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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: GmanJoe on October 18, 2005, 06:13:37 AM
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Lots of 8.5 to 9.5 reviews on this ICO-esque game. Short game like ICO. Who cares? 10 hours of gameplay is perfect for busy people!
Looks like Abe\'s adventures will be put on hold.
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If you want to see it in action...the video-review is up on gametrailers.com.
And about it being short:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=924364&topic=24118009
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Originally posted by Metal Gear
If you want to see it in action...the video-review is up on gametrailers.com.
And about it being short:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=924364&topic=24118009
Well, tickle me pink! [sp]It\'s like Parasite Eve! You acrue your strength into the next replay? YEAH BABY! :D[/sp]
Thanks for the info. :)
We need a kudo points system here. I\'d give you 10 points! ;) Then again, I\'d be in the negative numbers. :p
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Sounds kind of like the ol\' New Game+ they used to have. I must say though, I get tired of companies throwing in 20 hours of misc time filling quests to make their games \'longer\'. There\'s nothing wrong with a 10-15 hour game, that\'s a good 2 weeks for a normal busy gamer, and if they have re-play-through options, well....
I find with a lot of games that they \'make\' longer, I end up getting 3/4ths of the way through and then give up cause I\'m getting bored with the same ol\' same ol.
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They have weird message boards at GameFaqs, eh?
That sounds like an interesting gimmick to keep you playing through. I\'d probably fall for it for a little while at least.
-Dan
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Another masterpiece :)
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I agree with you Fatal. ICO was about 4 hours long if you KNOW what to do. It took me about 9 hours the first time through and that took me about a week\'s time since I work.
10 hours of ACTUAL game play is gonna take me about 2 weeks to finish. That\'s long enough for me.
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Check this out:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=shadowofcolossus&message.id=380
Apparently, they have a few "homage" to ICO. The guy makes no spoilers though, so it\'s safe to read.
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BUY IT, I command you. :)
This looks like the GOTY.
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From the looks(and sounds) of it the music is gonna be nice and mellow just like Ico.I\'ve read somewhere that when you are just searching for a colossus there is hardly any music,just nature sounds.
When you engage in a fight with one the music gets bombastic and very orchestra-like.
It\'s clear from the opening movie that this is from the same team as Ico.
BTW here\'s a spoof on the game called "The Colossus Whisperer"
http://www.heavy.com/heavy.php?channel=colossus
Dr. Phill anyone?
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9.7 from IGN, it is indeed the game of the year.
Im going to buy it this Saturday and maybe post pictures of some stunts that you can do.
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Wow, this looks like something definitely worth buying.
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The recent demo didn\'t lend itself to this kind of acclaim with the awkward controls and difficult camera, though some may argue those things add to the overwhelming scope of the game.
I\'ve been looking forward to this one, but am surprised at all the high praise. Wonder if the controls were tightened up since I played it...
-Dan
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
The recent demo didn\'t lend itself to this kind of acclaim with the awkward controls and difficult camera, though some may argue those things add to the overwhelming scope of the game.
I\'ve been looking forward to this one, but am surprised at all the high praise. Wonder if the controls were tightened up since I played it...
-Dan
I believe it has if you follow one of my links (half way up). This guy was talking about the final product.
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So wait, it\'s okay to have a 10 hour game now? Now it\'s "we\'re busy people so it\'s okay" or "that\'s the perfect amount of time." Bullshit. I thought all the cries about Fable made it pretty clear that 10 hours was just unacceptable? Never mind that the game clocked in double that amount if you took part in the side quests. Don\'t even start me on how much you guys bitched about the 10-15 hour campaign of Halo 2.
Come on, tell me how it\'s okay for ICO.
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Everyone is happy. Do you want them all to be pissed off and negative? Can you not live without everyone else being pissed off? ;)
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Originally posted by Riku
So wait, it\'s okay to have a 10 hour game now? Now it\'s "we\'re busy people so it\'s okay" or "that\'s the perfect amount of time." Bullshit. I thought all the cries about Fable made it pretty clear that 10 hours was just unacceptable? Never mind that the game clocked in double that amount if you took part in the side quests. Don\'t even start me on how much you guys bitched about the 10-15 hour campaign of Halo 2.
