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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Soul Reaver on November 16, 2005, 11:52:42 AM
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Kojima said so.
Click me for massive sex, man sex. (http://joystiq.com/entry/1234000883068264/)
This thread is self-explanatory.
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I bet it would have jaggies.
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Anyway, he says it can run the demo. No downgrades whatsoever, though I\'m sure some of you more enterprising members would love to dispute that and live in denial.
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What does that mean "MGS4 demo could have run on the XBox360 hardware."?
He\'s saying that it could have but it wasn\'t? Or that it is capable of running on the 360?
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but from the same site
Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest NOT 360-bound
It was a nice dream, at any rate. Faster than you can say Yoichi Wada comes news from Square Enix (via 1up) that the Reuters article from yesterday, which hinted at possible next-generation Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy titles for the Xbox 360, are inaccurate. It appears that Sony will continue to hold the main Final Fantasy franchise as long as it still can.
in other news, stock prices for microsoft of japan plummet and steve ballmer commits sepuku
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Hate to say it - but I agree with MM.
Who cares?
Regarding MGS4 and XBOX360
....Coulda..Shoulda...Woulda.
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meh
who cares?
news is news, my not posting this wouldn\'t be any better
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Was there any doubt?
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Sony fanboys refuse to believe anything can be just as powerful than a processor co-designed by Sony.
These machines are just about equal from everything I\'ve read and seen. I am still looking forward to the PS3 much more, but I\'m not living in the Nile.
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Denial...river in Egypt called the Nile...*sucks life out of that one*
Yeah I don\'t have anything to add.
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dad, what\'s denial?
it\'s a river in Africa!!!!
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the nile?
that was pretty lame
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LOL. What has this thread turns into?
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This is...good news for the Xbox 360. I don\'t see the issue.
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Originally posted by Soul Reaver
the nile?
that was pretty lame
I didn\'t even get it until I just read it out loud. Crash and burn.
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? yes it was lame, like everything else I post is, but can\'t believe there were 5 posts discussing that. weeee
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Originally posted by mm
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but from the same site
in other news, stock prices for microsoft of japan plummet and steve ballmer commits sepuku
hater......
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Originally posted by THX
? yes it was lame, like everything else I post is, but can\'t believe there were 5 posts discussing that. weeee
I cant believe you wrote "THE NILE" :eek:
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I did it on porpoise! I swear!!!1
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Indeed... who ff-ing cares...
It\'s not about the maximum power factor.
It\'s about development dedication and that being doable + profitable.
Hideo Kojima\'s team is only 1 single team.
They devoted lots of money,time and effort into specializing in Sony\'s hardware.
It took \'em a year, 2 years after MGS2 SOL on PS2 to do an Xbox port, which was pretty crappy.
So, there you see it ; it\'s on PS3 and not on Xbox360 becuz Kojima\'s team is only able to focus on PS3 hardware becuz of time and specialization. No doubt, that IF they had the time and money, they could also make the game work on Xbox360 & being profitable.
THAT\'s all there is to it, really. :)
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man it\'s awesome how this thread got derailed
almost like a normal forum
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The whole "who cares" stems from the fact that while it CAN run MGS4, it isn\'t. What it "CAN" run, doesn\'t sell the system. What it is running, is the product that can is being sold and in this case, it\'s the gurantee\'d blockbuster hit, MGS4.
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Just a simple comparison of what the systems can do is what it is. No harm in creating a new topic considering the lack of traffic this forum gets.
It\'s not like I wrote an article saying the PS3 is doomed.
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Originally posted by Soul Reaver
Just a simple comparison of what the systems can do is what it is.
But that\'s still missing the point.
bezier curved surfaces on PS3 are bezier curved surfaces on Xbox360.
HDR lighting on PS3 = HDR lighting on Xbox360. etc
Yes, even though probably the gpu calls differ alot (thanx to Xenos\' uniformed shader units), the graphics techniques are still the same graphics techniques.
