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Title: I preordered Xbox 360
Post by: Animal Mother on October 02, 2005, 05:33:45 PM: I am a hardcore gamer, and i preordered the Xbox 360. at this time in my life, i can afford it, and the playstation 3 at launch. Maybe the Revolution. I plan on getting Condemned: Criminal Origins. This game looks alot like Silent Hill. and Perfect Dark Zero, and maybe Kameo. The HD output of the 360 is most appealing, because i recently got a 36\' Sharp Aquous LCD tv. I cant wait for all the next gen consoles to come out.
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Post by: mm on October 02, 2005, 05:43:02 PM: waiting for the HD-DVD version, myself
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 02, 2005, 06:03:24 PM: *yawn*

Wake me when either company has exciting launch titles..
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Post by: THX on October 02, 2005, 09:03:37 PM: Seriously, the only console I can contemplate on getting at launch is the Revolution, and that\'s because a Mario game is usually available.
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Post by: Avatarr on October 02, 2005, 10:08:28 PM: and it comes free with a vibrator
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Post by: Blade on October 03, 2005, 05:50:47 AM: There are some exciting launch titles, IMO.

It doesn\'t mean I\'m getting it, though..
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Post by: Eiksirf on October 03, 2005, 06:50:15 AM: I wonder if Condemned will be worthwhile, I remember reading about that a while ago but forgot all about it. That\'s a Sega game right? (Not that that means much anymore..)

-Dan
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Post by: Blade on October 03, 2005, 08:22:08 AM: Seriously, Eik! Sega\'s credibility has fallen through the floor in 4 years.
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Post by: ddaryl on October 04, 2005, 09:01:42 AM: I find the launch for XBox 360 to be ho hum at it\'s best

Does anyone have the latest list of launch titles that are 100% guarenteed to be there for launch ??
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 04, 2005, 10:26:15 AM: i read somewhere that gates was waiting for the release of ps3 to put halo 3 on the shelf. I should probably find the link but..o well.
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Post by: Eiksirf on October 04, 2005, 10:56:41 AM: Yea, he said that. He was just blowing smoke unless the team at Bungie is way ahead of schedule, which they aren\'t.

It\'ll either be ready by PS3 launch or it won\'t, but it\'s not guaranteed, in my opinion.

-Dan
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Post by: Evi on October 04, 2005, 09:46:49 PM: Quote
i read somewhere that gates was waiting for the release of ps3 to put halo 3 on the shelf. I should probably find the link but..o well.
Yeah...Billy Boy said that...and then Bungie came out and stated otherwise. So we dunno wtf will happen.
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 04, 2005, 09:59:38 PM: The whole notion of trying to offset the Sony launch by releasing one single game is ignorant. Sony tried this same crap with FF8 when the DC launched on 9 /9 / 99. Guess what? No one cared, i anything it hurt sells for the game....
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Post by: Evi on October 04, 2005, 10:05:02 PM: Quote
The whole notion of trying to offset the Sony launch by releasing one single game is ignorant.
Agreed. 1 game versus BIG console launch = stupid.
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Post by: Avatarr on October 04, 2005, 10:18:01 PM: Quote
No one cared, i anything it hurt sells for the game....

wtf? are you stoned?
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 05, 2005, 03:26:13 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Avatarr
wtf? are you stoned?

Are you goin\' to tell me that the game debut sales didn\'t suffer due to the DC launch? I can\'t believe that. Sure, the Sony fanboys bought it, but for most gamers the highlight of that day was the DC and that is where their money went.
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Post by: mm on October 05, 2005, 03:52:19 AM: how do sony fanboys have anything to do with FF8 sales?
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Post by: Paul2 on October 05, 2005, 04:03:34 AM: i remember buying FF8 back in oct/nov 1999. I also remember seeing DC launch in 1999 when I just started a few days of my sophomore year in high school. But I didn\'t thought about it that time that FF8 purposedly launch on September 1999 as to draw crowds away from Sega DC. Until you guys mention it and you have a point there.