Come on, tell me how it\'s okay for ICO.
You have to factor in that there is no other game like this. The originality is what really made this game according to reviews. Aside from the ability to be good or evil(which wasn\'t really new to begin with), Fable was like any other hack away RPG. I own Fable, I know this first hand. If your not going to deliver originality, you\'d better damn sure make sure its a quality game. That\'s not to say Fable was bad, it\'s just that Shadow of Colossus has so much going for it that the legnth of the game can be forgiven.
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Originally posted by Riku
So wait, it\'s okay to have a 10 hour game now? Now it\'s "we\'re busy people so it\'s okay" or "that\'s the perfect amount of time." Bullshit. I thought all the cries about Fable made it pretty clear that 10 hours was just unacceptable? Never mind that the game clocked in double that amount if you took part in the side quests. Don\'t even start me on how much you guys bitched about the 10-15 hour campaign of Halo 2.
Come on, tell me how it\'s okay for ICO.
It\'s okay for ICO.
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definitly getting this game. have to wait till next wednesday though.
quiz tomorrow, test friday, then a 5 minute speech and a chem test next wedesday..f*cking school.
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Originally posted by Riku
So wait, it\'s okay to have a 10 hour game now? Now it\'s "we\'re busy people so it\'s okay" or "that\'s the perfect amount of time." Bullshit. I thought all the cries about Fable made it pretty clear that 10 hours was just unacceptable? Never mind that the game clocked in double that amount if you took part in the side quests. Don\'t even start me on how much you guys bitched about the 10-15 hour campaign of Halo 2.
Come on, tell me how it\'s okay for ICO.
Unlike Fable and Halo2 we werent bombarded by tremendous hype for years on how it would be the best think ever.
This game delivers an experience like no other game.
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I thought all the cries about Fable made it pretty clear that 10 hours was just unacceptable?
yeah, but fable sucked
the game had no freedom and zero replayability
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and when you hype up the length and scope of a game and it falls short, that\'s unacceptable.
Difference is that Sony never claimed that this game would be very long. Ico wasn\'t, so why the hell would you expect the sequal to be any different?
You just need to bitch about something I guess
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seeing as i just bombed my chem quiz..im buying the game later today or tomorrow..lol.
studied the crap out of a practice quiz..and the actual quiz was nothing like it..so screw school..im playing this game all weekend.
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good luck getting a career playing video games
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i know..
i just dont get why i have to do all this complex, 40 different chem calculations/constants were supposed to know/etc..
im going into biology with an emphasis on zoology, which obviously uses chem as a language..but im not going to be taking NaCl and mixing it with other random shit..i just think i should be taking a chem class that deals more with biology rather than straight up chemistry.
:jacked:
anyway..this games going to be awesome no matter how "short" some people think it will be.
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UNfortunately, organic chemistry plays a major part in biology, and is a helluvalot more complicated than straight chemical interactions. Wait till you\'re trying to identify interactions between molecules that have the same description, but numbers to tell you where they branch, or if they\'re branched off a ring formation or something... Throw in the odd ionic or polar molecule, and stuff gets REALLY irritating (Organic chem is my most hated course of all time).
example?
Hexane - C6H14 - straight chain.
Isohexane - C6H14 - Same friggin chemical formulae, oh, wait, it\'s got a chain coming off it, which you have to describe.
Cyclohexane - C6H12 - at least it\'s a different formulae. Same compounds but in a ringed structure.
Heh heh, wait till you hit shit like:
ethyl-1,1,3,3-tetramethylcyclopentane (yes, this exists, I had to go dig up my organic chem book to find a good example)
BACK on topic...
