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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Riku on May 24, 2006, 10:50:51 AM
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Wednesday 24 May 2006
High street games shops have been told by Sony that there will be no PS3 pre-owned sections in their stores as it will be illegal for customers to sell any next-gen PlayStation games that they\'ve bought, retail sources have revealed to GamesRadar.
It seems that Sony is planning to adopt a licensing system that will mean gamers won\'t own the PS3 titles that they\'ve paid money for. Instead, they will only be purchasing the licence to play the game and that the software itself will still be Sony property - meaning that the disc won\'t be the customer\'s to sell.
We assume that the thinking behind this move will ultimately be to stop PS3 games being resold several times - which currently snatches potential sales away from Sony - and to counter the impression in consumers\' minds that games are only really worth their pre-owned price and are not worth buying new.
When we contacted Sony, it issued us with the following statement: "We have made all of the official announcements at E3 and cannot make any further comments at this time. We will be announcing more news running up to PlayStation 3\'s launch."
Linkified (http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20060524153157765035§ionId=1006)
...I won\'t believe it until I hear it from Sony, but on that same token I wouldn\'t be the least bit surprised.
If it does happen then I see many a PS3 gamer taking a liking to ebay.
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did pstwo change his name and Riku?
and it\'s nice to see gamesradar posting what was news from months ago
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did pstwo change his name and Riku?
and it\'s nice to see gamesradar posting what was news from months ago
that news was about blu-ray games having something on them that would only allow a game to be played on the first console it was put in.
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That\'s a b.s. news story.
High street games shops have been told by Sony that there will be no PS3 pre-owned sections in their stores as it will be illegal for customers to sell any next-gen PlayStation games that they\'ve bought
Uh huh.
Oh, I see, a $60 loan program. :rolleyes:
-Dan
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Eik, ever see used copies of windows or office for sale?
most of all the computer software I have states in the user agreement that I don\'t have a right to sell it.
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Paranoid much?
Edit: didn\'t read the article....my first line still stands.
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Sony doesn\'t make money from used game sales.
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yes, thank you. I edited my post .5 seconds before you responded.
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that news was about blu-ray games having something on them that would only allow a game to be played on the first console it was put in.
In past news, Sony announced they won\'t be doing that.
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yes, I know.
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Then why are you bringing it up like it was announced yesterday?
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to troll?
it was posted on slashdot (who is always weeks behind the news) earlier this afternoon, then the xbox!!!!!!!!\'s saw it
http://www.ps3focus.com/archives/159
Sony Computer Entertainment’s UK PR Manager Jennie Kong stated,
“I would like to clarify that [the Playstation 3 locking out used game discs] is false speculation and that Playstation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any Playstation 3 console.”
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3086&Itemid=2
this story seems a bit far-fetched."
FUD
honestly Riku, i expect better
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to troll?
Hey mm, do you have that "Troll Alert" avatar on your computer? I think its about time to bring that out of retirement ;)
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Then why are you bringing it up like it was announced yesterday?
mm was obviously referring to it as it was the only thing remotely similar in the past few months.
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to troll?
it was posted on slashdot (who is always weeks behind the news) earlier this afternoon, then the xbox!!!!!!!!\'s saw it
http://www.ps3focus.com/archives/159
FUD
honestly Riku, i expect better
this is not the same thing, mm. that rumor was debunked MONTHS ago, btw.
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just tell me if you want this thread closed, i don\'t mind
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why would you close it? It has as much a reason to be here as any other thread.
you were wrong, get over it. it\'s funny how none of you want to discuss the possible consequences, both good and bad, but automatically go on the defensive. Not one of you actually read the article and comprehended it, otherwise you would have known it was not the same news.
In any case...here are some things to discuss:
It\'s not as if this would be entirely new for anyone. In fact, anyone who has bought Live Arcade games has agreed to a similar agreement. Digital distribution of full games is inevitable, and will likely have similar restricitions.
Most of all PC software has this agreement.
Publishers would LOVE this. Retailers would hate it.
