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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ddaryl on May 10, 2006, 02:22:57 AM
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So now that we all know the price of this beast, who\'s getting one.
I honestlhy haven\'t seen anyting from Sony that makes the PS3 worth $600, so unless I can offset the price by selling a few PS3\'s myself I don\'t think I\'m getting one for myself at launch.
I might change my mind, and I\'ll pre-order just the same. (I can always say no later)
I\'m not interested in the $500 version does not include an HDMI port, only a 20 GB HD, and no 1080p support. SO Sony is pulling a 2 SKU deal as well. I\'d rather use HDMI.
I\'m definitely interested in hearing from diehard PS fans, and their views on this pricing fiasco.
Did Sony shoot themselves in the foot. Is this the foul up MS and Nintendo were waiting for ?
Do we take a stand against the new pricing, because if Sony has success here the prices will never come down in the future.
enquiring minds wants to know
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I\'ll buy it.
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I\'m getting one.
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The PS3 must have games for me won\'t make it at launch anyway.
Until then my trusty PS2, Xbox and Radeon X1900XTX pc will have to do.
but when those games release, I\'ll get me a PS3 for sure, yeah the expensive version.
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I\'m thinking about it. I might start putting money down now.... I dunno.
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I\'m getting one but I tend to buy no matter of price. I think Sony is gonna have a difficult time convincing ma and dad to buy one during the holiday season. Lots of regular pressures to pay large energy bills etc and a 500 and 600 price tag might be hard to swallow.
As far as seeing games that make me wanna buy? Well I guess just Metal Gear alone makes it happen for me but I will say it looks like the PS3 has very little over the 360.
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After the price drops a few times I might pick one up.
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but I will say it looks like the PS3 has very little over the 360.
Wait until those games which demand hefty processing power for AI, physics and transition animations, then PS3 architecture will show it\'s benefits over XB360.
PS3\'ll have a bit of a rough start, no doubt about that indeed.
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Not I. I refuse to pay that much for a console. Sony will need some KILLER launch titles to even come close to making me think twice and I doubt that happens.
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Yeah, considering how little I play the X360... Maybe I\'ll just preorder a Wii and see if I can get Sony to send me a PS3.
Fat chance... I scored an EyeToy back in the day, though. (To review for the paper...)
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Probably I ll get one. If I see launch games of similar quality they showed at Sony\'s conference I might get one
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Got a couple deposits down around town, getting one at launch, 3-4 if the demand is really high. Why didja start a new thread for this, there already was a PS3 price thread...
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Who\'s taking orders. I usually go to EB around here and they say not yet.
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There probably won\'t be a single game worth plunkin down $700 for a system.
I won\'t get the $500 version, I want; HDMI, and 60GB so its the $600 version plus extra controller, plus 2 games, + tax... = Over $750
I\'m kinda disspointed here. I think gamers need to send a strong message to Sony.
this is a golden chance to make sure the industry learns a lesson, but if people buy it then they\'ll keep trying to bump the prices and increase there profit margins over the next couple of generations to the point where upgrading your PC is the better gaming option.
Also I hear EB games is not taking pre-orders, so software etc. will probably follow suit which means people will need to camp out 2 -3 days in advance.... Is it worth it ???
Approx 700,000 units for launch here in the US. It will be a nightmare trying to get one.
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Who\'s taking orders. I usually go to EB around here and they say not yet.
Latest news is EB games will not take pre-orders do to the Xbox 360 pre-order fiasco.
That means software etc. won\'t be either...
Might just be bad rumor, but this buzz has been around awhile now.
Camping out a week in advance might be the only way many people get a PS3.... If they really believe a 1st gen, probably buggy console, is worth a $700 investment.
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I hadn\'t done the math all the way up over $700 yet. Sony can keep its system.
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I\'m getting one, but I can understand those who won\'t. The point is I have a HDTV and I\'m looking forward to taking advantage of it
The price is high but worth it if you want the technology, just as Ken Kutargi said. But making 2 versions of it was a mistake. I blame MS for starting this 2 console BS.
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Yeah, if I want a Wii, I just go buy one. Imagine that.
I have a huge HDTV, too, but I\'m not made of money. I\'m a little busy supporting Exxon CEOs right now anyway.
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well I\'m a hypocrite, but if a bunch of Sony fans jumped on a boycott wagon I\'d be apart of it.
I\'ll probably pre-order a couple if I can, offset my costs by selling one or 2 systems on ebay to spoiled rich snots because it must be done.
I talked to my EB games today and they said pre-orders are still on with them.
Software etc... told me they won\'t take pre-orders for a month or 3. They want firm numbers from Sony.