Length of a game is really only important for certain types of game.. like RPGs or immersive games. 10 hours really is a LONG time if it\'s all quality gaming time. Prince of Persia (the original) was a good game, but if you knew what you were doing, it took, what... 2 hours (5-10 the first time)? Yet one of the best games ever.. if they wanted, they could have made it 20 - 50 - 1000 hours long, the levels were pretty easy to program... but that would have SUCKED. It was a perfect balance of complexity/innovation to it\'s length.
A game that they say takes 10 hours, generally means it\'s about a 3-4 hour game if you sit there and follow a walkthrough, and 10-25 if you take your time, do it yourself, and explore all the possibilities.
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It\'ll have shot at GOTY, but RE4 is probably still top dog.
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But Shadow of the Colussus is climb, kill, repeat.
I\'m not saying to be all pissed off about it. I\'m okay with 10 hour games. I finished Wind Waker in just over 10 hours, Jak & Daxter in 12, Jak 3 in 11, and more right around the 10 hour mark. Those are three of my absolute favorite games of this generation so it\'s obvious I\'m okay with 10 hours.
It\'s just that you guys are such hypocrites. It\'s fucking pathetic. Don\'t make excuses, it just makes you seem like more of a jackass. I just came in here to call you guys on it.
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Originally posted by JBean
and when you hype up the length and scope of a game and it falls short, that\'s unacceptable.
Difference is that Sony never claimed that this game would be very long. Ico wasn\'t, so why the hell would you expect the sequal to be any different?
You just need to bitch about something I guess
The hype is irrelevant. Games are judged on what they are, not what some blog told us it was going to be.
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Originally posted by Riku
The hype is irrelevant. Games are judged on what they are, not what some blog told us it was going to be.
Fable was well recieved anyways.No?
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Fable was well recieved anyways.No?
That is exactly my point. You guys, however, made a huge deal out of it. mm cried like a little girl for weeks.
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Well my point was that people complained but they bought it anyways and liked it but at the same time felt dissapointed because many promises werent fullfilled.It was a nice game but nothing like the game that should have been.
SOTC though on the other hand didnt raise any expectations thanks to developers.
The game appeared out of nothing, people saw it, got their hands on it and experienced it by theirselves and they expressed their opinion on it.They liked it and like it for what the game showed.Not for what the game should have been like or what developers wanted to do but didnt do.
The game got attention because it showed greatness without much need of developer intervention to convince.
Fable on the other hand got attention mostly from developer talk.
It was supposed to be innovative and original but it wasnt.Peter Molynuex didnt deliver what he promised and talked about.
Shadow of the Collosus on the other hand wasnt talked as much by developers, they didnt promise anything that didnt make it to the final product.it the game was a surprise to the gamer and an innovative one too
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Well my point was that people complained but they bought it anyways and liked it but at the same time felt dissapointed because many promises werent fullfilled.It was a nice game but nothing like the game that should have been.
SOTC though on the other hand didnt raise any expectations thanks to developers.
The game appeared out of nothing, people saw it, got their hands on it and experienced it by theirselves and they expressed their opinion on it.They liked it and like it for what the game showed.Not for what the game should have been like or what developers wanted to do but didnt do.
The game got attention because it showed greatness without much need of developer intervention to convince.
Fable on the other hand got attention mostly from developer talk.
It was supposed to be innovative and original but it wasnt.Peter Molynuex didnt deliver what he promised and talked about.
Shadow of the Collosus on the other hand wasnt talked as much by developers, they didnt promise anything that didnt make it to the final product.it the game was a surprise to the gamer and an innovative one too
You\'re just making excuses for whining. It\'s just silly and stupid to measure a game up against what it could have been, whether the developer was throwing out information or not.
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i bought it..and i think its a great fookin game
I could see the length being a problem because on my first day/hour i defeated 2 guys. But i can already tell that taking down the collosi will get more confusing as i continue. The first and second guys were relatively easy..the second one took me a good amount of time longer to figure out so i can only imagine it doing it for the next some-odd collosi.
the graphics..are amazing. Sorry if we got people stuck in the 25th century where everything should be lifelike..but its amazing. The first guy, its a cutscene..then to just see this huge ass thing in the distance that u have to take down..very cool.
