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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Avatarr on September 15, 2005, 08:04:05 PM
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... is fucking shit.
I was all hot and sweaty about something new and wowzie, but the damn thing turns out to be a fucking remote control? GO TO HELL AND DIE IWATA YOU OLD ARROGANT FART!
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000297059059/
http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000920059057/
what a huge pile of bullshit. FUCK. SO MAD!
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Yea, I am really worried about that shit.
So many problems.
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If I weren\'t so pissed off right now I\'d probably say this has potential to make light sabre combat really kewl. It\'s unfortunate the showcase demonstration they chose was FUCKING FISHING!! STABBBBBBBBBB IWATA!!!!
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You can still use the original GC controller.
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ah yes, I was wondering how they\'d manage GC compatibility with that monstrosity.
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It\'s motion sensitive huh? I bet it\'ll actually turn out pretty cool when it\'s used to its potential.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651275p2.html
http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651320p1.html
Kinda like this quote:
Controller acts like a mouse in real-space 3D. Pefect for FPS games!
edit- and we have a teaser:
http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vid_1249127.html
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You know what\'s perfect for FPS games?
Mouse and Keyboard.
A fucking x360 controller seems better suited for FPS than that.
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http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2005/09/16/443527.html
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^ I posted it first. :p nahanhanhanhanhanahnah!!!
That video looks great, I\'m sure in a year\'s time you guys will be looking back at this thread and saying, "Man THX is one sexy b!tch."
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Man THX is one god i hate you die sexy bitch
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Man it\'s funny, on another site (home theater site full of old people) they are complaining that they\'ll get too tired using this thing.
Kids play videogames too, I\'m sure they\'ll love this new gizmo. Plus there are a lot of fatty gamers so this time you can eat your pizza while playing Mario and not feel guilty.
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Yea, this will be a hit for fat people.
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Originally posted by Soul Reaver
Yea, this will be a hit for fat people.
Oh so you like to stay up late too huh?
rest assured, when PS3 goes online you will be the first person I annihilate in super mario
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Originally posted by THX
Oh so you like to stay up late too huh?
rest assured, when PS3 goes online you will be the first person I annihilate in super mario
man I lost you at that post, but yea ok.
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Like all Nintendo innovations, I feel like we\'re really gonna have to try it before we have any idea.
Gonna be interesting for third party development though.
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omg that video loaded purdy slow, but that thing\'s got me convinced. I\'m not too worried about getting tired swinging the thing about because I do that anyway. >_< At least now the movement is actually being used as input. Yayness.
I think I predicted this too. I told you I was a gaming prophet. Now all they need to do is release my lightgun idea. :}
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Dial-up right?
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Nah IGN is getting hit like crazy.
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AHH DONT EVEN SAY THAT WORD! I\'VE BEEN ON BROADBAND FOR ALMOST A FULL YEAR NOW! and I meant that norwegian (or whatever) video.
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Loaded instantly for me. Although all of the Penny Arcade forum members are probably looking at it right now.
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Looks... interesting at least. Like the old geezers I\'m worried about having to wave a thing around in the air for extended periods of time. Hell, my fingers start hurting when playing Tekken. :laughing:
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Way to go Nintendo
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Hey since you didnt take the thing in your hands you cant judge.Looks weird but it could be a great controller.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Hey since you didnt take the thing in your hands you cant judge.
That\'s what I tell all the girls.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Like all Nintendo innovations, I feel like we\'re really gonna have to try it before we have any idea.
Gonna be interesting for third party development though.
...I usually agree, but I just don\'t know. I have a feeling that the launch titles by a first and second party developer will be interesting, but this controller will stifle any third party development what so ever..
It\'s a revolution, yes, I\'m just not sure I want part of it..I\'m so..confused at this point about it.
I\'m also confused as to why they have not showed any demo\'s of actual games or even the system itself. It\'s now obvious the focus point will be the controller, which is kind of odd.
What about Mario? Zelda? We know Miyamoto said this is the last Zelda game as we "know it". How do they plan on reinventing the wheel ? It will have to do with the controller, that is for sure. What about Mario? I don\'t see how this can work for a platform game. What about racing games? Or better yet - what about sports and fighting games? Games that require more than simple motions and two buttons...God, it\'s so confusing.
....Mark me confused...Scared...
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Wow.
At first I hated it.