There\'s no turning back after the PS3. Playstation Systems just doubled in price in one generation. MS will probably follow suit, or they may find themselves in a niche of their own. I forsee MS gaining some market share because of this.
That might come back to haunt Sony
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I blame MS for starting this 2 console BS.
Right, because we all know it worked so well with them that Sony just had to follow suit, right? I mean, they had no other choice...:rolleyes:
The worst part of all this is, people are rushing to pre-order one and no one even knows what the launch games are goin\' to be. All these "amazing" titles we are see\'ing are most likely goin\' to be late first generation games. Still, I can\'t make fun of you, I did just pre-order the Wii thru Lik-Sang.com and I got no clue what it\'ll launch with (hopin\' for Mario / ZELDA (cube) / PilotWings!).
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Either way, I\'m probably still gonna get one at launch kinda as bragging rights. Hopefully there will be some kickass games. A shame MGS4 isn\'t being released at launch or else I\'d definitely get one. If tehre is a weak selection and I get more than one PS3, I\'ll just sell them all and wait.
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I wish I had 600 dollars to blow on bragging rights. Must be nice.
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I wish I had 600 dollars to blow on bragging rights. Must be nice.
Yeah....it must be nice :( That\'s why I\'m getting a job :)
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I\'ve been working since I was 13. Unfortunately college isn\'t cheap and most of my money goes to my laptop, software for my laptop, and books. The rest of it goes to tuition and rent. :(
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i think i\'ve already mentioned i\'m dissapointed at the price..i think sony is a big enough company that they could at least absorb 399...but 499 & 599? that\'s ridiculous. are they in bed with the oil company\'s or what?...clowd,... that was kinda ignorant of you blamin\' microsoft for startin this two console thing...as i\'ve stated before sony had the perfect opportunity to smash the competition, but squandered it,..especially since they are the last one to release their system!...they saw the other companies play their hand and yet they followed suit of both companies.. nintendo (motion controller) microsoft (two consoles)..:rolleyes:..pathetic
what would have been brillant would have been for them to release the fully loaded version at 399 and crush the competition...they are going to take a hit on the hardware anyway, but they still make up for it with the sales of the current ps2\'s and games from that sector. they absolutely blew an opportunity to shine...i will still cop one tho,...probably not at launch...but most likely the 2nd or third batch of ps3\'s...
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They are already losing $200 from the $600 models. Going for $399 would be suicidal.
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Blu-ray is their ace in the hole. If they don\'t do well with that, Sony is pretty much screwed.
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Screw \'em then. They never belonged in the console business in the first place. ;]
Maybe if they were focused they could have followed up their Walkman with an iPod and they wouldn\'t be banking on some Trojan horse game console rip off.
Or am I being cynical? ;]
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i think i\'ve already mentioned i\'m dissapointed at the price..i think sony is a big enough company that they could at least absorb 399...but 499 & 599? that\'s ridiculous. are they in bed with the oil company\'s or what?...clowd,... that was kinda ignorant of you blamin\' microsoft for startin this two console thing...as i\'ve stated before sony had the perfect opportunity to smash the competition, but squandered it,..especially since they are the last one to release their system!...they saw the other companies play their hand and yet they followed suit of both companies.. nintendo (motion controller) microsoft (two consoles)..:rolleyes:..pathetic
what would have been brillant would have been for them to release the fully loaded version at 399 and crush the competition...they are going to take a hit on the hardware anyway, but they still make up for it with the sales of the current ps2\'s and games from that sector. they absolutely blew an opportunity to shine...i will still cop one tho,...probably not at launch...but most likely the 2nd or third batch of ps3\'s...
I dont think Sony would have put that price if they could sell it at $399 without problems. Sony would have sold it cheaper if they could. But if they do sell it cheaper they wont be able to recover even if they sell every single one of them. Its clear that the cost of manufacturing is HUGE. They decided to put extra value on it to become more competitive in other areas that differentiate their product from MS. But the price increased.
Indeed it has many extras on it the 360 doesnt have as standard but it sure increased the price.
Sony put a huge risk. They decided to differentiate the PS3 than try sell it less, hoping people will still buy it. They ddnt want to sell it cheaper (but still a bit more expensive than the 360) without enough differences. They believe that in order not to lose lots of market share they should offer things that will make the 360 less valuable in comparisson in the maind of the consumer than sell it with less features and at a cheaper price.
It partially worked. PS3 indeed for many seems a whole better product than 360 but the price still hurts despite that they want to get one. Many want to have one but are reconsidering it. Some early adopters will wait instead. The problem is, if most potentially early adopters decide to wait for a price drop instead of buying it at launch, the price drop wont be there since there wont be enough early adopters from teh beginning.
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Toys \'R Us is takin\' pre-orders, as was revealed a few weeks ago.. .prolly the line\'s getting big by now.
