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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: (e) on February 14, 2006, 10:35:23 PM
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for those of you who don\'t check the site regularly we can expect a may release.
Is anyone else as excited as me? If its even half-as good as Lateralus, we can expect an amazing album :D
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yeah I\'ve been following all the "news" of the album that\'s been out, really been looking forward to it. Kind of interested what if any involvement Josh Homme had with the album.
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Good. A Perfect Circle started to bring out too many albums to keep up with, and Tool is better anyway.
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They are gonna start touring soon and it looks like they will play at all the main festivals in Europe.
They\'re gonna play at the Pinkpop festival in Holland so I"ll buy my ticket for that as soon as it becomes available.
Tool is the main reason I\'m going so every big band that gets added to the list is just icing on the cake.
Only 5 or 6 names are already established for Pinkpop so a lot more big bands are probably coming.
I hope Tool won\'t play many new songs because I need to get used to the songs before I can fully appreciate them(kinda like Radiohead).
Whenever a new Tool record is released I usually lock myself in my room for 3 days and then come out wiser,more thankfull and spiritually recharged.
Listening to Tool is not a mere "passing time" for me.
It\'s a cultural,social,spiritual and deeply moving event.
Nuff said.
*Metal Gear is surprised at his ability to open up to a group of strangers*
I usually do that with my shrink.
:)
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Sorry for the double post.
My computer messed up.
Can somebody delete my first message?
Thanks.
edit- I tried to delete my message myself and it worked.
Hooray.
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Originally posted by Halberto
Good. A Perfect Circle started to bring out too many albums to keep up with, and Tool is better anyway.
They released 3 albums. 2 origional recordings, and a collection of cover songs.
Not exactly too many, but whatever...
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Well, too fast for my taste.
But anyways
Tool > A Perfect Circle
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Originally posted by Halberto
Well, too fast for my taste.
But anyways
Tool > A Perfect Circle
Not even same genre.
What\'s your point?
And there was a lenghty gap in bewteen Mer De Noms and 13th Step. It wasn\'t until aMotion and eMotive, that they rushed them out and one could hardly say aMotion was rushed as it was just a collection of remixes.
Originally posted by (e)
They released 3 albums. 2 origional recordings, and a collection of cover songs.
Not exactly too many, but whatever...
Get your facts before you post.
They released four albums.
Mer De Noms, Thirthteen Step, aMotion and eMotive.
That\'s four.
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A Motion was a remix disc, not done by any APC member, and not very good.
it was almost like the label said "hey, sales of emotive suck, lets remix some songs from thirteenth step and release it!"
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Originally posted by mm
A Motion was a remix disc, not done by any APC member, and not very good.
it was almost like the label said "hey, sales of emotive suck, lets remix some songs from thirteenth step and release it!"
Minus the fact they was planned at the same time and only released two weeks apart. The most accepted rumor is the fact that APC released aMotion to get out of their contract with Virgin. It did suck tho\', the only reason I even own it is because my fiance bought it for me along with the DVD of videos.
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emotive and amotion were both very poor... bleh...
oh yeah amotion isn\'t considered an album.
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Originally posted by (e)
emotive and amotion were both very poor... bleh...
oh yeah amotion isn\'t considered an album.
And why not?
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A Motion was a remix disc
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Defintion of album.
Full length CD, LP, or cassette. Usually 5 or more tracks.
aMotion still falls into that catergory.
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2 remixes of 3 different songs != full length
not an album
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1 "Judith [Renholder Mix]"
2 "3 Libras [Feel My Ice Dub Mix]"
3 "The Outsider [Apocalypse Mix]"
4 "Weak and Powerless [Tilling My Grave Mix]"
5 "The Outsider [Frosted Yogurt Mix]"
6 "Blue [Bird Shake Mix]"
7 "3 Libras [All Main Courses Mix]"
8 "The Hollow [Constantly Consuming Mix]"
9 "The Hollow [the Bunk Mix]"
Nine songs..
One Judith.
Two 3 Libras
Two The Outsider
One Blue
One Weak and Powerless
Two The hollow
That\'s nine "remixes" of six different songs.
The defiintion of an album is a cd / tape / lp that has more than five tracks. This cd, aMotion falls into that catergory, it may be a remix cd, but it is still an album an can be considered part of APC\'s catalog .
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the definition of a maxi-CD is that of a bullshit effort by a record label. they will include no original songs, several remixes of existing songs remixed by non band members, and throw in a lame DVD containing live footage which might get one full viewing. all this to charge an inflated price and rip off listeners much to thier ignorance.