Then I read some applications, even making Mario jump by moving it and kind of thought that it could be worth trying first.
But I agree with the third party thing. How the fuck is Madden going on there? Or a fighting game?
I just don\'t know, I hope they do a Cube 2 controller a la Dual Shock 2.
Man, I don\'t know what to make of this...
-Dan
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i guess nintendo loves 3d place
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Point taken... Nintendo is really throwing the dice on this one..
-Dan
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what do they have to lose... definately not marketshare :laughing:
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This isn\'t much, but a few big players are putting out some positive spin.
While EA is into baseball I guess, I wonder how it will do Madden, I really do.
And fighting games... THQ likes it, but wrestling games? I have to see how many buttons are on this thing, and understand that we can hold two at once...
THQ
"Nintendo has long been a trailblazer, and this controller design reinforces that reputation," said Brian Farrell, president and CEO of THQ. "We enthusiastically support Nintendo\'s next console because we believe their approach of continual innovation is very much in line with our own strategy of creating unique and innovative games for the next generation of hardware."
Activision
"What we\'re seeing from this controller is the same thing we saw with Nintendo DS," said Chuck Huebner, Head of Worldwide Studios, Activision, Inc. "It\'s a system that\'s designed with an eye on enticing new players to the video game industry, and that\'s something we firmly support."
EA
"Game control is essential – it\'s the area where perhaps the most game-play improvement can be made," said John Schappert, Sr. Vice President and General Manager of Electronic Arts Canada. "While our portfolio represents a full array of titles across all genres, I think our sports titles might be the first to immediately take advantage of what this novel \'freehand\' type of control has to offer."
Ubisoft
"We were among the first publishers to see the control design in action," said Serge Hascoet, Chief Creative Officer of Ubisoft. "We\'re excited about the new controller and are looking forward to taking advantage of its innovative aspects."
-Dan
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I think the very fact they are banking on the fact you can use the NGC is proof that they know there is no way to use this in practical way to use it for a fighting game or sports game.
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That\'s a good point. In that respect, maybe this will be ok... I\'m buying it anyway. I\'ll go down with the ship when that day comes. ;]
-Dan
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
That\'s a good point. In that respect, maybe this will be ok... I\'m buying it anyway. I\'ll go down with the ship when that day comes. ;]
-Dan
Know the feeling. I went down on the Sega ship back in the day....
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2d fighting games would probably be done using the GC controller. but I think it\'d be quite easy to do nextgen fighting games with this gimmik:
*use dpad to move 4ward, backward, jump, crouch
*or if you don\'t want to use the dpad, use the potato.. although it really looks more like a turnip doesn\'t it.
*hold down a and swing to do a punch
*hold down b and swing to do a kick
*strength of punch/kick dependent on how hard you swing
*do special moves based on how you move the remote control
easy! ^_^
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Originally posted by Samwise
That\'s what I tell all the girls.
:laughing: :laughing:
I bet thats what you call all lil\' boys :p
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rob the robot just turned over in his grave
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Nintendo\'s totally glomming innovation ideas from Apple now, too. The controller looks like an iPod for instance, and the design/colors of the Revolution itself is reminiscent of Apple products.
That\'s an interesting allusion as Nintendo continues to go head-to-head with Microsoft...
-Dan
//Power glove
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Yeah I\'m just looking forward to something different. This gen was just a prettier version of last gen and Xbox360 and PS3 aren\'t trying to do anything to change that.
I have good hands so actual being able to move that won\'t be a problem and the first party games are surely going to be an original experience. Fuck 3rd parties. There\'s only a couple of good ones and those like Capcom will most likely develop games for it too. I don\'t play a system based on which has sold the most units either.
Here\'s to Nintendo "losing" the next race.
Being able to swing Link\'s sword omg drule.
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But in reality you will be swinging a freaking remote control looking like a total idiot.
How fucking cool is that?
I mean....you ll be locked in your room so no one would see you playing the Revolution :p
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I\'ll make my point, and I\'ll make it bluntly.
When I first saw it, I was very skeptical.
After hearing of its demonstrations and uses, I\'m somewhat hyped.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
But in reality you will be swinging a freaking remote control looking like a total idiot.
Only in the eyes of the ignorant
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You cant even make a joke in here
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People think I\'m retarded anyway. :D
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Originally posted by Unicron!
