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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Eiksirf on December 30, 2005, 04:50:53 AM
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Pre-Christmas week in Japan. DS up, X360 way down.
The Nintendo DS has proven itself to be the must have toy in Japan, selling nearly 600,000 units in the week leading up to Christmas, and doubling the 300,000 sold last week.
The strong sales were driven by the software (particularly Animal Crossing and Mario Kart), with 5 of the top 10 software titles for Nintendo DS, and 7 of the top 10 for Nintendo hardware.
Also an interesting note, is the rapid drop in sales for the Xbox360, falling from 44,000 last week, to only 5,674 this week.
Hardware
DS - 597,628
PSP - 161,332
PS2 - 97,475
GCN - 36,646
GBASP - 35,764
GBM - 19,261
Xbox360 - 5,674
GBA - 906
Xbox - 141
Software
PS2 - Kingdom Hearts II, Square Enix - 727,591
DS - Animal Crossing: Wild World, Nintendo - 416,132
DS - Mario Kart DS, Nintendo - 302,742
PS2 - Naruto: Narultimate Hero 3, Bandai - 216,966
DS - Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Blue Rescue Force, Pokemon - 157,786
GBA - Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon: Red Rescue Force, Pokemon - 156,430
DS - Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop!, Bandai - 156,181
PS2 - Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence, Konami - 103,894
GCN - Mario Party 7, Nintendo - 100,130
DS - DS Training For Adults: Work Your Brain , Nintendo - 93,240
Note that the Japanese still love Square.
-Dan
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hungs psp "i still love u"
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:rofl: at 360
utter failure
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Those japs love their shit tiny.
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Damn, DS is killin em.
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Not to say that the DS isn\'t worth it for its own games, but Nintendo was really smart to include full GBA compatibility.
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Originally posted by mm
:rofl: at 360
utter failure
I imagine in America for the same week, X360 sales hovered right around zero.
-Dan
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DS > PSP.
Sales = King
360 > Failure
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"360 > failure"? So that would mean it\'s a success, since it\'s greater than a failure? :confused:
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Originally posted by mm
:rofl: at 360
utter failure
What is even funnier is the fact that the PS2 sold almost 20 times more consoles than Xbox360.
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and it\'s 5 years old.
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Talk about loyalty...
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Originally posted by Titan
What is even funnier is the fact that the PS2 sold almost 20 times more consoles than Xbox360.
yep, it\'s funny...and not so funny for MS....
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
DS > PSP.
Sales = King
360 > Failure
personal preference. i prefer psp over ds any day. Can run md, snes, nes, gba, neogeo etc and i\'m lovin it
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True. But you prefer the PSP as an emulator, not as a system in its own right.
And a random observation... this icon :bj: is SICK. *blrghh*
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
personal preference. i prefer psp over ds any day. Can run md, snes, nes, gba, neogeo etc and i\'m lovin it
As someone else said - you prefer it as an emulator, something it is not meant to do. You don\'t prefer it for the system itself or the games. Therefor, your point is moot. Leave this conversation to the non-Aussie\'s, the intelligent people.
:D
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I would love to see the sales figures for US and UK... that would throw a spanner in the works. Personally I prefer the DS... Myself and my wife ownes a DS and PSP each and the only PSP game that we really enjoy is Lumines and Burnout Legends... the rest I think is better buying for PS2. You see, Nintendo are releasing many DS games that can only be played on the DS and nothing else because of the touch screen and mic. I know Mario 64 DS was a lazy port, but the latest stuff is top class.
I honestly do not see Sony suffering in the near future as they a strong 3rd party line-up for the PSP. The DS is the other way around... the 3rd party is there, but the games are atrocious.
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I finally got started on GTA:LCS myself, but I just got Mario Kart DS and have already been playing that more.
And when I was in the store to pick it up (for 35 bucks you can\'t not get a game!) I kept seeing other titles and wishing I was spending more.
Mostly there\'s the new Mario and Luigi RPG and Castlevania DS.
DS still gets my vote.
-Dan
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
As someone else said - you prefer it as an emulator, something it is not meant to do. You don\'t prefer it for the system itself or the games. Therefor, your point is moot. Leave this conversation to the non-Aussie\'s, the intelligent people.
:D
Ehh how bout FU, don\'t tell me what i prefer. i bought it fully knowing what it was capable of doing, not my problem sony are tight wads. I also own around 20 PSP games, and i don\'t have a point, I have a opinion. Don\'t like it, don\'t read it.
As for Intelligent people :laughing: ok then..
