do more then just put up stats. They win games. Look at Warner when he was at St. Louis. Look at Tom Brady for the last few years. Look at Matt Leinart at USC. These QBs may not be the most accurate or have the strongest arms or put up the best stats but they led their teams to championships. The only thing Peyton Manning has ever won is the AFC South
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you mean like.......JOHN ELWAY!!!
*slowly backs out of thread*
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Originally posted by clowd
I give him credit for being the good quarterback he is, but before I say he\'s the best QB in the league he\'s going to have to win something. An AFC title or Superbowl. Good QBs do more then just put up stats. They win games. Look at Warner when he was at St. Louis. Look at Tom Brady for the last few years. Look at Matt Leinart at USC. These QBs may not be the most accurate or have the strongest arms or put up the best stats but they led their teams to championships. The only thing Peyton Manning has ever won is the AFC South
the fact u threw a college qb in there destroys any point u ever try and make. We get it, u dont think a player is good until they win something..tired arguement..doesnt take away the fact he has the record for most TD\'s in a season, almost went 16-0, and hes not even 30 yet.
and he does it year after year. warner was only "THE BEST QB EVER!!!" for 3 years..know what? lets look at the stats..
Payton:
PASSING
Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate
1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 575 326 56.7 3739 6.50 78 26 28 22/109 42 8 71.2
1999 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 533 331 62.1 4135 7.76 80 26 15 14/116 56 11 90.7
2000 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 571 357 62.5 4413 7.73 78 33 15 20/131 51 8 94.7
2001 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 547 343 62.7 4131 7.55 86 26 23 29/232 55 11 84.1
2002 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 591 392 66.3 4200 7.11 69 27 19 23/145 51 11 88.8
2003 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 566 379 67.0 4267 7.54 79 29 10 18/107 45 9 99.0
2004 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 497 336 67.6 4557 9.17 80 49 10 13/101 68 13 121.1
2005 Indianapolis Colts 13 13 394 269 68.3 3290 8.35 80 27 8 12/59 39 6 108.2
TOTAL 125 125 4274 2733 63.9 32732 7.66 86 243 128 151/1000 407 77 93.8
WARNER:
PASSING
Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate
1998 St. Louis Rams 1 0 11 4 36.4 39 3.55 21 0 0 0/0 1 0 47.2
1999 St. Louis Rams 16 16 499 325 65.1 4353 8.72 75 41 13 29/201 60 16 109.2
2000 St. Louis Rams 11 11 347 235 67.7 3429 9.88 85 21 18 20/115 49 14 98.3
2001 St. Louis Rams 16 16 546 375 68.7 4830 8.85 65 36 22 38/233 81 11 101.4
2002 St. Louis Rams 7 6 220 144 65.5 1431 6.50 43 3 11 21/130 15 1 67.4
2003 St. Louis Rams 2 1 65 38 58.5 365 5.62 37 1 1 6/38 3 0 72.9
2004 New York Giants 10 9 277 174 62.8 2054 7.42 62 6 4 39/196 24 6 86.5
2005 Arizona Cardinals 9 9 365 232 63.6 2598 7.12 63 10 9 21/146 35 4 83.6
TOTAL 72 68 2330 1527 65.5 19099 8.20 85 118 78 174/1059 268 52 93.8
theres more than a good qb that goes into winning a superbowl.
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Cowgirls got they asses bai-eet! :laughing:
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As someone who watched Warner flounder around here for those games we gave him, PLEASE don\'t tell me he\'s the one who wins big games. Hell, the key to his teams was the O-Lines. Peyton is the key to the Colts team.
As for Palmer, the only QB I could see people arguing is better this year, he still has a lower QB rating and fewer wins. And he is less a part of what his team does than Peyton is for the Colts. No player is more important to their team than Manning.
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I was at the Bears game last night with Jar O Pickles.
We froze our balls off, but had a great time.
I was sporting my Rex Grossman jersey. When they benched Orton and brought Rex in the whole stadium just went nuts, it was awesome.
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Did you have good seats?
I didn\'t watch any of the game, slept the rest of this cold off.
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I still remember tie Ikcy Woods dance. Looked like a monkey doing the vaudeville shuffle.
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good lord..wtf happened to my boys?...i knew they were doomed to lose from that first interception...washington played extremely well while my boys played like s**t...washington was quicker on offense and defense...and there was zero protection for bledsoe..and what was up with all those false starts? :confused:...:mad:...y\'know i can roll with the punches when dallas loses, only because i know they played hard with the squad they have, but this game here?..a game they NEEDED to win and they play like THAT?...some heads would have to roll after that...
and what is up with our passing game? f**k that keyshawn may have lost a step since the jets but he and glenn should be able to get open...agh! and now we\'re behind washington!...:mad:...and the the panthers next week?...chop up another L for us!...i cannot believe they would lose so bad like that....
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Did you have good seats?
I didn\'t watch any of the game, slept the rest of this cold off.
Yeah, in one of the end zones but high up enough to see everything.
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in fantasy football news.. i\'m going for my 2nd championship in my 3 years playing with you guys.
What\'s the grand prize again?
;)
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Too bad you got your azz handed to you in our league, but I can\'t speak I didn\'t make the playoffs, lol Cowboys suck live with it clips.
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All I know is, my girls and I will be home watchin\' the Colts lose another game most likely...
:mad:
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crazy news about Dungy\'s son found dead. Not that there is ever a good time for that to happen, but just a few days before christmas. :(
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I would say that this will kill any superbowl run for the Colts. I know it\'s stupid to talk about something so trivial in the mist of this, but it\'s just being honest.
Sad to hear about that tho\'. Can\'t imagine my children dying before me.
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The Bears are going to the SB...
You heard it here.
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Originally posted by Luke
The Bears are going to the SB...
You heard it here.
that would have a bit more impact/be bold if u said this a while ago. you probably did but u werent serious..seeing as ur a bears fan and probably have said this every year of your existence.
The panthers are argueably the best in the NFC, and the bears beat them. The seahawks have played some crappy teams, so im not totally convinced by them (especially in the playoffs). Now the bears D has a passing game to go along with their good running game, and theyll be damn good. I think the panthers will go the the superbowl, but i wont be mindblown if the bears do.
Week 3 i thought they were up there with the cardinals/dolphins/browns..Lovie Smith definitly should get coach of the year.
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I think if Eli can get his head out of his ass and find Shockey/Burress and hand the ball off to the Barbershop the Giants have just as good of a chance as any of the playoff teams we\'re going to see on the NFC side.
But this is the Colt\'s year, the Superbowl is going to be in a dome and on turf which will work out perfectly for them, Dungy\'s son passing away will only further motivate them.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
that would have a bit more impact/be bold if u said this a while ago. you probably did but u werent serious..seeing as ur a bears fan and probably have said this every year of your existence.
Not at all. I\'m only saying this now because they finally gave up on Kyle Orton and put Grossman in.
What I did say was that if the Bears had even a DECENT qb they had a serious shot at the SB... It appears now with Grossman they do.
And I\'m not stupid, I don\'t pick my favorite team to win it all every year. The Bears have been terrible for the past 10 years pretty much. My official prediction for them this year was 7-9.
Give me a little credit huh?
Your right about coach of the year too, It\'s gotta be Lovie.
Especially after making that change at QB after Orton "won" 7 games in a row.
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Wrong it will go to Dungy. What he\'s done with that defense is remarkable, and he\'ll be the sentimental fav now too
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Originally posted by mjps21983
I think if Eli can get his head out of his ass and find Shockey/Burress and hand the ball off to the Barbershop the Giants have just as good of a chance as any of the playoff teams we\'re going to see on the NFC side.
Big if. Manning has all the talent in the world, but he just doesn\'t have the experience yet. He makes a lot of mistakes still, not just with the interceptions, but with his footwork. He too often doesn\'t set his feet before throwing, which ends up in inaccurate passes. He misses wide open WR\'s way too often.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
Wrong it will go to Dungy. What he\'s done with that defense is remarkable, and he\'ll be the sentimental fav now too
I hate the fact that his son commiting suicide has anything to do with him winning coach of the year.
He\'s a really good coach, but he took an awesome team, and did well. Lovie took a team everyone predicted to go like 3-13 and has a chance to take them to the super bowl.
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Just for Clips...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2270808
Hey, Hey, Hey...Goodbye..
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Yea, I know I know Luke, I think it should be Lovie too but sometimes the writers sway with the people. Lovie deserves it more than anyone, I\'m surprised the Giants coach isn\'t getting more recogntion after they went into a downward spiral last year.
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Good job on blowin\' another game, Colts..
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BRONCOS!!!
"broncos always lose in the wildcard"..well..they dont have to play it now..1/2 of my plan is done, now the other half is for the colts to get rusty,heh.
kind of anxious to see van pelt run the offense next week. His one snap of the year was a long ass qb sneak in the chiefs game. And seeing dayne as the feature back will be interesting..cept i think the chargers run D will bounce back after getting run all over by LJ.
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"broncos always lose in the wildcard"..well..they dont have to play it now..1/2 of my plan is done, now the other half is for the colts to get rusty,heh.
So far, that is workin\' also.
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so much fucking bullshit..
my FRIEND, whose an admin in my fantasy football league, did so much shady shit. He made a trade with his roomate that gave him joey galloway and hines ward FOR ben watson and mike jones. So he got a lot of points for them this week, THEN to put it over the top, in the middle of the patriots game where he had givens started, he adminly took him out and put donald driver in so he got extra points to put him over the top and won.
so gay
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Fire him, damnit!
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Originally posted by mjps21983
Wrong it will go to Dungy. What he\'s done with that defense is remarkable, and he\'ll be the sentimental fav now too
Why? Because he raised a highly depressed kid who tried to kill himself once before with pills and now succeeded by hanging himself?
Nevermind. You don\'t have to be a good father to be a good coach.
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From all accounts I\'ve heard is that he was both a good father and a good coach, not everybody is all right in the head and you can\'t blame Dungy totally for that.
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true that.
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From what I\'m hearing the GF left the apartment at "1am" for a "walk" wtf, who goes walking at 1am in the morning and when she returned at "130am" he wasn\'t breathing... So who knows I think they got in to a fight and he killed himself over the girl, just my opinion though
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Originally posted by Luke
true that.
DOUBLE TRUE
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I love you.
I thought only white people liked The Boondocks?
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Originally posted by mjps21983
From all accounts I\'ve heard is that he was both a good father and a good coach, not everybody is all right in the head and you can\'t blame Dungy totally for that.
He is a great guy. But something was obviously F\'d up. You don\'t just hang yourself for no reason.
Unless you are one of those nutcases who gets high that way.
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Originally posted by videoholic
He is a great guy. But something was obviously F\'d up. You don\'t just hang yourself for no reason.
Unless you are one of those nutcases who gets high that way.
its more complex than "daddy didnt hug me." Chemical imbalances cause depression. And if mike\'s info is right than i wouldnt be surprised if thats what happened.
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go broncos!!!
go lions!!!
that is all
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
its more complex than "daddy didnt hug me." Chemical imbalances cause depression. And if mike\'s info is right than i wouldnt be surprised if thats what happened.
Vid don\'t be so narrow minded. It\'s obvious that something was wrong but he was 18 and on his own like a lot of people are, it is not necessarily Daddy\'s fault. If your son killed himself I guess you\'d have to blame yourself right and so would everyone else, all the blame would be on you and your wife, because you couldn\'t fix what was wrong.