You cant even make a joke in here
Is english your second language or do you just have severe mental diffects preventing you from seeing what right infront you?
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Second
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Link (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782)
Ok. Range 10-15 feet? There\'s a problem.
Uses batteries (non rechargable, as of now)? There\'s a bigger problem.
Precision and speed of this setup? The biggest problem.
I\'m not saying it won\'t work, because quite frankly Nintendo has startled us before with way-out-there ideas. But this to me seems to have some serious issues to overcome. It\'s like they remembered the powerglove, and wanted to bring back that idea.
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wait.....it uses batteries?
:omg:
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Originally posted by Blade
I\'ll make my point, and I\'ll make it bluntly.
When I first saw it, I was very skeptical.
After hearing of its demonstrations and uses, I\'m somewhat hyped.
Ditto
Frankly I can\'t wait to try it out.
Best case scenario for Nintendo is that it actually DOES intrigue non/ex-gamers. Giving them a significant boost in marketshare.
Iwata talked about MUCH cheaper development in his keynote and that is a BIG point of emphasis. This is a business, afterall and many developers could make a Revolution game or two just to test the waters. If I\'m a bug time publisher dropping $20 million and using 100+ people to make my latest X360/PS3 game, I am definately intrigued by the prospect of spending a fraction of that with a fraction of the manpower to make a game on Nintendo\'s latest.
No one expected the PSX to dominate the N64 last generation and I really wouldn\'t be surprised if I heard that five years from now the Nintendo "Revolution" was a smash hit. With the right software and marketing they could be sitting on a monster with the potential of greatly expanding the console gaming market.
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This is like the best of both worlds, for FPS, as far as I\'m concerned.
BTW, I remember thinking how dumb the DS was at first sight and it ended up being the first handheld system I ever bought. That is saying something.
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Good points there
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I NEBER THOUGHT THE DS WAS DUMB!
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That\'s a shame about the batteries. If they can get life out of them like the Wavebird or throw in a rechargeable battery a la SP or DS, then they\'ll be good.
Nintendo\'s ranges are always conservative. They low balled Wavebird but the fact is you could leave your house and cross the street or some shit, heh.
-Dan
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Excuse me but the battery and other issues arent about to be dealt?
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I\'m really excited about this controller. Think it looks really crap... but it is going to be something that is worthwhile, I think. First Person Games are going to be so cool... for all those guys that always say "Nothing can beat a mouse and Keyboard. They only have a digital arrow to move forward and backwards, this has anologue depth and the remote control will be very precise control for games like that.... just hope that no one bumps you when playing :p
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lol, analog depth?
mouse + KB > *
there\'s no other practical way
anyways, all nintendo has to do is make the catalog of old downloadable games absolutely free and i\'ll be in line to buy a revolution
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... ... ...
I\'m a little disappointed, but interested. That is all.
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There will be a fee, mm.
The controller... if it looks cheap its going to be even worse. They have to make it look stylish and not goofy in their advertising if they want it to have a broad appeal. And Nintendo sucks at advertising, i.e. old people and little children being shown using it... My opinion, even if I know what they\'re trying to portray.
-Dan
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Hearing this, I\'m totally onboard. Nintendo has free reign to pull whatever gimmicky shit they want to with their controller and third parties can be traditional or experiment a la DS as they wish.
Jim Merrick: We\'re producing a classic-style expansion controller, based on traditional designs like the Gamecube controller. It\'s like a shell with a hole in the top into which you slot the freehand-style controller, and then you can play third-party ported games, and retro Nintendo games you\'ve downloaded.
So there\'s that option - but even while it\'s inserted into the classic-style shell, the freehand controller will still be able to sense positioning and so on, so there are more options too.
-Dan
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Originally posted by mm
lol, analog depth?
mouse + KB > *
there\'s no other practical way
anyways, all nintendo has to do is make the catalog of old downloadable games absolutely free and i\'ll be in line to buy a revolution
Hey man chance give it chance will ya?I hear good things about the controller from people that tested it and we havent tested it yet.
There is a good chance it might work well with FPS.And even if it doesnt it will work perfectly with other original and creative games that a mouse + KB or a 360/PS3 controller wont work well with
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yeah if they sell the system with 2 controllers they are set
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chance? they\'ve used thier chances up.
i wanted innovation, not a gimmick
one handed controller? already done
floating mouse? already done
There will be a fee, mm.
fuck that
emu\'s ftw
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EMULATORS IN USE WITH ROMS IS ILLEGAL LAWL.
