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Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 02:13:44 PM
http://ruliwebfile.dreamwiz.com/mpeg3/e3_2006/ps3/mgs4_full_ps3.wmv

There you go, guys. Prepare to crap your pants.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 10, 2006, 02:20:37 PM
100MB? Damn. This better be good. The download is as long as the video. Why is DSL so slow lately?
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 02:31:37 PM
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100MB? Damn. This better be good.
Dude...it freaking rocks.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 10, 2006, 02:43:00 PM
Snake\'s suit.... I never saw that trick coming. Very cool to use normal mapping as a gameplay device.

Now who said gameplay innovation isn\'t possible by means of more advanced graphics effects ? Huh huh !!!!??? :fighting:
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 10, 2006, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Evi
http://ruliwebfile.dreamwiz.com/mpeg3/e3_2006/ps3/mgs4_full_ps3.wmv

There you go, guys. Prepare to crap your pants.

How\'s the quality of the video
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 10, 2006, 03:02:48 PM
I downloaded from another link. File was 100mb ; quality ok.
if it\'s bigger than 100mb it probably means HD rez.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 03:12:52 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
How\'s the quality of the video
It\'s about medium quality. I\'m sure an HD trailer will surface. I\'ll post it when it does.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 10, 2006, 03:22:38 PM
Quote from: Evi
It\'s about medium quality. I\'m sure an HD trailer will surface. I\'ll post it when it does.

Is it the same as the quality you posted of the short trailer?
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 03:25:22 PM
Dude. WTF? You have dial-up or something? If you have broadband, just download the freaking thing already.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 10, 2006, 04:05:05 PM
I have a 56k modem :p
I said it many times in the forums

Despite that I am downloading it :)
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Viper_Fujax on May 10, 2006, 04:06:50 PM
Quote from: Evi
Dude. WTF? You have dial-up or something? If you have broadband, just download the freaking thing already.


cyprus? broadband? :laughing:

I dont know anything about the storyline..i played a bit of the first one and hated it (thank god splinter cell came out and gave y the gameplay i was looking for). But the ninja vs. the machines part is awesome.

Im not making any judgements on this game because theres no in game footage yet. not even sure what direction theyre going in with that.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 10, 2006, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
cyprus? broadband? :laughing:

I dont know anything about the storyline..i played a bit of the first one and hated it (thank god splinter cell came out and gave y the gameplay i was looking for). But the ninja vs. the machines part is awesome.

Im not making any judgements on this game because theres no in game footage yet. not even sure what direction theyre going in with that.


Hey we DO have broadband

Its just that I dont have :p
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 10, 2006, 04:35:06 PM
Holy crap I like busted a nut watching that. That looks incredible. I hope that those are the graphics of the game. And raiden taking on all those metal gears was insane. He doesn\'t look or act like a pansy anymore. I\'m starting to wish we can play as him in part of the game.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 04:40:47 PM
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I hope that those are the graphics of the game.
The gameplay will look a bit different, but the trailer is using the in-game engine, which is known to be the MGS style since MGS1. It\'ll probably be the same difference from cut scene to gameplay like the last 3 games. I have no idea what to expect, but I can\'t wait!
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 10, 2006, 04:42:30 PM
Quote from: Evi
The gameplay will look a bit different, but the trailer is using the in-game engine, which is known to be the MGS style since MGS1. It\'ll probably be the same difference from cut scene to gameplay like the last 3 games. I have no idea what to expect, but I can\'t wait!


That is the developer\'s style. He uses the ingame engine for the cutscenes so there really isn\'t gonna be that much difference.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 10, 2006, 04:42:33 PM
Quote from: Evi
The gameplay will look a bit different, but the trailer is using the in-game engine, which is known to be the MGS style since MGS1.


Are you just making this up or did Konami confirm this?
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Evi on May 10, 2006, 04:44:44 PM
They\'ve showed cut scenes as trailers using the in-game engine for every game at E3 since MGS1. I don\'t know why they would change that now.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 10, 2006, 04:49:15 PM
I meant the downgrade in quality.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 10, 2006, 04:50:46 PM
Cut scenes are real time.They even made a live real time demonstration at TGS.

Btw None of you mentioned anything about the gameplay. I thought the 15minute trailer was going to have gameplay footage too
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 10, 2006, 04:52:04 PM
Anyway all this talk about real time is moot.

The PS3 is running on emulation. It\'s real time on whatever the hell platform they have to use right now.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 10, 2006, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
Cut scenes are real time.They even made a live real time demonstration at TGS.