Suicides happen all the time, and the only way they get noted is one of two ways by the media if it\'s someone famous/related to someone famous or its a suicide bomber.
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It isn\'t always the parents fault. There are chemical imbalances and teenagers suffer more than most.
I wouldn\'t be surprised if it was a girl or drug problems.
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Have they even said he hung himself yet in the press? Only reason I know is because my mom works in the hospital he was admitted to.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
Vid don\'t be so narrow minded. It\'s obvious that something was wrong but he was 18 and on his own like a lot of people are, it is not necessarily Daddy\'s fault. If your son killed himself I guess you\'d have to blame yourself right and so would everyone else, all the blame would be on you and your wife, because you couldn\'t fix what was wrong.
Suicides happen all the time, and the only way they get noted is one of two ways by the media if it\'s someone famous/related to someone famous or its a suicide bomber.
I never said his daddy did something wrong. I just think it\'s funny that he is heralded as father of the year.
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Father of the year?
NO.
That\'s me, damnit.
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I get to be again next year. oye...
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oh, cool it seemed otherwise.
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http://www.nflshop.com/nfl/index.jsp?pageId=searchResultPage&firstTime=yes&SearchTerm=giants+nfc+east+champs
jumping the gun perhaps?
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"This product will not be available to ship until the Middle of January. The Reebok \'05 Division Champs Locker Room Tee is made of 100% cotton. Screenprinted graphics. Imported."
http://www.nflshop.com/nfl/index.jsp?pageId=searchResultPage&firstTime=yes&SearchTerm=bucs+nfc+east+champs
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Originally posted by JBean
http://www.nflshop.com/nfl/index.jsp?pageId=searchResultPage&firstTime=yes&SearchTerm=giants+nfc+east+champs
jumping the gun perhaps?
Nope, the Giants are playing the Raider\'s this weekend, should be a pretty easy match going into the playoffs.
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kinda late with this, been extremely busy lately..but oh well...i thought the panthers were gonna kill us..but low and behold, my boys played another hard fought game...:fro:...and LIC...if parcells does consider retirement, i honestly couldn\'t blame him,..watchin\' dallas play every week gives ME ulcers...:p...hmmm and what id goin on with tha colts?
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Originally posted by clips
kinda late with this, been extremely busy lately..but oh well...i thought the panthers were gonna kill us..but low and behold, my boys played another hard fought game...:fro:...and LIC...if parcells does consider retirement, i honestly couldn\'t blame him,..watchin\' dallas play every week gives ME ulcers...:p...hmmm and what id goin on with tha colts?
lol. 1) Steve smith got ejected 2) The colts took most of the starters out in the first quarter..edge stayed a little longer.
After the panthers loss, and the seahawks yet to prove to me that they can beat someone besides the niners, colts backups, rams, and cardinals..the bears are on top of the NFC.
Dungy came back already. Pretty fast.
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I can\'t count the questionable calls that was made in the Dallas / Carolina . And it was still a close game.
Colts set the starters out the second half. First half was still missing key players.
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I seriously can\'t believe I\'m talking about the Bears having a shot at the super bowl, and it\'s not a joke.
I\'m so frickin\' excited for the playoffs.
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Bears...Superbowl.
HA!
;)
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If they lose they\'re first playoff game i might cry, for reals.
But they wont
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Bears have a serious shot, you have every right to get excited Luke. They remind me of the 2000 Ravens, except the Bears offense is better than the Ravens was (hard to believe I know)
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The thing about bears though is that they are vicious creatures. Especially grizzly bears... or wait, maybe it\'s black bears... damn it! I can\'t recall for the life of me which one is the dangerous ones. Now that I think of it it may actually be the brown bears... damn, that seemed kinda random, but it kind of applies. Cause if the chicago bears are brown bears then they are in good shape for the superbowl.
They won\'t beat the Patriots though.
;)
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
The thing about bears though is that they are vicious creatures. Especially grizzly bears... or wait, maybe it\'s black bears... damn it! I can\'t recall for the life of me which one is the dangerous ones. Now that I think of it it may actually be the brown bears... damn, that seemed kinda random, but it kind of applies. Cause if the chicago bears are brown bears then they are in good shape for the superbowl.
Do you listen to yourself when you talk?
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I don\'t think people who are Boston/New England fans are required to think very much, obviously The Hurricane show\'s this each and every time he posts. The Patriots will not make the Super Bowl, and if they do they\'ll be getting their asses waxed by the Seahawks. Perfect Super Bowl match up would be the Colts and the Bears, defense versus offense.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
Do you listen to yourself when you talk?
I drift in and out.
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SOmeone call 911. This dude is a bit loco.
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He\'s got a picture of Teddy Bruschi taking a dump for his avatar. Cut him some slack.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
I don\'t think people who are Boston/New England fans are required to think very much, obviously The Hurricane show\'s this each and every time he posts.
:fu:
Originally posted by mjps21983
The Patriots will not make the Super Bowl, and if they do they\'ll be getting their asses waxed by the Seahawks. Perfect Super Bowl match up would be the Colts and the Bears, defense versus offense.
The top 4-5 seeds in the AFC are better than the entire field in the NFC. Barring a HUGE upset there is really no doubt in my mind that the Lombardi trophy will be staying in the AFC.
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Sorry my man but the Patriots are not better than even the Steelers and they are a 5th seed because they didn\'t win their division. The Seahawks and the Bears are better than the Patriots IMO. Shit I think the Dolphins have a really good shot at beating the Dolphins this weekend
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If the Dolphins beat the Dolphins, that I\'ll be damned.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
Sorry my man but the Patriots are not better than even the Steelers and they are a 5th seed because they didn\'t win their division. The Seahawks and the Bears are better than the Patriots IMO. Shit I think the Dolphins have a really good shot at beating the Dolphins this weekend
Who is comparing the Steelers to the Patriots?! Fact of the matter is that everyone in the AFC playoff field is better than everyone in the NFC playoff field. The Bears and Seahawks schedules were cupcake give the same schedule to any AFC playoff team and they are #1 seeds. Hell I was screaming all season about the Colts soft schedule and the Seahawks/Bear schedules were even softer.
The Dolphins may beat the Pats this weekend but it has nothing to do with them being better than the Pats. A lot of starters are going to play limited time. If the Cardinals beat the Colts this week does that mean they are the better team?
GTFOOH
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AFC owns the NFC..if the patriots get to the superbowl, they will win. hell, look at their record..theyre like 7-4 to afc teams (they have 6 games to their own crappy division) and almost undefeated against nfc teams.
BUT, the patriots can not beat the steelers, colts, broncos, and other teams that didnt make the playoffs like the chiefs. I could see them scoring just enough to beat the bears, who are the best. fuck the seahawks and their 13-2 record..theyre division is the worst in the nfl.
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Colt\'s can\'t help who\'s in their division and neither can the Seahawks, but after looking at the Seahawks schedule hell the Giant\'s would have been 13-2 at this point in the season too.
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The Giants would have found a way to blow more than just 2 games on that schedule :p
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True, haha, oh by the way did I just call that the Patriots were going to lose to the Dolphins. Williams quitely has comeback to the Williams productivity that we\'ve known.
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alex smith sucks. glad im not a niner fan or id be pretty pissed off for wasting a number 1 pick.
Now what are they going to do..draft reggie bush after losing to the texans? lot of good that will do with a bad young qb, d-line, cornerbacks, o-line..the texans or the niners need to trade their first pick so they can help their team in the multiple areas that they need help in.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
True, haha, oh by the way did I just call that the Patriots were going to lose to the Dolphins. Williams quitely has comeback to the Williams productivity that we\'ve known.
Oh mighty, Kreskin, how did you predict that a team of starters would beat a team of second/third stringers...(barely)? From where do your divine powers come from?
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Sometimes my ass, but this time I just had a hunch, go Flutie kicking old school today the highlight of any highlights for the Patriots today.
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end of season sucks. Teams not even putting efforts into winning.
On a note..
Mice Ticed - Fired
Vermil - Retired
Norv Turner - Likely to be fired.
Mike Martz - Cleared to coach again, but won\'t coach the Rams.
Mike Sherman - Future uncertain, but will most likely be let go after this season.
Dom Capers - Fired.
========Players========
Brett Farve - Most likely to retire.
Doug Flutie - Most likely to retire
Deon \'Neon\' Sanders - Most likely to retire
Now a look at next week.
Saturday, January 7
Washington Redskins at Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 4:30 ET, ABC
Jacksonville Jaguars at New England Patriots, 8 ET, ABC
Sunday, January 8
Carolina Panthers at New York Giants, 1 ET, FOX
Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals, 4:30 ET, CBS
I can see why New England blew their game today. It only made sense to go against the Jaguars, instead of taking on the Steelers right out of the door.
I wouldn\'t be surprised to see the Redskins pull out a victory next week.
Panters should be able to handle the Giants.
Steelers and Bengals. Third time meeting for these teams. The Bengals won\'t be able to pull it off this time tho\'. Big Ben is feeling better and the Bengals are self-destructing with their success. With a loss to the Bills, a team that wasn\'t even a contender and then a blow out by KC, I seriously don\'t think they will be able to recover. The team is still young and can\'t handle the success. Speakin\' of which, I can\'t believe the Bengals signed Palmer \'till 2014.
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meh..i\'m a little late with this...anyway i just can\'t understand how dallas can lose to a sorry ass team like the rams...:rolleyes:..didn\'t ARIZONA beat them a couple weeks ago?...damn...they lose games they should win and win games they should lose..:mad:..whatever..they did better than i expected tho...they still have alot of work to do in the offseason...only team from the nfc i see havin a chance at this point is either the panthers or seattle....the gmen can sneak in there too tho...we\'ll see...
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Which Panthers team will show up next week has everybody wondering, I\'m thinking the Giants defense will prevent the run and get to Delhomme.
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Dallas = Teh Suck.
:D
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Sporting a new avy for the playoff run!
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It all begins against the Jags!
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Originally posted by Luke
Sporting a new avy for the playoff run!
You won\'t be sportin\' it for long, will ya\'?
:D
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At least untill next weekend.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Dallas = Teh Suck.
:D
sadly...yes :(...i don\'t know when my boys will get back to the era of the early 90\'s...gotta wait and see what will happen next year...
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Doug Flutie is like 5 feet tall.
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Hook \'em Horns!
woops... wrong thread
:D
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Originally posted by JBean
Hook \'em Horns!
woops... wrong thread
:D
HELL YEAH
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Oh, and something worth noting for the weekend. I will be rooting for the Steelers this weekend, my once most hated team now has my support for two weekends in a row. :)
Do the math, you\'ll figure out why.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Oh, and something worth noting for the weekend. I will be rooting for the Steelers this weekend, my once most hated team now has my support for two weekends in a row. :)
Do the math, you\'ll figure out why.
You want the Pats to play @ Denver(if they beat Jax) next week?
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;)
On top of that, if the Steelers beat Indy and the Patriots beat Denver, it will be a home championship game.
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Laugh of the day - Steelers beat Indy.
HAHA.
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I can dream...
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At least you don\'t have to dream Saturday, barring some huge screw up, the Pats should dispose of the Jags with ease.
The Jags is the team, that you see in the playoffs and you can\'t understand how they got there, espically when other teams, like KC appear to have done so much better. Oh well tho\', it all comes down to games won and somehow, the Jags won enough.