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Originally posted by Riku
But Shadow of the Colussus is climb, kill, repeat.
I\'m not saying to be all pissed off about it. I\'m okay with 10 hour games. I finished Wind Waker in just over 10 hours, Jak & Daxter in 12, Jak 3 in 11, and more right around the 10 hour mark. Those are three of my absolute favorite games of this generation so it\'s obvious I\'m okay with 10 hours.
It\'s just that you guys are such hypocrites. It\'s fucking pathetic. Don\'t make excuses, it just makes you seem like more of a jackass. I just came in here to call you guys on it.
Whats with all the hate? There is a hard mode to unlock and new weapons like the (SPOILERS BELOW)
HARPOON
Queen Sword
Explosive arrows and many more
Hidden areas can be conquered after replaying .
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Originally posted by Waspman
Whats with all the hate? There is a hard mode to unlock and new weapons like the (SPOILERS BELOW)
Don\'t take my post the wrong way. I was merely breaking SoTC down just like so many did with Halo and Fable just to show what hypocrites they are.
I\'m not hating on SoTC, I\'m sure it\'s as boring as ICO.;)
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As I said before there is a difference between hyped up games by developers that raise falsy expecations than games which people discover their greatness by theirselves.
People that whined are the the same people that bought Fable anyways.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
As I said before there is a difference between hyped up games by developers that raise falsy expecations than games which people discover their greatness by theirselves.
People that whined are the the same people that bought Fable anyways.
There is no such difference. It\'s all bias and stupidity. I\'ll say it again, games are rated for what they are. Go to any video game site and you\'ll see one review for a game. Not one review for those who bought into the hype or raised lofty expectations and then another for those who didn\'t.
Stop trying to make excuses, especially if you can\'t make a valid counter point.
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Wipe your eyes Riku and go play some Fable. :)
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Originally posted by Riku
It\'s just that you guys are such hypocrites. It\'s fucking pathetic. Don\'t make excuses, it just makes you seem like more of a jackass. I just came in here to call you guys on it.
Why the hell is your panty in a wad? You don\'t like it when I say "10 hours is plenty for me"? Suddenly I\'m a hypocrite? Wanna show me a thread where I complained about the shortness or length of a particular game?
I never played Fable...I don\'t even know which system it\'s on but based on your bitchiness, it\'s probably an Xbox game. Does mm\'s opinion get to you THAT much that I mention about the length of a game and suddenly your repressed memories pour out like the Niagara Falls?
Go get a damn box of tissues, cheese cake, rent a copy of Titanic and get your favorite pillow. You complain like a girl!
"I remember when you said this! And I don\'t appreciate it!" --Riku
Bitch, let it go!
PS Snape killed Dumbledore!
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mm cried like a little girl for weeks.
ok mr. expert
why was Fable ported to PC then?
why did the awesome peter molyneux apologize for Fable sucking
well received....
:rofl:
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Originally posted by mm
ok mr. expert
why was Fable ported to PC then?
why did the awesome peter molyneux apologize for Fable sucking
well received....
:rofl:
What Peter Monyleux game hasn\'t been ported to PC?
He apologized for the game not meeting the expectations he kept telling us about for four years. He never said the game sucked. Even so, games are still scored on what they are. If you want to talk about what game developers have wanted to do versus what they accomplished then there are alot of really great games that could be considered trash. But that\'s just dumb.
The game scored in the 8.X range, same as some of the scores SoTC received as well as some other noteworthy games. Not to mention it sold well.
Gmanjoe, the post was directed at everyone here who\'s ever bitched about the length of a high profile game compared to a lesser known "artsy" type game. If you don\'t fall into that category then you need not reply. BTW, calling me a girl won\'t do anything for you. In fact, I think it\'s quite pathetic that you use it in a debate. Secondly, brining up the whole Harry Potter thing just brings up a fond memory of me schooling you on the subject back in July. Have a nice day.:)
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gonna go buy this today...
did you guys see this? Is this a commercial?
http://giantology.net/videos/tsunami_giant.wmv
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I\'ve seen it, little cousin sent it to me thinking it was real.