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Gamecrazy was taking pre-orders along time ago as well.
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I\'m gonna wait until EB or GameStop starts preorders.
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Things are not looking good right now. That price is well to high. I thought the $400 dollar price for 360 was bad. And why would they shoot themselves in the foot and offer the $500 dollar system. That is stupid who will buy that? I ragged on the 360 for the core system. It was dumb then and it is dumb now. There should only be one system. Not two different versions. That is stupid.
This is bad. And GTA will be on 360 and ps3. I dunno it is going to take a lot to justify spending 600 on console. I gotta see a lot of games. Just like other have said. We don\'t don\'t want rehashes of old games with better graphics.
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Unfortunately, the games aren\'t exactly free, either.
$$$
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I\'m sure I\'ll end up spending around $900 on PS3, games and accesories on Novemeber 17.
What can I say? REAL next gen gaming is expensive. If you don\'t want it, off the bus. If you want it you\'ll start saving money now.
This is what sperates the hardcore from the wannabes
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I\'m sure I\'ll end up spending around $900 on PS3, games and accesories on Novemeber 17.
What can I say? REAL next gen gaming is expensive. If you don\'t want it, off the bus. If you want it you\'ll start saving money now.
This is what sperates the sheep from the smart.
Fixed.
Havin\' done my share of 1,000 dollar launches more than a few times, I refuse to do it again. It\'s never worth it, espically when $600 of that 1,000 is for the friggin\' console itself.
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This will be my first $1000 launch.
And I think it will be worth it. Bragging rights alone are nearly enough to make up for half of the $1000
If it isn\'t worth it, I\'ll let you know. Mark the date, May 11, 2006. I\'ll let you know within 2 weeks after launch if it was worth it. And if it is, I\'ll shove it all in your face
-Clowd
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that\'s an attitude that worries me... people gladly embracing the price and over all cost.
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that\'s an attitude that worries me... people gladly embracing the price and over all cost.
Yep, sheep that rush out and buy this stuff only encourage companies to do it more often. Embrace these outrageous price tags, embrace this stupid notion of two different "core" systems and what happens? The companies will continue this stupid shit.
And I think it will be worth it. Bragging rights alone are nearly enough to make up for half of the $1000
This right here, proves you are an idiot. Braggin\' rights on a console? Get over yourself.
If it isn\'t worth it, I\'ll let you know. Mark the date, May 11, 2006. I\'ll let you know within 2 weeks after launch if it was worth it. And if it is, I\'ll shove it all in your face
Get over yourself. It\'s your first $1,000 launch. You\'ve already decided it\'s worth it and if it isn\'t, you\'ll be so far in denial it\'s not funny.
I spent a $1,000 dollars on the PS2 launch and it was the biggest waste of $1,000 dollars. Spent $800 or so on the Dreamcast and was worth every penny. Then again, for that matter, I spent around $350 on the N64 launch and it rocked my world with it\'s TWO launch games.
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Mario 64 and Pilotwings? Pilotwings rocked your world? You couldn\'t even blow up the buildings. :( That ruined the experience for me.
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Don\'t confuse taste with whats worth what
You decided the PS3 wouldn\'t be worth anything long ago, so don\'t give me anything about outraegous price tags. I wont be in any type of denial. I see no way I can be dissapointed.
Bragging rights will be a huge deal with all my friends and with workmates. They will all want to come over all the time, like with the PS2. I\'m afraid some may become jealous when they see a PS3 game running at 720p blown up to 100". So yeah, bragging rights is HUGE. No other console in history will have as much bragging rights as this one. The price and technology elevates it to almost supernatural territory in the world of bragging
So what if you had a blast with $350 and a N64. I had a blast with a $370 PS2 and Madden + SSX RENTAL. You are indirectly promoting Nintendo Wii, a nd its not working.
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Damn, you should look into getting tech vids for your PS3. Doesn\'t even sound like you\'re buying it to play the games.
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Don\'t confuse taste with whats worth what
You decided the PS3 wouldn\'t be worth anything long ago, so don\'t give me anything about outraegous price tags. I wont be in any type of denial. I see no way I can be dissapointed.
Bragging rights will be a huge deal with all my friends and with workmates. They will all want to come over all the time, like with the PS2. I\'m afraid some may become jealous when they see a PS3 game running at 720p blown up to 100". So yeah, bragging rights is HUGE. No other console in history will have as much bragging rights as this one. The price and technology elevates it to almost supernatural territory in the world of bragging
So what if you had a blast with $350 and a N64. I had a blast with a $370 PS2 and Madden + SSX RENTAL. You are indirectly promoting Nintendo Wii, a nd its not working.
I never even mentioned the Wii - get a grip.