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meh, as far as I\'m concerned there are only two APC albums.
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Originally posted by mm
the definition of a maxi-CD is that of a bullshit effort by a record label. they will include no original songs, several remixes of existing songs remixed by non band members, and throw in a lame DVD containing live footage which might get one full viewing. all this to charge an inflated price and rip off listeners much to thier ignorance.
\'cept Blue was remixed by Josh if I remember correctl, a band member.
;)
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Its still not a friggin\' album
Its called a compilation.
define compilation:
collection and assembling of preexisting materials or of data that are selected, coordinated, or arranged in such a way that the resulting work as a whole constitutes an original work of authorship.
nice try lic
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Originally posted by (e)
Its still not a friggin\' album
Its called a compilation.
define compilation:
collection and assembling of preexisting materials or of data that are selected, coordinated, or arranged in such a way that the resulting work as a whole constitutes an original work of authorship.
nice try lic
It\'s still an album tho\'.
It\'s still a release by an artist. You can call it a "compliation album", if you want, but it\'s still an album.
nice try, e.
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just because its\' released by an artist doesnt make it an album.
amotion is a DVD with a supplementary CD of remixed tracks.
besides that, all of those remixes (except 2) were previously released - it is only now that they are released \'together\' in a compilation.
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amotion is a DVD with a supplementary CD of remixed tracks.
You can buy aMotion without the DVD.
And it\'s at least three tracks that was unreleased before.
Never the less.........
It\'s an album.
Get over it.
A compliation album.
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whatever you suck
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not an album
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Whoa.......this thread is getting outta control.
Isn\'t anyone gonna comment on my ability to open up to you guys?
*Metal Gear is sitting in a corner crying*
:)
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Originally posted by (e)
whatever you suck
Whatever, you\'re an idiot.
Originally posted by mm
Is an album.
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its 3v1 im sorry, its not an album
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Originally posted by (e)
its 3v1 im sorry, its not an album
Don\'t care.
It\'s an album.
Get over it.
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okey dokey artichokey
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Vicarious is good, very much Meshuggah influenced
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I\'ve avoided listening to it. Will wait for the whole album..
In other news, APC is broke up for good it seems. Just read an interview where Maynard said he was goin to focus on Tool, Billy on his solo project and that doing two bands was "tiresome" and to much "hassle". He went into detail on why he didn\'t want to do another record with APC , so yeah...
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shame
APC > tool
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I don\'t know if I would say that, they are so different, but I will say that I love both Mer De Noms and 13th Step.
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I\'d rate them both fairly similarly. The fact that I\'ve only seen APC live, and not Tool might add a slight bias towards APC\'s music. Seeing as it\'s infinitely more gorgeous live. *shivers thinking about Blue and Orestes...
eMotive wasn\'t particularly great, but I\'ve enjoyed listening to a number of songs off of it immensely.
Arguing about the definition of an album is retarded.
Also: Going to save listening to them until I have the album in hand.
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Anyone heard the 30 second tease yet? There is supposed to be a song played on the radio monday.
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I\'d rate them both fairly similarly. The fact that I\'ve only seen APC live, and not Tool might add a slight bias towards APC\'s music. Seeing as it\'s infinitely more gorgeous live. *shivers thinking about Blue and Orestes...
eMotive wasn\'t particularly great, but I\'ve enjoyed listening to a number of songs off of it immensely.
Arguing about the definition of an album is retarded.
Also: Going to save listening to them until I have the album in hand.
Saw APC twice and they was amazing.
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I thought Tool was better live than APC, but that might just be me.
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new tool song\'s alright..i get bored with a lot of their songs after a while..even good songs like the patient.
Think i like APC more..
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For the first time, I will say that a TOOL album sucks.
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there\'s rumor that it\'s fake. I mean..vicarious er whatever does sound like another song theyve made before. Would they go through all the trouble of mixing the songs if they werent the ones they ere releasing? i doubt it..itd be a huge waste of time if they did..but i wouldnt put it past them.
Im not that big of a fan so i dont really care either way..but im going to look at peoples reactions when the cd comes out to see if the songs are the same er what. The reason people got the idea the songs were fake is because the drummer said he had some solo er something, and none of the songs on the leaked copy have a drum solo..iv only heard vicarious so i cant say myself..
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well I wouldn\'t go as far to say that the album sucks, while nowhere near their previous offerings it\'s still has some good songs on it, Vicarious, Jambi, The Pot and Right in Two are very nice songs.
