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Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: hyper on February 12, 2006, 07:30:01 PM
Reading about our VP\'s recent fragfest rekindled an ongoing debate in me: is Cheney setting a double-standard by holding a hunting license while being anti-abortion? How can he claim to be pro-life and then proceed to get a thrill from killing animals?
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: videoholic on February 12, 2006, 07:52:04 PM
Um.  That\'s two completely different things.  Troll.
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: hyper on February 12, 2006, 07:55:08 PM
:rolleyes:
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: Titan on February 12, 2006, 07:56:35 PM
They are completely different. Humans are higher up on the food chain than a pheasant :p
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: mm on February 12, 2006, 07:56:52 PM
wtf

i hope you didnt think this stupid topic up yourself
:rpissed:
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: hyper on February 12, 2006, 08:11:33 PM
Enlighten me. According to Genesis, God gave man dominion over all animals. Fair enough. But many pro-lifers claim that not even an embryo, let alone a fetus, should be sacrificed because all life is precious. I\'m genuinely confused as to how people so vehemently protect a single cell yet so freely kill fully developed animals. Granted, that cell will develop into a fully fledged human being. But if all life is precious, what justice lies in killing an animal not for food, but for the thrill of the kill?

But that\'s just me.
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: Avatarr on February 12, 2006, 08:15:31 PM
all human life + pet life is precious.. maybe whales. stupid, non-endagered birds need to make their own weapons if they want to live.
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: JBean on February 12, 2006, 08:15:40 PM
human life is infinitely more valuable than a damn bird

you are wasting your time comparing the two
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: videoholic on February 12, 2006, 08:34:35 PM
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Originally posted by hyper
Enlighten me. According to Genesis, God gave man dominion over all animals. Fair enough. But many pro-lifers claim that not even an embryo, let alone a fetus, should be sacrificed because all life is precious. I\'m genuinely confused as to how people so vehemently protect a single cell yet so freely kill fully developed animals. Granted, that cell will develop into a fully fledged human being. But if all life is precious, what justice lies in killing an animal not for food, but for the thrill of the kill?

But that\'s just me.


You lost me on the second sentence.
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: Titan on February 12, 2006, 08:46:44 PM
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Originally posted by hyper
Enlighten me. According to Genesis, God gave man dominion over all animals.


Exactly. God (assuming he even exists) gave us rule over animals. Therefore we can shoot them :)
Title: Re: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: Viper_Fujax on February 12, 2006, 09:00:45 PM
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Originally posted by hyper
Reading about our VP\'s recent fragfest rekindled an ongoing debate in me: is Cheney setting a double-standard by holding a hunting license while being anti-abortion? How can he claim to be pro-life and then proceed to get a thrill from killing animals?


do you masturbate?

fucking baby killer...
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: hyper on February 12, 2006, 09:14:24 PM
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Originally posted by Avatarr
stupid, non-endagered birds need to make their own weapons if they want to live.


But from that perspective, how are human beings endangered? A baby is born every second. Why start a row over the life of one more?

I reiterate: hunting for food is perfectly fine. I\'m guilty of that - I eat meat every day. However, hunting (for phesants, deer , or a tiger) for hunting\'s sake then turning around to say "all life is precious" seems contradictory.
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: Viper_Fujax on February 12, 2006, 09:23:26 PM
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Originally posted by hyper
But from that perspective, how are human beings endangered? A baby is born every second. Why start a row over the life of one more?
 


wow

endangered= point of being extinct. Non-endangered animals have time to evolve some more, so he was making a joke that they should develop shooting talons in a million years..or maybe a steel chest..was a JOKE.

and i have no idea where the humans being endangered comes in..the weakest/dumbest do die (darwin awards), but in our age theres a lot more outside factors that kills/lets people live..and im pretty sure the area darwin didnt cover was incidental deaths that dont really have anything to do with survival of the fittest.

Ill try not to respond to the next post..or topics.
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: hyper on February 12, 2006, 09:29:09 PM
Right. His stance was that birds are not endangered, so we can shoot them. My stance is that since human beings are also not endangered, what great loss is one baby? Of course, I don\'t condone the killing of any human beings. Just looking at this from different perspectives.
Title: Abortion and hunting.
Post by: mm on February 13, 2006, 04:19:40 AM
before this gets (even more) ugly