Cmon swinging Link\'s sword sounds promising.
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I told my dad about it and he said, "Can you swing a golf club with it? Cause that was always stupid."
If I brought in a golf game or baseball game, he\'d try it... Certainly wouldn\'t buy one, but... hmm...
-Dan
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Originally posted by mm
chance? they\'ve used thier chances up.
i wanted innovation, not a gimmick
one handed controller? already done
floating mouse? already done
fuck that
emu\'s ftw
Two handed actually if you add the second "Device" on it.Actually different kinds of parts can be attached to it for a different experience.
Its the combination and the way you can use both that might be "revolutionary".Never seen such interface in games.Have you?
Think of the possibilities.
I am not extremely impressed either but since I havent seen it in action on a Revolution title making Nintendo\'s original gameplay ideas known ot public yet, I prefer to wait than jump so fast to conclusions.
Ofcourse this controller will be a disaster if you cant use a GC like controller on it.
But we should wait and see
edit: oh and ahm......Jumpman is right emulators r teh illegal ;)
Someone ban mm!:p
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http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651301p1.html
http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651224p1.html
3D Pointing: Sensors understand up, down, left, right, forward and backward.
Tilt Sensitive: Controller can be rotated or rolled from side-to-side.
Buttons Included: Has a trigger on its backside, face buttons, and a D-Pad.
Multifunctional: Has an expansion port which can be used with different types of controller peripherals. Analog stick with two trigger buttons planned for left hand.
remote control and floating mouse only on the surface if you ask me
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actually emulators are legal
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also, downloading roms is legal too, but only for educational purposes. :}
I don\'t think it\'s a gimmik anymore
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mousedown/revo.swf
:D :D :D:D
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If next gen means the same games with a facelift... meh. If it means swinging Link\'s sword, I know where my money\'s going.
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OMG, just imagine the possibilities... you\'d control Link\'s normal body movements with the left analog while the rest gives you full control of the sword along with force feedback. Or hook up two to each other, and control both the shield and the sword... don\'t know how you\'d move, but that\'s up to Miyamoto to figure out. Or think of flight sims... the controller truly becomes the flight stick (or whatever you call it). Or FPS... perfectly precise aiming. Endless possibilities. Nintendo\'s incessant Mario milking had really sapped all the fanboyism I once had for them but... now I know where all that brainpower was spent.
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use the DPad to move, duh. and you don\'t have to hook them together if you\'re using two of the base control units. but I guess you\'d use up two control ports, if that\'s the right thing to call them.
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O yea, the D-pad. But I tell ya, it\'s gonna be hectic as hell simultaneously using one hand for the sword, the other hand for the shield, and a thumb to move as you try to run all over the place to dodge, attack, crouch, and flip. But whatever, that\'s what brains are for.
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mock up
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that looks like a penis....
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Originally posted by mm
i guess nintendo loves 3d place
And this controller will help them keep their beloved 3rd place.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
that looks like a penis....
Just the way Jumpman likes it. Remember, he\'s very keen on swinging Link\'s \'sword\'. :sconf:
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Will that thing be icnluded with the console?
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More ideas
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I am starting to show more interest
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Hey the light gun one could make Avatars idea about FPS a reality :)
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wow, look at all the accesories you can buy
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Hey the light gun one could make Avatars idea about FPS a reality :)
lol, only this thing isn\'t a lightgun. still, I told you I was a gaming prophet. ^_^
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Originally posted by Clyde
wow, look at all the accesories you can buy
wow, look at all the dumb chimps who didn\'t notice they were mock ups
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...how did you evolve from my species without common sense?
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Originally posted by Clyde
wow, look at all the accesories you can buy
please show me where nintendo ever said this, otherwise, continue to asssist your mother in picking flies off your head
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Originally posted by Avatarr
lol, only this thing isn\'t a lightgun. still, I told you I was a gaming prophet. ^_^
:thumb:
Originally posted by Clyde
...how did you evolve from my species without common sense?
hey look I can buy a cheap accesory and turn my Rev controlller into almost ANYTHING instead of paying more to own an expensive steering weel, a light gun or whatever.
Even someone who cant afford to buy expensive devices might enjoy a rich gaming experience.A move forward to socialism.
