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Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: THX on April 17, 2006, 06:57:27 AM
http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/16/toshiba-hd-a1-hd-dvd-player-goes-topless/

Toshiba\'s ~$500 player is already being sold, with software said to be released tomorrow (maybe already).  I\'m gonna hang tight for blu-ray and the ps3, just to support the better format, but I have to admit I\'m anxious to try this out on my TV! :ele:
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: mm on April 17, 2006, 07:32:49 AM
hi HD-DVD!  meet your deceased cousin
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Titan on April 17, 2006, 10:03:38 AM
HD-DVD ain\'t gonna last. It doesn\'t even have that much support in the movie industry, does it.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: videoholic on April 17, 2006, 11:36:32 AM
Bah...  It\'s a goner.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Titan on April 17, 2006, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: videoholic
Bah...  It\'s a goner.


For a second I thought that said \'boner\'
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Paul2 on April 17, 2006, 03:40:40 PM
interesting that this hd-dvd player uses intel pentium chip, 1 GB DDR RAM.  I guess as electronic technologies gets more advance and computer chips are also getting more advance and cheaper that now they blend in more than i thought.

Maybe using computer chip like Intel Pentium and RAM that are similiar to a computer parts help reduce the production cost, yet still give similiar performance.

I got the feeling starting now and into the next coming months, things will be getting very interesting as more Blu Ray and HD-DVD players start to come out and movies in those format starting to come out too.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Titan on April 17, 2006, 04:28:15 PM
In future news, blu-ray beats the shit out of HD-DVD.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on April 17, 2006, 04:41:33 PM
$50 says this doesn\'t last a year
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Paul2 on April 17, 2006, 08:14:57 PM
performance wise or competition wise?  competition wise, maybe.  Like many of you here, I am more in favor with Blu Ray over HD-DVD.

But longevity and performance wise, i think it should last longer than a year, much longer...since it looks like it built like a tank, the big heatsink and stuff..
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Titan on April 17, 2006, 08:29:09 PM
But blue ray will hav the same shit in it prombaly.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Paul2 on April 17, 2006, 08:54:29 PM
that is of course, since most blu ray starting price is $1,000 and over.  So, you can expect better quality case, and better build quality, especially internally.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Soul Reaver on April 17, 2006, 10:11:17 PM
Man, what?

I\'m all for blu-ray but I really don\'t understand what all the "the HD-DVD format is a goner" comments are about. Remember the whole Beta-Max/VHS fiasco? Most consumers go for the best price, which this one will look to have.

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that is of course, since most blu ray starting price is $1,000 and over. So, you can expect better quality case, and better build quality, especially internally.

ehh

Better build? Better technology, definitely, but a better build isn\'t going to be a supporting factor.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: ddaryl on April 17, 2006, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: Default
Man, what?

I\'m all for blu-ray but I really don\'t understand what all the "the HD-DVD format is a goner" comments are about. Remember the whole Beta-Max/VHS fiasco? Most consumers go for the best price, which this one will look to have.





Beta never enjoyed an almost 100 million homes guarantee via the Playstation 3.


Sony\'s PS3 is the Trojan horse that all but guarantees Blu-Rays victory over HD-DVD.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Paul2 on April 17, 2006, 11:53:55 PM
there are many reasons i am confident that this time around, Blu Ray is going to win.  One of them is storage capacity, and ps3 supports it for cheap, which is of course cheaper than that HD-DVD player listed above since it can play high end videogame, and it\'s also include a hard disk drive.

If consumer go for cheap, PS3 would have been the cheapest blu ray player all around.  Of course, we haven\'t really know what\'s the price tag of ps3 yet though.

the betamax vs. vhs era, betamax can hold about 90 minutes in high quality sp and have a bit better resolution and a bit higher color bandwidth than vhs.  While vhs can hold 2 hours long but have a bit lesser resolution and color bandwidth than betamax.  So, consumer that time doesn\'t really care about picture quality as much as they do today, that they go for the longer recording and playback time tape, and vhs was more prefer.

But now, i guess we are more educated and care more about picture quality than before.  So, now we have Blu Ray that can store more capacity than HD-DVD, meaning longer playback and recording time, and/or better picture quality by using more bitrate per second than HD-DVD.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Titan on April 18, 2006, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: Paul2
there are many reasons i am confident that this time around, Blu Ray is going to win.  One of them is storage capacity, and ps3 supports it for cheap, which is of course cheaper than that HD-DVD player listed above since it can play high end videogame, and it\'s also include a hard disk drive.

If consumer go for cheap, PS3 would have been the cheapest blu ray player all around.  Of course, we haven\'t really know what\'s the price tag of ps3 yet though.

the betamax vs. vhs era, betamax can hold about 90 minutes in high quality sp and have a bit better resolution and a bit higher color bandwidth than vhs.  While vhs can hold 2 hours long but have a bit lesser resolution and color bandwidth than betamax.  So, consumer that time doesn\'t really care about picture quality as much as they do today, that they go for the longer recording and playback time tape, and vhs was more prefer.

But now, i guess we are more educated and care more about picture quality than before.  So, now we have Blu Ray that can store more capacity than HD-DVD, meaning longer playback and recording time, and/or better picture quality by using more bitrate per second than HD-DVD.


And thsi time, not only does Blu-Ray have better picture quality, it has more storage space than HD-DVD.
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Paul2 on April 18, 2006, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: Titan
And thsi time, not only does Blu-Ray have better picture quality, it has more storage space than HD-DVD.
To put it in a simplier way, yes.  Pretty much.  

its not that Blu Ray have better picture quality over HD-DVD, its just that it have more storage space, so it can use more bitrate per second, meaning lesser compression, which yields better picture since lesser compression = better pics...
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: mm on April 18, 2006, 05:02:08 PM
porn went VHS

/discussion
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Paul2 on April 18, 2006, 05:06:21 PM
the betamax and vhs era were before my time, so i don\'t really know much actually.  But I read somewhere porn do have some impacts on the success of VHS format...
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: mm on April 18, 2006, 05:08:36 PM
porn had THE impact

beta was superior in every way

HD-DVD is dead, the average consumer either doesn\'t care, doesn\'t own a HDTV, or is waiting on the PS3/blu-ray
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Phil on April 18, 2006, 05:17:06 PM
So porn supports blu-ray?
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: mm on April 18, 2006, 05:37:05 PM
they\'re undecided

but they also know they can expect 100 million PS3\'s in people\'s homes over the next 5 years
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Paul2 on April 18, 2006, 05:55:47 PM
i remember reading some months back that a porn studio is releasing movies in high def in blu ray formats...
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: THX on April 18, 2006, 06:59:44 PM
1st hd-dvd was deep throat iirc

30 year old pr0n wtfomgbbq
Title: HD-DVD is here (sorta)
Post by: Titan on April 18, 2006, 07:29:24 PM
Ah the porn industry. Really is the big decision maker in the format wars :) I just download it. Much easier than buying ;)