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But Fable is an RPG, SotC is not. Why are we comparing the length of the two? I get your points, Riku, but I fail to see how it\'s relevant. Halo 2, another of your examples, was fine in length, it just had a completely stupid single player campaign, but its length and replayability, for those who appreciate the multiplayer of Halo 2, is obviously hundreds of hours for many -- enough to even warrant an "expansion" of sorts. But SotC isn\'t like Fable. SotC isn\'t like Halo 2. I\'m trying to meet you half way on this one, but I am honestly failing miserably...
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Originally posted by Ryu
But Fable is an RPG, SotC is not. Why are we comparing the length of the two? I get your points, Riku, but I fail to see how it\'s relevant. Halo 2, another of your examples, was fine in length, it just had a completely stupid single player campaign, but its length and replayability, for those who appreciate the multiplayer of Halo 2, is obviously hundreds of hours for many -- enough to even warrant an "expansion" of sorts. But SotC isn\'t like Fable. SotC isn\'t like Halo 2. I\'m trying to meet you half way on this one, but I am honestly failing miserably...
(You forgot that Fable is double the length if you do the sidequests)
They are all around the 8-12 hour mark. Many games are, and from all kinds of genres; It seems to be the magic number. I don\'t get how people can praise one game for reaching this length and completely dump on another. Don\'t even get me started on how it\'s been three-four years since Team ICO\'s last game, the same amount of time Fable was in development and one year more than Halo 2 was in development. WHAAA-WHAT, only 10 hours?! WTF have they been doing??!?! It\'s just BS.
I just found it funny how "10 hours is great for busy people" or something to that effect. I never witnessed anything like that when Halo or Fable came out.
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Originally posted by Riku
Gmanjoe, the post was directed at everyone here who\'s ever bitched about the length of a high profile game compared to a lesser known "artsy" type game. If you don\'t fall into that category then you need not reply. BTW, calling me a girl won\'t do anything for you. In fact, I think it\'s quite pathetic that you use it in a debate. Secondly, brining up the whole Harry Potter thing just brings up a fond memory of me schooling you on the subject back in July. Have a nice day.:)
Riku, I called you a girl coz you bitch and whine like one. Wanna see an example of panties in a wad? Look at your posts here.
And "schooling" me? Hardly. It was funny, I admit. But in the end, we all know that in REAL LIFE, you spent your Friday night in line to buy a Harry Potter book. A children\'s book. Do you knot have a social life? Aren\'t you in college or something?
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Originally posted by Riku
I don\'t get how people can praise one game for reaching this length and completely dump on another.
1.Why are you complaining since Fable wasnt completely dumped?People complained but bought it.What\'s your point?
2.As Ryu pointed out Fable is an RPG
3.Fable didnt raise complains because of length alone.Length was one of the many
4.Peter promised more hours
5.SOTC has enough originality and innovation to make up for the lentgh(Something Fable didnt have).
Originally posted by Riku
Stop trying to make excuses, especially if you can\'t make a valid counter point.
And yours is? :confused:
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Riku, I called you a girl coz you bitch and whine like one. Wanna see an example of panties in a wad? Look at your posts here.
And "schooling" me? Hardly. It was funny, I admit. But in the end, we all know that in REAL LIFE, you spent your Friday night in line to buy a Harry Potter book. A children\'s book. Do you knot have a social life? Aren\'t you in college or something?
My panties aren\'t in a wad. I\'m simply antogonizing you guys with something I find funny and sad all the same. You took the bait and here we are.
You spent the entire thread trying to insult me and you came across looking like a dimwitted jackass. You were schooled.
Yeah, one Friday night spent getting a book I wanted to read. If you really wanted to know I ended up going out the next night. Your attempts at insulting me are absolutely pathetic.
1.Why are you complaining since Fable wasnt completely dumped?People complained but bought it.What\'s your point?