Ofcourse chimps dont care.They dont use money.Either they live in a jungle or they are locked in a cage.
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A move forward to socialism.
YES COMRADE! VIVA LA REVOLUSION!
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VIVA! (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.habanaelegante.com%2FSummer99%2Fche.gif&hash=e4fdb4cdcc5be9f8359d98c6d26be568915f2833) :p
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The very idea of "add-on" controllers is stupid beyond belief.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The very idea of "add-on" controllers is stupid beyond belief.
I didn\'t thought about it but you actually have a good point there. Add-on accesories to controller mean more $$$.
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LiC: Why are add-ons stupid?
The steering wheel possibility is certainly useful.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The very idea of "add-on" controllers is stupid beyond belief.
These contoller add-ons will just be the light guns and steering wheels for the Revolution. They are not required to play the games, so I don\'t see what your beef with them is. Besides, they offer a great financial advantage for Rev users; because these attachable guns and wheels are not separate, self-contained controllers, they will be much cheaper than their counterparts for other consoles.
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The steering wheel concept is cool looking but pointless. Because it just uses the motion sensor, the wheel part does nothing. You could tape it to a Frisbee and have the same steering wheel effect...
They are neat ideas, though.
-Dan
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Originally posted by Blade
LiC: Why are add-ons stupid?
The steering wheel possibility is certainly useful.
1: The idea of addons reaks of a cheap way to get profit.
2:If the whole idea is you can buy addons for a game, i.e a shell controller for Mario or a steering wheel for racing, then there is nothing really that amazing about the core controller./
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Now when I get pissed off and throw the controller cool things will happen on the screen.
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if these addons cost as much as a few bucks who cares?They might even be sold with the game.
Not to mention that most games will require as much as the add on that makes the Revolution controller like the traditional controllers(or not at all)
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Originally posted by Unicron!
if these addons cost as much as a few bucks who cares?They might even be sold with the game.
Not to mention that most games will require as much as the add on that makes the Revolution controller like the traditional controllers(or not at all)
A few bucks? Who cares? That is the problem with you typical consumers. They give you shit, charge you a few bucks and you go "who cares?".
And if the games require an "add-on", then that does away with this big revolution, now doesn\'t it? It just makes the controller a central hub for crap-ass add-ons, that will clog up your closet ala Steel Battlion or the Super Scope.
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Typical consumer?Yeah probably typical consumers like me are the problem unlike some others that will pay more for a stand alone light gun, a steering wheel or who knows what else they will use for only a game or two and then put them in a closet taking more space than these smaller pieces of plastic.
Oh lets not forget:
The tons of unneded functionalities some people are complaining about because they dont have to do much with improving gaming(XBOX360, and probably PS3).
Also typical consumers that wont be paying more fore graphics instead for different gameplay experience are the problem.
Revolution is supposed to be cheaper.Stupid typical consumers will pay less.
And like how many games will need add ons?Oh you dont know yet.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Typical consumer?Yeah probably typical consumers like me are the problem unlike some others that will pay more for a stand alone light gun, a steering wheel or who knows what else they will use for only a game or two and then put them in a closet taking more space than these smaller pieces of plastic.
Oh lets not forget:
The tons of unneded functionalities some people are complaining about because they dont have to do much with improving gaming(XBOX360, and probably PS3).
Also typical consumers that wont be paying more fore graphics instead for different gameplay experience are the problem.
Revolution is supposed to be cheaper.Stupid typical consumers will pay less.
And like how many games will need add ons?Oh you dont know yet.
You\'re a damn idiot who talks in circles.
I\'m sorry if this is rocket science to you, let me break it down.
1: The base controller is not really functional for most games. Nintendo knows this - so what do they do? They add NGC ports to it and they also allow add-on controllers to hook up to it. What is the point of making a controller that is not functional all around? There isn\'t! It\'s a cheap way to get more money out of the consumer....Hey - want to play a racing game and enjoy it? Buy our stupid steering wheel add-on, that does nothing but make it abit more comfortable for playing style (due to the fact that the core controller is the motion sensor!).
Let\'s not mention that this controller will KILL third party development. Need proof? Ever since the N64 design, Nintendo has had problems with third party games using the controllers to their fullest extent. It happened with the N64 and it\'s \'C\' buttons, the NGC it was due to lack of buttons and now this..Well, this presents so many problems for the third party developers that it is sad.