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Well considering KC had SD and Denver in their division plus a pretty tough schedule, the Jags only had the Colts, the Texans and the Titans were gimme games.
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Tampa is going to kill the skins tommorow! Carnell=23 car 147 yds 2 TD Simms=17-23 for 253 yds 1 td. Ronde Barber 1 int 1 td.
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Sheesh, couldnt you round up or something?
147 yards EXACTLY!?
I\'ll be impressed.
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Yes, because we all know that Tampa\'s offense, which isn\'t GREAT to begin with, is gonna be lights out against one of the leagues better defenses.
Skins by 10.
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Screw you.
Skins by 14!
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Tampa by 17..
portis will be shut down, moss will be shut down..cadillac will score once er twice, simms will score twice.
before you jump on me, shawn springs is hurt and the secondary is a little banged up.
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Shawn Springs, OSU gangster
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did i say tampa by 17? i meant washington by a billion
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
did i say tampa by 17? i meant washington by a billion
You will listen to me the next time.
;)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
You will listen to me the next time.
;)
lol..seems whoever i think is going to win completely loses momentum..
broncos are going to lose next week.
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Most likely, yes.
Tampa was destined to lose. Just like the Jags.
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Sweet, Pats move one step closer to a threepeat. Next up, @Denver or @Indianapolis. Preferably Denver.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
Tampa by 17..
portis will be shut down, moss will be shut down..cadillac will score once er twice, simms will score twice.
before you jump on me, shawn springs is hurt and the secondary is a little banged up.
what happened to Cadillac, he didn\'t get ANYWHERE! ;)
we got about 2 injuries tho :\\ and our offense was hella sloppy
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Excellent... a rematch in Denver. We were shorthanded in the last meeting, but the Patriots are battle tested and as healthy as can be now. I think they can go into Denver and win.
On the other side, I think it\'s pretty simple. Pittsburgh\'s win was nice, but they didn\'t have to play against Palmer. I will be rooting for Pittsburgh (for the home playoff game), but in the end I think the Colts win.
So then, wouldn\'t it be fitting, a Colts/Patriots AFC championship game. I know Colts fans would love to beat the Patriots, and Patriots fans likewise. Plus if the Patriots beat the Colts again, I get to see LIC\'s head explode.
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So then, wouldn\'t it be fitting, a Colts/Patriots NFC championship game. I know Colts fans would love to beat the Patriots, and Patriots fans likewise. Plus if the Patriots beat the Colts again, I get to see LIC\'s head explode.
Won\'t see that. I fully expect it and couldn\'t care less at this point.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Won\'t see that. I fully expect it and couldn\'t care less at this point.
yes you do... :D
You fully expect the patriots to beat the broncos, beat the colts, and win the superbowl? Im sick to my stomach seeing them in the playoffs as is let alone winning the superbowl again.
Peronally, i know theyve won 3 of the last 4, and brady is a feak in the playoffs, and bellichek is the best coach iv ever seen (i wasnt really around with ditka, parcells in his prime, etc)..but they dont deserve it this year. Even if they win, and somehow beat the broncos and colts they dont deserve it. And this is the first time in their 4 drives that iv felt like they dont deserve it.
They beat all the nfc teams..nice job, so did everyone else..they beat everyone in their division except the dolphins, so did everyone else..they lost to the broncos, chargers, chiefs, and colts and then got to play the worst team in the playoffs (in both divisions). And dont give me the whole injury thing, harrison was THE injury that hurt them the most and the whole time u were saying bruschi and dillon are the reasons theyre a winning team.
Ill be really pissed off if they win..colts and broncos are the only teams on my list that deserve to win it all. If the broncos lose to the colts ill say to myself "god dammit..colts won..at least its not the patriots"..then itll be superbowl week and ill forget the broncos were in the picture.
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A 12-4 Team is worst in the playoffs?
How bout the entire NFC with the exception of Seattle. Everyone in the AFC deserved to be in the playoffs. The last loss vs. the Dolphins doesn\'t count cause they we\'re playing scrubs.
The fact still remains, you play who you play, the Patriots are in the playoffs, and they are a dangerous team. If they win the Superbowl again (however unlikely it is), you can\'t say they don\'t deserve it. If anything else they deserve it more because of all the shitty DB\'s they had to play throughout the season.
Why do you hate the Patriots so much? Have they stolen players from the Broncos? No. Have they handed the Broncos any heartbreaking losses? No. Do they year in and year out stumble against the Patriots? No. So I don\'t see where all this hatred is coming from. The Patriots have a chance to make history this year, that alone should have people rooting for them, just like I did with the Trojans.
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Please dont talk about Seattle like they are a good team. Their 13-3 record is a sham. Look at their schedule. They played 3 good teams all year. Literally. They lost two of those games.
Bears in \'06!
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
a Colts/Patriots NFC championship game.
Uh...
That would be impossible.
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Originally posted by Faithdies
Please dont talk about Seattle like they are a good team. Their 13-3 record is a sham. Look at their schedule. They played 3 good teams all year. Literally. They lost two of those games.
Bears in \'06!
YOU KNOW IT!
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I\'m rootin fer da bears, too lukey. \'cos the doctor sez I got a sausage stuck in my aorta.
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I\'m tired of no one givin\' the Redskins credit. I just watched SportsCenter and they talked about how Washington simply can\'t match up with the 13-3 and Seahawks. Hello? The Seahawks did have one of the best schedules in the NFL. Not tryin\' to take away from them, but don\'t write Washington off.
Originally posted by The Hurricane
A 12-4 Team is worst in the playoffs?
How bout the entire NFC with the exception of Seattle. Everyone in the AFC deserved to be in the playoffs. The last loss vs. the Dolphins doesn\'t count cause they we\'re playing scrubs.
The fact still remains, you play who you play, the Patriots are in the playoffs, and they are a dangerous team. If they win the Superbowl again (however unlikely it is), you can\'t say they don\'t deserve it. If anything else they deserve it more because of all the shitty DB\'s they had to play throughout the season.
Why do you hate the Patriots so much? Have they stolen players from the Broncos? No. Have they handed the Broncos any heartbreaking losses? No. Do they year in and year out stumble against the Patriots? No. So I don\'t see where all this hatred is coming from. The Patriots have a chance to make history this year, that alone should have people rooting for them, just like I did with the Trojans.
They are like the Yankee\'s, people get tired of it. Not to mention, the players just don\'t interest most people, beyond the NE fans. Maybe that is because the players are laid back and don\'t have that superstar persona, but either way, they lack the character that makes people care. It\'s like watchin\' a bunch of robots go out there, do just enough to win and take a trophy home. It gets old....fast....
I have always said, my problem with the Patriots is not the players or the fact I think they suck - no, I know they don\'t suck. It\'s simply they are not exciting. I watch football to be excited and anytime I watch the Patriots play, I either flip the channel or I fall asleep. It\'s the same thing I do when I watch Tampa play. They are both teams that bore me to tears. And if I want to be that bored, I\'ll go watch golf, watch baseball or talk to my fiance.
;)
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Don\'t you dare compare the Patriots to the Yankees. I despise them with a passion. Here\'s a key difference, everyone is on even playing ground in the NFL, the size of your pocket does not dictate success in the NFL. In fact the Patriots are kind of the opposite, they get rid of players every year because of money issues, and yet they seem to retain the talent that was lost.
As far as exciting goes. Yeah, they\'re pretty methodical, they don\'t go crazy. The offense isn\'t explosive, but they\'re smart. A conservative offense does not turnover the ball as much. That\'s not to say I don\'t get any excitement at all from watching them, I get plenty excited, 19 game winning drives in the 4th quater under Tom Brady... that\'s pretty exciting.
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In other news, Mularkey resigns as head coach of the Bills, right after Marv Levy comes back as GM.....
Great...
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broncos vs patriots is probably going to be the best game next week. Outside of that game, LIC hit it right on the head..i get bored as hell watching the patriots. I like the coaching/strategy part of football, but thats all they do..theres no excitement in what they do. And the 3 minute game winning drives that brady does IS exciting..but thats like talking about basketball..2 hours of boredom followed by the last 3 minutes of excitement..not worth it.
anyway, back the the broncos/patriots. Broncos have the upperhand because theyre rested, and have played better throughout the season. BUT, plummer\'s never really showed up in the playoffs, belichek has never lost to a team in the playoffs that beat them in the regular season, brady is nuts in the playoffs, dillon always ends up with 2 TD\'s even if he has 30 yards, theyre front 7 is back to their superbowl form, al wilson has a cast on, darrent williams said hes "60%"..pretty anxious for the broncos to get their running game going.
colts should beat the steelers by 17
bears over carolina by 7
seattle over washington by 14
for fans sake..denver over patriots by 7
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please, please, please
patriots fucking lose
i don\'t even care if the steelers lose at this point
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god, the Patriots are like the plague to you guys
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Despite what you said, they are the Yankees of the NFL. People tire of them and grow to hate them the same way people do of the Yankees.
Don\'t get so offended by the comparison to the Yanks, by the way. Spew all the hateful Yankee comentary you want. There is no greater flattery in sports than to have everyone else hate you.
And no, you don\'t offer more to players and get them to abandon their teams, leaving them high and dry, scrambling to fill the voids left. You just do that with coaches. Yes, I hold grudges for a while.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Don\'t you dare compare the Patriots to the Yankees. I despise them with a passion. Here\'s a key difference, everyone is on even playing ground in the NFL, the size of your pocket does not dictate success in the NFL. In fact the Patriots are kind of the opposite, they get rid of players every year because of money issues, and yet they seem to retain the talent that was lost.
As far as exciting goes. Yeah, they\'re pretty methodical, they don\'t go crazy. The offense isn\'t explosive, but they\'re smart. A conservative offense does not turnover the ball as much. That\'s not to say I don\'t get any excitement at all from watching them, I get plenty excited, 19 game winning drives in the 4th quater under Tom Brady... that\'s pretty exciting.
You could not be more clueless, everyone agree\'s. The Patriots are the Yankee\'s, people are tired of them.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Despite what you said, they are the Yankees of the NFL. People tire of them and grow to hate them the same way people do of the Yankees.
I\'m not buying the Yankees comparison. The Yankees are hated not only because they win but because they spend so much and make the game less competitive.
I don\'t see how you can hate a team for being good. Especially when every team starts off on the same level. That is just hate for the sake of hating.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
I\'m not buying the Yankees comparison. The Yankees are hated not only because they win but because they spend so much and make the game less competitive.
I don\'t see how you can hate a team for being good. Especially when every team starts off on the same level. That is just hate for the sake of hating.
Maybe you can\'t read - but people have stated why they don\'t care for the Patriots. I\'m sure if you actually take the time, look back, you\'ll notice all the reasons that have been listed.
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If boring translates into championships, than bore me up.
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I really don\'t care about the NFC because the superbowl champions will come out of the AFC. The seahawks are so overrated. Their easy schedule help them much.
I am hoping the redskins pound them to the ground. And for all you chicago fans the bears suck. They have no offense. They are the lowest scoring team in the nfl. And don\'t go comparing them to the past tampa and raven teams.
Because those team were good. And they would shit all over the bears.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I really don\'t care about the NFC because the superbowl champions will come out of the AFC. The seahawks are so overrated. Their easy schedule help them much.
I am hoping the redskins pound them to the ground. And for all you chicago fans the bears suck. They have no offense. They are the lowest scoring team in the nfl. And don\'t go comparing them to the past tampa and raven teams.