The x performance MGS4 is pulling on PS3 right now, or even final code, is probably doable on Xbox360 too, with about the same types of graphical bells and whistles.
It is justa fact that the dev code & specialisation behind those graphics are only doable and profitable at a time on one console. Taking the fact in consideration that Kojima\'s team is PS2 dev savvy and they\'ve needed all the time they had to create this trailer on PS3, they\'d need another year or maybe 2 to create the same on Xbox360, profitable.
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meh
This was towards the people who used it as a shield.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The whole "who cares" stems from the fact that while it CAN run MGS4, it isn\'t. What it "CAN" run, doesn\'t sell the system. What it is running, is the product that can is being sold and in this case, it\'s the gurantee\'d blockbuster hit, MGS4.
I think people care not for the fact that MGS4 could have been on XBOX360 but to the fact that people can expect the same quality in games that will come on XBOX360.
Its a matter of future expectations really.
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Sony fanboys are gonna be prettAAAY-prettAAAY-prettAAAY upset when REAL PS3 footage starts dropping and it looks no more next gen than what the Xbox 360 is offering at the time.
I have not read or heard one third party developer say that the PS3 was head and shoulders above the x360 in graphical capabilities. They all say that the performance should be pretty much the same across both platforms.
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heh I kind of have the impression that Sony skrewed theirselves this gen
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Bullshit.
We have no actual PS3 gameplay to compare to Xbox360\'s, we\'ve only seen PS3 trailers and PS3 final specs are not yet final and certainly not yet publicised.
Alot of ppl are just hoping it will turn out less becuz they already preordered their
Xbox360.
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That also is true :p
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BTW, when is the launch date of XBOX360?
You guys must be really hardcore gamers or something to pre-orders because so far I haven\'t even find a game that interest me enough to bother thinking about getting XBOX360.
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11/22
think i just heard someone say \'meh\'
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I got a call that said I can pick it up at midnight on Monday. I\'ll get it after work on Tuesday...
I\'m looking forward to Kameo...
Meh. ;]
-Dan
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Originally posted by mm
11/22
think i just heard someone say \'meh\'
No doubt the launch seems pretty mediocre. Main reason why I\'m not getting this system so early.
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For the ppl who\'d missed the realtime demo-ing of the MGS4 trailer :
MGS4 RT demo presentation & pics (http://www.gamesmediamirror.com/leech_2074_1_en.html)
and
MGS4 RT demo presentation (http://files.filefront.com/MGS4_PS3_Devkit_Demo_Eng_subs/;4440530;;/fileinfo.html)
Now, when I play SplinterCell Chaos Theory here on my 6800GT pc with sm3.0 HDR eyecandy settings, I can conclude that this TGS MGS4 trailer is very likely what MGS4 will boast visually, ingame.
SC CT, at it\'s finest moments already comes pretty close to what we perceive as stunning next gen graphics.
This MGS4 is possible. Kojima is a man with a proven trackrecord concerning keeping promise for ingame graphics.
Especially the 2nd half of the video with the Otacon character actually being realtime 3D on that robot\'s screen. Now, that is where current gen games like SC CT can\'t go. Impressive stuff :bow:
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PS2 can play Battlefield 2
Get where I\'m going?
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Originally posted by mm
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but from the same site
in other news, stock prices for microsoft of japan plummet and steve ballmer commits sepuku
lol, i\'m sure u\'d care if it was titled "x360 can\'t run MGS4"
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way to bump a dead post, soully
your flame skills are impressive
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Originally posted by Black Samurai
Sony fanboys are gonna be prettAAAY-prettAAAY-prettAAAY upset when REAL PS3 footage starts dropping and it looks no more next gen than what the Xbox 360 is offering at the time.
I have not read or heard one third party developer say that the PS3 was head and shoulders above the x360 in graphical capabilities. They all say that the performance should be pretty much the same across both platforms.
Realshit but I expect ps3 to have the better library of games.