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FUCK YOU LIC, YOU\'RE DUMB!
manyhoo, DS can also play SNES, NES and whatever.it plays GBA as a default design feture. and for another $90AU, it can play movies and MP3\'s. so DS > PSP.
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i don\'t have to pay $90AU extra to play movies or mp3s, i can even convert DVD movies and wack em on my psp. so psp > ds ;)
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yeah but PSP is 400 fucking dollars, so suck shit.
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in canadian?
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I thought it was 200 dollars.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
yeah but PSP is 400 fucking woodchips, so suck shit.
I see nothing wrong with what he said. I\'m pretty sure the currency exchange is about right.
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nevermind, he\'s talking woodchips
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Originally posted by Avatarr
yeah but PSP is 400 fucking dollars, so suck shit.
and worth every cent. Although u still missed the point.
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How is it worth every cent - if you can buy it cheaper than the PSP, then buy a mod to do what you are claimin\' to be "great" about the PSP and it\'ll still be cheaper! Not to mention a more solid library of games for the DS.
Common sense..
DS > PSP
Then again, I don\'t think you should be able to bring up non-convential uses as an argument in this matter.
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PSP > DS
DS is for kids, and adults that have 5 minutes to feel like a kid again
cost is moot, look at the diferences in screens. dual screens is a gimmick anyways
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I normally wouldn\'t agree with that anyway, mm.
But since I just picked up Mario Kart DS... Well, you\'re wrong.
Two screens is not a gimmick anymore. It\'s been put to good use. It\'d be like saying a wide screen on the PSP is a gimmick. Just not true.
The microphone is still a gimmick at this point, but touch controls and dual screens have paid off by now.
And I haven\'t even taken it online yet.
It\'s just a bad ass game, Mario Kart. 16 new tracks and 16 tracks from past games (SNES, N64, GBA, GCN) with tons of stuff to unlock. Multiple carts for everyone. And there\'s a mission mode I haven\'t tried yet.
I took a peek and the first one was like "drive through the 5 numbered rings" or something. That\'ll be different.
-Dan
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DS has nothing to do with number of tracks, old or new.
imagine if they used mini-dvd\'s and put 48 new tracks in?
having the map on the 2nd screen is moot.
put a much larger single screen in the unit and put the map in the corner like any other racing game.
the DS just gives me a headache while playing it. the graphics are terrible compared to the PSP.
i salute nintendo for trying to keep innovating, but they took a wrong path with the dual screens and trying to make all games work with it.
just like the rev controller, it\'s going to be a nightmare
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I love how certain games, even if they are ten times more fun than any other PSP and it\'s still a "kids" system. And fyi - there is plenty of games that take advtanage of the DS and stylus now and make it much more than a gimmick.
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I tried to play my PSP today. I wanted to give it a second chance, without buying any new games.
I couldn\'t.
Maybe once the next wave of games comes out.
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Originally posted by mm
DS has nothing to do with number of tracks, old or new.
imagine if they used mini-dvd\'s and put 48 new tracks in?
having the map on the 2nd screen is moot.
put a much larger single screen in the unit and put the map in the corner like any other racing game.
Having tried it, I think having the full-screen map is cooler than it looks at first. You can zoom it in and it works almost like a rear view mirror for dropping bananas and stuff in front of other racers. And there\'s a new item that covers your vision, but if you think of it, you can switch to the map screen and use the top down view to get by pretty well in the mean time.
BTW, with another format, Nintendo wouldn\'t have put in 48 new tracks. Look at GCN. There\'s usually only 16 courses. Doubling it up was a nice surprise, regardless of the system.
Actually, I\'m not sure what your problem is with the DS. It has lots of good games, many of which have some kind of feature or features unique to games on this platform.
The PSP will always have better specs, but for now, the DS is the better system.
-Dan
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Nevermind the game itself, MKDS\' graphics are very good as well.
Certainly much better than N64, and a rock-solid 60fps.
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btw, don\'t bring the revolution controller into this. revolution is going to be huge because of it. just watch.
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huge with the kids?
or huge meaning "number of controller accessories you have to buy"
you\'re comparing software (first party nintendo time old games), when i\'m talking hardware vs cost.
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uh no. you were saying that it\'ll be hard to make games work with the new controller. I\'m saying it won\'t.
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actually, i said we will have to buy a ton of accessories so every game "may possibly" work with it
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no you didn\'t.
but that\'s still wrong anyway. at most you\'ll need to buy one controller attachment to make it playalbe with all games from GC and back. I say \'at most\' because you can simply plug in any GC controller into the console itself, so you don\'t even need to buy an attachment. and from there onwards, no button based controller will be able to do what the new revolution controller can do. so you got it the wrong way around.
