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Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Riku on May 09, 2006, 08:10:39 AM
Last year...
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armchairempire.com%2Fimages%2FNews%2FMay-2005%2Fps3-unveiled%2Ftekken-6-2.jpg&hash=697269d3b481157f0b681c43c35f5a37d148fffc)

and now...
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.360box.co.uk%2Fe3%2Fscreens%2Ftekken5%2F02.jpg&hash=68053e4abe8c8b383b3769290ebb2ebea8ab42e0)

:laugh:

Seriously, what the hell happened?  Did they forget to apply the 4D mapping?
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: clowd on May 09, 2006, 08:17:18 AM
Quote from: Riku

Seriously, what the hell happened?  Did they forget to apply the 4D mapping?


No,  they didn\'t.  (edit) ldsflkfd
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Halberto on May 09, 2006, 08:21:19 AM
Honestly, that looks like PS2 graphics
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 08:26:53 AM
or worse

ugly as hell
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 09, 2006, 08:30:40 AM
More pics here
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/tekken6/screenindex.html



i donno, it doesn\'t look all that bad, but it sure aren\'t what namco said it would be...



but is it ever??
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 09, 2006, 08:32:30 AM
Awefully weak. VF5 ftw
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Riku on May 09, 2006, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: Knotter8
Awefully weak. VF5 ftw


Have you seen VF5 in motion?  The cloth...omg.  :)
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: mm on May 09, 2006, 08:44:17 AM
why is the first pic tagged PS3 and the second pic tagged xbox?
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Riku on May 09, 2006, 08:47:31 AM
Quote from: mm
why is the first pic tagged PS3 and the second pic tagged xbox?


from an xbox website.  apparently they thought it was necessary to post the new pics.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: mm on May 09, 2006, 08:52:14 AM
so the xbox scamps are comparing PS3 dev pics from last year to dev xbox pics from this year?

wtf?
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Riku on May 09, 2006, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: mm
so the xbox scamps are comparing PS3 dev pics from last year to dev xbox pics from this year?

wtf?


no.  

They are comparing what was shown of Tekken 6 from last year to what really is Tekken 6 now.  The Xbox website has it on display I assume to show the glaring difference and spark some conversation.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 09:10:48 AM
Ahm.....Are they trying to say that the PS3 can only do a T6 that looks worse than DOA4?

Because if they do they are stupid really. That probably looks worse than Tekken4.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: mm on May 09, 2006, 09:12:50 AM
May-2005/ps3-unveiled/tekken-6-2.jpg (1st pic)
vs
e3/screens/tekken5/02.jpg (2nd pic)

what are they comparing again?
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Riku on May 09, 2006, 09:14:17 AM
lazy, where are the images?
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: mm on May 09, 2006, 09:24:41 AM
the images you posted originally?
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 09:26:27 AM
So that was Tekken5: Dark Resurection? That would explain everything. If thats true
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: mm on May 09, 2006, 09:53:35 AM
i dont think an explanation is required, lol
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: videoholic on May 09, 2006, 09:55:11 AM
Holy shit.

You mean tekken 6 is going to look better than tekken 5..
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 09, 2006, 09:56:02 AM
That\'s Tekken 6.

The video was shown in the Sony conference last night. Very underwhelming, no one clapped.

It was awkward.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: videoholic on May 09, 2006, 09:59:35 AM
Top one is labeled Tekken 6 PS3

Bottom one is labeled Tekken 5 XBOX 360

I don\'t see what anyone\'s point is here.

The top one looks better.

No shit.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 09, 2006, 10:02:24 AM
Quote from: videoholic
Top one is labeled Tekken 6 PS3

Bottom one is labeled Tekken 5 XBOX 360

I don\'t see what anyone\'s point is here.

The top one looks better.

No shit.


There is no Tekken game coming for the 360. It\'s Tekken 6, that vid was in e3 man.

Read the actual shitty fan site.

http://360box.co.uk/e3/

They just have an idiot doing the labels.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 10:02:34 AM
Now I am confused

Is the ugly pic under the T6 shown last year showing T6 or Tekken5 on 360?

If its T5 on 360 why the hell was it shown at Sony\'s  conference?

edit: Default answered.