The rumours that these are fake, well I\'d like that it was that this was just something they were playing around with but I very much doubt it, the production on these songs is top notch.
Some people seem to expect some incredible things from the band.... such as recording a whole album just to leak it on the internet before the real one is released... I mean C\'mon.
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I\'ll give it another listen, but it just does not live up to what I expect from TOOL.
As for being fake - I think most are just in denial, that for the first time, a TOOl album doesn\'t just plain rock.
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I saw TOOL at lollapalooza back in the mid to late 90\'s... aenima just came out that summer. Maynard was cross-dressing as a woman with big tits and a long ponytail. He kept talking about getting his d!ck cut off and becoming a woman.
Suffice to say it was an awesome show... a little wierd, but very amazing with my front row tickets.
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For the first time, I will say that a TOOL album sucks.
*gasp* Sucks? C\'mon not even you are that critical.
I have been listening to 10,000 days nonstop since I acquired it...
My first 100 listens I was kind of dissappointed, but still liked the material.
Then I realised how great this album really is. It has grown on me so much, I don\'t think I have listened to anything else - or I have, but only decided to change it back to 10,000 days. Honestly, my favorite TOOL work to date. This album is so different, its another side of TOOL. This album has much more subtle effects than any other album, definetley something you should listen to full blast.
I can\'t wait until its actually released, the artwork tool includes with all of their releases is just a treat as the music :)
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*gasp* Sucks? C\'mon not even you are that critical.
I have been listening to 10,000 days nonstop since I acquired it...
My first 100 listens I was kind of dissappointed, but still liked the material.
Then I realised how great this album really is. It has grown on me so much, I don\'t think I have listened to anything else - or I have, but only decided to change it back to 10,000 days. Honestly, my favorite TOOL work to date. This album is so different, its another side of TOOL. This album has much more subtle effects than any other album, definetley something you should listen to full blast.
I can\'t wait until its actually released, the artwork tool includes with all of their releases is just a treat as the music :)
Music has to grab me. I am not going to make myself listen to something twenty times to either "get it" or what not. The album is extremyl dissapointing.
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ok, listening to the new TOOL now... not sure what to think. I like the music, but why the fuck does Maynard scream unintelligable shit the whole time. Dude has one of the best voices i\'ve ever heard, this is a letdown so far.
Jambi is pretty good. It\'s definately TOOL though, people holding out that this is fake are dumb... although I wish it was :(
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so you don\'t like any of the songs?
Jambi, right in two, the pot are all good... need to listen to more of this. I\'m liking it so far. The first batch of songs I heard weren\'t the real songs.
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I don\'t think I liked any of my very favourite albums after listening to them once.
Truely great albums require multiple listens to be enjoyed to their fullest. L-I-C, I expect you should know this.
Having said that, I haven\'t listened to this album yet. Waiting until I buy it.
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Music has to grab me. I am not going to make myself listen to something twenty times to either "get it" or what not. The album is extremyl dissapointing.
i agree man. Sometimes i do have to listen to things 3 times MAX to get into it, and then i realize is a great album. But this whole "their brains are too complex and i had to listen to it 40 times to realize how brilliant they are" following tool seems to have is kind of annoying. Not saying u specifically, (e).
Im still going to give the album a chance, maybe borrow it from my friend and listen to it a couple times.
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Eh?
My favorite albums are ones that I enjoyed from the start.
I\'ll give it another listen or two, but I won\'t continue to listen to it just so I "grasp" it and enjoy it. That\'s silly. The music and lyrics all lack the impact I expect from TOOL.
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I think you expected too much.
Its a great album, what is wrong with it? nothing.
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I heard the whole new album sounds like it\'s gonna be a good one.
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I\'ve found albums I enjoyed immediately lost their appeal much more quickly than those that required multiple listens.
My very favourite albums, such as Kid A (Radiohead) and Remain in Light (Talking Heads) were majorly underwhelming at first listen.
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I think you expected too much.
Its a great album, what is wrong with it? nothing.
Nothing?
Must be nice being blind and deaf.
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Blind too?
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I guess to the artwork on the CD sleeve sucks too....
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After several listens I can say that I enjoy this album quite a bit. It\'s different from their past albums, but that\'s nothing new. Listening to this CD cranked or with headphones brings out all these cool ambient and background voices. Tons of production value... 7/10 in my book
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I stopped listening to it for a couple of days, suddenly felt the need to dig up some old Primus stuff.
But starting to listen to the album again I relised.... I like the album still haven\'t gotten into the Wings songs but my previously mentioned songs are very good.