2.As Ryu pointed out Fable is an RPG
3.Fable didnt raise complains because of length alone.Length was one of the many
4.Peter promised more hours
5.SOTC has enough originality and innovation to make up for the lentgh(Something Fable didnt have).
This is not about Fable\'s commercial success, it\'s specifically aimed at a handful of people on this very forum who are hypocrites. They know who they are.
To label Fable an RPG is a tad too general, don\'t you think? I mean, if we are being general then you\'re right, but it\'s not like we can throw Final Fantasy and Fable into the same category, they play way too differently. Action RPGs with real time combat are much shorter than turn-based RPGs heavy with cut-scenes and CG movies.
What complaints other than length were there, Uni?
Again, it doesn\'t matter what Peter said. The game is what the game is. Peter might have said it was going to be something else but the reality is that it\'s not.
Countering number five here: Last I checked Fable took home alot of better than average scores, much like SoTC. The only arguement you have is one of bias, and it just won\'t get you anywhere.
And yours is?
God damnit, Uni. A game is scored based on what it is. I just think it\'s ridiculous to have different standards depending on how high you or some other jackass set your expectations (even given prior information). I could sit here and say how much SoTC sucks because I was expecting it to be longer, or the monsters more numerous, etc because it\'s been in development so long. I\'m not going to because it would be stupid. The game is what it is.
Let me give another example of how ridiculous this all is. Do you remember what Ken Kuturagi said about the Playstation 2? Remember how much hype the emotion engine got, or how the PS2 was going to be "like jacking into the matrix"? How about the grand plans Sony had for online, or how emotion engine was going to be rendering movies, or the PS3 was going to be 1000X more powerful than the PS2...a bunch of lofty expectations. If you were to hold them against the PS2 then you could say the machine is an abysmal disappointment. Do I need to spell it out for you how fucking stupid that sounds? The PS2 is a great console for what it is and what it delivered.
Did I hit close enough to home for you? Surely you can understand that.
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Originally posted by Riku
My panties aren\'t in a wad. I\'m simply antogonizing you guys with something I find funny and sad all the same. You took the bait and here we are.
You spent the entire thread trying to insult me and you came across looking like a dimwitted jackass. You were schooled.
Yeah, one Friday night spent getting a book I wanted to read. If you really wanted to know I ended up going out the next night. Your attempts at insulting me are absolutely pathetic.
Pathetic : spending Friday night in line to buy a childrens book. You felt pretty cool among the 11 year olds, I bet.
And you hardly schooled anyone. It was the internet. Remember, it\'s not real life. In person, you would be too scared to even attempt "schooling" me. And Harry Potter won\'t be there to help you.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Pathetic : spending Friday night in line to buy a childrens book. You felt pretty cool among the 11 year olds, I bet.
And you hardly schooled anyone. It was the internet. Remember, it\'s not real life. In person, you would be too scared to even attempt "schooling" me. And Harry Potter won\'t be there to help you.
You already said this and I thought I made it clear that it doesn\'t bother me what you think. Is this like your first and last defense or something, insulting my character? I don\'t know you and certainly don\'t give a flying fuck what you think of me. I mean, if your posts indicated that you were at least of a respectable intelligence, or maybe even funny, then I would at least consider your opinion of me...but seeing as how I think you\'re a moron, and this forum is filled with proof of that, then I simply couldn\'t care less what you have to say.
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ow damnit. PAL release date is February 06 :(
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Well I guess since I "bitched" about fable\'s length, I should bother to make my stance known (although I was pretty damn clear why I bitched in the first place). SotC was never hyped to be a free roaming, non-linear, EPIC RPG. Fable, however, was hyped to no end about it. There was more promised out of fable, and I was dissapointed to hear that a lot of it was slashed out of the final product. SotC was never supposed to be a grand epic, it was supposed to be another game in the line of ICO, extremely artsy and atmospheric. I think SotC accomplished its goal more so than what Fable set out to achieve.