Because those team were good. And they would shit all over the bears.
The Bears suck huh? Have you even seen them this year? The defense is SUFFOCATING.
It\'s really easy to generalize and just say whatever ESPN tells you eh?
You don\'t have to score too much when you hold your opponent to around 13 points a game.
GO BEARS!
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
I\'m rootin fer da bears, too lukey. \'cos the doctor sez I got a sausage stuck in my aorta.
I love you. And I also Love Marv Levy.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
If boring translates into championships, than bore me up.
I thought people watched these games to, I don\'t know, be ENTERTAINED. You have no affiliation with the team outside of whatever is going on in your head (which after reading some of your posts is quite fucked up).
For the love of christ people make no sense sometimes
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I am hoping the redskins pound them to the ground. And for all you chicago fans the bears suck. They have no offense. They are the lowest scoring team in the nfl. And don\'t go comparing them to the past tampa and raven teams.
uhm..kyle orton? they had to play with their backup all year..AGAIN. Then they put in grossman and his first completion was like 20 yards. He opens the field and hes only played 4 er so games. And they have a 1300 yard running back who was hurt a few games so they have the running game..and thats with kyle orton at qb so defenses could put 8 guys in the box and not worry about them going deep. Now they have a qb that can throw.
And they won all those games with that crappy offense led by kyle orton which shows they have a top 5 defense.
meaning..the only way it seems the bears are guaranteed to lose is if grossman turns the ball over..if he has a good game, they will win..if he has a bad game, theyre defense gives them a real good chance of pulling out a win.
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Indeed.
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The bears ain\'t going to the superbowl. Nuff said!!!!!!!!!!!
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They very well could.
The only team that really worries me is Seattle, and they look horrible right now.
Alexander out with a concussion... The Seahawks are going to lose.
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Like I said... Seattle would win.
And just for the record Jake Plummer is probably my favorite player in the NFL right now.
He\'s the hippy qb.
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patriots managed to bore me watching my favorite team..congratulations..
btw..anyone hear that noise? i think its phil simms blowing every player on the patriots
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i\'m satisfied
the steelers can get blown out tomorrow, and i really don\'t care.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
patriots managed to bore me watching my favorite team..congratulations..
btw..anyone hear that noise? i think its phil simms blowing every player on the patriots
Dude, thats announcers nowadays.
I hate NFL announcers.
Every player is the greatest, every play was amazing, every coach is a genius.
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How about the Patriots?
I don\'t want to hear anyone say they\'re a classy team, because after all the fights they tried to pick and all the tempertantrums they threw on the sideline, they look freakin pathetic.
I\'m happy for you hurricane they lost.
:)
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The NFL playoffs just got twice as exciting.
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:(
Sucks. Can\'t say I thought they were going to the bowl this year. Guess I\'m a Bears fan now. I can\'t bear the thought of any of the other AFC teams winning (I could probably live with the Broncos though.)
Hopefully the Pats will be back and competitive next year.
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Only thing that would of made that better is if Phil Simms would of died on the air.
You could watch the Pats just self destruct during that game. If they wasn\'t acting like brats on the field, then they was fighting among each other. Pathetic really.
Denver wasn\'t exactly burnin\' the game up, but the Pats screwed up enough to hand the game over.
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:D
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Yeah. I\'m sure Bruschi is crying himself to sleep tonight. :rolleyes:
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Bit upset about the loss?
Never said he was.
Just posted a picture gloating in his defeat.
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Why didn\'t he just walk on water and provide fish and loaves for the entire stadium?
The NFL was boring with the Pats on top. Now I can watch some football.
Go Bears!
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Well, that\'s what 5 turnovers does to you. What a crappy loss for the Patriots, they had so many chances to score and just gave it away every time. I didn\'t think this was a superbowl year, but they could have beaten Denver. Oh well, there\'s always next year.
I guess now I\'ll root for the Panthers...
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Screw you then!
GO BEARS SUCKAZ!
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You all are making me very happy (except for hurricane) with you adoption of the Bears.
People are going nuts here today.
I CAN\'T WAIT!
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its not really adoption of the bears..its 1) the nfc sucks, so the bears and steve smith are about the only things afc fans like and 2) they sucked for a while.
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Great Lakes blue-collar cities stick together. I\'m also rooting for Pitt right now.
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
I\'m also rooting for Pitt right now.
as am i..broncos get homefield if they win..if colts win they have to play at the same place they lost a billion to 10 the last 2 years.
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Colts = Lost.
Once again, so close, but yet so far away.
No big surprise.
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:rofl: at the bus fumbling
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broncos get homefield advantage w0000000t
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How bout them Colts? lol
Seeing Peyton lose AGAIN almost makes this weekend a wash. Now all thats left is for the Bears and Broncos to win out and I can watch the Superbowl in peace.
Hey LiC, good thing you set your expectations low, huh? :laughing:
Anyone thing Dungy gets the axe in the off season?
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God damn Vangerjact.
1: The Bus fumbled - why not just take kneel downs there?
2: Come on. The Steelers blew a 21- 3 lead. If they play like that, expect a loss in Denver.
3: This is why Manning is one of the best. He got that team back into the game and if not for Vanderjact it would be in OT.
4: Another year of dissapointment.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Hey LiC, good thing you set your expectations low, huh?
lol..mm did the same thing. was like the battle of low expectations..mm made a negative comment and the steelers got a big lead, LIC countered with a negative comment and the colts game back, mm finished it by talking about bettis fumbling and the colts missed the FG.
I did the same thing yesterda when i said "vinitari NEVER misses"..works all the time
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heh, like i said
the patriots are out so im happily rooting for any winning team now
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The Bus is a fat dude. Seriously. He has a bigger spare tire than some linemen.
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Originally posted by mm
the patriots are out
:mad:
We KNOW!! Stop rubbing it in.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
How bout them Colts? lol
Seeing Peyton lose AGAIN almost makes this weekend a wash. Now all thats left is for the Bears and Broncos to win out and I can watch the Superbowl in peace.
Hey LiC, good thing you set your expectations low, huh? :laughing:
Anyone thing Dungy gets the axe in the off season?
I fully expected a loss - prepare for the worst, that is the key.
Dungy won\'t be cut during the offseason.. It\'ll be the same thing next year. Close, but not quite.
At least they put up an effort unlike the Patriots.
;)
Go Denver next week!
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
At least they put up an effort unlike the Patriots.
:rpissed: :rpissed: :rpissed:
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Go Denver next week!
Pretty much.
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Now hopefully Chicago will beat Carolina.
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What an amazing finish to that last game. Was watching it with a Steelers fan, who almost had a heart attack.
Oh, and the Pats lost :)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
God damn Vangerjact.
1: The Bus fumbled - why not just take kneel downs there?
2: Come on. The Steelers blew a 21- 3 lead. If they play like that, expect a loss in Denver.
3: This is why Manning is one of the best. He got that team back into the game and if not for Vanderjact it would be in OT.
4: Another year of dissapointment.
1) Because the colts had their time outs left. ALthough they really could have downed it a couple times and kicked a field goal. But who would do that?
2) Well the refs kind of helped a bit too. I mean if that dude would have stayed on the ground it would have been been an INT. but since he got up it was an INC. YEah. IT makes sense to me. um...
3) Prevent D rocks.
4) Ah.. gotta love Dungy Ball.
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I\'m just happy the Colts lost.
It eases the pain of the Patriots loss. I\'m almost rooting for Pittsburgh now...
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None of it matters now.
The Pats are out (and at least the Colts game was exciting, its not like they just handed the ball over what? five times? like the Pat\'s lastnight.. :D ).. Bears need to win tho\', I can\'t stand Carolina due to John Fox.
Next week will be ugly tho\'.
Denver played like shit.
Steelers didn\'t play the best - they blew a huge lead.
I don\'t really care who wins it - but I got a feeling it isn\'t goin\' to be the most exciting game .
Most likely.......
Seahawks / Steelers
There ya\' go. That\'s who it\'ll be.
Weird playoff series......
Pat\'s self destruct - sideline meltdowns even!
Colts rust up, up to the very end and then the most accurate kicker misses a 46 yard kick to take in OT.
Now...The Bears are...scoring? What? When did the Bears have an offense??? And if the Bears kick this up, Carolina won\'t have any players not injured. Damn.
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i never realised how delhomme is such an annoing little bitch.
but steve smith= mvp..like iv been saying since mid-season...
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Come sit in the losers box with us, Luke...
Grossman = Grossly over-rated. Orton got you there, should of played him instead. Alright, I\'m being a bit harsh on him, the Bears defense did fail to show up.
i never realised how delhomme is such an annoing little bitch.
He is..Him and John Fox fit well together.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Grossman = Grossly over-rated. Orton got you there, should of played him instead. Alright, I\'m being a bit harsh on him, the Bears defense did fail to show up.
dont even start with that orton crap. I cant prove u wrong because well never see the game with orton at qb..grossman threw too many INT\'s, which is always a risk for a qb with balls to throw it further than 10 yards and has only played a handful of games. But he gives the bears the chance to have a deep pass to let thomas jones carry most of the load and not have to worry about everyone waiting for the run.
The kids been hurt every year of his existence so hes pretty much a rookie..he has less experience than losman..
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misery loves company
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
dont even start with that orton crap. I cant prove u wrong because well never see the game with orton at qb..grossman threw too many INT\'s, which is always a risk for a qb with balls to throw it further than 10 yards and has only played a handful of games. But he gives the bears the chance to have a deep pass to let thomas jones carry most of the load and not have to worry about everyone waiting for the run.
The kids been hurt every year of his existence so hes pretty much a rookie..he has less experience than losman..
The whole point is that Orton does have more playing experience than Grossman . With a game that important, I think you have to go with that, instead of who is suppose to be your starter.
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Hey Luke, can you still take the TV back?
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Heh, I never bought it.... Couldn\'t afford it.
Welp, I\'m pretty sad.
And Grossman is the only reason we even came close in this game. He was shaky at the start no doubt, but he came on in the 2nd half, and if it wasn\'t for him, we would have been blown out.
I\'m looking forward to a qb competition in training camp... May the best QB win.
The defense picked a real bad day to play they\'re worst game of the season.
But alas, the Bears are a very young team, and everyone is under contract.
We\'ll be back in the playoffs again next year... This time with a litle experience.
And yeah, Delhomme and John Fox acted like retards towards the end of the game. They were thumping they\'re chests like they just won the super bowl not, not a divisional playoff game.
Oh well, they won. Good luck with Seattle next week. Your gonna need it.
Personally I think they blew they\'re load this game. Look for Seattle to destroy them.
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Seattle isn\'t that good. I think it may be the opposite.
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Carolina isnt that good. The Bears played a bad game and still barely lost.
What I mean is The Bears looked like about the 28th ranked defense, and they\'re offense is mediocre at best, and they still barely beat them.
We\'ll see I guess, thats why they play the games right?
Like I said, The Panthers blew they\'re load tonight.
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If the Seahawks win, Shaun will have to play, otherwise, Carolina may very well be able to pull it off. Otherwise, look for Seahawks to win.
Denver and Steelers - Ugly game..
And Luke, I feel your pain. It isn\'t like the New England game, where they wasn\'t even in the game. The Colts and Bears done everything to stay in the game and win the game, but at the very last second it all went downhill.