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LIC, I don\'t think Nintendo is really too fussed about old things not working on this new stick. They want people to make new games specifically for the new controller, but it seems like you think that this new controller can\'t handle games of the same type. You can\'t make a direct port of old games because the input mechanism is fundamentally different, but it doesn\'t mean you can\'t make new games of the same type.
EXAMPLEES:
fighitng - I gave an example of how this could be done in previous posts
driving - twist for steering, tilt for throttle
fps - people are having orgasms because this new system is 300 times better than dual analog sticks.
And don\'t foget to think about new gneres this new controller would be able to spawn. If you ignore stupid things like cooking or fly swatting games, you end up with the kewl things like SWORD FIGHTING GAMES. Like I\'ve said numerous times before, I so can\'t wait for the first jedi game to come out for this.
Really, it\'s purdy stupid to assume this is just a gimmic so they can sell more controllers. That option is there for GC backward compatibility. Nintendo is going to discourage developers of new games from using the old way of playing.
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I disagree 200 percent. This, if anything limits the genres. How are you goin\' to do a fireball? What about sports games? How do I make a tackle? The controller will limit almost any third party developer and the only games worth noting will be a first party game, like always when it comes to Nintendo\'s systems.
Iwata addressed concerns people might have about playing retro games on the Revolution\'s new controller through its virtual console backwards compatibility, saying that classic-styled expansion controllers would be available so people could enjoy the games as they originally remembered them.
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-15143-2569-4-6-x
Yes, that doesn\'t reak of a money machine, now does it?
:rolleyes:
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ah, maybe you\'re getting closed minded in your old age.
fireball: half u motion in the air plus a, speed or maybe the size of your half u motion determines which punch level it is.
tackle: FUCKING GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY REAL FOOTBALL AND STOP PLAYING SPORTS VIDEO GAMES THATS HOW! but if you don\'t like that option, you can guide your player to his target to get him in position and when he\'s primed, you do a sudden flick motion towards the target.
Really, you can do just about anything with the new controller. You just have to stop thinking about buttons. That\'s why it doesn\'t have buttons!
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fireball: half u motion in the air plus a, speed or maybe the size of your half u motion determines which punch level it is.
And that won\'t be clumsy at all, right? Oh come on, give me a break. You mean to tell me that this controller will allow me to do perfect chain combo\'s and throw in a super move in the end? Yeah right!
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Iwata addressed concerns people might have about playing retro games on the Revolution\'s new controller through its virtual console backwards compatibility, saying that classic-styled expansion controllers would be available so people could enjoy the games as they originally remembered them.
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-15143-2569-4-6-x
it only says it\'s for backwards compatibility, which is exactly what I said. he didn\'t say it was another option so 3rd party developers can ignore the new controller. in fact, nintendo is going to discourage that very strongly.
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Fact is, they are adding backwards compatibility and then knowing that the controller won\'t be worth shit, saying hey, what not buy our classic-styled expansion...
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
And that won\'t be clumsy at all, right? Oh come on, give me a break. You mean to tell me that this controller will allow me to do perfect chain combo\'s and throw in a super move in the end? Yeah right!
Hey, just try it. Unless you\'ve got some degenerative disease that eats away at your muscles or nerve endings, doing these things in the air is a sinch. You might have an aversion to looking retarded, so you might hesitate, but just shut your blinds and lock your door. ^_^
Really, I\'m doing it now. Easy!
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Fact is, they are adding backwards compatibility and then knowing that the controller won\'t be worth shit, saying hey, what not buy our classic-styled expansion...
no, that\'s what you think but that\'s not what\'s actually happening. you have no evidence to say this is happening and certainly you can\'t even claim that this is likely to happen because NINTENDO IS GOING TO DISCOURAGE THAT AND THEY CAN TELL A DEVELOPER TO FUCK OFF FROM THEIR PLATFORM IF THEY DON\'T LISTEN.
and umm.. this thread is turning into spaghetty, maybe we should wait a bit before replying, cuz you very well could be composing a reply to my previous post and by the time I post this, it\'ll already have been posted and then I\'ll have to reply to that. messy.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
You\'re a damn idiot who talks in circles.
I\'m sorry if this is rocket science to you, let me break it down.