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damn, you guys are dorks.
this game is pretty cool, and I recommend it. :)
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
damn, you guys are dorks.
damn proud of it too
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Originally posted by Riku
God damnit, Uni. A game is scored based on what it is. I just think it\'s ridiculous to have different standards depending on how high you or some other jackass set your expectations (even given prior information). I could sit here and say how much SoTC sucks because I was expecting it to be longer, or the monsters more numerous, etc because it\'s been in development so long. I\'m not going to because it would be stupid. The game is what it is.
Let me give another example of how ridiculous this all is. Do you remember what Ken Kuturagi said about the Playstation 2? Remember how much hype the emotion engine got, or how the PS2 was going to be "like jacking into the matrix"? How about the grand plans Sony had for online, or how emotion engine was going to be rendering movies, or the PS3 was going to be 1000X more powerful than the PS2...a bunch of lofty expectations. If you were to hold them against the PS2 then you could say the machine is an abysmal disappointment. Do I need to spell it out for you how fucking stupid that sounds? The PS2 is a great console for what it is and what it delivered.
Did I hit close enough to home for you? Surely you can understand that.
I got your point, but what I am saying is:why are you complaining for something that was in the past and since the same people that complained bought it anyways and since the game was succesful?
You are calling hypocrites the same people who bought Fable too.
If someone starts bitching how hypocrites people are for complaining about the PS2 5 years ago especially when these people are the same that bought PS2 and like it, he would seem weird and pointless.
People complained because they were promised so much not because Fable was crap.Otherwise it wouldnt have sold.Peter promised more freedom and more things.Just as people complained TEMPORARILY about Ken\'s statements not because PS2 was crap.People complained temporarily because they had certain standards, certain expectations from he game and its genre and it was logical to see such reactions.But that was temporary.
Your arguements are pointless.You are taking two completely different examples/situations (Fable and SOFTC) and compare them.Its like comparing Sahara with the Antarctica.
Your post is pointless.You are making to much fuss about something that wasnt serious
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Originally posted by Unicron!
I got your point, but what I am saying is:why are you complaining for something that was in the past and since the same people that complained bought it anyways and since the game was succesful?
You are calling hypocrites the same people who bought Fable too.
If someone starts bitching how hypocrites people are for complaining about the PS2 5 years ago especially when these people are the same that bought PS2 and like it, he would seem weird and pointless.
People complained because they were promised so much not because Fable was crap.Otherwise it wouldnt have sold.Peter promised more freedom and more things.Just as people complained TEMPORARILY about Ken\'s statements not because PS2 was crap.People complained temporarily because they had certain standards, certain expectations from he game and its genre and it was logical to see such reactions.But that was temporary.
Your arguements are pointless.You are taking two completely different examples/situations (Fable and SOFTC) and compare them.Its like comparing Sahara with the Antarctica.
Your post is pointless.You are making to much fuss about something that wasnt serious
Your posts are pointless.
Complaining about the PS2 is the exact same thing as people complaining about Fable, basing it on something that it isn\'t. Ultimately, it just doesn\'t matter what Peter or Ken said, the game/console is what it is.
I\'m not going to repeat myself any more. You\'ll find my counter in my previous posts of this thread. I\'m sorry for derailing it and I"m just going to leave it at that.
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Basically, Riku\'s panties are in a wad because you guys complained about Fable and not Colossus.
Bitch, let it go. This thread is about Colossus. But you turned it into a bitch fest about your feelings getting hurt about Fable.
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bitch.
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Welcome to PSX2C, BITCH!
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Thas right, bitch!
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Originally posted by Riku
Your posts are pointless.
Complaining about the PS2 is the exact same thing as people complaining about Fable, basing it on something that it isn\'t. Ultimately, it just doesn\'t matter what Peter or Ken said, the game/console is what it is.
I\'m not going to repeat myself any more. You\'ll find my counter in my previous posts of this thread. I\'m sorry for derailing it and I"m just going to leave it at that.
Ahm....so I all ask you again...if there is no point complaining why did you make such a fuss out of it?