Either way, even if FF8 wasn\'t launch on that day, i still won\'t buy DC. Years later, I remember DC was selling for only $50, but i still didn\'t buy it because I guess what games will make me interested in getting a DC anyway? The graphic is superior than PSOne which probably drop their price down to $50 around that time too. But unfortunatedly, I didn\'t even get one even though its very cheap for a console.
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 05, 2005, 04:08:06 AM: Quote
Originally posted by mm
how do sony fanboys have anything to do with FF8 sales?

It was a comment made in jest. I was simply saying that most of the FF8 sales was by people who had no interest in the DC. People who had interest in the DC was spending money on the DC that day.

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Originally posted by Paul2
i remember buying FF8 back in oct/nov 1999. I also remember seeing DC launch in 1999 when I just started a few days of my sophomore year in high school. But I didn\'t thought about it that time that FF8 purposedly launch on September 1999 as to draw crowds away from Sega DC. Until you guys mention it and you have a point there.

Either way, even if FF8 wasn\'t launch on that day, i still won\'t buy DC. Years later, I remember DC was selling for only $50, but i still didn\'t buy it because I guess what games will make me interested in getting a DC anyway? The graphic is superior than PSOne which probably drop their price down to $50 around that time too. But unfortunatedly, I didn\'t even get one even though its very cheap for a console.

And I have no clue what the hell he just said.
Title: I preordered Xbox 360
Post by: Paul2 on October 05, 2005, 04:15:32 AM: what i said was that I have no interested in getting a DC because it doesn\'t have the games I like, unlike PS2 where Sony knows how to hype it up and lure buyers like me to get one as soon as possible. It have features that really got me interested such as backward compatible with PSOne games, DVD playback and lastly but not least, the hype emotion engine and graphic synthesizer.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 05, 2005, 04:31:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
It was a comment made in jest. I was simply saying that most of the FF8 sales was by people who had no interest in the DC. People who had interest in the DC was spending money on the DC that day.
Sony planned to hit DC with FF8 obviously but I dont think the DC hurt FF8\'s sales or FF8 hurt DC\'s sales.

Many people who could afford easily both bought both.A happy PS owner who was interested on the DC cared for FF8 too.It had nothing to do with fanboyism or anything.

Nobody can jump to such conclusions and be sure about them.A PS owner who bought FF8 but not a DC didnt necessarily mean that he wasnt planning to purchase a DC in the future.

FF8 was supposed to be an AAA title and it was usual to expect people to buy it when it was released for their already purchased console.Especially when considering that PS had built a userbase of millions of gamers that wanted to get the best as possible for their already purchased console.

Most people that bought FF8 were already PS owners.They didnt buy a PS with FF8 while DC was available.The latter were few.

You cant say "people bought FF8 instead of a DC".The appearance of a new console doesnt reduce people\'s interest on games for their previous console.They can have interest on both
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Post by: Avatarr on October 05, 2005, 04:39:26 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Are you goin\' to tell me that the game debut sales didn\'t suffer due to the DC launch? I can\'t believe that. Sure, the Sony fanboys bought it, but for most gamers the highlight of that day was the DC and that is where their money went.

lol, I\'m trying to tell you that you don\'t make any sense, wtf is:

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i anything it hurt sells for the game

?!?!
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Post by: Evi on October 05, 2005, 02:18:57 PM: I don\'t know how it could\'ve hurt the sales. It sold quite a bit.
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Post by: cloud345 on October 05, 2005, 03:14:10 PM: You guys are missing the point, a game doesnt have to do bad for its sales to be hurt.

