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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ddaryl on April 10, 2006, 11:08:39 PM
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This is a plug, but its a great deal especially for someone who is looking to pick up a PS2 package at little cost
17 games
2 mem card
2 controllers
1 DVD remote package
1 FF GT Steering Wheel
and a bonus launch PS2 that still limps along, but has the occasional Disk Read Error. The PS2 system is only a bonus, I wouldn\'t try to sell a busted PS2, but figured someone might be able to tinker with it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8275992052&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
If you know such a person would you kindly refer them to my auction, I need to fund my Xbox 360 and future PS3 purchases... so it\'s for a great cause
Thanks
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all that for 1 cent?
But only $69 shipping cost?
Added: heh, why not just give it away if you are willing to sell it for one cent? Like to your friends, neighbors, relatives? Anybody at work, school...etc...or send it to me, j/k.:D
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wtf are you talking about?
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for shame ddaryl, for shame
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you know creatine makes your balls shrink, right?
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all that for 1 cent?
But only $69 shipping cost?
Added: heh, why not just give it away if you are willing to sell it for one cent? Like to your friends, neighbors, relatives? Anybody at work, school...etc...or send it to me, j/k.:D
You don\'t know how ebay works do you? It\'s just the opening bid, I start all my auctions at 1 cent too.
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I hope you have a reserve on this Ddaryl. I don\'t imagine you\'re gonna get enough to fund your Xbox360 and PS3 stuff.
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You don\'t know how ebay works do you? It\'s just the opening bid, I start all my auctions at 1 cent too.
well, i know how it works since it\'s quite popular. But at least, start higher than 1 cent. What if there is only one bidder that only bid $1.00? So far I see it up to $10.01 now. Lets see how it goes before the bidding end...
its kind of a like gambling for some decent amount of cash...but starting the bid at 1 cent is pretty risky in my opinion...
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I dont fully get it because iv never tried. I was going to for my video card but decided it wasnt worth it..plus id have to make the page all spiffy to hype it up and get as much money as possible, which i cant do.
im pretty sure you dont have to sell it if it doesnt reach a certain amount. But iv seen a lot of people start at 1 cent so they obviously get the money they intended on getting from it.
Id actually do more of your things separate..might get more for it. Then again..iv never done ebay so i wouldnt know if thatd work.
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I hope you have a reserve on this Ddaryl. I don\'t imagine you\'re gonna get enough to fund your Xbox360 and PS3 stuff.
I know that. I\'m only trying ot get back what I can. I figured I\'ll make more then I would trading it in at Gamestop, AND I sold an Xbox 360 on ebay during launch for $880 which funded my Xbox 360 system
Its just ot help fund my future gaming needs.
The shipping is expensive, but it includes insurance. The box will be relatively large, but I imagine I will make about $15 on the shipping.
If I clear $100 I\'ll be happy, anything over that is a bonus
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you know creatine makes your balls shrink, right?
and L-Glutamine gives me rock hard wood
it\'s a trade off :p.
Actually I\'ve never hear about Creatine an testicle shrinking. That\'s more steroid based.
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I dont fully get it because iv never tried. I was going to for my video card but decided it wasnt worth it..plus id have to make the page all spiffy to hype it up and get as much money as possible, which i cant do.
im pretty sure you dont have to sell it if it doesnt reach a certain amount. But iv seen a lot of people start at 1 cent so they obviously get the money they intended on getting from it.
Id actually do more of your things separate..might get more for it. Then again..iv never done ebay so i wouldnt know if thatd work.
Watch my auction, things will slowly bump up little by little then in the last day and particuarly that last few miutes of the auction there will be a bit of a freeding frenzy and the price will bump a bit.
I decided on the whole package instead of seperate sales cause some people who see lots of stuff perceive the value to be higher and a better deal. Old PS2 games don\'t sell for much and I don\'t want to screw with 20 seperate auctions. My PS2 stuff is just collecting dust and won\'t be used again, I never look back on video games, present and future for me.
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I always go back to old games. Its fun to reminice and play. I sometimes still play NES and Genesis from time to time.
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Beh ! MGS3 Subsistence is still due in PAL land. June is the rumour :confused:
Okami is also still expected. I still need to pick up RE4 and SotC. It\'ll also take
some time for PS3 to reach PAL gamers I guess.
I\'ll hold on to my PStwo for ...ever !
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I always go back to old games. Its fun to reminice and play. I sometimes still play NES and Genesis from time to time.
i\'ve done that a few times with my turbo duo...but the cd player in that thing is shot...even when i clean the lens the games won\'t play properly...:(...but even when i throw in the turbo-chip games i can only play them for a little while,...those games back then had little depth to them...only game i really enjoyed from that era was flashback, out of this world and mike tyson\'s punchout,...and madden 92.....and uhm splatterhouse....well now that i think about it, there were quite a few games i did enjoy...