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Ahm....so I all ask you again...if there is no point complaining why did you make such a fuss out of it?
I was complaining about the people on this forum, not the games. Oh, and because I can.
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Originally posted by Riku
I was complaining about the people on this forum, not the games. Oh, and because I can.
That doesnt change the fact that it\'s still pointless.Especially when the same people bought it :confused:
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Originally posted by Unicron!
That doesnt change the fact that it\'s still pointless.Especially when the same people bought it :confused:
I\'m bitching about other people bitching. There\'s no great point to be made other than I think there are some major fucktards on this message board. My bringing up that games shouldn\'t be judged by anything other than what they ultimately are, despite things such as hype or status, was just supporting my right to complain.
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We all slammed Fable because it WASN\'T what the developers are claiming it would be. We don\'t bash Ico2 (mainly because it\'s a great game), but because the developer didn\'t fail to deliver on this game. If anything they didn\'t hype this game at all.
In the end Fable is what it is, a game that failed to live up to it\'s potential. If you fail to recognize this then this debate will never end.
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Okay, I just got back from a Halloween party with my wife, so I\'m tired. I should be asleep...but I thought I\'d FINALLY get a quick play at this game. Just one Colossus to kill. 1 hour later, I just killed off the 2nd Colossus. My wife is playing Sims 2. She\'ll be busy for a while:D
Oh man oh man oh man! This game is sooo much FUN! It\'s larger than Ico. The learning curve is about medium, on par with Ico but you have far more things going on than Ico.
#1 You have to find a way to climb up on the Colossus. Either by bringing them to their knees by force or by climbing up on something to jump from and to the monster.
#2 Climbing takes stamina away from your hands. You gotta watch that and give your guy a chance to rest whilst on the Colossus.
#3 You hurt the Colossus, that bohemoth will do everything it can to shake you off. You better have some grip strength left during this period.
#4 Riku cries like a girl.
#5 When on the Colossus, you won\'t know where to stab unless you have a weapon in hand.
#6 It\'s 2:42 AM. Good morning.
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Encounter with the large kind.
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Charge!!!
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Coming through!!
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Escape from getting trampled upon.
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Shooting arrows from horseback.
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Great game by the way! 6 hours and 38 minute with only 2 monsters down.Having a blast exploring 50% of the map.You can hang and glide with the hawks, climb trees to find power up fruits.
Im still looking for the fish to do some fishdiving:)
The graphics and camera control is so flexible that it gives you the impression of watching a movie.
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Finally, someone making it sound worthwhile. I want this game again. :)
-Dan
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Trees that give power ups? Okay...I need to start exploring more and quit fighting so much.
Foreplay, Gman. Explore every crevice til you find the cherry. Then go for the KILL! :p
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yeah, i\'m on the 6th one, and there is possibly the best forest to explore i\'ve ever seen in a video game, it reminds me of the forest at the seeing seat in LOTR, FOTR
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Originally posted by Riku
So wait, it\'s okay to have a 10 hour game now? Now it\'s "we\'re busy people so it\'s okay" or "that\'s the perfect amount of time." Bullshit. I thought all the cries about Fable made it pretty clear that 10 hours was just unacceptable? Never mind that the game clocked in double that amount if you took part in the side quests. Don\'t even start me on how much you guys bitched about the 10-15 hour campaign of Halo 2.
Come on, tell me how it\'s okay for ICO.
I was complaining about the people on this forum, not the games. Oh, and because I can.
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I\'m bitching about other people bitching. There\'s no great point to be made other than I think there are some major fucktards on this message board. My bringing up that games shouldn\'t be judged by anything other than what they ultimately are, despite things such as hype or status, was just supporting my right to complain
Don\'t make blanket statements... check out this post of mine about game length from 4 YEARS AGO!
My post on this site (http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=96714#post96714)
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I just picked up the NTSC version of this. :D
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Enjoy! BTW....mm does not condone mod chips. :) You may have just locked this thread. ;)