1: The base controller is not really functional for most games. Nintendo knows this - so what do they do? They add NGC ports to it and they also allow add-on controllers to hook up to it. What is the point of making a controller that is not functional all around? There isn\'t! It\'s a cheap way to get more money out of the consumer....Hey - want to play a racing game and enjoy it? Buy our stupid steering wheel add-on, that does nothing but make it abit more comfortable for playing style (due to the fact that the core controller is the motion sensor!).
Let\'s not mention that this controller will KILL third party development. Need proof? Ever since the N64 design, Nintendo has had problems with third party games using the controllers to their fullest extent. It happened with the N64 and it\'s \'C\' buttons, the NGC it was due to lack of buttons and now this..Well, this presents so many problems for the third party developers that it is sad.
You didnt get the irony in my post as usual.
Too bad.
I ll say two words: Opportunity cost.
The consumer will pay only a few extra bucks ONLY IF he wants too for only a few games on a console that as a total will be cheaper and offer a whole new gaming experience.
These add-ons arent necessary.The only thing most gamers will probably feel like needing is this: (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcubemedia.ign.com%2Fcube%2Fimage%2Fitem%2F278%2F2782353%2Fcube_revocontrol_091605_thu.jpg&hash=19e2a5dcadc9b225e002f27dae472be67474ba90)
And this may be included with the hardware too.
You didnt need a light gun to play Time Crisis or House of the Dead on previous consoles and you didnt need a steering wheel to play racing games.But if you wanted to enjoy these games fully you had to pay MORE for a lightgun or a steering wheel.
This time around you will pay a lot less ONLY IF YOU WANT TO for a piece that will take less room and give the same enjoyment (and who knows even more enjoyment) the bigger accessories offered with more money.
Your typical logic is largely flawed.
The real deal is this:
The consumer is paying less as a total for a different gaming experience other consoles wont be offering as well as paying less for the same experience the other consoles will be offering.
The revolution is generally a more affordable and cheaper console that offers great gaming oportunities.
So generally it wont cost much for the consumer.Actually the consumer may find the Revolution more attractive because of its affordability and different experience.And that with a huge difference.
All you do is bitch.
You complained how "unoriginal gaming" is with lack of new ideas and now you complain because the Revolution\'s main controller isnt good for stereotyped, unoriginal, rehashed games? Jesus!
Since it might offer original gaming experience and at the same time a solution for your second complain there is no excuse in your bitching.
That one "add-on" will cost less to pay with the Revolution than a brand new PS3/XBOX360 with only one controller that will ofer an evolution instead of something different.
Oh oh the revolution will also offer tons of games to download for FREE
But I know what you need.You dont need videogames.
You need some bitch slapping on the face.
That will bring you back to your senses.
Guaranteed!
AND FOR FREE!
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I will pay for this stuff for the same reason I bought a wireless pad and bongo drums this gen. And I\'ll do it happily.
What I won\'t do (and am not doing) happily is fork over close to $500 to play a pretty sequel to a shooting game I grew tired of on the N64.
Nintendo = teh win
-Dan
//Oh and um, the download service won\'t be free. They nixed that idea a while ago. Cheap? Probably. Free? Don\'t count on it.
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//Oh and um, the download service won\'t be free. They nixed that idea a while ago. Cheap? Probably. Free? Don\'t count on it. [/B]
Heh ok.Didnt know that.But I am still offering my bitch slapping services for my friend LIC for free
Originally posted by Eiksirf
I will pay for this stuff for the same reason I bought a wireless pad and bongo drums this gen. And I\'ll do it happily.
What I won\'t do (and am not doing) happily is fork over close to $500 to play a pretty sequel to a shooting game I grew tired of on the N64.
Nintendo = teh win
Exactly my point
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nevermind, I\'m an idiot. :X :X
(I thought I had the 666th reply, but I soon realised this thread is too small for that and I was in fact looking at the viewcount.)
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I remember black and white and the spell system, move the mouse curser in a specific motion to do a spell. I also remember how GOD DAMN FRUSTRATING it was. Nintendo better have this thing PERFECT or its going to be more trouble than its worth.
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This controller will be great for first party games and suck for every third party developer.
You go nintendo
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I\'m sure every third party appreciates you speaking for them.
You go.
-Dan
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if the remote has rumble i wonder if woman will use it as vibrators
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it\'s almost certain that you will
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we can share, mm