Why the hell did they show it? Its so ugly it was just stupid to even consider it
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 09, 2006, 10:03:34 AM
Because it\'s Tekken 6 for the PS3 and it doesn\'t look very good at all.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 09, 2006, 10:12:50 AM
All other devs show pretty good to impressive PS3 visuals.
This is just Namco falling flat on it\'s face. Sorry, they owe
it to themselves.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 09, 2006, 10:18:25 AM
If you see the actual video, it\'s on par with whatever else games they showed during the conference. It\'s just that it looks nothing like their old shots.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 10:21:49 AM
Can you post a link of a video of it? When I was watching the conference live it was under the very low resolution setting since I dont have broadband
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 09, 2006, 10:24:37 AM
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748466/vids_1.html
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 10:26:22 AM
thanks :)
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Eiksirf on May 09, 2006, 10:26:30 AM
They showed it to help contrast how good looking the other games are.
 
Or something.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Ace on May 09, 2006, 10:45:19 AM
Just may a be a case of reality.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Riku on May 09, 2006, 10:46:45 AM
lol, you guys.

There is no Xbox Tekken.  What you\'re seeing is reality having a fucking clash with Sony\'s hyperbole of CG last year.  It\'s okay, I\'m here for you.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 10:51:48 AM
Jesus that was ugly

Quote from: Riku
lol, you guys.

There is no Xbox Tekken.  What you\'re seeing is reality having a fucking clash with Sony\'s hyperbole of CG last year.  It\'s okay, I\'m here for you.


 Ahm excuse me but that was even uglier than DOA Ultimate on XBOX. Its not even representative of the PS3\'s capabilities.

 Its not like they even tried to reach that quality and failed.

 We arent dissapointed with the fact that it doesnt look as good as the CGI video. We are dissapointed that it looks like crap generally. Are you trying to say that the PS3 is capable of only doing that level of graphics?
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Riku on May 09, 2006, 11:11:07 AM
Quote from: Unicron!
Jesus that was ugly



 Ahm excuse me but that was even uglier than DOA Ultimate on XBOX. Its not even representative of the PS3\'s capabilities.

 Its not like they even tried to reach that quality and failed.

 We arent dissapointed with the fact that it doesnt look as good as the CGI video. We are dissapointed that it looks like crap generally. Are you trying to say that the PS3 is capable of only doing that level of graphics?


I don\'t know that the PS3 can achieve what Namco showed last year.  It\'s obvious Namco shot for the moon but barely got off the ground.  

It\'s more a shot at all the crap that was shown this time last year.  Some of it has come around again (Heavenly Sword, MGS4) but much has fallen short (Motorstorm, Warhawk, Tekken, and more).
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 11:27:34 AM
Warhawk was nice looking almost as good if not as good, Heavenly Sword was mighty impressive looking as good as last years E3 trailer, and motorstorm was also nice but cant make any conclusions since I must see direct feed video. MGS4 is unbelievable. And FF13 is not a fighting game yet SE achieved CGI quality in real time.

 Tekken could have been much much much better. its undeniable. The lighting was even worse than a PS2 game. They just didnt put the effort. Even if they didnt show last years CG we would have still had the same reactions.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 09, 2006, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Default
That\'s Tekken 6.

The video was shown in the Sony conference last night. Very underwhelming, no one clapped.

It was awkward.
I wouldn\'t of clapped. Every other game shown looked leaps and bounds better than this crap. Perhaps they shouldn\'t have shown super high quality FMV as their trailer for Tekken 6 last year. Idiots.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: THX on May 09, 2006, 03:13:17 PM
I think it looks great.  The environment is much more detailed than T5: DR and the movements look realistic.  I hope that was real-time -_-
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 09, 2006, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: THX
I think it looks great.  The environment is much more detailed than T5: DR and the movements look realistic.  I hope that was real-time -_-

*slaps THX*
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Jumpman on May 09, 2006, 03:48:03 PM
cliff notes plz
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: FatalXception on May 09, 2006, 09:13:47 PM
Cliff notes = read the thread or get out.