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Why it should be closed:
1) mm refuted what you said
2) you aren\'t bringing in facts but rumors and speculation
3) you are bringing in rumors that were months old AND refuted by Sony themselves
4) you are bringing in the old rumors despite being refuted by Sony and acting as if they are fact
5) I think I\'m losing my intelligence by reading your posts
6) this topic brings nothing worthwile to the board and is just retarded fighting with no decent facts to back up your claim despite being refuted and proven wrong
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Why it should be closed:
1) mm refuted what you said
2) you aren\'t bringing in facts but rumors and speculation
3) you are bringing in rumors that were months old AND refuted by Sony themselves
4) you are bringing in the old rumors despite being refuted by Sony and acting as if they are fact
5) I think I\'m losing my intelligence by reading your posts
6) this topic brings nothing worthwile to the board and is just retarded fighting with no decent facts to back up your claim despite being refuted and proven wrong
1) mm refuted something I didn\'t state as news
2) like 99% of all other threads
3) sony has not refuted this
4) i never said they were fact. In FACT, I said I\'d wait until I heard it from Sony themselves. It was brought in here to discuss possible ramifications.
5) I think you\'re really bad at reading
6) again, it hasn\'t been refuted or proven wrong.
Read this very carefully. This is NOT related to the old news about the blu-ray discs themselves having some sort tech on them so they would only play on one machine. No, this news is about Sony instructing retailers not to have used PS3 game sections. If you had read the article you\'d know this.
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It is true that license agreements on business software always forbid resale, but this would be a big departure to permit the same licensing on mass market consumer software like games. I suspect this will open Sony to a class action lawsuit from retailers or consumers.
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Not to mention that Microsoft gets away with it because they develop and publish Office and Windows themselves so its completely theirs. Games are developed and published by third parties and not by Sony themselves. I don\'t see this flying.
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Riku, I won\'t believe that link until I see an actual full written statement by Sony. That was a short article and didn\'t even give that many specifics about it. Its pure speculation at this point.
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Riku, I won\'t believe that link until I see an actual full written statement by Sony. That was a short article and didn\'t even give that many specifics about it. Its pure speculation at this point.
To defend Riku a bit, he did clearly state it was speculation, nobody is saying otherwise.
As for the possibility, I don\'t see it happening and if it did it would ruffle far too many feathers for sony\'s liking.
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To defend Riku a bit, he did clearly state it was speculation, nobody is saying otherwise.
As for the possibility, I don\'t see it happening and if it did it would ruffle far too many feathers for sony\'s liking.
wow, thanks.
Imagine if the public didn\'t mind. If anyone is in a position to do it, it\'s Sony. Publishers would have more reason than ever to put as many games on Playstation 3 as possible. There would be pressure on Nintendo and Microsoft to follow suit.
I can\'t help but wonder how many people buy used games only, or at least make it habit to check for the used game first. I can tell you that most of the 40 or so games I have (PS2, GC, and Xbox) are used. I usually wait a good year or so before I pick a game up, and won\'t pay more than $20.
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Just to play devil\'s advocate, it\'ll happen eventually, someone will try it.
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class action lawsuit x a million
Consumers should have the right to make money back on physical media such as games, music, and DVDs.
If Sony was smart they\'d allow u to purchase & download games digitally. You can\'t resell Direct-2-Drive PC games, or iTunes songs for that matter. :highfive:
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to not defend Riku, it didn\'t need posted...at all.
is was speculation months ago
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to not defend Riku, it didn\'t need posted...at all.
is was speculation months ago
link it
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i already did...
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then you\'re just slow...
what you linked and what I originally posted are two different things.
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....sigh
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This is why I\'m not much of a Sony fan.
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Er...
http://www.ps3land.com/article-392.php
http://www.playfuls.com/news_3827.html
but on that same token I wouldn\'t be the least bit surprised.
Gee...who would\'ve guess you\'d think that way?
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Even if stores have no pre-owned section ebay will still offer plenty of opportunities to pick up used games.
Every person has the right to resell something they have legally purchased.
I always look for a used copy of a game, only a fool would not try and save some cash.
but lets face it.. its developers that are getting pinched here. It\'s a good thing for developers.
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evi, good find on the first link. That was a fast response from Sony, only took a day. the second one was not necessary as it does NOT pertain to my original post.
ddaryl, you do not have the legal right to resell eveything you purchase. read the agreements on some of your computer software, digital downloads, etc.
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Would you be able to resell it if you uninstalled it completely or no? That\'d make sense since you\'re not pirating anything - there\'d only be one owner to one product at any given time.
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Would you be able to resell it if you uninstalled it completely or no? That\'d make sense since you\'re not pirating anything - there\'d only be one owner to one product at any given time.
sometimes, and sometimes no.
My Lightwave, for example, does allow that though I\'d have to go to an official reseller to make it legal. All depends on the user agreement.