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yes...i did
i salute nintendo for trying to keep innovating, but they took a wrong path with the dual screens and trying to make all games work with it.
just like the rev controller, it\'s going to be a nightmare
every next gen controller can do what the rev controller can do, it\'s a free form analog stick
it\'s a gimmick
power glove 2.0
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analog sticks can\'t register depth, pitch, yaw nor track themselves in 3d space. they\'re also less precise and more difficult to control. shout gimmik as loud and as often as you possibly can because you won\'t be able to do it anymore once the thing actually comes out.
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I\'ll agree that the Revolution controller smells of gimmick - but I think it is plain idotic to dimiss the Nintendo DS as a great handheld, right now, the best handheld.
Oh well, can\'t please everyone.
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i swear ava does\'t read my posts
can i shout "3rd place again" too once it comes out?
:rofl:
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I know hay, LIC. If it\'s such a "wrong path" then why do so many people like it? It would\'ve been the "wrong path" if it was so arrogantly self indulligent as the Virgual Boy. DS is clearly not the "wrong path".
speaking of wrong though, WRONG ABOUT REVOLUTION!!!!!!! just you watch.
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I remember once people were saying stuff like N64 > PSX. Then after time, most if not all changed their minds. I foresee this happening with the DS / PSP Handhelds.
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actually people were saying N64 > PSX because N64 had better specs. now PSP is the one with better specs but it\'s not going to mean poo because DS is where all the fun games are.
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Avvy, do u own either psp or ds?
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i don\'t believe anyone over the age of 12 (at the time) thought N64 > PSX
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SNES > PSX
;]
-Dan
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omg :ballpunch
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Originally posted by mm
omg :ballpunch
lol good stuff
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Actually, I think a lot of people thought N64 > PSX for a good 6 months. Kind of like the Xbox 360\'s massive popularity, when most people cite a multi-platform title as its best. Newer and prettier with a killer app = popularity.
In the end, the PSX was the better console but I\'d say that the N64 was a good console in its own right. Better multiplayer, certainly.
Also, its 5 best games are probably better than PSX\'s 5 best.
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sounds like fighting words
care to list your your N64 top 5?
then the top 5 non-inhouse titles
:)
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i liked vagrant story
that is all
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Guys let MM have is sony opinion, you can\'t win with the guy, not that i dont love sony, but i own both DS and PSP and im just gonn have to go with DS.
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sony opinion?
i\'m a PC !!!!! remember?
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PC????Man!You suck!
Originally posted by Eiksirf
Pre-Christmas week in Japan. DS up, X360 way down.
Note that the Japanese still love Square.
-Dan
heh no PSP games in the top selling titles.Not strange at all
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In no particular order: Zelda:OoT, Mario 64, GoldenEye, Mario Kart 64, Banjo-Kazooie.
Just my personal top 5. I\'m leaving out stuff like Conker, Perfect Dark, Star Fox 64, etc.
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Banjo-Kazooie... now that was a good game.
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Eh?
It was terrible.
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I liked it. And the second one.
DK64. That was terrible.
A lot of people liked Jet Force Gemini, but I couldn\'t get into it.
I agree with Blade on the rest. Then there was Blast Corps and Mario Kart, too. The first Turok. The wrestling games. Mario Tennis.
N64 was cool. ;]
-Dan
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my fave N64 game was KI Gold. :}
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Just go on IGN and check out the 10/9/8-reviewed games.
For a "failure" of a system, it had a lot of quality titles. Almost all 1st/2nd-party.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
my fave N64 game was KI Gold. :}
of course it was, you\'re asian.
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haha, why do people always say that. >_<
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Everytime i was ever in timezone you\'d see 2 things on a KI machine.. . 2 asians...
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Hey, did you do something to your name? All I can see are diamonds instead of letters except for S and G.
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Here\'s an update on the handheld front:
Japan: New Mario Quickly Nears 1 Million Units
6/2/2006, 3:50pm Eastern Time
Brain Training has been a consistent performer on the Japanese sales charts, but a new classic is back on top.
New Super Mario Bros. followed up record-setting opening day numbers of 480,000 units by selling just under 900,000 units in its first week of release. At 899,518 copies, New Super Mario Bros easily outperformed the remainder of the top 10 selling games for the week: Mario\'s new platformer sold more than double the number of units of the remaining top 10 games combined.