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I think they already said today that Alexander is going to play next week.
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In that case, goodbye Panthers.
P.S - John Fox and Jake are retards. Nothing new on that front.
;)
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It\'s an underdog day....
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Not sure about that - I don\'t think anyone expected the Bears to win. I know for a fact no one expected the Bears to put up that amount of points.
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i thought it was a 50/50 game..wasnt going to be surprised whether the panthers or bears won.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
In that case, goodbye Panthers.
P.S - John Fox and Jake are retards. Nothing new on that front.
;)
They really were sore winners if that can be said...
But what can I say? They won the game, congrats to \'em.
Trust me, come next year Urlacher and Tommie Harris are going to remember all the chest thumping they did at the end of the game.
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Originally posted by Luke
They really were sore winners if that can be said...
But what can I say? They won the game, congrats to \'em.
Trust me, come next year Urlacher and Tommie Harris are going to remember all the chest thumping they did at the end of the game.
So true. It wasn\'t like the Steelers, who took the won and was classy about it. You would of thought Carolina had won the damn superbowl already. No class.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
It isn\'t like the New England game, where they wasn\'t even in the game.
Thats bullshit. The Patriots were definately in the game they just made mistakes at the worst possible times. Look at the stats. Offensively the Pats were pretty much having their way with the Broncos\' D they just couldn\'t finish.
Still, no one really expected the Pats to win it all and they were lucky to even make the playoffs so they were playing with house money to begin with. The Colts on the other hand. lol. I GUARANTEE there are Colts fans/players crying themselves to sleep tonight. lol
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Thats bullshit. The Patriots were definately in the game they just made mistakes at the worst possible times. Look at the stats. Offensively the Pats were pretty much having their way with the Broncos\' D they just couldn\'t finish.
Still, no one really expected the Pats to win it all and they were lucky to even make the playoffs so they were playing with house money to begin with. The Colts on the other hand. lol. I GUARANTEE there are Colts fans/players crying themselves to sleep tonight. lol
Glad you are in denial. If you don\'t think any Patsy\'s fans wasn\'t convinced there would be a three-peat, then look at Hurricane, who has done nothing but live in a fantasy world.
P.S - It\'s not how many good plays you make, but how few bad you make and guess what? The Pat\'s was KING of the bad plays Saturday night. You can call it "bullshit", but they played like a high school team at times. All those yards they had passing means nothing when all Denver had to do is go 1 yr for a TD, 3 yrs for a TD and so on. Due to their failure to maintain the ball, they was NEVER in the GAME.
End of story.
P.S - Before you come up with the fact Brady as three rings and therefor he is the best QB, keep in mind, Marino is one of the all time bests and he never had a ring.
:)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
If the Seahawks win, Shaun will have to play, otherwise, Carolina may very well be able to pull it off. Otherwise, look for Seahawks to win.
Denver and Steelers - Ugly game..
And Luke, I feel your pain. It isn\'t like the New England game, where they wasn\'t even in the game. The Colts and Bears done everything to stay in the game and win the game, but at the very last second it all went downhill.
Quite the opposite, they were in the game til late in the 4th quater. Denver scored 24 points off of turnovers, you take away the New England mistakes, and its a different ball-game. None of these errors were "forced" by Denver either, it was just a lack of execution on the side of New England.
I feel the Colts loss is worse than New England\'s in many ways. New England was never picked to go to the Superbowl. This was "THE YEAR" for the Colts. They got the monkey off their back with New England, and they had homefield throuhgout. To have toyed with a perfect season, and then go one and done, that\'s just terrible. The Colts were the Superbowl favorites and they got outplayed.
New England just played like crap, the Colts at their best, were not good enough on this day. They were resilient, I will give them that much.
Chicago\'s loss is a mixed bag. They were home but they had no playoff experience. On top of that, their quaterback had maybe 4 games under his belt. Mismanagement perhaps? I dunno.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Glad you are in denial. If you don\'t think any Patsy\'s fans wasn\'t convinced there would be a three-peat, then look at Hurricane, who has done nothing but live in a fantasy world.
P.S - It\'s not how many good plays you make, but how few bad you make and guess what? The Pat\'s was KING of the bad plays Saturday night. You can call it "bullshit", but they played like a high school team at times. All those yards they had passing means nothing when all Denver had to do is go 1 yr for a TD, 3 yrs for a TD and so on. Due to their failure to maintain the ball, they was NEVER in the GAME.
End of story.
You are crazy. Did you even watch the game? The Pats offense drove up the field pretty much at will and the defense followed their gameplan and shut down the running game. The Patriots were in the game into the fourth quarter.
As for Pats fans. Of course we wanted to see our team win and we knew that this team was capable of taking it to Detroit but that doesn\'t change the fact that the Pats were playing with house money. They gave the game away on the road in one of the toughest places for road teams to win. The Colts got man handled at home and now their mongoloid QB is throwing players under the bus.
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
P.S - Before you come up with the fact Brady as three rings and therefor he is the best QB, keep in mind, Marino is one of the all time bests and he never had a ring. :)
True Marino is one of the all-time bests but NO ONE(outside of Miami) ever picks him above Montana. Why? Because of the rings. In the eyes of History, stats make you a good QB but rings make you a great one. When it is all said and done I think that Brady right now has more rings than Peyton will have in his entire career.
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Quite the opposite, they were in the game til late in the 4th quater. Denver scored 24 points off of turnovers, you take away the New England mistakes, and its a different ball-game. None of these errors were "forced" by Denver either, it was just a lack of execution on the side of New England.
I feel the Colts loss is worse than New England\'s in many ways. New England was never picked to go to the Superbowl. This was "THE YEAR" for the Colts. They got the monkey off their back with New England, and they had homefield throuhgout. To have toyed with a perfect season, and then go one and done, that\'s just terrible. The Colts were the Superbowl favorites and they got outplayed.
New England just played like crap, the Colts at their best, were not good enough on this day. They were resilient, I will give them that much.
You have the dumbest logic ever, but that is to be expected from you. Both losses are just that, losses. Nothing more. The only difference is the Colts fell behind and almost came back, where as the Patriots just handed that game over. And none of those yards stats matter at the end of the day, not with those turn overs. But, I mean, if you want to come up with insane logic, go for it.
And dumbass of the year award goes to.....
Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Joey Porter is not known to shy away from a microphone, and that might make him a little lighter in the wallet after his comments after Sunday\'s game against the Indianapolis Colts.
When Troy Polamalu\'s fourth-quarter interception was overturned by referee Pete Morelli, Porter felt the Steelers were facing opponents on two fronts: the Colts and the refs.
"I know they wanted Indy to win this game," Porter told The New York Times. "The whole world loves Peyton Manning, but come on man, don\'t take the game away from us.
Even after the win, he wants to whine about cheating? Questionable call, yes. But that has happened in every single playoff game so far.
Oh and Black - the only reason I ever mentioned Marino is because now everyone is jumpin\' on the \'hate Manning\' bandwagon, but guess what? He didn\'t lose the game. The Colts did. None of them played to their top performance, until the very end and then it was simply to late.
Anyways - with the four teams left, I hope the Steelers win it. Becuase minus dumbass Porter, they are a good team.
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At the end of the day, The Pats lost on the road to the 2nd seed in a stadium where the Broncos rarely lose and the Colts lost at home to the 6th seed in a stadium where the Colts rarely lose.
All these years Colts fans have been saying that homefield advantage would get them to the Superbowl and now they see that Peyton is an overrated player who has never won the big one in his career.
Is it a coincidence that Tennessee didn\'t win the national championship while Peyton Monging was there and win it AS SOON as he leaves? Or could it be that Peyton is just not a winner. He is the Alex Rodriguez of the NFL. He only shows up when the game is meaningless.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
with the four teams left, I hope the Steelers win it. Becuase minus dumbass Porter, they are a good team.
I\'m rooting for the Broncos to win it. Just for the small satisfaction in knowing that your team lost to the eventual champs. If not the Broncos then the Panthers. No Steelers and no Seahawks.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
At the end of the day, The Pats lost on the road to the 2nd seed in a stadium where the Broncos rarely lose and the Colts lost at home to the 6th seed in a stadium where the Colts rarely lose.
All these years Colts fans have been saying that homefield advantage would get them to the Superbowl and now they see that Peyton is an overrated player who has never won the big one in his career.
Is it a coincidence that Tennessee didn\'t win the national championship while Peyton Monging was there and win it AS SOON as he leaves? Or could it be that Peyton is just not a winner. He is the Alex Rodriguez of the NFL. He only shows up when the game is meaningless.
Now you are just being abusrd.. Meaningless? Those other 13 games was meaningless? Huh? Playoff run year afer year , meaningless? And how many other great QB\'s have taken years before their first ring? Quite a few.
I love how the Colts haters want to lay the blame all on Manning. None of it goes to VANDERJACT, none of it goes to the offensive line for collapsing and none of it goes on the defense for all those missed tackles. It was obviously MANNING\'s fault. Just like it was obviously Brady\'s fault on Saturday, right?
:rolleyes:
I know you hate Manning as much as I dislike Brady, but even I have enough common sense to not lay all the blame of the loss on one single player.
P.S - Never had delusions of a SB win this year. I knew the Colts would choke. I don\'t care. I still watch football to be excited and that happened yesterday durin\' that 4th QTR. And at least unlike HUrricane, I am not back-pedaling trying to say I never expected a "three-peat"...
:rofl:
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well i\'ll just say my bit on the colts game..i didn\'t see it all i actually came in on it when polymumu or whatever his name is intercepted it...and as much as i wanted the colts to win it, that was clearly an INT. that said tho...the steelers themselves had the game won and bettis coughs it up at the goal line. Manning got that team down the field in a hurry. and when it was 3rd and 2? i would\'ve ran the ball to give vanderjact a shorter kicking distance,....but still that s**t was unreal..this guy is usually "clutch" under pressure..:(...i guess that timeout the syeelers called really f**ked up his mental...dude looked like he was gonna cry...i really wanted the colts to go to the superbowl and win it....with the pats out of it i was sure that this was they\'re year,...add to the fact that with dungy\'s personal problems,..what better way to end the year with a ring.
whelp at this point i guess i\'ll be cheering for the panthers. i\'ve read in a coulpe of posts earlier that the panthers were acting like assholes after the win..:confused:...i didn\'t see that game either,..maybe it was just a case of them just being "amped" about the win. heh heh somebody mentioned year of the underdogs earlier..:p..i\'d have to agree with that...even tho i did expect carolina to beat chicago...
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ESPN is reporting that Pats defensive coordinator Eric Mangini has agreed to terms with the NY Jets and will be their Head Coach next season.
Can\'t say that I\'m happy to see him go but I do like the idea of Pepper Johnson potentially filling his spot. I have heard a lot about the Jets owner being obsessed with emulating the Patriots\' style but I never really experienced it until this moment. This may have been a hasty decision but only time will tell.
Interesting sidenote. Had the Bills gotten Weiss to sign with them the entire AFC East would now be coached by Belichick and his extended family of coaches.
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There was nothing wrong with Edwards and the Jet\'s, other than the fact they was plagued by injuries. Oh well. I think he\'ll find success with the Chiefs.
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I agree. I don\'t know why the Jets fans seem to hate dude so much.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
I agree. I don\'t know why the Jets fans seem to hate dude so much.