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I\'m with LiC on this one. I\'m no hardcore Tool fan, but I know what I like and a cd with 2 or 3 good songs doesn\'t make the overall product great. Sorry, but this is dissapointing considering their last few albums were really damn good.
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i am a quite a tool devotee.
the thing that makes me continue to listen to this album is the continuality. at least to me, the album is an epic hour long song.
every other tool album seems dissected, not in a negative way. this album just flows.
i like it, :P
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i am a quite a tool devotee.
the thing that makes me continue to listen to this album is the continuality. at least to me, the album is an epic hour long song.
every other tool album seems dissected, not in a negative way. this album just flows.
i like it, :P
]i am a quite a tool devotee.
Thank you for summing up every one of your posts in this thread. The album could be terrible and you\'d find a reason to like it. Bravo to you.
And the only song I can tolerate is \'The Pot\' and I\'m not really sure that I would consider it a great song.
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Speaking of tool...
I picked up the Parabola and Schism dvds (9.99 each) yesterday. Even though I have seen both the music videos before, they contain (rather strange) commentary, and a cool remix.
Wondering if they will release a music video for this album... ?
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For those that are interested, or unawares:
The album was released here yesterday, and I picked it up today after work. I\'ve only had time to listen to one song (and seeing as most people agreed on The Pot being a good song, I picked that one) and it was excellent. Previously I have heard Vicarious and while it too is a decent song I feel somewhat disappointed purely by the fact that it isn\'t that huge step forward. It has a very similar texture to it that Lateralus had. Which isn\'t a bad thing given that Lateralus is my personal favourite album of theirs, but given the time between albums and the hype and whatnot, I was hoping for more than Lateralus ver. B.
Again, though, this is only first impression of two songs, and overall it\'s extremely positive. Unfortunately I won\'t really be able to give a concrete impression of what I think of the album for a couple of weeks until it sinks in. :)
However, I can talk about the album artwork; which is excellent. Again, very Lateralus-ish in some respects with some other nice imagery which isn\'t completely congruous with their previous efforts. However, what makes it truely exceptional is the inclusion of stereophonic glasses on the front cover which when folded and viewed through correctly gives the pictures inside the booklet an incredible 3-D look. And it truely does look incredible. Their best effort yet, IMO.
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Iv only listened to it once. not THAT bad like LIC was saying. But most of the songs are just decent, nothing special.
But i do like 10,000 days (the song) a lot..really good song. Wings is good too. Vicarious for the first 3 minutes is great..the rest, meh. Jambi and the pot are above average, but not insanely good. Havent listened to the last 3 songs in depth.
Was kind of hoping for a H or Eulogy kind of song.
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i think ur excellent bobbo raar
and when i say excellent i mean MANTASTIC
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The album doesn\'t have the accessability of Aenima, nor the quality of Lateralus. It\'s stuck somewhere inbetween the two, and I\'m not sure what I\'m supposed to think of it. I do enjoy it though.
Jumpy, I really like you a lot, too. I think of you as my little buddy and I promise to care for you and nurture you whenever you feel down or lonely. Please be my baby tonight, for I enjoy you as a person, and as a lover. Be mine forever, and I\'ll return the favour, with considerable interest. Kisses and hugs.
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oh wow, what has this thread gotten into.
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The album doesn\'t have the accessability of Aenima, nor the quality of Lateralus. It\'s stuck somewhere inbetween the two, and I\'m not sure what I\'m supposed to think of it. I do enjoy it though.
I think the word you are looking for is..........
"Average"
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The only reason this album isn\'t being received as so great is because it contains some of Tool\'s heaviest music, along with their softest moments....
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Or maybe its not being received as so great because its um, not so great.
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from 3:52-6:00 on 10,000 days is probably the only highlight on the cd (but you have to listen to the first 3:51 to enjoy it). Addicted to this damn song. The rest is..what LIC said.
lost keys couldve been shortened from 3 minutes to..30 seconds. and intension is boring.
but..10,000 days makes up for it.
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The only reason this album isn\'t being received as so great is because it contains some of Tool\'s heaviest music, along with their softest moments....
That is the worst excuse ever. You are one of those blind fans who just try to make up excuses for an album not to live up to the hype or potenial of the band. Look, I love Tool, but I\'m not deaf and I know that this album is a complete dissapointment. If it was any other band, it would be passable, but with Tool people expect an album of quality and this just does not deliver.
Another poster on a different forum said this and I agree with it.
"As a collection of B-sides this would be..decent.. As a new Tool album, it\'s simply marginal."
So true.