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I have debated on sellin\' my PS2 / 3DO / Virtual Boy stuff, but hell, I hate the idea of taking a loss on that stuff, so instead, it sits in my closet boxed up. Plus I\'m hopeful that my girls will want to play a 3DO eventually.
:D
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If you ever change your mind on the 3DO and VB stuff, drop me a line. ;]
-Dan
/just sayin
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well, i know how it works since it\'s quite popular. But at least, start higher than 1 cent. What if there is only one bidder that only bid $1.00? So far I see it up to $10.01 now. Lets see how it goes before the bidding end...
its kind of a like gambling for some decent amount of cash...but starting the bid at 1 cent is pretty risky in my opinion...
It\'s never a gamble. A good deal attracts people, you just have to be patient.
If a person was to goto EB games or something and buy everything I\'m selling used they would pay $200
I\'ve done this more thenonce, and I\'ve never been reamed. Ebay gets alot of hits
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If you ever change your mind on the 3DO and VB stuff, drop me a line. ;]
-Dan
/just sayin
I think the 3DO is around 200 some games, I don\'t remember the exact number of games. The Virtual Boy is every domestic game released.
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Whoa.
VB I can see, but I had no idea there were so many 3DO games. I doubt I would want to afford the cost of lifting that particular collection off you.
-Dan
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you know creatine makes your balls shrink, right?
Except NOT.
all that for 1 cent?
But only $69 shipping cost?
You\'ve never used eBay, apparently. Generally, when you list it for 1 cent, not only is it super cheap to list the item, you get a LOT of bids...and it ends up being much higher in the end. If he were to list it at...say...200...the list price would suck.
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true that i never used ebay before nor had i ever bid before. I can understand what you mean, but i wouldn\'t expect it to bid at 1 cent, which is the cheapest of the cheap, and next to being free.
Even bidding $10 is still very cheap and i would be surprise too if something bid that less, but at least it\'s less riskier than 1 cent...
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It is a risk, but it entices a lot more people to bid on the item. If you start it at 200, you are more likely to get NO bids.
You are making bank on your shipping charges, ddaryl.
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I am not saying he should start at $200. But at least start higher than 1 cent, imo.
Like $30, where is still very cheap and still can draw more bidders too. for $30, one can buy two greatest hit games if it goes on sale. But if you bid a good amount of library of games with the console and the steering wheel, $30 is like a steal if you start off at $30 instead of 1 cent. That\'s what i mean bidding higher than 1 cent, but not too high still lure a lot of bidders too.
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The 1 cent thing is a "trick of the trade", so to speak.
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If all else fails he could just get a friend to bid say $100 or whatever he thinks should be the minimum amount.
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If all else fails he could just get a friend to bid say $100 or whatever he thinks should be the minimum amount.
Another trick of eBay. ;)
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If all else fails he could just get a friend to bid say $100 or whatever he thinks should be the minimum amount.
LMAO
my wife bid $68.. Sold it for $69 + $69 shipping and Handling. AFter shipping I\'m left with $100 profit and less crap laying around my house.
Probably would\'ve been lucky to trade all that in for $100, so it was a wash IMO, and someone else got the deal instead of Gamestop.
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LMAO
my wife bid $68.. Sold it for $69 + $69 shipping and Handling. AFter shipping I\'m left with $100 profit and less crap laying around my house.
Probably would\'ve been lucky to trade all that in for $100, so it was a wash IMO, and someone else got the deal instead of Gamestop.
That\'s shill bidding, and can get any accounts involved in it deleted by ebay.
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everybody shill bids.. and overcharges for shipping because ebay and paypal can\'t take a cut of that. Get over it
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well personally, that\'s just one of the reasons I stay the hell away from ebay. can\'t really trust anybody
half.com ftw
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ummm, half.com is ebay
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ahah
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knew someone would say that :gfight:
half states a firm price, no bidding, no sniping, no shills, etc... items are also pre-arranged according to quality
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well personally, that\'s just one of the reasons I stay the hell away from ebay. can\'t really trust anybody
half.com ftw
... A good deal is a good deal, If you know what the value of what you are bidding on, and you kow what a good deal is then what does that matter.
If other people squeeze you out, and it doesn\'t cost ya a dime then you can be dissapointed, but it\'s not like you lost money. I\'ve always made out on ebay. Shop there quite alot, and I always save cash.
Bottom line if you are dumb enough to over bid something without kowing its value you deserve to get burned.
I did bid up my auction, to protect myself, but $138 for all the PS2 I was selling was a GREAT DEAL, and nobody could go into Gamestop and buy all the stuff I was selling used for the price the winner paid.
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I guess money isn\'t really a concern to ddaryl when he try to sell all his ps2 stuffs. He just want to get rid all of his ps2 stuffs, and i guess why not just sell it on ebay and make some little cash. which is better than threw it away or give it away to his relative or neighbor\'s for free.
