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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Riku on September 14, 2005, 07:52:50 AM
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wow...
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the graphic looks average, but something is not right. Probably is the jaggies still present and quite noticeable. Maybe they haven\'t use any Anti-antializing...
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If they don\'t ask you to collect colored rubies and bones and gems and stars and acorns and tupperware, then I bet Rare churns out a winner here. They\'ve been working on it forever.
-Dan
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I like it. Xb360 game?
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Yep, it began life as a GameCube game. Hell I wouldn\'t be surprised if it was actually originally being made for N64...
-Dan
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That looks pretty cool
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Actually that doesnt look like next gen.I bet a top PC can do these graphics or atleast near them
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Actually that doesnt look like next gen.I bet a top PC can do these graphics or atleast near them
Rare hasn\'t turned on the AA yet in Kameo or Perfect Dark Zero. Kameo will be playable at TGS this weekend, and from those who have seen it first hand (IGN for example) said it really does look next gen. Difference of opinion I guess.
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The screens say otherwise but what these screens look like and what the actual thing will look like in playable form at the TGS might probably be 2 different things ;)
For now my judgement is on these screens only.But probably the real deal is a lot better as you said ;)
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Looks cool. I\'m sure the finished game will look different and running on an HDTV.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
The screens say otherwise but what these screens look like and what the actual thing will look like in playable form at the TGS might probably be 2 different things ;)
For now my judgement is on these screens only.But probably the real deal is a lot better as you said ;)
I don\'t know about a lot better, but then I\'m not seeing how the visuals displayed are even close to what\'s been shown for the current generation.
Gamecube:
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Xbox:
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Then you have the most recent pics of the Xbox 360 versions. There\'s no comparison, imo.
I don\'t think it\'s the best looking of the next gen titles I\'ve seen, but it\'s nice. Rare really never disappoints in the visual department, I only concerned with the gameplay.
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Nice to see a game that isn\'t going for a realistic look.
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i love it, not a game I would normally see myself playing but these visuals look great
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
If they don\'t ask you to collect colored rubies and bones and gems and stars and acorns and tupperware, then I bet Rare churns out a winner here. They\'ve been working on it forever.
-Dan
God that is so true. Rare has that problem, they think every single game should be a collect-a-thon.
As for the game looking "next gen", I would say it does just because of the detail. But then again, Rare always cranks out amazing visuals, just look at \'Star Fox Adventures\', a game that was early generation for the \'Cube and still looks amazing. To bad it played like crap.
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Originally posted by Riku
I don\'t know about a lot better, but then I\'m not seeing how the visuals displayed are even close to what\'s been shown for the current generation.
Gamecube:
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Xbox:
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Then you have the most recent pics of the Xbox 360 versions. There\'s no comparison, imo.
I don\'t think it\'s the best looking of the next gen titles I\'ve seen, but it\'s nice. Rare really never disappoints in the visual department, I only concerned with the gameplay.
Well compared to previous consoles it is but PCs arent far from that technology.I compared it to PCs.
XBOX360 can do better than that I am sure
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Well compared to previous consoles it is but PCs arent far from that technology.I compared it to PCs.
XBOX360 can do better than that I am sure
Well, PCs are constantly upgrading so it\'s expected to keep up with the consoles. If I read correctly we should have variants of the gpu\'s running Xbox 360 and PS3 no later than next year.
I\'m sure the Xbox 360 can do better, Kameo is after all a launch game, not to mention the developers received final dev kits no more than two weeks ago.
I still think it looks nice. :shrugs:
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This looks great. Certainly when taking in considering the fact that the game\'s code originate from Cube to Xbox.
Here at the studio we\'re busy on a Xbox360 Live ,cartoonly style game kind of like this style. But this Kameo is now very very polished with some very cool FX. I see the polycount has gotten a boost as well.
Good job Rare. Unfortunately , PD zero still looks mediocre imo.
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Originally posted by Riku
Well, PCs are constantly upgrading so it\'s expected to keep up with the consoles. If I read correctly we should have variants of the gpu\'s running Xbox 360 and PS3 no later than next year.
I\'m sure the Xbox 360 can do better, Kameo is after all a launch game, not to mention the developers received final dev kits no more than two weeks ago.
I still think it looks nice. :shrugs:
I didnt say it looks bad.Its just that I expected better visual quality compared to todays available standards judging from the quality of these pics.As I said the real deal might be better.This isnt my absolute idea of how this game is.
I am only saying that these pics are no indication of the quality of the real deal and I am not saying that this is XBOX360\'s fault either since it can do better than that.
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Originally posted by Knotter8
This looks great. Certainly when taking in considering the fact that the game\'s code originate from Cube to Xbox.
This is what has me worried about the gameplay.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
I didnt say it looks bad.Its just that I expected better visual quality compared to todays available standards judging from the quality of these pics.As I said the real deal might be better.This isnt my absolute idea of how this game is.
I am only saying that these pics are no indication of the quality of the real deal and I am not saying that this is XBOX360\'s fault either since it can do better than that.
uhh
you do know "next gen" consoles are pretty much the same as top of the line current gen pc\'s, right?
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I disagree
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k thx
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Originally posted by Soul Reaver
k thx
Disappointing...but you probably already know you\'d be wasting your time.
I\'m not a computer guy so I can\'t get into this argument, but ATi\'s R600 and Nvidia\'s 7800 (is that wrong?), variants of the R500 and RSX, will be out within the next year or so. The fact that we\'ll have graphics cards better than or at least equal to PS3 and Xbox 360 by next year should indicate that PC\'s aren\'t far behind.
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SLI 7800 (That\'s two cards) > 360\'s variation of the ATi\'s x800 GT and PS3\'s single 7800.
There are other matters to be applied, but it\'s fairly understood that you can build a PC better than any "next gen" system right now.
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Hmmm...this makes me wonder about the computer CPU though.
If you have top of the line motherboard and CPU, and top of the line graphic card. even if it does outperform XBOX360 or PS3. How much will this computer cost though?
XBOX360 and PS3 runs at 3.2 GHz CPU, while Computer are starting to get nearly 4 GHz and probably reach 4 GHz by the end of this year.
It\'s fair to compare console\'s CPU to computer\'s CPU? Will a 4 GHz computer outperform a 3.2 GHz console?
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Originally posted by Soul Reaver
SLI 7800 (That\'s two cards) > 360\'s variation of the ATi\'s x800 GT and PS3\'s single 7800.
There are other matters to be applied, but it\'s fairly understood that you can build a PC better than any "next gen" system right now.
Current cpu\'s vs Cell ?
Anyway, the comparison is futile becuz what pc developer is pushing such performance right now, let alone a finished game.
Also, you can always build a super computer \'now\' ; but at what cost and who\'s making games for it that take advantage to the fullest of that hardware ????
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we are not comparing costs here. just performance.
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We arent supposed to see an available game exploiting enough the capabilities of an unaffordable super PC to show the same results of an unreleased next gen console so soon.