Exactly. I mean, when Pennington and the rest of the crew was healthy they did have succesful a succcesful season. Like I said, Edwards should find succes with the Chiefs. And if the Jet\'s want longterm succes, then they need to find another QB, because at this point Chad is simply to beat up.
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they have more than a few problems. they can wait a year or two before going after the secondary, but the qb and rb problems are HUGE.
Blaylock was good in the chiefs system and is as much of a question mark as a broncos running back who goes into a different system. No idea how he will do or if hell be injury prone.
Your right about qb though..at least get an aaron rodgers equivalent that may not be a "PUT HIM AS THE STARTER NOW" kind of rookie, but will be lined up to be the next qb if need be.
They need a slot reciever too.
Edwards pretty much left them with some huge question marks to go to a team that has an awesome offense, larry johnson, and a defense with potentially good players (bell, surtain, wesley, jared allen). Im actually waaayyy more worried about the chiefs than the chargers
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Hey, I\'m a Jets fan, and I loved Edwards. I was sad to see him go.
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After getting Marv Levy back, I hear that we\'re getting Lou Saban to coach....
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Now you are just being abusrd.. Meaningless? Those other 13 games was meaningless? Huh? Playoff run year afer year , meaningless? And how many other great QB\'s have taken years before their first ring? Quite a few.
Reminds me of John Elway, BUT, Peyton has the best offensive team he\'ll ever have RIGHT now. Hes not going to get a better James or a better receiever then Harrison. He has 1-2 more years at MOST before Harrison and James become too old and slow down. Its going to be hard to impossible to replace those players. And by the time they leave their prime Peyton will be well on his way.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I love how the Colts haters want to lay the blame all on Manning. None of it goes to VANDERJACT, none of it goes to the offensive line for collapsing and none of it goes on the defense for all those missed tackles. It was obviously MANNING\'s fault. Just like it was obviously Brady\'s fault on Saturday, right?
:rolleyes:
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I\'m not getting on Manning for just this one game. He has a long history of not performing in clutch situations. His playoff record is 3-6 for a reason. Terry Bradshaw tore into him not only for calling out his O-Line but for his performance in the playoffs.
Looks like the Chargers have put together the recipe to beat the Colts. Before teams used to be scared to death to blitz the Colts, like the Rams. Now its just a matter of time before the Colts suffer the Rams fate. Maybe next season?
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Originally posted by clowd
Looks like the Chargers have put together the recipe to beat the Colts. Before teams used to be scared to death to blitz the Colts, like the Rams. Now its just a matter of time before the Colts suffer the Rams fate. Maybe next season?
Theres only a handful of teams that have a great front 7/decent secondary like the chargers and the steelers. And of those handful, a small amount of them actually play the colts. So you\'re partially right because i think the colts will always end up playing a team built like the chargers and steelers (steelers obviously a little better/more physical) that can blitz the colts well enough to not give manning enough time to do his thing in the playoffs to knock them out.
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Mark my words, after that loss and the free agents during this offseason, Colts won\'t even make it to playoffs next year.
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I dunno how the Colts offensive line will react to Peyton\'s remarks about "protection". He said it like he got fucked without a condom or something.
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not really funny..sadistically it is though
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2295603
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
I dunno how the Colts offensive line will react to Peyton\'s remarks about "protection". He said it like he got fucked without a condom or something.
That is one things..
Another is Vanderjact may be let go. I think his contract is up and even if it isn\'t, it is well known he isn\'t liked by upper-mangement, not to mention he done the same thing last year with the opening game against NE..
Reggie Wayne and Edge are both free agents after this year also.
Dungy hasn\'t won a SB, the Colts was counting on winning it this year, due to the fact they have a new state of the art dome being built.
There will be a lot of changes during this off-season and the Colt\'s won\'t be a top ranked team come next year.
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The colts are gonna be a contender as long as they have Manning on one side of the ball and Freeney on the other. They may not run through the league like they did early this year without Edge and Wayne, but they won\'t fall out of it THAT much either.
Basically, this team has the same problem they always have. They\'re too soft. Manning didn\'t have the time he was accustomed to, and it clearly got to him. He is one of the smartest QB\'s in the league, but if you don\'t have time to think, that means nothing. The Colts won all year by dictating the pace of the game on offense. It\'s what they were known for. The Steelers dictated the pace when the Colts were on offense, and that\'s why they won.
The difference between this team and the Rams super bowl team is the Rams offense, in many ways, started with their O-Line. The only #1 pick I can think of on that offense was Orlando Pace. Warner had time to make his reads and make the right pass, and Faulk had time to rip off a few game breaking runs. They had some weapons, but it all has to start from the lines. Peyton was right about his O-Line (though I don\'t know he should have called them out like that).
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Basically, this team has the same problem they always have. They\'re too soft. Manning didn\'t have the time he was accustomed to, and it clearly got to him. He is one of the smartest QB\'s in the league, but if you don\'t have time to think, that means nothing. The Colts won all year by dictating the pace of the game on offense. It\'s what they were known for. The Steelers dictated the pace when the Colts were on offense, and that\'s why they won.
That much is true - but ask the Mannin\' haters and it\'s because he "choked". Which isn\'t the case. It\'s simply a matter of he wasn\'t playing what he is use to and that is the Colt\'s dictating the pace. Fact is, none of that offensive line is use to it.
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not too confident..the broncos get 7 yards just fine but struggle getting first downs, their secondary is getting picked apart..
foxworth is useless as a second string CB..i didnt think darrent williams injury would bite them in the ass. They need to sign someone like dre bly..i guess ricky manning is the only worth-while free agent corner
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just ridiculous..i said that in the first quarter and they didnt adjust at all..4th quarter comes and theres still no pressure and guys wide pen 30 yards down the field every fucking time. Cant even imagine them playing the colts if the steelers are able to pass on them at will.
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Like I said... The Panthers blew their wad last week.
Steve Smith is a bitch and Jake Delhomme is a dork.
(Yeah, I\'m still bitter about last week).
Oh and, there are HUGE rumors here in Chicago about how the Bears GM had a "meeting" with TO last week.
Granted, just rumors at this point but, man, that would be insane.
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Jake sucks - he just proved that.
I can\'t believe Young and Irvin called him an Elite QB this mornin on ESPN.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Jake sucks - he just proved that.
I can\'t believe Young and Irvin called him an Elite QB this mornin on ESPN.
i wouldnt go that far. Definitly not an elite QB though. He had a solid year. Kind of tough when your run oriented offense only gains 30 yards from each running back (most of tatum\'s came at the end when they had no chance) so theres more to it than being a crappy qb..they dont have an explosive gameplan to teach plummer.
Or are u talking about delhomme?
Im confident in him next season if the broncos make an offense thats not as conservative.
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Originally posted by Luke
Oh and, there are HUGE rumors here in Chicago about how the Bears GM had a "meeting" with TO last week.
Granted, just rumors at this point but, man, that would be insane.
McNabb wasn\'t a good enough QB for Owens. Owens wasn\'t getting enough balls thrown his way.
Grossman is the quarterback in Chicago.
Chicago runs the ball, and also has other options in the passing game. That situation would get ugly fast.
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TO is in no position to demand anything right now. Maybe he\'ll realize that when he sees how much smaller the contract offers are. Besides, any contract he\'s given at least should have a clause dealing with what happens if he pulls this shit again.
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Originally posted by IareEthan
McNabb wasn\'t a good enough QB for Owens. Owens wasn\'t getting enough balls thrown his way.
Grossman is the quarterback in Chicago.
Chicago runs the ball, and also has other options in the passing game. That situation would get ugly fast.
I tend to agree.
I\'m not sure if I want TO on the Bears really.
On one hand... he\'s damn good.
On the other hand... he can tend to be a jackass.
Speaking of jackasses, screw the panthers.
And everything shock said is probably very true.
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I see two possible destinations for TO... Atlanta or Dallas. Vick has no one to throw to in Atlanta, and Dallas has been a pass-first team as of late.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
i wouldnt go that far. Definitly not an elite QB though. He had a solid year. Kind of tough when your run oriented offense only gains 30 yards from each running back (most of tatum\'s came at the end when they had no chance) so theres more to it than being a crappy qb..they dont have an explosive gameplan to teach plummer.
Or are u talking about delhomme?
Im confident in him next season if the broncos make an offense thats not as conservative.
I was talking about Delhomee.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Jake sucks - he just proved that.
I can\'t believe Young and Irvin called him an Elite QB this mornin on ESPN.
Who was the other commmentator? He looked like they peed on his leg when they said Plummer (or was it Delhomme?) was elite. He said "Ya\'ll are crazy!" And he looked genuinely insulted when he said it.
And Boomer Esiason during the half time break said "Plummer is just aweful!" or something like that. I couldn\'t believe it. Usually he\'s more reserved with his comments.
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whelp congrats gman!..even tho i\'m not a big fan of the steelers, i really don\'t hate them either...great job against the broncos...as for the seattle and panther game,...wtf happened to the panthers?..:(...delhomme played like garbage....i guess since seattle knew the running game was finished, all they had to do was to key in on the passing game. still, if smith is getting triple teamed somebody has gotta step up and get open.
i saw smith yellin\' at the offensive coord. during the game. the commentator stated that it was due to him not getting the ball, if that was the case, he shouldn\'t be complaining at all. if you\'re covered like that you are not going to get any balls your way. Well add to the fact delhomme played like s**t.
somebody mentioned a comment about elite qb\'s... i\'m sorry but plummer is not what i\'d call elite,..neither is delhomme...the only qb\'s of this gen that i\'d probably call elite is either brett or manning....(i think big ben and palmer are on their way)..but besides those two, i haven\'t really seen a marino, a montana, or an elway...
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Smith is a short version of Owens.
Delhomee is a hack QB who made it this far due to his offensive line doin\' the job for him.
John Fox is an ignorant coach . Look back the last time they was in the Superbowl and his dumbass idea to keep goin\' for two point conversions. He is arrogant and ignorant.
I loved see\'ing the Panthers get spanked, espically after Young and Irvin called Delhomee an "Elite QB". Yeah, right.
The Panthers have been a one dimensional time all year and without that runnin\' game, they was screwed. Throw two people on Smith and guess what, no one else is goin\' to step up and let the passin\' game be succesful. No running game and no passing game, equals certain failure.
As for Jake "No Mistake" Plummer, no comments. I doubt he\'ll ever be a great QB, he\'ll be a decent one at that is it. Still, you can\'t lay all the blame on him, after all, it was the Denver defense that was letting the Steelers march down the field and usually it was on friggin\' 3rd and 9 or 3rd and 5. It was one conversion after another.
Both those games was pathetic, when you consider they was championship games.
Oh and I\'m callin\' it now, the Steelers will win it all.
As for Clips - Elite QB\'s playing today..
Farve
Brady
Manning
I don\'t equal rings with success, as that comes down to the whole team. An elite QB needs to be able to run that offense, read coverage, make plays, run the two mintue drill and not panic . I know some will argue that Manning doesn\'t fit into that, but I think he does and if he doesn\'t yet - he most certainly will in the next few years. Brady and Farve already are in that catergory.
Palmer? No. I doubt he ever will be. He\'s good, no doubt, but I think the Bengals will fall apart after this year\'s dissapointment. Not to mention the long term effects of Palmers injury, he could end up being another Pennington. One injury after another.
