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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Jin on December 02, 2000, 09:19:37 AM
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I have an Aiwa CX-NMT720 mini-Stereo system that has surround sound (5.1ch Dolby Pro Logic & Digital Sound Processor). I have been trying to hook my PS2 up to it so that I can play games in surround, but I havent had any luck. I have had my Panasonic DVD player hooked up this way(optical cable) for right at a year. So I figured it would just be "plug-n-play" for my PS2...nope. I have already made sure that "Optical Output" is turned on in the PS2 setup. I have heard that you have to have a 5.1ch reciever to convert the audio coming from the PS2, so I guess what Im asking is "Should my Aiwa system act as a reciever?" I would appreciate any help.
Jin
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hey bor i have the same predicament you got right now, i got an aiwa stereo system, it cost about 450, its a really nice stereo, amnyways, i tried to hook it up expecting it to just emit stereo, but it wont, so i tried hooking it up to my dads 350 uck sony stereo, still no luck, what do e have to do to make it work??? i really wish somebody would help, do we gotta make it a reciever, and if so how??
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I don\'t get your problem.. You are plugging in your PS2 via the optical connections? It\'s not working or you aren\'t getting 5.1? You won\'t get DD unless you are playing a DVD. You aren\'t getting any sound at all?
Yeah your Aiwa is acting as a receiver.. It should work the same as your other DVD player you had hooked up before.
Although if you both have Aiwa and both have a problem, there may be more to it... Anyone have an Aiwa that works?
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ok i have resolved the prob, although i didnt use the digital output, i got extentions for the left and right audio, and hooked them up to my stereo, i works just fine, does didgital sound better???, i bet it does, well the way i hooked it up sound just great and im happy
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For the PS2 games the digital probably doesn\'t sound hugely different. For the DVD player on the other hand it\'s a huge difference.
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ok video i have a question for you...
when you hook up the ps2 to the stereo with the audio left, audio right cords, do you add the digital optical cord also, and that gives the stereo digital sound???, or do you do you just hook up the digital cord without the audio cords? cause when i do that theres no sound, i bet you gotta hook it up like i said the first time, im sure that litle digital cord doesnt send all that sound thrue it
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Either or. they don\'t work together, they are independent of each other. If you use the Optical cable, your audio will only come out of your stereo. It will not go through to your tv. That would be the only reason to hook up both. Sometimes you may want to hear the audio through the tv and sometimes through the stereo.
THe Optical cable is pure digital so it never gets changed to analog so your TV won\'t get it.
This is why you need to hook up the two analog cables if you want to hear out of the tv... Does that make sense?
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oh nah buddy, it was tat when i would hook up the optical only it wouldnt have sound, but the i hooked up the audio left and audio right, it did, wich is obviouse, but i mean if you have the optical [b[ and [/b] the audio left and right hooked up to the stereo like it have it now, does that give it digital sound? cause it sounds just fine to me
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Nope, you are hearing audio from your two analog chords. The optical chord is doing nothing.
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aww that blows, oh well it sounds beautiful to me man, im watching gladiator right now
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So, let me get this straight. There is no way to get Digital Surround sound when playing Games, only DVD? Well, I have the PS2 hooked up to my Aiwa system with an Optical Cable. I have my Aiwa system set to output 5.1ch audio. But, I get no sound out of my stereo system when playing a game, or a dvd for that matter. Now, I can take the left and right audio cables and hook them into my aiwa system and I get sound out of the front channel of my stereo, but nothing from the rear and center channel. Which makes perfect sense seeing as how I only have 2 audio inputs going directly into my stereo (left and right audio rca). Is there anyway to get my setup to play audio in ALL channels, front and rear, when playing a game? Or even a DVD??
Jin
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I want surround sound soooooooo bad. Hopefully my dad will get it for the new room we are making downstairs!! I think surround sound is awesome. And my mom heard it in the store with me and wants it too. She also wants a flat screen more than ANYTHING. I dunno why she was never into electronics.
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I thought that you have to have DTS decorder to have surround sound thru PS2 optical output. I might be wrong but optical output on PS2 is just for DTS?
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Hey Jin. You can get surround sound (Pro Logic) from the two channel analog cable. In fact what Pro Logic is, is a four channel system that is matrixed from two channels. As far as I know there are no Dolby Digital games that are out, so you most likely have no use for the optical cable when playing games. It makes sense to have both the analog and optical cables hooked up though, so you just have to switch the output mode on the PS2, and the input mode on your reciever to which ever you are going to use.
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Originally posted by sith
I thought that you have to have DTS decorder to have surround sound thru PS2 optical output. I might be wrong but optical output on PS2 is just for DTS?
Yeah, you\'re wrong. It does Dolby Digital as well...
Hey Dolby - Does the optical output send out PCM audio as well? Their systems should be able to make that into Po-logic..
And as Dolby was saying, you should have 4 channels of audio with pro-logic even with the 2 analog cables. You get stereo front, mono rear, and center... I think this is an issue with your Aiwa system. You maybe should call them and see if they have heard of any conflicts. Although that digital output is just a regular old digital output and if you have an input then there is no reason it shouldn\'t work. Unless maybe your system doesn\'t change setups automatically. Maybe it\'s looking for a Dolby Digital signal from that optical input and since it\'s not getting one it\'s giving you no sound at all. I dunno, just thinking off the top of my head. Have you guys tried movies that you know are DD with the optical cable?