Btw None of you mentioned anything about the gameplay. I thought the 15minute trailer was going to have gameplay footage too


I was hoping for gameplay footage too. Ah well, there will be more trailers and more hype.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: FatalXception on May 10, 2006, 06:55:03 PM
It\'s still a really, really crispy trailer... especially if you are a big fan of the series (like me).
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 10, 2006, 08:49:18 PM
I am not just a big fun... I am...A HUGE fan ;)
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 11, 2006, 03:52:21 AM
Quote from: Default
Anyway all this talk about real time is moot.

The PS3 is running on emulation. It\'s real time on whatever the hell platform they have to use right now.



Dude... play MGS1,2 and 3 Subsistence. The Kojima man has NEVER had to backpedal on ingame graphics promises.

If you pause stop watch the trailer you will see the polycount & fx are not outside of boundaries of other next gen games. It is just that the Kojima team
knows how to use the resources they have more efficiently than many other devs.

For example ; often their 3500 polygon models look better than the 5000 polygon models of other devs, just becuz they know how to make less poly\'s look like more.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Jumpman on May 11, 2006, 04:37:08 AM
I could make 1 poly look like a million.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: clips on May 11, 2006, 04:48:13 AM
Quote from: Knotter8
Dude... play MGS1,2 and 3 Subsistence. The Kojima man has NEVER had to backpedal on ingame graphics promises.

If you pause stop watch the trailer you will see the polycount & fx are not outside of boundaries of other next gen games. It is just that the Kojima team
knows how to use the resources they have more efficiently than many other devs.

For example ; often their 3500 polygon models look better than the 5000 polygon models of other devs, just becuz they know how to make less poly\'s look like more.


uhm..yep..tru...one thing about the metal gear games they look exceptionally fantastic...kojima and crew have always had a firm grip on sony\'s hardware...
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 11, 2006, 04:51:24 AM
incredible !
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 11, 2006, 06:23:39 AM
Can someone explain me why is Snake standing next to Big Boss\'s grave? He never met the original Big Boss. He only met Naked Snake
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 11, 2006, 06:42:12 AM
Big Boss = Naked Snake.

Nobody can be certain whose grave it is.

Why would Solid goto Big Boss\' grave ? Solid Snake opposed Big Boss\'s world vision.

It would make more sense to be Frank Jaeger\'s grave (Grey Fox) since he was Solid\'s only true friend back then.

Personally I think it could also be another person\'s grave......

* hints at awesome Raiden cyborg ninja scene...*
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Jumpman on May 11, 2006, 07:07:38 AM
Snake=Chuck Norris
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 11, 2006, 07:53:13 AM
As stated by Kojima himself, Snake\'s moustache is inspired by Lee van Kleef.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 11, 2006, 01:26:59 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
Can someone explain me why is Snake standing next to Big Boss\'s grave? He never met the original Big Boss. He only met Naked Snake


The person you\'re thinking of is just Boss, not Big Boss. Big Boss succeeded Boss. Snake did meet Big Boss because in the NES games, he killed him.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 11, 2006, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: Knotter8
Big Boss = Naked Snake.

Nobody can be certain whose grave it is.

Why would Solid goto Big Boss\' grave ? Solid Snake opposed Big Boss\'s world vision.

It would make more sense to be Frank Jaeger\'s grave (Grey Fox) since he was Solid\'s only true friend back then.

Personally I think it could also be another person\'s grave......

* hints at awesome Raiden cyborg ninja scene...*

Yeah but I was refering to the original big boss. Naked Snake\'s mentor ;)
Thast the exact spot Naked Snake was standing in MGS3 staring at his mentor\'s grave

Grey Fox sounds like a good guess. But I think he wasnt considered as a hero since he was with Big Boss (Naked Snake) at Zanzibar. Also he was unexpectedly brought in Shadow Mosses and considered as a cyborg. an experiment, not a human of flesh and bone that actually had life. Only Snake reckognised him as a hero. So I see no reason why he would have been burried there.

Btw is it me or do those Metal Gears sound like......cows :p

Hmm I doubt the last part though it is still a possibility. After I watched the video I am sure Raiden is just wearing the eksoskeleton.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: BizioEE on May 13, 2006, 02:01:52 PM
Fantastico ! :)
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 13, 2006, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
Btw is it me or do those Metal Gears sound like......cows :p

Hmm I doubt the last part though it is still a possibility. After I watched the video I am sure Raiden is just wearing the eksoskeleton.


Metal Gear Cow. Yeah they say booo indeed. These Metal Gear Gekkou\'s are really impressive imo. The scene when the staircase collapsed and how the MG Gekkou climbs up ; awesome !