Bragging rights? How about this, buy a system for games and not for bragging rights. Get back to us then.
And the fact that you say you "see no way to be dissapointed" - that just proves you\'re blind to it all, no matter what.
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I have 2 preordered.
Investments. Regardless of how much I think the system is not worth the price I know I can get double in the first few weeks after launch.
Right now. I don\'t even want one. The only reason I\'m waiting for the PS3 launch(outside of flipping a few systems) is for the price drop on the 360.
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I have 2 preordered.
Investments. Regardless of how much I think the system is not worth the price I know I can get double in the first few weeks after launch.
Right now. I don\'t even want one. The only reason I\'m waiting for the PS3 launch(outside of flipping a few systems) is for the price drop on the 360.
Where\'d you pre-order at?
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Local Gamestop.
They have always taken prorders early. Even when something wasn\'t in the computer you could make an "unofficial" preorder and get a reciept and everything.
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I\'ll get one, probably not straight away though (might wait for a price drop).
599 is cheap compared to what we most likely have to shell out, 4990 or 5990 ($681 or $819 for the high end model. I payed around 630USD for my PS2). :(
If I were to import from the states I\'d save ~$220. :)
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And since the PS3 is region-free for games...
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Man this is a steep price for a console. And for those of you wanting it for blueray technology how do you know it\'s not gonna suck like many of the early PS2s did as DVD players? I got a PS2 the first month it was out because I wanted a DVD player as much as a console and ended up buying another DVD player within 7 months because the console had so many problems reading discs.
Those of you who justify buying it because it\'s "blueray" better hope that Sony doesn\'t ship a buggy product like the PS2.
That and the price means I won\'t be buying one anytime soon, I can afford it but $500-$700 for a console is just ridiculous.
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Count It Sucka!
Why can\'t I type in all caps anymore GOD THAT SUCKS.
Apparently its whole phrases...
SO IF I NEVER PUT A PERIOD IT WONT AUTO CHANGE IT HA I BEAT THE SYSTEM
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he has a point. My ps2 has a tough time reading some DVD\'s. I have to use the one in the living room or the one on my computer. Theres always going to be bugs with the first batch..and every time people are surprised.
right now they only have a hundred (pulling the number out of my ass) testing it for bugs doing everything possible to find a problem. In november theyll have millions of customers finishing the job.
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Never had a problem with mine.
And PS3 isn\'t the first console to be this "expensive". I don\'t really think it\'s a big deal, but whatever.
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Can I hear your explanation as to why the 360 being 400$ is a complete joke but the PS3 being 600$ is fine?
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Ha, yes those other expensive consoles sold really well didn\'t they evi. Doesn\'t matter this time though, Sony has too big of a consumer base not to sell well.
Whatever console drops between the 200-250 range will get my purchase. Anything more is just rediculous (for me at least).
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Ha, yes those other expensive consoles sold really well didn\'t they evi. Doesn\'t matter this time though, Sony has too big of a consumer base not to sell well.
Whatever console drops between the 200-250 range will get my purchase. Anything more is just rediculous (for me at least).
lay-away eases the pain..;) i might go that route since frontin 600 for a console up front is kinda painful,..lay-away helps you ease into it....sorta like sex..:fro:...
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Hah, then this will be the first time USA is gonna pay \'PAL\' price for a console.
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lay-away eases the pain..;) i might go that route since frontin 600 for a console up front is kinda painful,..lay-away helps you ease into it....sorta like sex..:fro:...
Exactly, only in this case... you\'re getting raped.
-Dan
/I\'ll be here all week
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The first 5 million or so will sell regardless. Sony has enough fans willing to shell out the money to own the new Playstation. The thing is that Sony\'s sales have always taken off AFTER the console drops to the seemingly mass market price of $200. How long is it going to take Sony to reach that price? Microsoft will reach it long before Sony does, and they\'ll have a large enough library of games (including platinum priced games) to really reach out to a broad consumer base.
clowd, I applaud Microsoft for NOT shoving unnecessary technology into my home when all I want to do is play games. I don\'t like having to pay for things I won\'t use. Microsoft is really reaching out to a broad audience with their two tier pricing, and I believe them when they say it\'s crucial to expand their world wide market share. We\'ll see though, won\'t we.
To answer the original question, yes. I\'ll be getting several to sell them and pay off some bills.
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100$ is not two tiered pricing
it\'s a marketing ploy
400$ and 200$ is two tiered.
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100$ is not two tiered pricing
it\'s a marketing ploy
400$ and 200$ is two tiered.
two tiered approach. whatever. doesn\'t matter.