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Vholic, I don\'t know what the optical output on a PS2 is compatable with other than SRD and DTS. I do believe that there are stereo and pro logic recordings that can be played through the SRD system with a DVD though. I guess this is for films that were out before SRD was common, and they\'ve been digitally mastered.
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The digital out passes PCM sound great...
I have tested Saving private Ryan, The Matrix, The Bonecollector, Aliens, Starship Troopers and Three Kings.
Everything worked as a charm. Full DD 5.1.
The fact is, I only use the optical to deliver all the sound from the PS2 into my system. I play CD\'s, PS2 games and DVD movies with high-end speakers (400$, and they are only 100W), and I have to say, that I will nevah go back using R/L cables.
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[Edited by Armini on 12-13-2000 at 12:04 PM]
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I pulled my old dvd player down and put the PS2 up and hooked in my old optical cable and all is fine. I had no sound on one game..that airplane one and I returned it. I think had I just switched the reciever to analog mode it would have worked but I didn\'t think of it so maybe some games don\'t have digital audio and in some cases you gotta switch the reciever back and forth from digital to analog.
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first off, even if you could get the ps2 to run in 5.1 surround, it doesn\'t mean that the games will utilize it. Only dvds will be about to run in 5.1, games will run in sterio unless the developers of games encode 5.1 into the games in order(sorry if mispelled) have surround for games, a very hard task indeed.
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Especially a game where the player\'s perspective is constantly changing. I figure that it can and will be done eventually though.
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I\'m using nothing but the optical output on my PS2 and the games sound fine when I\'m set up in Pro logic.
I can hear things on the left and right in Timespliters so far
as for Surround sound the Bouncer is the 1st game I know of using it
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Sure, you can hear sounds coming from all speakers but they\'re not surround. You\'re basically getting stereo sounds from all the speakers. Just because you getting sounds from all speaker, it does not mean that it\'s surround sound if you know i mean.
I use a computer equipped with sblive and dts 25000 speakers from cambrige. When i play bg2 with eax supports, it sounds awesome, when you move from one spot to another end of another spot, sound pans around the speakers, that\'s surround soud, in your case, when you play ps2 games, you\'re hear the same sound from all speakers. Well, like i said, eventually ps2 will have some games with surround support but it will be a hard task to do for ps2. For sblive, developers have to do is encode the eax emulation into the game and use sblive card to produce the surround sound. Ps2 does not have an dedicated 3d sound card the gaming part, but eventually they will some how figure it out
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Originally posted by raitl
Sure, you can hear sounds coming from all speakers but they\'re not surround. You\'re basically getting stereo sounds from all the speakers. Just because you getting sounds from all speaker, it does not mean that it\'s surround sound if you know i mean.
No **** sherlock, What I meant is I still get a stereo effect though my digital optical out.
I use a computer equipped with sblive and dts 25000 speakers from cambrige. When i play bg2 with eax supports, it sounds awesome, when you move from one spot to another end of another spot, sound pans around the speakers, that\'s surround soud, in your case, when you play ps2 games, you\'re hear the same sound from all speakers. Well, like i said, eventually ps2 will have some games with surround support but it will be a hard task to do for ps2. For sblive, developers have to do is encode the eax emulation into the game and use sblive card to produce the surround sound. Ps2 does not have an dedicated 3d sound card the gaming part, but eventually they will some how figure it out
The PS2 is completely capable of surround sound, its a DVD player as well as a gaming machine and is capable of Dolby Dgitial surround, as I said above the Bouncer will be in Surround and is coming out next month
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Madden for PS2 supports Surround sound (dolby pro logic). Jurassic Park for SNES supports Surround sound. DPL can be transmitted through 2 composite cables or toslink.
The Bouncer will be in DD Surround.
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Yeah THX, I was going to say that. There are tons of games that are encoded with analog surround sound, like EA sports games. It works great.
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The bouncer is not all the way surround sound, just the movie sequence or the ingame sequence, not the gameplay(i think). As for other games from snes, they use virtual surround like aureal 3d sound card, where you get 3d sound throught 2 speakers output. Well, anyway i don\'t want to argue on this topic. If you want a clear understanding, go read the interview with factor5 about sound at ign.com
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Ken Griffey\'s Slugfest for N64 was in full, 5 channel Dolby Surround, not simulated surround coming out of 2 speakers. You are used to playing PC games which favor simulated surround over true DPL/DD. http://ign64.ign.com/news/7379.html
As for Factor 5\'s comments, stated here (http://cube.ign.com/news/28757.html), they admit they have heard games supporting Dolby Surround, they just aren\'t impressed with the results. This is because it is harder to program for 3D voices. A sound chip capable of spitting out 256 2D voices may only output 64 3D voices. 3D as in Surround sound.
Also this (http://cube.ign.com/news/15778.html) news story which explains that Dolby intends for developers to "encode two-channel Dolby Pro Logic Surround in real-time and mix that with streaming Digital 5.1 Surround audio from the DVD disc." And before you start saying "Aha!, 2-channel!" DPL is encoded for transmission over 2 channels, but then decoded for 5 channels (center, front L, front R, rear L, rear R) via A/V receiver.
Where would we be without IGN? :)
[Edited by THX on 12-14-2000 at 08:15 PM]
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Don\'t you mean 4 channels THX? I\'m sure that\'s what you meant...
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ahh, 2channel. j/k :)
ok, i believe you
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Dolby- oh duhhh, thanks for correcting me man.