Those are terrible screens, I can\'t believe you like any part of them THX.  The textures are rough, look at the floors for lots of badly drawn lines.  The models are underwhelming WHEN you look at some of the other games pushing the graphical limit right now.  While I tihnk it\'s probably an exageration to say that this is worse than 4 or 5, it\'s certainly not on par with the other \'AAA\' hopefulls being showcased at E3.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: clips on May 09, 2006, 10:21:19 PM
yea for next gen, those screens are garbage...i know namco can do better than this...those pics looks like it could easily be done on the ps2...
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 02:20:16 AM
Quote from: clips
yea for next gen, those screens are garbage...i know namco can do better than this...those pics looks like it could easily be done on the ps2...
The trailer looks a GREAT deal better than the pics.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748466/dl_1493610.html

It\'s still disappoiting, though.

Here\'s some more pics:

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Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 02:30:19 AM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photodump.com%2Fdirect%2FPBMunky%2Ftekken6_005.jpg&hash=ed5089487cc1c3e9516a4b8f94e291d12769681d)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.photodump.com%2Fdirect%2FPBMunky%2Ftekken6_006.jpg&hash=c8ba1633fe278ef69665a479964021278c939a3b)

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Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 10, 2006, 03:07:07 AM
denying subpar skin shaders & realtime lighting is futile. Tekken 6\'s characters looks so incredibly plastic and the lighting extremely artificial. Both technically and artistically, VF5 does such a better job at it. Add to that the fact I like VF gameplay better ; VF5 wins handsdown.  

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.i.com.com%2Fcnet.g2%2Fimages%2F2006%2F127%2F932831_20060508_screen004.jpg&hash=f754b992b1712c6c3ea6d3bbf6b5d4fc9a999c18)

http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/128/932831_20060508_screen010.jpg (http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/128/932831_20060508_screen010.jpg)
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 03:15:18 AM
VF5 looks a million times better. I\'m probably getting a 50+ inch HDTV soon. This game should look quite nice on it. :fro:
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 10, 2006, 03:23:46 AM
Well, not \'a million times better\'.. heheh..

The VF series have always had a solid graphics level with Sega\'s vintage
arcade style graphics. There were times when Tekken overshadowed VF when it comes to visuals.

This round however, even VF5\'s solid (but non extroadinary) visuals even top
Tekken 6\'s.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 03:29:12 AM
I\'m just a huge VF5 fan, that\'s all. ;) And after watching all the videos on gametrailers.com, VF5 is lookin\' pretty sweet. I stopped liking Tekken with everything after Tekken Tag Tournament.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 10, 2006, 03:34:31 AM
Same here. In Tekken I\'d always get combo\'d to pulp by buddies. VF let\'s me counter & throw them.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 03:38:31 AM
My Asian friend always did things off Tekken Zaibatsu. He mastered everything. I did manage to counter him to weird he ended up with his back facing me. He was like "HOW DID YOU DO THAT?!" LOL. He kicked my ass in that game most of the time, though. Crazy Asians. :)

Yeah, I like VF\'s fighting style better than most of the fighting games these days. My other favorite is Guilty Gear.

Guilty Gear on PS3 would be awesome.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 10, 2006, 07:31:48 AM
Indeed VF5 looks much much better. Also if any of you watched any videos will be amazed of the fluid animation and the way the fighting progresses. Its like watching at a martial arts movie. And it looks 10 times better in motion than these pics ;)
 
 Tekken5 did a great job in the series though. The animation is more fluid, but it still needs work (doesnt look as natural as VF5\'s animation) and I think they should do something with the juggling combo\'s. They eat too much.
 They should reduce the damage you do from juggling combos, not completely  get rid of them though. I didnt master many of these for nothing :p. They should also rely much more on the fighting on the ground. Make it more engaging.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: clips on May 11, 2006, 05:05:23 AM
i\'ve always thought tekken had the cooler characters...and at least namco tried to give them some depth by adding storylines to each character,...even tho in some cases they were rather quirky...but namco like konami was another developer that had a firm grip on sony\'s hardware, so it\'s disappointing to see them fall flat a bit in terms of graphics...i never really was a vf fan, but those pics are impressive...as far as the juggling is concerned for tekken, maybe they can tone that down some, but i don\'t see them gettin rid of it completely as it\'s kind of how tekken distinguishes (spel) itself from other fighters...
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Jumpman on May 11, 2006, 06:06:04 AM
Quote from: FatalXception
Cliff notes = read the thread or get out.