All he is saying that is if FF8 was released at a different time it would of sold more games on it\'s release date.
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Post by: Evi on October 05, 2005, 04:38:17 PM: Quote
All he is saying that is if FF8 was released at a different time it would of sold more games on it\'s release date.
There\'s no way of predicting that.
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Post by: mm on October 05, 2005, 05:04:13 PM: speculation, and heavy at that
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 06, 2005, 03:13:34 AM: Call it speculation, I call it common sense.

Common sense dicates that if people are more interested and focused on GAME A OR SYSTEM A, then GAME B or SYSTEM B, then GAME A OR SYSTEM A will do better than GAME B OR SYSTEM B. All i am saying is the gaming world was focused on the DC instead of FF8.
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Post by: Evi on October 06, 2005, 11:32:31 AM: Why are you turning this into some kind of math-like equation? It\'s speculation.
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Post by: Avatarr on October 06, 2005, 03:09:27 PM: Only way to put any kind of credibility to this discussion is through statistics. You can\'t use common sense as proof.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 06, 2005, 03:48:51 PM: And even statistics makes huge mistakes.My professor told me "there are lies, big lies and statistics" or something like that :p

Anyways typical logic or common sense is often wrong because there is no real definition of whats logical or not.Many people conclude according to what they have experienced only but unfortunately thats a small part compared to what hasnt been observed/noticed/experienced.
Especially when it comes to economics and consumer behaviour on the surface someone who uses only common sense/typical logic might expect different results/estimates than the real realisation or sometimes find the wrong explanations for the outcome of the result.

A speculation uses common sense anyways.But common sense is not necessarily correct.
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Post by: jiggs on October 07, 2005, 06:36:34 PM: Strange, I never thought this thing would take off especially with PS3 looming. I went to reserve one today and was informed that no more will be taken.

I had no plans to reserve but Madden changed my mind. My thoughts were there would be plenty left over due to the price. Hopefully pre-orders will pick up again because I am not waiting in line for the few left overs.
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Post by: mm on October 07, 2005, 06:38:53 PM: Quote
There are lies, damned lies and statistics

~ m. twain
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Post by: Evi on October 07, 2005, 07:32:55 PM: Quote
~ m. twain
Stupid professor not stating where the quote was from.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 07, 2005, 08:20:39 PM: Actually he did.I forgot who he was :p
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Post by: Evi on October 07, 2005, 11:01:33 PM: Oh...you need ginkgo.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 08, 2005, 03:40:32 AM: Why should I?
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Post by: Evi on October 08, 2005, 11:33:39 AM: Do you even know what it is?
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Post by: Unicron! on October 08, 2005, 03:21:22 PM: Its a plant....I think
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Post by: Evi on October 08, 2005, 03:39:42 PM: :stick:

It\'s a tree. It\'s leaves are used for increasing blood circulation to the brain. Heightens mental focus and whatnot.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 08, 2005, 03:46:00 PM: Oh didnt know that.I should try it.It may help me at studying.:)
Do I find ginko products at pharmacies?
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Post by: mm on October 08, 2005, 03:47:26 PM: oh, i didnt realize the (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsx2central.com%2Fforums%2Fimages3%2Fsendpm.gif&hash=2ad9c16faf4a41df0aa83ee201537ce3a20a27c4) buttons were broken
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Post by: Unicron! on October 08, 2005, 03:49:51 PM: :laughing: Oops sorry.Wasnt intentional.
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Post by: Evi on October 08, 2005, 03:51:11 PM: This would have been so much easier if you knew what the fuck I was talking about. It was meant as a joke and this carried on for a page. Jebus.

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oh, i didnt realize the (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsx2central.com%2Fforums%2Fimages3%2Fsendpm.gif&hash=2ad9c16faf4a41df0aa83ee201537ce3a20a27c4) buttons were broken
His PM box is full.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 08, 2005, 04:03:04 PM: Well since you mentioned it I d like to know.I ll delete messages from my PM box
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Post by: Knotter8 on October 08, 2005, 04:15:02 PM: I have received 0 personal messages...

:yawn: