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Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Eiksirf on May 25, 2006, 02:31:44 PM
WWE is pulling the trigger and re-launching ECW as its own brand with a one hour Tuesday timeslot on SciFi.

Tommy Dreamer and Paul Heyman will be the writers for the show.

This cool to anyone else or are we an exclusively "wrestling is gay" crowd?

-Dan
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: videoholic on May 25, 2006, 02:32:38 PM
Pretty exculsive.
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: fre4d4 on May 25, 2006, 03:08:59 PM
Have always enjoyed wrestling
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Jumpman on May 25, 2006, 03:48:06 PM
i hope it doesnt completely suck
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: mjps21983 on May 25, 2006, 03:48:39 PM
ECW is cool but why the fuck is Terry Funk still alive let alone wrestling.
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Luke on May 25, 2006, 04:33:54 PM
I used to love ECW with all my heart. Infact, the time I stopped watching wrestling corresponds exactly with ECW biting the dust.


I\'ll be watching.
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: clips on May 25, 2006, 10:09:49 PM
i was never really big on ecw,...mainly because i wasn\'t familiar with the wrestlers,..i still try to catch wwe from time to time tho...
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Eiksirf on May 26, 2006, 03:42:26 AM
Quote from: mjps21983
ECW is cool but why the fuck is Terry Funk still alive let alone wrestling.

Yeah, ECW gave him his swan song like 7 years ago. He can hardly move around now. Though he\'s a crazy son of a bitch, so I\'m sure he\'ll go out and get his ass handed to him before taking another year off to recover.
 
He needs to give it up or find a new role. Being active is bad for his health.
 
Clips, once you find a couple characters to hook into, it becomes a much more compelling show. Or at least, it was. Dreamer and Heyman are better writers than what the WWE has, even if WWE stories are getting much more watchable lately. (On Raw anyway, I don\'t really catch Smackdown anymore)
 
-Dan
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: clips on May 26, 2006, 04:54:06 AM
i agree with the terry funk thing,..i saw him this past week on raw, my first reaction was that this cat needs to sit down somewhere,...ric flair is another who i feel needs to give it a rest. you can tell how other wrestlers take "extra care" of him when they wrestle him...hulk hogan was another as well,..he just looked terrible in the ring in his last few matches. as far as ecw goes, i\'ll just have to try and check for it...and i agree that raw has had the better storylines lately than smackdown, i find myself watching raw more....on a side note..does anybody know why batista left the show? i think i heard it was because his mother was sick, but i\'m not sure if that was the actual reason...
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Eiksirf on May 26, 2006, 05:32:45 AM
No he was injured. He was acutally working injured for a while and I think hurt something else and finally went out for surgery. Off my head, maybe it was shoulder surgery... but I\'m not sure.
 
He was at Wrestlemania hinting about being champ again by Wrestlemania 23. He\'ll be back.
 
For as tremendous a shape as he\'s in, he\'s actually one of the older wrestlers. Up in his 40s, though he looks 29 or something.
 
When Flair takes a fall now, it\'s scary. And he took a few bumps from the top of a ladder recently. He\'s been off tv for a few weeks now after being squashed by the new Samoan guy. So that\'s good news for his body.
 
-Dan
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Post by: clips on June 08, 2006, 03:59:26 AM
i saw that samoan dude take out that big black dude on raw last week...forgot that dude\'s name, but he\'s the one with the blond mohawk,(viscera)..anyway i don\'t like what they\'re doin with him,..he\'s just what they call a "jobber" now...not too long ago he used to be terrorizin\' everybody on that show,..and yes i know it\'s all staged, but they could\'ve made it into some sort of match,..a guy that big doesn\'t get destroyed that quick even if he was suprised attacked....and will somebody please get rid of the spirit squad? I can\'t stand those :gfight: fairies... their gimmick is REAL weak and i\'m surprised to see them headlinin\' with triple h...i saw no heat whatsoever with that fued...

the last great fued for wrestling were the triple h & rock matches..they had some stellar moments every time they faced...
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Eiksirf on June 08, 2006, 04:30:01 AM
Umaga is actually a decent wrestler tho, just with a lame gimmick. His manager is entertaining as hell: Armando Alejandro Estrada.
 
So they had the ECW vs WWE show last night and Big Show joined ECW. It\'s going to be a lame brand if they don\'t let Heyman and Dreamer do it justice. I have a feeling Vince and crew will bring it down.
 
They already plan on taping most of the shows in front of the Smackdown crowds which is a huge mistake. They should hire extra crew and let them do their own thing as a separate entity, but whatever... We\'ll see how it turns out.
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Post by: clips on June 08, 2006, 04:39:21 AM
yea i agree..they need to let ecw have their own thing...i\'m sure vince could get it on another network...they already have an audience for it, and i\'m sure they have wrestlers as well...putting it on in front of the smackdown audience just waters down the whole experience.
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Post by: Eiksirf on June 08, 2006, 04:56:17 AM
They got it its own timeslot, 10 p.m. EST on Sci Fi, Tuesday night.
 
But they intend to begin taping shows back to back with the Smackdown taping. WWE crowd is not ECW crowd, so I hope they come up with a different idea, even if they are doin it to make things easier for their backstage crews.
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Post by: CHIZZY on June 08, 2006, 05:08:00 AM
I can\'t believe anyone over 12 watches that.
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: videoholic on June 08, 2006, 05:12:06 AM
Well I don\'t think anyone mentally over 12 watches it.
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Eiksirf on June 08, 2006, 05:51:41 AM
Not bad, a wrestling thread lasted a few weeks before becoming insulting. Might be a record.
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: videoholic on June 08, 2006, 05:56:13 AM
No, didn\'t you read my first reply?
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Post by: Unicron! on June 08, 2006, 06:20:06 AM
Quote from: Eiksirf
WWE is pulling the trigger and re-launching ECW as its own brand with a one hour Tuesday timeslot on SciFi.

Tommy Dreamer and Paul Heyman will be the writers for the show.

This cool to anyone else or are we an exclusively "wrestling is gay" crowd?

-Dan

Is it true that they are relaunching it after Smackdown went overboard with too much staged acts, too much shows and the likes and so they decided to replace it?
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Eiksirf on June 08, 2006, 06:35:28 AM
Heh, vid that one was honest, not insulting. :)
 
Uni - not quite. They\'re relaunching it as a separate brand to try to make more money.
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: clips on June 15, 2006, 09:18:57 PM
rvd..defeated john cena...with a little help from edge...but i just had a feelin they were going to give the title to rvd,..but now raw has no belt..i wonder how they are going to work that? i missed the debut of ecw on sci-fi..eik you\'re the only wrestlin\' fan here, maybe a quick update?
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Post by: Eiksirf on June 16, 2006, 03:35:58 AM
It was a complete train wreck. Horrid, awful show.
 
Google "pwinsider" and go to the PWInsider Xtra site. Twenty pages of negative feedback.
 
They had no storylines, tons of WWE guys, squashed the entire ECW roster, debuted a Zombie and a Vampire, had almost no competitive in-ring action and debuted a stripper who couldn\'t unbutton her bra, try as she might. They taped in front of a silent Smackdown audience. No chants all night.
 
It was awful.
 
On the bright side, couldn\'t be any worse next Tuesday.
 
-Dan
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Post by: shockwaves on June 16, 2006, 03:47:38 AM
Awful as it may have been, something about Van Dam having the WWE title on one shoulder and the ECW title on the other still made me smile.

They were advertising ECW dates at smaller venues...are they gonna start giving ECW it\'s own tapings with its own fans?
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Eiksirf on June 16, 2006, 05:36:13 AM
They\'d better. I might go to the June 24 or July 4 (tv taping!) shows at the ECW Arena.
 
It\'s gonna be great telling Heyman he sold out. That\'ll be a weird dynamic heh.
 
Hopefully I can get tix. They go on sale for the 24th house show tomorrow.
 
Should be a better booked show (no tv) and in front of a passionate crowd.
 
-Dan
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Post by: shockwaves on June 16, 2006, 12:45:56 PM
If they start giving the show their own TV tapings in front of their own crowds, and actually let Heyman write what happens, I think it\'ll take off again.  I just hope they don\'t make it about the WWE wrestlers like Angle, Big Show, etc.  I really wish instead of them, they had brought wrestlers like Benoit, Mysterio, Foley, etc. back to ECW.

And as much as the first Tuesday night show sucked, there was something that really stuck with me about Heyman yelling "Rob!  Rob!  Cover him!" as he ran into the ring during the PPV.
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Post by: clips on June 22, 2006, 04:59:37 AM
i keep missin this thing sci-fi...mainly because i work nights..:mad:..i did happen to see a little bit of raw and how van dam beat up on edge a bit....are they just gonna be bum rushin\' each-other\'s gig from here on out?..i hope not..just give the ecw boyz their own universe and storylines and involve wwe guys like once in a blue...anywayz was ecw better this week than their debut?
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Post by: Eiksirf on June 22, 2006, 07:54:08 AM
They\'re cross promoting right now to get the brand on its feet, but that should stop. I wanted to add that the last episode, while not great, was a huge improvement.
 
A couple competitive matches and some new characters. The sports entertainment ga ga was reduced. They changed the lighting and camera work to create a more intimate feel. And the July 4 episode will be taped in Philly (moved to the Wachovia Center) which will hopefully do wonders for the crowd. They\'re only starting to catch on at the Smackdown tapings where this show is currently taped.
 
Sabu is the MVP so far, pulling out another great performance in the opening match against Tony Marmaluke. The main event tag was another good fight that was given a lot of time. This week, Kelly got her bra off and a former OVW wrestler Mike Knox came out to cover her up, to the disappointment of everyone, so hopefully that goes somewhere.
 
Big Show mauled Dreamer who had said he was like the gatekeeper for ECW. But at the end, Dreamer was pulling himself up with a smile on his face, so he\'ll be back to stand up against Show again.
 
Sandman continues to cane jobbers, but I think it might lead to the vampire dude (formerly Mordecia - blech) and maybe Gangrel coming in to give him a run for his money and start up another feud.
 
It\'s getting there.
 
-Dan
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Post by: clips on June 27, 2006, 09:35:46 PM
heh heh i only saw a little bit of raw this week...who is this kane impersonator?....i caught the end where he was holding his old mask in his hands..i liked kane a little better with the mask,...kinda kept him mysterious....the match with rvd and cena was decent. rvd can really show off some of his martial arts ONLY if he\'s workin with the right people,..i\'ve seen him in plenty of matches were he is just takin\' care of the other wrestler waaay too much,...i mean his kicks and elbows would be just barley touchin his opponents, i mean i know all of the wrestlers hold back and take care of each-other to a point, but rvd is a little over the top...

but that could be because i\'ve heard that some of the wrestlers were complaining of being kicked in the mouth alot by him,...anyway, i was kinda mad at how they made edge come in and break up the match...i guess it was good in a way, because that drew alot of heat towards edge...the return of dx is meh(wack)...triple h and shawn micheals tryin to relive the glory days?:rolleyes:....i\'m not feelin\' it, but the wwe crowd seems to go crazy for it...

and as fine as some of the women wrestlers are,..i just find myself turning the channel when they\'re on...they are just  plain horrible....
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: clips on July 14, 2006, 11:42:41 PM
didn\'t see raw this week, but i did happen to catch some smackdown...glad to see batista is back...and he looks to be in great shape...another wrestler that i\'m startin to like even tho he\'s a little corny is mr. kennaday!...........kennaday!...:D..yo, this cat is too funny!...decent wresting skills too...i did notice tho that they changed his finisher move. he used to carry his opponents on his shoulders on the top turnbuckle then flip forward smashing them,...but i guess he got injured doin that, because he just recently came back from an injury,...i also like that group the bulldogs,...but jamie whatever his name is just looks :gfight: with those tights on,..yeah i know they all wear "em but his just look like panties or some s**t..weird...anyway just like boxing,..the cruiseweight wrestlers are far more exciting than the heavyweights...the king booker skit?...i think it\'s kinda weak,....a couple of years ago when he had a fued with christian, he was coming up strong with a chance for the intercontinental belt, but when he got injured, he kinda lost some momentum when he came back...
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Post by: Eiksirf on July 15, 2006, 06:33:09 AM
I pretty much agree with everything you just said.  If you like cruiserweights, I recommend taping (it\'s on late) and watching TNA wrestling. Thursdays on Spike and 11pm EST.

I just started doing that this week. It\'s only an hour but there\'s way more going on than a whole episode of Smackdown...

...Kennnedy!!!
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: clips on September 04, 2006, 09:47:26 AM
ok i just cannot stand that gay italian dude that walks around with a skirt on!...:rolleyes:...flipping up his skirt all the time...his gig is sooo weak, i mean i know at some point there was always a gay wrestler in the business *adrian adonis*<---- waay back in the day, meh i guess you can say i\'ve never liked them...i did happen to see ecw finally, for me it was kinda on the weak side, maybe it\'s because i\'m not familiar with the other wrestlers, but i just wasn\'t too impressed with it..

whelp my man mr. kenneday is the u.s. champ and even tho he\'s what people in the business call a heel, i love his character, he\'s hilarious....and i\'m still not feelin. king booker or this revitalization of degeneration x...triple h is just out of his element as a "good" guy,... they need to keep him at his roots as a solid heel,...the only time where he had no choice but to become a good guy was when he came back to raw from his quad injury...good lord,...the standing ovation he recieved when he casme back was off the scale....the wwe had no choice but to make him a good guy, but other than that, he needs to stay as the top heel in the business...

i\'am still very much impressed with the bulldogs and paul london and crew..these guys continue to give solid performances, and as usual their matches are better than the heavyweights....almost forgot about jeff hardy...i see he\'s back as well, some of his stuff still looks sloppy and he\'s gained some weight as well,..i don\'t see him goin further than what he was before which was a mid card wrestler...
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Post by: clips on May 21, 2007, 09:43:36 AM
small update, as usual i know nobody cares for this, but i thought i\'d try to get a comment out of Eik...so Eik, what do you think about Vince bein the ecw champ?....i hate it when he involves himself in the storylines, you mean to tell me that there\'s no other worthy wrestler in ecw to hold the belt?...Vince is compltely destroyin\' that franchise, he\'s acting like he has to inject himself into the storyline to save it, when in actuality, all he is doing is ruining it....

Those matches with stone cold and the rock was good back in tha day, but now? it\'s just tired,... when vince brught ecw back, he had a chance to make it great, but i see that he wants it to be raw & smackdown\'s biatch!....why is lashley on wwe programming so much?.....they just need to let ecw be it\'s own entity without bogging it down with raw\'s and smackdown superstars and Vince\'s bulls**t...
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: Eiksirf on May 22, 2007, 04:41:23 AM
I like Vince more than the last guy who was champ. Bobby.
 
He\'s awful.
 
ECW is only good now when Elijah Burke, Marcus Cor Von or CM Punk are on.  Those guys are good.
 
That show is pretty awful. And this month\'s One Night Stand pay per view is going to be a waste of time.
 
There are a lot of problems with the storytelling in WWE shows, and Vince being champ is just part of it.
Title: ECW returns June 13
Post by: clips on May 22, 2007, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: Eiksirf
I like Vince more than the last guy who was champ. Bobby.
 
He\'s awful.
 
ECW is only good now when Elijah Burke, Marcus Cor Von or CM Punk are on.  Those guys are good.
 
That show is pretty awful. And this month\'s One Night Stand pay per view is going to be a waste of time.
 
There are a lot of problems with the storytelling in WWE shows, and Vince being champ is just part of it.



i agree with you on Bobby Lashley...while this cat has a great physique, his skills in the ring are just lackluster....i did happen to see tna awhile back and it was pretty decent..i noticed that kurt angle is over there now, and while i was never really a big fan of kurt\'s, i do know that he works hard in the ring...he has a better intro over in tna as well...it also seems that the dudley boyz and Christian are doin it big over there too....