Fact is that Microsoft made it so you can go home with just a games machine at its most basic, or you can go all out and enjoy the benefits of the extras (mass storage, Xbox Live, Media Center (if you buy the wi-fi)). I think it\'s a safe bet there will be a HD-DVD bundle as well come this holiday. In any case, the consumer has options, and the 360 can appeal to many more people given the different introductory prices.
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Man this is a steep price for a console. And for those of you wanting it for blueray technology how do you know it\'s not gonna suck like many of the early PS2s did as DVD players? I got a PS2 the first month it was out because I wanted a DVD player as much as a console and ended up buying another DVD player within 7 months because the console had so many problems reading discs.
Those of you who justify buying it because it\'s "blueray" better hope that Sony doesn\'t ship a buggy product like the PS2.
That and the price means I won\'t be buying one anytime soon, I can afford it but $500-$700 for a console is just ridiculous.
Who\'s this guy? Joined in 2002 and has 2 posts?
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Well my PS3 purchase is secured now, I have $700 saved up. BUT I\'ll make up my mind when I know what games will be out day 1. :)
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Well my PS3 purchase is secured now, I have $700 saved up. BUT I\'ll make up my mind when I know what games will be out day 1. :)
600 console + 60 game + tax = over your saved up 700
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600 console + 60 game + tax = over your saved up 700
It depends on what version I get, the 20GB version is about $680, the 60GB costs $820. I want a HDMI port but I\'m not sure if thats worth the extra dollars it would cost, I dont have a HDTV yet anyway. The 25% tax is already included in the price.
Will the games in the US cost 60? Has that been confirmed? What do the PS2 games cost over there? We\'ll probably have to pay around $80 for the games over here. :/ PS2 games already cost $60-$70 here.
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It depends on what version I get, the 20GB version is about $680, the 60GB costs $820. I want a HDMI port but I\'m not sure if thats worth the extra dollars it would cost, I dont have a HDTV yet anyway. The 25% tax is already included in the price.
Will the games in the US cost 60? Has that been confirmed? What do the PS2 games cost over there? We\'ll probably have to pay around $80 for the games over here. :/ PS2 games already cost $60-$70 here.
I\'m assuming the games will cost the same as 360 games- $60, with a few coming in at $50.
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I\'m assuming the games will cost the same as 360 games- $60, with a few coming in at $50.
*crying*
No more impulse buy for me then.
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600 console + 60 game + tax = over your saved up 700
I think Ken said 500 for the 20GB version and 600 for the 60GB version including tax
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I think Ken said 500 for the 20GB version and 600 for the 60GB version including tax
It is 499 and 599, respectively...not including tax.
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oh ok
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Ha, yes those other expensive consoles sold really well didn\'t they evi.
They sold like crap, but that wasn\'t my point. :p
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All of these consoles unlike PS3 though, had other problems as well.
Their manifacturers didnt market them well, they didnt have previous market share and fame to back them up, their consoles didnt have anything that excused the pricing relative to their competitors, and they didnt try enough to build developer support.
Sony has the PS\'s success to boost PS3 sales, and it has a huge support as far as what I have seen so far. Not to mention key franchises. MGS, GT, DMC, FF, God of War, Heavenly Sword, Tekken and the likes.
Also it has other functions and extras the competidors dont have and they are willing to exploit and support their functionality than just have them there for "prestige".
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It is 499 and 599, respectively...not including tax.
For Europe a 17% tax is included in the price.
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17% tax? Wow, that sucks :p You guys are getting raped on launch day.
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Sony has the PS\'s success to boost PS3 sales, and it has a huge support as far as what I have seen so far. Not to mention key franchises. MGS, GT, DMC, FF, God of War, Heavenly Sword, Tekken and the likes..
Just like Nintendo had key franchises and SNES success to boost its N64 sales?
Or is Sony actually making bone-headed marketing decisions and alienating its key demographic, the casual gamer. S\'pose we\'ll see. ;]
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Just like Nintendo had key franchises and SNES success to boost its N64 sales?
Or is Sony actually making bone-headed marketing decisions and alienating its key demographic, the casual gamer. S\'pose we\'ll see. ;]
hmm nice point.
But unlike N64, Sony has a market share of more than 70%, and the many third party key franchises that were on the PS2 continue on the PS3 unlike Nintendo. Nintendo was left mostly with its first party games that targeted certain consumers mainly the Nintendo fans. Developers like Square and Namco abandoned lots of their support for the N64.
In terms of games PS3 hasnt lost its appealing to the casual and hardcoe gamer...yet.
The reason why Nintendo lost consumers wasnt the price of the console. There were other more important reasons.
The price of the console is the real problem and you can only compare this with other expensive consoles that failed.
PS3 and N64 are two 2 completely different cases.
Despite that I am sure Sony is going to lose lots of market share because of the price unless they decide a price drop soon
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I think the mainstream gaming audience is pretty fickle. Look what happened to Sega. And look at what happened to Nintendo.
Brand loyalty isn\'t something the common gamer is engrained with, historically.
For various reasons, the masses will switch companies. And at the pricepoint Sony is choosing, I could see Microsoft and Nintendo really looking good after a year or two.
For instance, check out the steeply priced PSP that is being outpaced by the less advanced but innovative and fairly priced DS.
Heh, when you make the Xbox 360 price tag seem rational, something is up.
-Dan
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higher price than the DS has little to do with PSP sales
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I\'d say the cost has a lot to do with little PSP sales.
Though I imagine your guess is as good as mine. (Or else, mine is better.) ;]
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PSP isn\'t marketed towards kids like the DS is
handhelds are traditionally kid\'s toys
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DS is being marketed for all age groups, especially in recent months. In a truer sense than has ever been attempted by video game companies. How well it is being marketed is debatable.
PSP is being marketed to the typical young male demographic.
Handhelds are traditionally kids\' toys, though.
The weird thing is young boys want to be cool like older boys, so that PSP demographic overlaps. Although when a parent is doing the purchasing, I would argue that segments the market and a parent would probably choose the DS, for price and for E-rated software.
-Dan
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parents buy what thier kid wants
the DS looking less "fragile" and more toylike doesn\'t help much
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The amazing thing about that logic is, go to any internet forum and a lot of times it is is 20 - 30 year olds talking about lack of PSP games and the flood of good old school DS games.
parents buy what thier kid wants
Got any kids? No?
Yes, to certain extent parents buy what kids want , but with it being the most expensive console, parents will also buy the cheapest alternative, which may be the 360.
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was i once a kid? yes
do i pay attention to parents in stores? yes
lol at "internet forums"
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lol at u
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lol at glass houses
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Parents might buy what their kids want. But if all this talk about ordering a "GameStation 2" or "PlayCube" can be believed, I\'d be willing to bet that parents are going in and saying "Little mm wants one of those handheld games."
And then its "Well we have PSP for $! bla bla Grand Theft Auto and DS for $reasonable bla bla Mario..."
"OK, I\'ll take that one."
-Dan
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was i once a kid? yes
do i pay attention to parents in stores? yes
lol at "internet forums"
People posts on internet forums. Don\'t deny that a large amount of the market can be judged off popular forums. And the whole point was why the DS is outselling the PSP ... Price and games. The PSP is to expensive for a handheld and it doesn\'t offer the games that need to be on a portable system. Nintendo knows that 2D still suits portable gaming and they have wisely stayed on that track.
You don\'t pay enough attention to parents in the stores - middleclass parents can\'t afford bills, support a kid and buy $600 dollar game systems, for their kids.
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parents buy what thier kid wants
the DS looking less "fragile" and more toylike doesn\'t help much
Not always. When the parent sees a $500 fragile console on the shelves and the kid screams "I WANT IT I WANT IT NOW! I WANT IT!! BUY IT TO ME! OUAAAAAAA" the parent will respond like "SHUT UP! *slaps kid in the mouth*! I knew I should have used a condom" :p
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Although when a parent is doing the purchasing, I would argue that segments the market and a parent would probably choose the DS, for price and for E-rated software.
-Dan
I am not sure if it because of what the kids want or maybe it\'s the parents decision, but my sister bought Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance SP, and even DualScreen to her kids and they seem to enjoy it. Can\'t really remember if she bought dual screen but i think she did. maybe they see their friends have it or something and asked their mom to buy it.
But I don\'t see they have PSP and I didn\'t say anything, because I wasn\'t interested in handheld, and I like revisiting oldschool 2-D sidescrolling games and I can understand why she pick Gameboy. Maybe she never heard of PSP, but its cool since its expensive, and I don\'t think psp have games that will interest the kids...
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hmmm..i gotta echo what i think LIC stated in another thread...i too believe that ps3 will sell out on launch day, but what happens after that? say some 6 - 9 months down the road..and the price is still 499, 599?...i think that will be a huge problem for sony,..even if they do stage a price drop, i think it will only be what? 20 - 30 dollars tops? $470, $570...that is still pretty steep after the "newness" wears off...
as far as what i handheld i would buy my kids?...well a couple of years ago my son wanted an xbox, but price and the content of games on that system made the difference and gamecube bein 99 bucks at the time,..you just couldn\'t beat that,...and you also couldn\'t go wrong with games on that system being mostly geared to tha younger set...so the decision was a no brainer for me...if i were to buy a hh(if i were into to them) it would be psp for me and the ds for him...