You give Canada a bad name. So rude and offensive unlike the rest of us. :(
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Jumpman on May 11, 2006, 06:06:04 AM
double post...

fatal takes it backdoor(not rude or offense...fact)
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 11, 2006, 06:13:01 AM
Quote from: Jumpman
You give Canada a bad name. So rude and offensive unlike the rest of us. :(

look who\'s talking
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 11, 2006, 06:16:02 AM
Quote from: Knotter8
look who\'s talking

You took it out of my mouth
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Jumpman on May 11, 2006, 08:24:04 AM
This feels like grade 5 all over again...look who\'s talking...lol.

And it was another joke that went over your head, Knotter. I\'m equally rude and offensive, that should of been obvious. :(
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 11, 2006, 08:46:13 AM
Well, i\'d rather have some stupid jokes go unnoticed by me than to be a person who is rude and offensive himself while fully being aware of it.

That\'s admitting to do wrong without making any plans to improve ; the epitome of a vicious cycle of doom. The filth of mankind.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Jumpman on May 11, 2006, 09:38:41 AM
Quote from: Knotter8
Well, i\'d rather have some stupid jokes go unnoticed by me than to be a person who is rude and offensive himself while fully being aware of it.

And I definitely wouldn\'t!

And I\'d say the epitome of a vicious cycle of doom would be to get lit on fire, die, and lit on fire again etc. Now that\'s a shitty cycle.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Phil on May 11, 2006, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: Knotter8
Well, i\'d rather have some stupid jokes go unnoticed by me than to be a person who is rude and offensive himself while fully being aware of it.

That\'s admitting to do wrong without making any plans to improve ; the epitome of a vicious cycle of doom. The filth of mankind.



Wow knotter, buddy, calm down.  This is a video game discussion board, what jumpy does will not affect the real world (thank god).  Just um, ignore him, and breathe.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 11, 2006, 10:45:49 AM
Well, sorry (and i\'m saying this as calm as my other posts) but if anybody\'s gonna talk rude to me (not particularly in THIS thread..), i\'m going to say something about it.

Furthermore, I think the general consensus is pretty clear about Tekken 6 ;

Namco\'s behind the next gen \'facts\' and needs to play catch up. What do they have going now what is considered hot ? RR7 ? It looks just decent imo...
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: THX on May 11, 2006, 04:34:06 PM
Gotta have my teakken.

I\'ll get this even if they turn the characters into big 2d squares
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 11, 2006, 05:14:40 PM
VF5 looks amazing.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 11, 2006, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: Jumpman
This feels like grade 5 all over again...look who\'s talking...lol.

And it was another joke that went over your head, Knotter. I\'m equally rude and offensive, that should of been obvious. :(
:jump:
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Knotter8 on May 11, 2006, 11:26:07 PM
Looks like he\'s stuck in grade 5.

I\'m 28. On 2nd thought, the \'joke\' went under my feet instead of over my head.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 12, 2006, 01:48:52 AM
:laughing:
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Jumpman on May 12, 2006, 02:54:20 AM
Evi=bottomfeader.

Knotter=moron. If you can\'t comprehend my writing then don\'t reply. PM me with any questions regarding this post before you spew more random ass bs all over the forum. And I dare you to make another insult about my maturity, after you just refused to stop posting after I did.

Unicron=moronic bottomfeader.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 12, 2006, 04:55:25 AM
3 people insulted jumpy,  good work



I\'ll still get this, hopefully all the backlash will make namco rethink the T6 graphics.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 12, 2006, 11:36:43 AM
I heard that this game is very early in development and that Namco turned off a lot of effects for the demo because they didn\'t want people to see it in its current state. Then again, that could all be BS...or wishful thinking.

But the destructable environments might be cool.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Jumpman on May 12, 2006, 01:09:08 PM
And Evi deleted my post. Mistake.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 12, 2006, 02:12:18 PM
Actually Eiksirf did, but thanks for assuming.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 12, 2006, 03:18:09 PM
Here\'s an extended trailer guys: http://www.360box.co.uk/e3/movies/tekken.wmv

The enviroments look pretty freaking awesome. However, they should\'ve spent more time on the character models. Maybe they will? I dunno. I won\'t pass judgement until the game is complete.
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Unicron! on May 12, 2006, 03:57:35 PM
Is it direct feed?
Title: Tekken 6 - WTF?
Post by: Evi on May 12, 2006, 03:59:39 PM
No, it\'s from a camera.