Kojima\'s reason to choose this sound differs from Western perception, it\'s moreso Japanese. The sound is from Cikada ; some cow-like animal. According to Mr Kojima, the sound reminds Japanese ppl of the peaceful countryside inhabited by the cikada animals.
Therefore he says that the sound is to mislead the player, by giving this lethal weapon a peacefull sound.

So, the connotation is pretty different to Western ppl. It\'s evident Kojima\'s still making this game with Japanese gamers in mind as well.

Speaking of which ; Raiden\'s remake is to accustom him more to the style taste of Western/American gamers.

If there\'s anyone who wanted him dead more than the Raiden haters, after MGS2 ; it\'s the Patriots.

Raiden\'s nano machines contain the perimeter info on the Patriots. The Patriots want to either retreive it or destroy it. I\'d say the Patriots tried to assassinate Raiden inbetween the MGS2 - MGS4 timeline.

He\'s assumed dead, hence Snake saluting a (his) grave, but revived as cyborg ninja and resurfaces as such during MGS4 storyline.

but hey, that\'s just my theory....
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 13, 2006, 02:48:15 PM
Nice thought by Hideo :)

Also I think you could be right about Raiden. Good thinking.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 13, 2006, 03:06:54 PM
I third that about Raiden. Its a shame there wasn\'t a game released that you played as him where he got like that, maybe a minigame. Feel bad for Rose and the child though, lol.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 13, 2006, 03:10:07 PM
It\'s still just a theory heheh.

Most ppl think it\'s Big Boss\' or Grey Fox\'s grave. Some even think that Kojima is lying and that Raiden will be partially playable afterall.

Look at his feet ; I have a hard time believing any normal human feet would fit in there. I\'d say all of Raiden left is his torso, his head and his thighs, the rest is robocop.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.i.com.com%2Fcnet.g2%2Fimages%2F2006%2F128%2F926596_20060509_screen012.jpg&hash=100596446215d37768fe34e898c87131bf215a5d)
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 13, 2006, 03:11:59 PM
Quote from: Knotter8
It\'s still just a theory heheh.

Most ppl think it\'s Big Boss\' or Grey Fox\'s grave. Some even think that Kojima is lying and that Raiden will be partially playable afterall.


Raiden looking like that I actually would like to partially play him, if not a whole second game where it follows simultaneously with Snake. Like you play as Snake then beat the game and play as Raiden in his own thing or visa versa.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 13, 2006, 06:36:00 PM
haha its funny that when everybody got the chance to play as Raiden they hated him and now that he is probably not playable everyone wants to play as him :laughing:
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Animal Mother on May 13, 2006, 06:54:53 PM
Quote from: Knotter8
As stated by Kojima himself, Snake\'s moustache is inspired by Lee van Kleef.


And, Revolver Ocelot was inspired by Lee van KLeef. I love the MGS series, and Konami. Bring on a PS3 High-def Silent Hill!
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 13, 2006, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: Animal Mother
And, Revolver Ocelot was inspired by Lee van KLeef. I love the MGS series, and Konami. Bring on a PS3 High-def Silent Hill!

MAN THAT WOULD RULE!!! :thumb:
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Knotter8 on May 14, 2006, 10:52:53 AM
Kojima would do wise to make MGS4 the last MGS, otherwise we get Milking Gear Solid.

The SH series already has part #4. Imho Team Silent shouldn\'t stay silent,  but try something totally new.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Evi on May 14, 2006, 11:07:26 AM
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Kojima would do wise to make MGS4 the last MGS, otherwise we get Milking Gear Solid.
I wouldn\'t mind a new Zone of the Enders game.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 14, 2006, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
haha its funny that when everybody got the chance to play as Raiden they hated him and now that he is probably not playable everyone wants to play as him :laughing:


That\'s because he looked and acted like a pansy in MGS2. Now he looks pretty badass and doesn\'t act like such a pansy.
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 14, 2006, 08:15:05 PM
Heh, I found this on YTMND and I thought it was appropriate for the MGS talk. IT IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK But the person who did this one was pretty clever. They could have used a better picture for this one (like the one in the end where they actually had sex) but its the audio that I found funny. Pretty well spliced. Anyway, if you think its retarded, oh well.

http://mgsporn.ytmnsfw.com/
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Unicron! on May 15, 2006, 02:04:09 AM
hahahah very funny hahahaha
Title: E3 2006 - Metal Gear Solid 4 - NEW 15 MINUTE TRAILER
Post by: Titan on May 15, 2006, 01:09:42 PM
I was careful posting that one this time. When I posted the masterbation YTMND it didn\'t get a good reaction, lol. But glad someone had a chuckle :)