DS Lite sales continued to dominate the hardware chart, taking advantage of Mario\'s success by selling over 285,000 units compared to 27,227 for Sony\'s PSP. DS games held six of the top 10 spots overall, with Brain Training 2 and Brain Training rounding out the top three.
Bad week for that PSP thing. DS outsold it ten to one.
Source (Japanese): http://www.m-create.com/jpn/s_ranking.html
-Dan
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PSP needs some games that resemble more of the simplicity we used to get in the past. I think thats one of the big problems with it.
But what PSP gets are the same console games we get on PS2. The experience doesnt feel as well on a handheld.
For example a Klonoa game would have been great on PSP probably an even better choice than Daxter.
DS succeeds so well because it offers just that. The old time classic Super Mario Bros gameplay is the best platform game money can get on a handheld. It fits so perfectly.
Simple and direct are what makes handheld gaming different and great.
Trying to get current and complicated console experience into a handheld just doesnt work well.
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That really is true. I have GTA: LCS for PSP, but after a couple missions, I just didn\'t want to play anymore. It offered nothing over its console brethren and the controls weren\'t as good.
IGN rated it high, but maybe because the game gets better... It just never hooked me. One day I should try again.......
-Dan
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Hate to say it, but I gotta go with Uni on this one. Handheld games just don\'t lend themselves to the 3D experience or even the more lenghty games. This applies to any handheld, just like Mario 64 DS, I could not get get into, just because I can\'t bring myself to play a 3D game on a handheld for a long period of time. Simple and effective, that is the key to a portable system and portable games. Sony overshot the target with the PSP.
Kolona 2, now that was a classic. The GBA games wasn\'t bad either. But what Sony really needs is something along the lines of the portable Castlevania series. All four of them have rocked hard on the Nintendo platforms and I would almost gurantee that the soon to be fifth will also be a hit.
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Oh yes! Castlevania is one game I want desperately to see on the PSP. Worked great on the PS1 with Symphony of the Night. I see no reason why it wouldnt work on PSP.
Besides if they want to use PSP\'s capabilities they can use 3D bakrounds just like Capcom VS SNK, with 2D sprite characters with some pretty good effects on Castlevania.
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In no particular order: Zelda:OoT, Mario 64, GoldenEye, Mario Kart 64, Banjo-Kazooie.
Just my personal top 5. I\'m leaving out stuff like Conker, Perfect Dark, Star Fox 64, etc.
I agree with that top 5 completely. Loved Majora\'s Mask too...dunno if I\'d put that above Banjo though.
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I liked it. And the second one.
DK64. That was terrible.
A lot of people liked Jet Force Gemini, but I couldn\'t get into it.
I agree with Blade on the rest. Then there was Blast Corps and Mario Kart, too. The first Turok. The wrestling games. Mario Tennis.
N64 was cool. ;]
-Dan
I didnt see this one earlier. They made a Donkey Kong 64? :eek:
How come I missed its existence?
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Wasn\'t that good.
Well some parts were pretty cool. Its a Rare game back when Rare still had talent so they did some moderately interesting things with it. But a lot of parts were just plain average. The final boss fight was a classic though.
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Oh yes! Castlevania is one game I want desperately to see on the PSP. Worked great on the PS1 with Symphony of the Night. I see no reason why it wouldnt work on PSP.
Besides if they want to use PSP\'s capabilities they can use 3D bakrounds just like Capcom VS SNK, with 2D sprite characters with some pretty good effects on Castlevania.
Hell, Castlevania:SOTN had some 3D effects, they could just port that over to the PSP and it\'d be an instant PSP classic. Not sure why Konami does not have any 2D games for the PSP or hell, for any home console for that matter. All the 2D ones for the GBA / DS are classics.
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i liked vagrant story
that is all
Still one of my favorite all time games, and Square has forever pissed me off for not making a 2nd.
and the Summoner on the PS2 launch. So many people wrote it off because it didn\'t live up to the hype of the PS2, but that game had a multiple character chain attack system that was more fun then Vagrant Story\'s IMO..... AND the storyline in the Summoner was awesome, still my favortie video game storyline.
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Still one of my favorite all time games, and Square has forever pissed me off for not making a 2nd.
and the Summoner on the PS2 launch. So many people wrote it off because it didn\'t live up to the hype of the PS2, but that game had a multiple character chain attack system that was more fun then Vagrant Story\'s IMO..... AND the storyline in the Summoner was awesome, still my favortie video game storyline.
I remember buying Summoner, I also remember having a headache due to the god awful pop up. Storyline seemed mildly interesting tho\'! I kept it around just for the magic missle extra .