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Not necessarily better than giving it to a friend or relative, but usually more profitable.
-Dan
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profitable? I am not sure about that since the money he spent on buying the ps2 console alone is worth more than how much money he sell not only his ps2 console, but all of his ps2 games, and accessories.
Which combine together when he first bought should cost more than $1,000.
But he only made $69 on them, and it seems like he also made some profits on the shipping too. Not sure how is that possible since Ddarly have to spend that shipping money on the mail delivery building or whatever that is call...i don\'t know...
but again, not profitable.
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Yeah shipping was $24 and expenses we\'re about $10 in ebay, and paypal fees. I figured I made $105 or so bucks, which like I said before is better then giving it to Gamestop and allowing them to profit IMO.
Gaming is an expensive hobby to keep up with. My new HDTV TV, new surround receiver and XBox 360 put me back over $4000. So scraping some cash together from stuff I no I will never use again is the only thing to do IMO.
In hindsight... yeah I probably have at least a $1000 invested in everything I sold, but I easily got $1000 worth of entertainment out of that money spent and made a $100 back.
the guy who bought it paid $138, This guy can easily make most of that $138 back when he\'s ready to resell. The winner got a great deal IMO
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I wouldn\'t have bid simply cause of the shipping. A lot of people get turned off of auctions when they see some \'uber deal\' but the shipping is clearly way over the actual cost.
As to your justification of \'protecting yourself\' you are just defining the reason shill bidding is not allowed. You take a risk when you start an auction at 1c no reserve. If you want to protect yourself, put in a reserve price, or start the auction higher.
Sheesh.
*edit* spelling.
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the guy who bought it paid $138, This guy can easily make most of that $138 back when he\'s ready to resell. The winner got a great deal IMO
yeah, lets just hope the buyer didn\'t resell his stuffs to gamestop. J/K. I know what you mean, it doesn\'t really matter, since he still might makes more profit reselling it because he bought it cheap.
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As to your justification of \'protecting yourself\' you are just defining the reason shill bidding is not allowed. You take a risk when you start an auction at 1c no reserve. If you want to protect yourself, put in a reserve price, or start the auction higher.
Sheesh.
And the end result would be different how?
I don\'t see why you whine such about it. Either you get a good deal or you don\'t. Tough luck.
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yeah, lets just hope the buyer didn\'t resell his stuffs to gamestop. J/K. I know what you mean, it doesn\'t really matter, since he still might makes more profit reselling it because he bought it cheap.
gamestop wouldn\'t give you have of what he got for it on ebay. If that guy who won the auction were to sell each individual piece seperate (on ebay) he\'d probably make a good 30% more on it total.
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Shill bidding screws over the idea of a \'great deal\' which was the thing that made ebay so attractive/successful.
Someone who uses shill bidders in effect, has a reserve price that isn\'t stated on thier auctions. So if you are bidding and winning, and going to get a good deal they yoink it at the last second.. and they can keep doing that until they get the price they want. So it screws all the folks who should have won the item when it was cheaper, and scews ebay out of the reserve fee (which they will use as justification when they want to raise fees for everyone else).
Article 1 (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/shills.html)
The use of shill bids in on-line auctions illegally drives up prices and defrauds consumers...
In another civil case, Richard Eggleston, Darryl Lien, and David Printy, together with a related corporation, Daryl Lien, Inc., agreed to pay more than $28,000 in penalties and restitution for their shill bidding practices.
Article two - Shill bidding as it screws sellers (http://searchwarp.com/swa12442.htm)
Shill bidding deal is a 21st century version of a confidence game. The purpose of shill bidding is to buy merchandise at an artificially low price which can then be resold for a healthy profit. It involves either two different buyers or one buyer who possesses two different eBay IDs.
Ebay\'s Policy (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/seller-shill-bidding.html)
Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:
* Listing cancellation
* Limits on account privileges
* Account suspension
* Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
* Loss of PowerSeller status
* Referral to Law Enforcement
Article 3 (http://www.bencatt.com/shill.php)
This technique is known as shill bidding and is against eBay rules - indeed it is classed as fraud.
If you are found to be doing this it is very probable that your eBay account will be suspended....
Consequences for serious shill bidding? (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/Fetterman_indict.htm)
Article 4 (http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abu/y200/m11/abu0025/s06)
shill bidding is one of the most frowned-upon practices in the auction world, both real and online
Definition of Shill (fraud) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill)
Shilling is an even larger problem in online auctions, where any user with multiple accounts (and IP addresses) can shill without aid of participants. Many online auction sites employ sophisticated (and usually secret) methods to detect collusion, and a number of people have been sent to jail for online auction fraud in the past decade.