Rothlisberger, if he continues to play like he has the last two years, then he is almost guranteed a spot in the elite QB section. At two years, he has already been to two championship games and now a superbowl. He doesn\'t panic and he does read coverage and make changes when needed. Most of all, he doesn\'t make stupid plays.
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If being a hack coach means you can take a 1-15 team and almost instantly turn them into a perenial contender, then I\'ll take that hack coach and day. John Fox is one of the NFL\'s better coaches. It\'s easy to point at one game and say someone sucks, but look at how they dismantled teams in the playoffs the previous two weeks. It\'s not his fault his top 3 RB\'s were injured.
Neither Jake is an elite QB, no problem. However, Rothlisberger is certainly getting there. He\'s shown so much poise and won so much already, and now the Steelers are really starting to allow him to show what he can do.
As for Palmer, he\'s not going to be like Pennington. Palmer tore his ACL and MCL. Pennington\'s problems have been different. He\'s always lacked the strength of most NFL QB\'s, and that has contributed to his injuries. There is no reason to think that Palmer is injury prone. It was just a one time thing, so far. He did have a great season though, and there\'s no reason to believe that he can\'t continue to build on it. He\'s still young, and he was 2nd in the league in QB rating. He just needs to win a little more, and continue as he has, and that\'ll come in time for what is an improving team.
And Favre certainly wasn\'t an elite QB this year, what with that 70.9 QB rating, lower than Anthony Wright, Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington, and Brooks Bollinger, among others.
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You have to look at Favre\'s whole career, not just one season. I certainly won\'t argue that he does need to retire before he hurts his stats even more.
John Fox, I will give you that. Maybe I am just not a fan of his coaching style. I never called him a "hack coach", by the way. I did say he was ignorant and arrogant, which I stand by. His play calling shows that most the time. Still, you are right, he did take a team to the superbowl and go this one to the NFC Championship game. Impressive. But he also created a one dimensional team and I think the Seahawks showed that.
My comparison to Pennington wasn\'t the best, I\'ll give you that. I just have not seen anything from Palmer to tell me that he will be an elite QB. If nothing else, I think he will suffer from staying with the Bengals, due to the fact I\'m convinced after this season they will go back to being the \'Bungles\'. Yes, I\'m writing down the Bengals playoff run as a one time thing.
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Well, there were certainly points in Favre\'s career where he was an elite QB, and the best QB in the league. No arguement there. I\'m just not sure he\'s there right now.
As for John Fox, sorry about the hack coach thing. I combined the John Fox comment with the line above about Delhomme being a hack QB in my mind somehow. He has been a head coach for four years now though. The Panthers were 1-15 the year before he took over, and he had them in the Super Bowl in two years. He missed the playoffs last year, mainly due to injuries, but got back to the NFC title game this year.
I think the team was one dimensional more because of personel issues than coaching style. They were 6th in the NFC (10th in the NFL) in rushing attempts, but due to injuries, and in my opinion not the best quality of backs to begin with, they struggled anyway. They had more carries than teams like San Diego, Tampa Bay, the Giants, and other teams known for committing to the run. In fact, they ran the ball about 40 more times than they passed it this year. The pass just got all the publicity because of Steve Smith (and his tendancy to be a highlight whore).
Either way, I\'d say that the lack of run offense at this point was hardly John Fox\'s fault. Imagine where most teams would be if they started the game with their 3rd string RB starting, and lost him in the early going. It would be no better.
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Point taken.
One thing we can agree on is Smith being a limelight whore.
;)
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damn right hes a limelight whore. I had him as mvp in my mind..just tough for a WR to oust a RB (let alone a RB with a record). Plus he was on my fantasy team..heh
But smith catches 60%ish of the panthers passes, only a few teams were able to shut him down, and a one WR is much easier to plan for than a RB. They couldnt really get the ball to him, but leave it up to smith to score on the punt return.
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What a difference it would make if Muhammed was still on that team.
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thats the beauty of the nfl. I doubt their cap could handle both WR\'s..colbert er whatever his name is turned into a bust and theyre running back sitation is a mess.
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Shaun goin\' to Carolina?
CHARLOTTE -- The NFL\'s top running back says he\'ll play Sunday for the Seattle Seahawks. He also says he might play next year for the Carolina Panthers.
Shaun Alexander, who led the league in rushing and will lead the Seahawks into Sunday\'s NFC championship game against the Panthers, says he might join former teammate Ken Lucas next season in Carolina.
"I told him you never know," Alexander said Wednesday in a teleconference. "I might be out there with you."
This isn\'t a far-fetched idea. Carolina might very well be in the market for a running back, and Alexander might be the top target. We won\'t know for some time.
What we do know is that Alexander can become a free agent after March 1, and the Panthers could be without their top two running backs by then. Stephen Davis, who was placed on the injured reserve list in December, might never play again. DeShaun Foster, who was injured Sunday in an NFC playoff game against Chicago, can also become a free agent after the season.
From another forum, posted off News & Records site.
Dungy confirms he will be back for next year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2301799
And..........
Superbowl 40 = Super - bore?
Two Words For You:
SUPER. BORE.
Only a week ago, the Super Bowl was all set to live up to its "XL" label. Now, it\'s the "Super Bore."
Across the sports-geography spectrum (unless you\'re a fan of either Seattle or Pittsburgh), there hasn\'t been a Super Bowl with less national fan interest in a long time.
Meaning? This XL-sized Super Bowl will truly test the idea that the game is that much bigger than the teams involved.
At first glance, the game\'s matchup might be even, but its buzz is a shutout.
(Look no further than the most recent poll results on ESPN.com\'s front page: Kobe scoring 81 is 50 percent more popular a story than the Steelers and Seahawks advancing to the Super Bowl.)
NFL fans have become spoiled by the Pats dynasty; even this season, our expectations were that we\'d see the most improbable Pats title of all -- or at least the breakthrough of Peyton Manning and the Colts.
There\'s simply not the drama of years past. Can\'t Shaun Alexander go a little "T.O." on us, just to spice things up?
Even a Freddie Mitchell imitation from Matt Hasselbeck would make things more interesting at this point.
But, really, a "blah" reaction from fans is beyond the NFL -- it\'s a nasty little virus going around the pro sports world over the last year:
Look at last year\'s NBA Finals: Fans yawned at the prospects of the Pistons and Spurs (even though it turned out to be a dramatic series on the court). They had been spoiled by the dramatics of Kobe and Shaq.
Look at the World Series: Fans were underwhelmed by the White Sox and Astros (despite Chicago\'s epic title drought). They had been spoiled by the Rise of the Red Sox.
It doesn\'t matter that the Spurs or the White Sox were worthy champs. Excellence has taken a backseat to our jones for outsize drama.
Make no mistake: This is unfair to both the Seahawks, a Super Bowl first-timer, and the Steelers, who would claim the superlative novelty of becoming the lowest-seeded playoff team to win a championship.
I\'m just extending last week\'s sense of ho-hum from fans for the conference championship matchups and expanding it to sports\' biggest stage:
The Whoop-de-do-per Bowl.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/quickie?date=060123
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It\'s not an appealing matchup, but it\'s still the Superbowl, and it will still get the years top ratings.
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I\'m a fan of neither team and from neither city. In fact, I live in Philadelphia. And yet, I\'m still more excited about it than last year\'s super bowl.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I\'m a fan of neither team and from neither city. In fact, I live in Philadelphia. And yet, I\'m still more excited about it than last year\'s super bowl.
Exactly. Infact this is the first in three years thaty i am excited about.
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I do find it funny that the person saying it\'s a boring matchup is the Pats fan :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I do find it funny that the person saying it\'s a boring matchup is the Pats fan :rolleyes:
Exactly what I was thinkin\'.
This one actually has two things of interest...Well, three really.
1: Seahawks first attempt in the "big game".
2: Bettis\' last game. Send him out with a ring.
3: One for the thumb.
Those three reasons make this one more appealing than the past three years.
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When did I say it was boring? I said it wasn\'t appealing, that has nothing to do with how the game will be played, I\'m referring to the promotion of the event. Good job putting words in my mouth. This time last year we were talking is TO playing, or is he not. We had talks as to whether the Pats could repeat. There was a lot going on before the Superbowl.
I wasn\'t talking about the actual game.
And for the record, I do find the Pats games exciting. They are usually close and come down to the last few minutes. Better than the friggen blowouts that was the AFC and NFC championship games.
I love how you guys like to disagree with everything I say just so you can attack me. I was stating my opinion, and you guys misinterpreted it, just so you could take your shots at me. I don\'t know why, but you guys are very bitter, and it shows in your posts. I have done nothing wrong, and yet you love to rip me apart. Forgive me for rooting for the Patriots, I\'m sorry. Who do you want me to root for? Rather than be an individual I will conform to whatever you want. That\'s what you want isn\'t it?
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You are boring, so stop posting your Patsy crap. No one likes them or Brady so stop swinging from their nuts like Tarzan.
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3 things:
(1) You have as much credibility as a monkey.
(2) Ratings will be way down from last years, I guarentee it.
(3) As far as boring goes, you can kiss my ass.
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Hey dude at least none of us have man crushes on Teddy Bruschi and Tom Brady. It gets old when a team whens it every year, thats how it is. I see two evenly matched teams that will have a good game. At least we won\'t see Vinaterie kicking the game winning field goal so that the Patsy\'s win by three again.
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Ok whatever, you can\'t handle a civil conversation. Grow up! You don\'t know how hypocritical you sound right now. But rather than get into a whole nother argument I\'m going to end this right now.
Don\'t bother responding to anymore of my posts with the intention of getting a response from me.
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Explain to me how hypocritical I am being, why respond to me if you\'re not going to explain your thoughts. The Patriots have won enough, hold off, you don\'t see me on here being a little bitch when the Yankees don\'t win it.
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Calm down a bit there Hurricane. I\'m not trying to attack you. I\'m not trying to say you think it\'ll be a boring game, I\'m trying to say you think it\'s a boring matchup, which still seems to be what you\'re saying. Everything leading up to it, in your mind, is less exciting.
I disagree with that, by the way. I would rather see this game than last year\'s, because I personally like both teams better, I like how they play the game better than their counterparts in each conference. Just my personal opinion.
There will be plenty to talk about as the game draws closer. The ratings may be down, but what does that say? All that really means to me is that it\'s because the teams are from smaller markets, meaning fewer non football fans turn the game on just cause it\'s a city event. I mean, seriously, if you\'re a fan of the NFL enough to know the difference going in, what are the chances you don\'t watch the Super Bowl, no matter who\'s in it?
The only thing about the patriots that makes it more entertaining is it gives the nation outside of New England a clear team to root against/hate. Same as when the Yanks are in the series. But I certainly don\'t root for the Yanks to make the series.
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This game isn\'t very appealing despite what you guys are saying. It would be cool to see Bettis go out with a ring but other than that fuck the Steelers. Maybe the Seahawks can pull off a win.
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
This one actually has two things of interest...Well, three really.
1: Seahawks first attempt in the "big game".
2: Bettis\' last game. Send him out with a ring.
3: One for the thumb.
:rolleyes: That stuff is only interesting to the Seahawks and Stiller fans. Why would the Steelers getting a fifth ring and the Seahawks first bowl be interesting this year but the Eagles "curse" and the Panthers first time not be interesting the last two years? Your Pats inferiority complex is clouding your judgement. This game has stinker written all over it.
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
This game isn\'t very appealing despite what you guys are saying. It would be cool to see Bettis go out with a ring but other than that fuck the Steelers. Maybe the Seahawks can pull off a win.
