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Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: hyper on October 14, 2005, 05:59:05 PM
http://www.economist.com/World/na/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4488706

"The plaintiffs have carefully called expert witnesses who believe not only in the separation of church and state but also in God. Mr Miller is a practising Roman Catholic. So is John Haught, a theology professor who testified on September 30th that life is like a cup of tea.

To illustrate the difference between scientific and religious “levels of understanding”, Mr Haught asked a simple question. What causes a kettle to boil? One could answer, he said, that it is the rapid vibration of water molecules. Or that it is because one has asked one\'s spouse to switch on the stove. Or that it is “because I want a cup of tea.” None of these explanations conflicts with the others. In the same way, belief in evolution is compatible with religious faith: an omnipotent God could have created a universe in which life subsequently evolved.

It makes no sense, argued the professor, to confuse the study of molecular movements by bringing in the “I want tea” explanation. That, he argued, is what the proponents of intelligent design are trying to do when they seek to air their theory—which he called “appalling theology”—in science classes. "

Your thoughts?
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Blade on October 14, 2005, 06:56:45 PM
Did you know that tea is a natural cleansing tool?
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: THX on October 15, 2005, 12:11:15 AM
Separation of church and state one hundred percent.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Evi on October 15, 2005, 10:28:33 AM
Intelligent design...pfft.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 15, 2005, 10:44:02 AM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Intelligent design...pfft.


Exactly. Because, I mean, God would of had to be a complete idiot to make something like humans.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: FatalXception on October 15, 2005, 11:00:13 AM
Plus the whole fundamental logic problem of intelligent design...

Ie, God is good, wants us to believe in him, but designed the earth with all sorts of science (which he knew we would learn) that dispute his words.  Pffft.

Separation of church and state is a KEY these days.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 15, 2005, 11:59:42 AM
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Originally posted by FatalXception
Plus the whole fundamental logic problem of intelligent design...

Ie, God is good, wants us to believe in him, but designed the earth with all sorts of science (which he knew we would learn) that dispute his words.  Pffft.

Separation of church and state is a KEY these days.


exactly. and growing up in a catholic family, all catholics have to say is "well...it tests your faith" or some bs answer like that.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Evi on October 15, 2005, 12:06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Exactly. Because, I mean, God would of had to be a complete idiot to make something like humans.
Was that sarcastic? I just said pfft to intelligent design because people are trying to use it as a new alternative to evolution, even though intelligent design seems to be the basis for a lot of religious arguements, so it\'s really nothing new, imo.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Jumpman on October 15, 2005, 12:06:54 PM
god just likes to fuck with us, even the bible suggests that!
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Evi on October 15, 2005, 12:07:51 PM
Yes, I\'m sure you read the bible daily...
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Jumpman on October 15, 2005, 12:24:04 PM
I\'ve read it.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Evi on October 15, 2005, 12:26:52 PM
For what...3 seconds?
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Jumpman on October 15, 2005, 12:32:35 PM
No, all of it junior.

On and off reading the Torah and might read the Koran too.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: (e) on October 15, 2005, 01:01:13 PM
If anyone has read Angels & Demons (Da Vinci Code prequel), it gives its own explination on life;

Basically science was "God\'s Natural Law". They called in Theo-Physics, actually interesting idea, using science and religion to form one "mega-belief".

Too bad its all trivial really.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Ghettomath on October 15, 2005, 01:02:55 PM
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If anyone has read Angels & Demons (Da Vinci Code prequel), it gives its own explination on life;
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Dan Brown\'s a pussy.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Evi on October 15, 2005, 01:59:43 PM
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Originally posted by Jumpman
No, all of it junior.

On and off reading the Torah and might read the Koran too.
Junior? Aren\'t you like 12? And I don\'t know what the Koran is, but you\'re going to have a hard time looking for it. I suggest Qur\'an instead.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Jumpman on October 15, 2005, 02:07:16 PM
You tried and failed to burn me. Step out plz.

"The Qur\'an (Arabic: أَلْقُرآن al-qur\'ān literally "the recitation"; also called Al Qur\'ān Al Karīm or "The Noble Qur\'an"; or transliterated Quran, Koran, and less commonly Alcoran)"
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Evi on October 15, 2005, 02:09:20 PM
Transliterated, eh?
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Titan on October 15, 2005, 02:11:32 PM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Junior? Aren\'t you like 12? And I don\'t know what the Koran is, but you\'re going to have a hard time looking for it. I suggest Qur\'an instead.


Koran is how its spelled in English.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Jumpman on October 15, 2005, 02:13:46 PM
"trans·lit·er·ate    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (trns-lt-rt, trnz-)
tr.v. trans·lit·er·at·ed, trans·lit·er·at·ing, trans·lit·er·ates
To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet."

Evi <3
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Evi on October 15, 2005, 02:26:55 PM
Ok you\'re retarded. I know what it fucking means. Didn\'t need it explained.


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Koran is how its spelled in English.
We\'ve established that already. But I have the book and it says Qur\'an so I wasn\'t thinking about it.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Jumpman on October 15, 2005, 02:30:38 PM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Transliterated, eh?

So this post was just an admission of you being wrong then right? That is if you didn\'t need it explained.
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Titan on October 15, 2005, 02:35:12 PM
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
We\'ve established that already. But I have the book and it says Qur\'an so I wasn\'t thinking about it.


I...hardly ever read the entire thread :)
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Evi on October 15, 2005, 02:41:33 PM
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Originally posted by Jumpman
So this post was just an admission of you being wrong then right? That is if you didn\'t need it explained.
I learned something new about different ways that Qur\'an is spelled. I already knew what transliterate meant. And um...


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Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: cloud345 on October 15, 2005, 08:10:51 PM
This thread lasted long
Title: Evolution and intelligent design.
Post by: Titan on October 15, 2005, 08:29:21 PM
Nice pic Evis :)