Simply put, look at my occupation, perhaps you will \'understand\' my viewpoint, but shill bidding is fraud. Fraud is fraud, whether it\'s for 15 dollars or 500 dollars, and people who are stealing 500 started somewhere. Currently I\'m doing online work, although not related to fraud, and one thing I\'ve come to realize is how much people do things online they would never try in real life. Would you risk showing up at an auction house and shill bidding with your girlfriend? For some reason the fact that they don\'t physically have to be there to break the law online seems to make it just that much easier.
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I wouldn\'t have bid simply cause of the shipping. A lot of people get turned off of auctions when they see some \'uber deal\' but the shipping is clearly way over the actual cost.
As to your justification of \'protecting yourself\' you are just defining the reason shill bidding is not allowed. You take a risk when you start an auction at 1c no reserve. If you want to protect yourself, put in a reserve price, or start the auction higher.
Sheesh.
*edit* spelling.
LOL!
I do what\'s best for me the way I choose to do it. I also raise my middle finger to those who dis-approve... I DON\'T CARE.
All of those shill bidding quiotes you posted are only greasing ebay\'s bottom line, and it\'s my bottom line I care about not ebay\'s
If I was a business with a bunch to lose I wouldn\'t do it, but in this case I do what I do.
The FACT IS with shipping being high the deal was still great, and I saved considerable money on ebay fee\'s, which I gleefully enjoy doing since they add cost to me when it comes to "reserve price" and "buy it now" auctions. There are too many ebay fee\'s and they are too expensive and I have no problem skimming them when I can because they are the ones that continually overcharge. However the price of my auction increased and ebay made more because of this.
Sheesh
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Could someone whine about the shill bidding ANYMORE?
Come on. Get over it.
And the guy got a good deal.
Let\'s see, a new PS2 is a 130 bucks.
This guy bought one along with games for that price.
Waaaaaaaa-shill bidding.
Big cry baby.
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LOL!
I do what\'s best for me the way I choose to do it. I also raise my middle finger to those who dis-approve... I DON\'T CARE.
Sheesh
Well, since you know you\'re breaking the law when you do it, and apparanly show little remorse for it, I\'m just glad you don\'t live anywhere near me. You\'re *probably* only breaking the law where you can easily get away with it (online), but hell, maybe you defraud senior citizens as a day job cause it\'s easy to do and "best" for you. The law is the law.
Could someone whine about the shill bidding ANYMORE?
Well, it seems that if you can\'t actually defend something illegal with arguements, be they on virtue of morals (almost impossible), justification (difficult, and subjective), or anything, you are going to just rely on namecalling. Looks pretty dumb though, when somone who bothers to understand the issue looks at your reply. Don\'t worry about it though, you clearly aren\'t going to ever understand the issue since you clearly just don\'t want to know.
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are you the internet police or something? Got a lot of stock in ebay?
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Well, since you know you\'re breaking the law when you do it, and apparanly show little remorse for it, I\'m just glad you don\'t live anywhere near me. You\'re *probably* only breaking the law where you can easily get away with it (online), but hell, maybe you defraud senior citizens as a day job cause it\'s easy to do and "best" for you. The law is the law.
Well, it seems that if you can\'t actually defend something illegal with arguements, be they on virtue of morals (almost impossible), justification (difficult, and subjective), or anything, you are going to just rely on namecalling. Looks pretty dumb though, when somone who bothers to understand the issue looks at your reply. Don\'t worry about it though, you clearly aren\'t going to ever understand the issue since you clearly just don\'t want to know.
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I udnerstand the issue and what not - I just don\'t care. You need to get your panties out of a bunch.
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So how many here hasn\'t broken the law at least once in their life....raise your hand.
oh, nobody? great.
Quit bitching about shill bidding as if its a crime against nature (I especially enjoyed you desperately trying to associate that with frauding elderly people. It really tugged on my emotions.) Fact is, everyone here has done something illegal online or otherwise, but there is absolutley no reason get all worked up about it. In this case esepecially since despite the fact it was illegal, the buyer still got a good deal out of it.
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So how many here hasn\'t broken the law at least once in their life....raise your hand.
oh, nobody? great.
Quit bitching about shill bidding as if its a crime against nature (I especially enjoyed you desperately trying to associate that with frauding elderly people. It really tugged on my emotions.) Fact is, everyone here has done something illegal online or otherwise, but there is absolutley no reason get all worked up about it. In this case esepecially since despite the fact it was illegal, the buyer still got a good deal out of it.
Fraud against the elderly is just cool, they\'re easy prey.
:)
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I guess we\'re just going to have to agree to disagree on whether or not fraud is acceptable.
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I guess we\'re just going to have to agree to disagree on whether or not fraud is acceptable.
We can all agree on one thing.
You\'re a whiney ho, yo.
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Muh huh.
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That\'s the best emoticon ever.