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as far as what i handheld i would buy my kids?...well a couple of years ago my son wanted an xbox, but price and the content of games on that system made the difference and gamecube bein 99 bucks at the time,..you just couldn\'t beat that,...and you also couldn\'t go wrong with games on that system being mostly geared to tha younger set...so the decision was a no brainer for me...if i were to buy a hh(if i were into to them) it would be psp for me and the ds for him...
And who would you buy for first?
Most likely your son.
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And who would you buy for first?
Most likely your son.
yep,..pretty much, and i think the average parent would buy his/her child the more cheaper, child friendly ds...you will still have thee occasional spoiled brat that get whatever he wants, but on average i think most parents will go with the ds...
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For a child...
"less likely to break", "Easy to play", and "Inexpensive."
PSP feels more like a business trip PS3 than a pacifier.
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I want one but the $600 price tag is screwing me out of one. And then you talk about games, controllers, blah....blahh looks like a $1000 launch. I got bills and other shit to worrie about so spending $1000 on a system is just stupid. If only sony would have came with the $399 pricing of the 360 then I could justify it.
The 360 is starting to look better and better. Even though I still want a ps3 over a 360. In the long run around the holiday season I see myself going with the more reasonable 360. And if Microsoft throws a price drop on that 360 they would sell like hot cakes. Maybe Sony has not look at the economy lately. People are out of work and trying to get by. Things are not as strong as say when ps3 launched.
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Here\'s my console purchase list for the rest of the year.
Nintendo DS lite.
Rebuy PSTWO (gave mine to my father when I moved out) - get Guitar Hero
Nintendo Wii
MS 360.
I can\'t find almost a grand to put down on the PS3 with that list.
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17% tax? Wow, that sucks :p You guys are getting raped on launch day.
Yes we are. But we\'re used to it, so we have no feeling in that part of the body. ;P
Btw I pay 25% tax, but I also get a 2 year warranty, so that helps a little. :fighting:
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Rebuy PSTWO (gave mine to my father when I moved out) - get Guitar Hero
*high fives LIC* I love Guitar Hero. I\'m so damn addicted to it and can\'t wait for the second one in November.
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I In the long run around the holiday season I see myself going with the more reasonable 360.
That Sony made the Xbox 360 pricetag seem reasonable is unreal. Easiest bit of marketing Microsoft ever had to do.
And Nintendo is fixing to undercut both of them. The only question is, by how much.
-Dan
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well by Xmas 2006 it won\'t matter what console is "reasonable" because the PS3 won\'t be found anywhere and sold out.
It won\'t be till summer of 2007 will be be able to see where the PS3 price point is going to do to Sony or for Sony.
No doubt about it MS has gained market share, and Sony has done the marketing.
Nintendo will be Nintendo, and will probably stay on par with Gamecube sales numbers. Most people are just bored with Nintnedo accept some old school diehards.
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I agree, the pricepoint will matter August of \'07 or holiday \'07. Beyond the launch, it\'s tough to speculate on the success of PS3.
I\'m looking for Nintendo to pick up some steam with this generation. How much, I don\'t know, but I\'m one gamer who is typically bored with what Sony and Microsoft are doing.
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Like Eik said, it is hard to say how the PS3 will do beyond launch. We all know that it is a gurantee\'d success on launch day, but once the holiday craze calms down, MS does a price drop and Nintendo launches at around $250, how will the $600 dollar system fare? I\'m guessing it\'ll lose steam fast and force Sony to do a price drop come holiday season of \'07.
Nintendo has a chance to pick up a lot of the market this come around, provided they do the right marketing. Something they can\'t do is become forgotten in the midst of the Sony hype - that\'s one of the big things that killed the Dreamcast. Some aggressive marketing, solid launch titles (No Mario on launch is already a big dissapointment) and cheap price tag could really help Nintendo. Not to mention people are buying the DS and lovin\' it.
MS, on the other hand, I would imagine will throw in a price drop sometime next year (this holiday season would be too nice) and undercut Sony some more. The worst part is, Sony\'s new price tag makes the 360 look like a deal (let\'s not argue about the lack of Blu-Ray, average consumer does not loko at that). Throw in a price cut sometime next year, Halo 3 and a few other titles and I think MS has a decent chance of fixing what they broke with the Xbox 360 botched launch.
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Having Zelda and Metroid at launch (current plan) will be nice for Wii, in addition to things like Wii Sports, Red Steel and whatever else. Maybe Wario Ware and Monkey Ball, two franchises just begging to be used with the Wii controller.
Mario should hit early \'07 to continue sales and then bolster summer with Super Smash Bros. Throw Animal Crossing and say, Pikmin next holiday season and sprinkle the new ips (Hammer, Excite Truck, that other game I keep forgetting) throughout the year. If Nintendo can keep Wii interesting while the other guys are still overpriced, they\'ll be doing themselves a huge favor.