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I bet there is no law in giving it away.
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I bet there is no law in giving it away.
you\'re probably right, but how many people do you know that just give things away?
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you\'re probably right, but how many people do you know that just give things away?
If they really don\'t want it? i.e. me don\'t want a game anymore?
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If they really don\'t want it? i.e. me don\'t want a game anymore?
I\'m just saying, I don\'t know that many people who just give things away so it\'s kind of a moot point...as is this thread considering the rumor was debunked...
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the rumor was debunked by common sense before your posted it
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the rumor was debunked by common sense before your posted it
wasn\'t official, mm.
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common sense wasn\'t offical?
i certainly believe it
so any 3rd rate intarweb news site and say wtf they want, and stretch the truth to get hits for thier shitty web site, and it\'s a possibility until sony officially states otherwise?
sure, run with that
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common sense wasn\'t offical?
i certainly believe it
no, it\'s not. do you plan on going anywhere with this? you\'ll get tired of it before I will.
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tired? see that date under my name?
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common sense wasn\'t offical?
i certainly believe it
so any 3rd rate intarweb news site and say wtf they want, and stretch the truth to get hits for thier shitty web site, and it\'s a possibility until sony officially states otherwise?
sure, run with that
yes, it is.
hey, I remember when you took the word of a eb employee that the 360 would be in short supply at launch, and would be scarce all the way through April. it was reported by a retail employee. this is no different, except that in the end it\'s not true.
you\'re hypocrite. have been as long as I\'ve known you.
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tired? see that date under my name?
you always give up. you\'re going to start with snide remarks and eventually threaten to lock the thread. same old, same old.
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oh, you must have me confused with soully
shall i tell you the last time i locked a thread in any of the psx2c forums? please don\'t ask me to, cause i\'ll have to research. although i believe watchdog was still posting.
i\'ll just do my normal mocking and belittling routine like always.
never truly choosing a side in any of this console nonsense, while i watch you and the rest of the scamps dance around to amuse me.
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That reminds me, who locked your thread mm?
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oh, you must have me confused with soully
shall i tell you the last time i locked a thread in any of the psx2c forums? please don\'t ask me to, cause i\'ll have to research. although i believe watchdog was still posting.
i\'ll just do my normal mocking and belittling routine like always.
never truly choosing a side in any of this console nonsense, while i watch you and the rest of the scamps dance around to amuse me.
no, it\'s you. it\'s always been you. I don\'t think Soully was still a mod when I came around.
I won\'t ask. I just know you have, and it\'s after you get frustrated.
your mocking and belittling routine is poor at best. you\'ve really slipped over the years.
a scamp...I\'m a scamp :)
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frustrated? meh.
if anything, i\'ve gotten older and softened.
calling someone a cocksucker and asking them to die in a car fire just doesn\'t the same ring to it.
oh, how i miss N64CC days......
i got a crippled xbox 360, a gimmicky wii, and an expensive PS3 to give me more than enough ammo for years to come.
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frustrated? meh.
if anything, i\'ve gotten older and softened.
calling someone a cocksucker and asking them to die in a car fire just doesn\'t the same ring to it.
oh, how i miss N64CC days......
i got a crippled xbox 360, a gimmicky wii, and an expensive PS3 to give me more than enough ammo for years to come.
nah, still the same. although I must admit that your posts are getting a bit longer. not as many one and two liners. what\'s up with that?
lol. trite. it\'s like you\'re not even trying.
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it\'s been over 10 years of this.
my hall of fame seat is reserved
almost time for someone else to carry the torch of reality and bittter intolerance for stupidity.
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almost time for someone else to carry the torch of bittter intolerance and stupidity.
fixed
:rofl:
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isn\'t there an xbox forum somewhere you should be ripping anti-sony news from?
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frustrated? meh.
I suck cock and want to die in a car fire
There NOW it\'s fixed.
(and you said it lost its effect, such a pity for you)
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holy shit, phil! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
isn\'t there an xbox forum somewhere you should be ripping anti-sony news from?
nah, I\'m good for now.
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nah, I\'m good for now.
You sure?
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You sure?
now I\'m not...okay, got something...
edit: never mind
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Anyone who believes in this shit is a dumb cockfat.
I didn\'t read this thread yet, so uhh, good luck on not being one.
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There NOW it\'s fixed.
(and you said it lost its effect, such a pity for you)
Haha, who said this place was devoid of humor?
That made me laugh, heh.