:rolleyes: That stuff is only interesting to the Seahawks and Stiller fans. Why would the Steelers getting a fifth ring and the Seahawks first bowl be interesting this year but the Eagles "curse" and the Panthers first time not be interesting the last two years? Your Pats inferiority complex is clouding your judgement. This game has stinker written all over it.
Nice try.
As someone who happens to enjoy watchin\' the Steelers play, I happen to think the game will be interesting.
1: Don\'t care for the Panthers, but I did cheer for them in the Superbowl.
2: The Eagles curse? I had no interest in that game .
3: The Panthers Game / Patriots was mildy entertaining, \'cept for John Fox\'s mindless calls. The Eagles game was BORING and destined to be BORING.
Your Patriot love is clouding your judgement. You can\'t see a decent game for nothin\'. You have two ranked offenses and both have damn good defenses.
Oh yeah and get over yourself Hurricane . No one is just trying to find something to attack you. We just find it amusing that someone who thinks Patriot games are exciting (which most here don\'t!), that you find this game boring. It also screams that you would find ANY GAME boring without the whole "three-peat" nonsense, where as I, a Colts fan can still sit back and enjoy the game.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Your Patriot love is clouding your judgement.
That is very likely
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
That is very likely
Nothing wrong with that. Can\'t say I blame you really. It happens to the best of us.
Still, even if I\'m not a big fan of either team, I will enjoy this game. It\'s the kind of game, I enjoy to watch. I expect a fast paced , high offense game.
P.S - I friggin love your avatar.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
P.S - I friggin love your avatar. [/B]
i second that...DAYUM!..:fro:...and a quick question..did the seahawks ever play the steelers this season?
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
P.S - I friggin love your avatar.
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she may be the most gorgeous woman..EVER
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
she may be the most gorgeous woman..EVER
For the second time on this page and in this thread I\'m going to have to agree with you.
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I\'m a wise man.
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ugh http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2312714
I was behind shanahan\'s gambles with clarret and the browns D-line..but this is way too far. TO costs too much to take gambles and the broncos need as much cap room as they can get so they can keep lepsis and nalen. Not even going to get in to how plummers carefree style (not to mention lack of deep threat style, even with lelie whose great at deep routes) will be the demise of the broncos if they actually sign TO. I know they need a top reciever, because rod smith is great but no speed, and lelie is above average at best. But hell no..
Im going to root for the bears next season if they sign him. If grossman gets hurt then its the falcons..if vick gets syphillis, ill just root for fantasy football.
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whelp it\'s saturday...so i\'m gonna call this early....i want seattle to win but i get the feeling the steelers are gonna win this one...i predict...
steelers- 27 seahawks- 23...
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Seems how everyone down here is talkin bout bettis. I guess I am going with the steelers. I really don\'t care. Been a crazy week. I actually went to a couple of these celeb parties.
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no you didnt
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ha!
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MM is jealous
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so is big ben http://info.break.com/static/break/html/benr.html
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NERDS!
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Originally posted by mm
no you didnt
I went to two parties last night. One cost $50 to get in and the other was $100 at the door. They both were a waste of money. I just don\'t see why people think it\'s so exciting just to see some so called celeb up close. And when you see these people in person they look like average joes.
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I use to go to the parties all the time when I was in the media. I didn\'t have to pay though. That\'s for the fuckin losers.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
I went to two parties last night. One cost $50 to get in and the other was $100 at the door. They both were a waste of money. I just don\'t see why people think it\'s so exciting just to see some so called celeb up close. And when you see these people in person they look like average joes.
No you didn\'t, you damn liar.
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I CAN FINALLY SPEAK! WHOOOOOOT! STEELERS WIN DA SUPA BOWL!
One for the THUMB!
All season long, I didn\'t wear any Steelers logo at all. I didn\'t wanna jinx them! AND GUESS WHAT! THEY WON! ~I~ am the reason why they won. ME. I am the 12th man.
I want that trophy. Oh well.....unsung hero I can live with.
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"i like to see good things happen to good people"
-rod woodson
thanks for the ride, bussy
oh, and the man who most deserved to hold the trophy?
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The Rooneys. They are the opposite of the Jerry Jones\'s. Thank goodness.
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congrats gman..your team have finally joined the ranks of my boys and the niners for having the most wins in a superbowl....we still been to tha superbowl MORE times than your team so...RESPEC!...:fro: :daddy:
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Yeah....but which team has beaten the Cowboys TWICE in the Superbowl? Who\'s yo daddy now? :D
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who cares LOL
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Yeah....but which team has beaten the Cowboys TWICE in the Superbowl? Who\'s yo daddy now? :D
DOH!...:mad:...:p
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The Rooney\'s may be one of the best owners in the business. Who else would of stuck with their staff during those troublesome years? No one would of. Hell, I love my Colt\'s, but even the Colt\'s organization is scrambling to blame someone over their post-season failures. The Rooney\'s understand something about the game and that is a championship isn\'t won easy. A championship requires years of dedication to a staff. Stick with the right staff and you may just get there one day.
You can say whatever you want to about this superbowl....But here are a few things.
1: I\'m not a Steelers fan, but I can apperciate what a workhorse Jermone \'The Bus\' is. The Colt\'s didn\'t make it there, but I can certainly settle for see\'ing a future Hall-of-Famer goin\' out on such a high note.
2: I\'m glad to see Bill get the monkey off his back and the Rooney\'s get "one for the thumb".
3: Steelers won\'t repeat. They are losing the Bus and they have WAY to many free agents now.. All the more reason they needed to win it all this year.
Now, movin\' on into the off-season....We all know James will not be back for the Colt\'s and Shaun Alexander most likely will not return to the Seahawks. That\'s two great RB\'s on the market...Not to mention Randle El will also be a free agent and I doubt the Steelers can afford to sign him after the massive contract that Hines Ward struck.
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Yep. Steelers at this point are $4.5 million over the cap. Once Randle El is gone (among others), the Steelers will have to pick a good yet inexpensive replacement. That\'s the name of the game these days.
The Rooneys know about losing streaks. Hell, they went through 40+ years of losing streaks before they won their first Superbowl. With Cowher getting to the playoffs more consistenly than other coaches, why fire him? Winning at the playoff level and the Superbowl level is tough as hell. The Rooneys appreciate success, even if not exactly winning the Superbowl.
The Rooneys enjoy the game for what it is.
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i never cared for randle el, he\'s a whiner
they need to dump deuce too, and pick up a big back. haynes wont amount to much.
most of the free agents i can see sticking around. chance at another superbowl with a great team > slightly more money
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Randle El might get picked up by the Bears. I was hoping the Redskins would get him, since having only one good receiver, Santana Moss, is not enough.
Deuce? He played a few games this year but that was it. What\'s his injury again? For a big guy, he sure is delicate.
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It\'s looking like Randle El to The Bears is gonna happen.
I\'ll take him. We need someone to throw too besides Moose "droppings" Muhammed.
Heh, that\'s what they call him here... Moose Droppings.
funny!
You know who led the NFL in drops this year?
Yup.
Then you know who blamed the drops on the QB?
Yup.
Screw Moose.
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Originally posted by Luke
It\'s looking like Randle El to The Bears is gonna happen.
Man, I\'m glad it\'s not another team in the Steelers division. The Bengals and Ravens are going to be a huge factor next year. If the Browns pick up another talent, the Steelers might be in for a long ass beat down of a season.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Yep. Steelers at this point are $4.5 million over the cap. Once Randle El is gone (among others), the Steelers will have to pick a good yet inexpensive replacement. That\'s the name of the game these days.
The Rooneys know about losing streaks. Hell, they went through 40+ years of losing streaks before they won their first Superbowl. With Cowher getting to the playoffs more consistenly than other coaches, why fire him? Winning at the playoff level and the Superbowl level is tough as hell. The Rooneys appreciate success, even if not exactly winning the Superbowl.
The Rooneys enjoy the game for what it is.
I know what you are saying, but what I was saying is the fact that the Rooneys are one of the only owners that actually trust their staff to get there. The other organizations would jump ship in no time, look no further than Herman Edwards and the Jet\'s situation. Or hell, even the Colt\'s after the post season failure.
i never cared for randle el, he\'s a whiner
He\'s a hella player tho\'.
Originally posted by GmanJoe
Man, I\'m glad it\'s not another team in the Steelers division. The Bengals and Ravens are going to be a huge factor next year. If the Browns pick up another talent, the Steelers might be in for a long ass beat down of a season.
Bengal\'s won\'t be a factor next year. Palmer will come back, he won\'t be a 100 percent and they won\'t repeat. I think you could see the melt down happening before the Kimo shot to Palmer. Infact, I will go as far as to say, that C. Johnson will hold them back with his antics and ego, just like whomever picks up T.Owens will be held back in the longterm.
Originally posted by Luke
It\'s looking like Randle El to The Bears is gonna happen.
I\'ll take him. We need someone to throw too besides Moose "droppings" Muhammed.
Heh, that\'s what they call him here... Moose Droppings.
funny!
You know who led the NFL in drops this year?
Yup.
Then you know who blamed the drops on the QB?
Yup.
Screw Moose.
It certainly wouldn\'t hurt for them to pick him up. At this point, they need to add to that offense, espically in the wide receiver department.
most of the free agents i can see sticking around. chance at another superbowl with a great team > slightly more money
Maybe and maybe not. It all depends on who jumps ship. If a few good players jump ship, the rest will be smart enough to know it\'s goin\' to be another long rebuilding season. Those free agents know that their stock went up after they won that Superbowl.
Oh and one final quote, I stole this one from an ESPN article about the Seahawk\'s rally at home...
"We won in our hearts," said Horgan, 15. "We\'re still No. 1."
That\'s all that matters, sweetie. In my heart, I\'m the queen of friggin\' England.
:p
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wonder how this will turn out..
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2323121
theisman was alright..but surrounded by 2 of the stupidest old people..and he said "i talked to blah blah blah and he said blah blah blah" every time.
Think the black dude did MLB commentating and wasnt bad..but seemed more of an announcer that would do day-time games.
The white guy from pardon the interruption im skeptical about it. I love PTI, but i see this guy debating/joking around with the other guy more than commentating.
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I really like Kornheiser.
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MNF will suck.
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questions..
have they named whose doing sunday night football? is al michaels doing it?
did madden retire?
kinda confused with all the switching around
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I really like Kornheiser too. I think as a third guy in the booth, he could add a really interesting view. It\'s a little out of his element, but I like the choice. If nothing else, I\'ll be happy to see how it plays out.
And as for the other two, I like Tirico better than Theismann.
Where is Madden headed to?
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Where is Madden headed to?
the way him and al michaels were saying "its been fun" and stuff like that, it sounded like madden is done. But im not sure. Al michaels better be announcing somewhere..will just be weird its not on MNF.
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I know the Fox and CBS packages aren\'t changing, and NBC has Sunday night football, which they\'re gonna market more now. Could one of them be headed there?
Yeah, a quick google search answered that. Madden is gonna be with NBC. NBC wanted Michaels too, but it doesn\'t look like anything\'s done yet.
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Kornheiser was being looked at when they put Dennis Miller in the booth, but I like Theismann and Tirico is actually a pretty good play by play guy, here him all the time doing golf commentary and I want to say he\'s done hockey for espn too, not sure though, I like the line-up, anythings better than Madden!