And for God sakes, someone announce a Punch-Out!! sequel!
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so you can "punch" the air in front of you?
come on bro, that\'s just rediculous talking
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I\'d buy a wii for a new punch-out game
seriously
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Punch-Out is a stationary game and the remote can therefor take the formula of the original, register right and left jabs and body blows and uppercuts, as well as any other type of punch - even a backhand.
By bringing up both arms to block and moving them to make Lil Mac dodge, you\'d be real time boxing against Bald Bull, etc.
There was a cool arcade game in the same vein, but this could go all the way and include the cool characters and time-based reactions.
Knocking out Tyson was so satisfying, but actually making him fall to real life punches... that\'d be a real adrenaline rush.
If, ya know, you like to have fun when you play games. If not, I\'m sure there\'s hi-def CGI you could watch somewhere else. ;]
-Dan
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if hi-def CGI = katamari 2, then sign me up
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Well my PS3 purchase is secured now, I have $700 saved up. BUT I\'ll make up my mind when I know what games will be out day 1. :)
Sorry to bust you bubble, you need to save some more.
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=57414
Sony better start praying as you can now buy a Xbox 360, Wii and a couple of games for that price. I think it is now getting out of hand... oh, and just to make you all feel a tad bit better... in South Africa we get charged import taxes and the dudes that distribute it here (yep, Sony doesn\'t) ad their little profit as well so we are probably looking at about $1000. We paid $700 for the PS2 at launch. Count yourselves lucky ;-)
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Sorry to bust you bubble, you need to save some more.
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=57414
Sony better start praying as you can now buy a Xbox 360, Wii and a couple of games for that price. I think it is now getting out of hand... oh, and just to make you all feel a tad bit better... in South Africa we get charged import taxes and the dudes that distribute it here (yep, Sony doesn\'t) ad their little profit as well so we are probably looking at about $1000. We paid $700 for the PS2 at launch. Count yourselves lucky ;-)
The $800 price is for the 60 GB model. But Eurogamer\'s sources also claim that Sony isn\'t planning on releasing the cheaper 20 GB model at all, so it may be all or nothing for British gamers.
That is the part I love. Not even a strippe down model for \'em.
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good, there should one price point, one console
none of this "core" / "premium" bullshit.
it\'s fucking expensive, move on.
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good, there should one price point, one console
none of this "core" / "premium" bullshit.
it\'s fucking expensive, move on.
First...Thing..I agree with during this whole PS3 debacle.
There should be ONE set standard, nothing more. I\'ve read articles on Sony (and MS) wanting to make upgrade models and what not, it\'s bullshit. A system should have one set price point, one set of hardware and that is it. Anything else is complete bullshit. Infact, I\'d have more respect for both Sony and MS if they would of just done away with the "Core" non-sense...Then again, I want pack-in games back!
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now that\'s what i\'m talking about
my master system has alex kidd, and some shooting game built in.
power that baby up without a cartridge or card in it, and you were all set.
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if hi-def CGI = katamari 2, then sign me up
Could you imagine Katamari on the Wii? It would be so sweet to use the new controller to move the ball around.
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wow, $600 sure sounds like a bargain now that britian will be sold at $800. Who is here going to buy a few of them and put them on Ebay?
I agree, it would have been better if Sony just sell only the $600 version in America and be done with.
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Could you imagine Katamari on the Wii? It would be so sweet to use the new controller to move the ball around.
dual analog sticks are perfect control
two wii remotes? meh
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dual analog sticks are perfect control
two wii remotes? meh
Wait, doesn\'t the wii remote have an analog stick on it? Shit, I forget what it looks like. If it does, you can tilt the controller and use the analog stick. Well it would be different. When I played Katamari, it was tough for a while with the two analog sticks.
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This makes me want a PS3 at a 600 price tag
Real time almost CGI quality graphics at possibly 60fps
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0605/game060517a.shtml
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some real time pictures maybe near CG quality when compare to CG rendered pictures, but those realtime pictures look CG quality and better when compare to CG rendered video that were rendered around 8 years ago like FFVII CG rendered video clips.
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I think it looks as good as FFVIII FMV
Either way, the hero doesnt lose much quality from FMV to realtime, which is a good step forward. The untrained eye couldnt tell the difference.
Oh and Unicron, by the time FFXIII is released you could probably get the highend PS3 for at most $500 and the core version would be $400. I see FFXIII being released summer/fall 2008 in the US
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last i heard, FFXIII will be release earlier than that, as early as 2007.
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I hope thats true. Where did you hear that?
There will be 6, count it, 6 different games and or movies about the world of Final Fantasy XIII.
As long as the basic mythology is good, I won\'t mind.