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Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 25, 2006, 04:39:38 PM
Hearing decent things about it. Anyone else plan on seeing it tomorrow?

The ending to this scene alone makes it worthwhile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXI83JimP2A
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Paul2 on May 25, 2006, 04:45:29 PM
it almost sounds like he is saying he\'s a janitor.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Titan on May 25, 2006, 05:04:13 PM
I haven\'t seen the first two yet so I\'m gonna watch them then go see the third....if I don\'t feel lazy.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 25, 2006, 05:11:41 PM
The first one is kind of crappy story wise...the characters are pretty cool but everything else falls flat.

2 was a damn good improvement.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Paul2 on May 25, 2006, 05:49:02 PM
I actually like the first X-Men, the story was quite good.  the 2nd is better as there are more cool actions and more interesting storyline.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Luke on May 25, 2006, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: Jumpman
The first one is kind of crappy story wise...the characters are pretty cool but everything else falls flat.

2 was a damn good improvement.


I agree completely!


I\'m looking forward to X3 just like I looked forward to all the X-Men films sence the minute they were announced.



I\'m the Juggernaut, bitch.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: QuDDus on May 25, 2006, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: Paul2
I actually like the first X-Men, the story was quite good.  the 2nd is better as there are more cool actions and more interesting storyline.


I like the first one. I thought it could have been better but it is what it is. Found the second one to be a huge leap over the first. Can\'t wait to see the third one. One thing I don\'t understand is why they are ending the X-men series at 3? I really don\'t understand the whole reason in that.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Phil on May 25, 2006, 06:22:42 PM
Hasn\'t 4 already been confirmed?  If it hasn\'t I wouldn\'t be surprised if it is in the near future.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 07:29:50 PM
I plan on seeing it tomorrow. I hope it\'s good. From the longest trailer there appears to be a crapload of mutants in this one...way more than the first two combined.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: FatalXception on May 25, 2006, 09:09:16 PM
Just watched 1 and 2 in preparation for watching 3 when it hits theatres this weekend.  Depends on work schedule.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 09:15:45 PM
^^

I\'ve got both on DVD so I did the same. Trying to psyche myself up. :p
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Titan on May 25, 2006, 09:16:55 PM
A few of my friends are already at the midnight showing as we speak. Me? I\'m just the dork who sits in front of his computer in the corner of his room talking to other dorks like Evi and have no social life :p
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 09:24:06 PM
Yes...dorks like me. What are you doing this weekend? I\'m building a cabin out in the woods of Arizona for my grandmother and great aunt with my bare hands. This Saturday we\'re putting up the roof. There\'s still a few months left of work, but it\'s all good. Bringing my dog and a few friends out there. There\'ll be a campfire and stuff. What are you doing this weekend? Jacking off? I have a life. Sorry to break it to you.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Titan on May 25, 2006, 09:32:28 PM
Haha, I love you Evi. Funny thing is you hit the nail on the head about my weekend plans. Except you forgot about the porn ;)

Actually, saturday I\'m working (fun stuff...*sigh*) all day. Hopefully afterwards I get to hang out with some friends. They\'ve all been doing their own things lately and I kinda want to spend a night out with the guys. Sunday, I\'m hoping to go down the shore for the day with this girl. That should be fun if she can go. Otherwise, if she doesn\'t, I\'m gonna either hang out with some friends or play Guitar Hero or both. Got some friends addicted to it and would be fun.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 09:35:03 PM
I have yet to play that cheesy game, though I\'m hearing so many good things about it. Must be a fun party game or something...when you\'re drunk.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Titan on May 25, 2006, 09:41:21 PM
Quote from: Evi
I have yet to play that cheesy game, though I\'m hearing so many good things about it. Must be a fun party game or something...when you\'re drunk.


I can\'t play it drunk. Even on medium. Its hard when you\'re senses are dull and reaction slow. It is a fun and addicting game though. If you have a second guitar controller, its a lot of fun.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 09:46:29 PM
Eh. If I find someone that owns it I\'ll give it a try. But most of the people at my college don\'t play games. They just do drugs all the time (Meth seems quite popular here). I was getting pretty close to this one chick, but I\'ve stopped talking to her because one day after school, she took me out to eat and afterwards she pulled to the side of the road and injected coke into her arm, then proceeded to drive on the other side of the road. She said it was cool like Fast and the Furious. I thought I was going to die.

But uh yeah...X-Men 3!
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Titan on May 25, 2006, 09:49:37 PM
Quote from: Evi
Eh. If I find someone that owns it I\'ll give it a try. But most of the people at my college don\'t play games. They just do drugs all the time (Meth seems quite popular here). I was getting pretty close to this one chick, but I\'ve stopped talking to her because one day after school, she took me out to eat and afterwards she pulled to the side of the road and injected coke into her arm, then proceeded to drive on the other side of the road. She said it was cool like Fast and the Furious. I thought I was going to die.


Yikes. Thats insane. At my college, pot and alcohol are the two big ones. Every so often I hear about cocaine but that\'s only a small percentage. Its just pot and booze.

But yeah, can\'t wait to see Xmen 3. Gotta rent the first two.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 09:53:01 PM
I was fine with the first two movies except for Rogue. Rogue is supposed to be this hot country girl and they chose a...well...NOT hot country girl. I was so disappointed. They got Wolverine down pretty damn good. He even says "bub" from time to time.

Oh and David Hayter (Solid Snake) wrote the screenplay for both movies. I don\'t know if he\'s doing the third, but I\'m assuming he will.

Colossus makes a brief appearance in the second one, but he has no accent, which bugs me. He\'s supposed to be Russian. I\'m a stickler for little details and those kinds of things bother me. There\'s little annoyances like that all over the place. And Magneto, to me, just isn\'t bad ass enough.

Professor X is spot on though. I couldn\'t imagine any other actor than Patrick Stewart playing him.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Titan on May 25, 2006, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: Evi

Oh and David Hayter (Solid Snake) wrote the screenplay for both movies. I don\'t know if he\'s doing the third, but I\'m assuming he will.


Ah yes, I remember reading that. He has done a lot of stuff, mostly voices. He did a lot with the X-men series. I was also suprised he did writing for The Scorpion King. Wasn\'t a great movie but I did find it entertaining. Plus that asian chick I thought was hot as hell :shy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0371684/
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 10:00:29 PM
LOL! I forgot that David Hayter starred in this movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109965/

It\'s so corny, it\'s great. You gotta see it. It\'s so stupid.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg85.imageshack.us%2Fimg85%2F9345%2Fguyverdh16wg.jpg&hash=536c13304531f2ac7a053f72e544d58e8bcd1e28)

Yes...that is David Hayter behind that strange Power Ranger-esque costume.

David Hayter actually looks a lot like Snake. I think Snake was modeled after him, if I remember correctly.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: clips on May 25, 2006, 10:52:46 PM
i agree with pauly-o....the first x-men joint was aight, as with any first increment of any series, you have to properly introduce the characters which was why prt 1 was kinda slow to take off,...i probably won\'t see this,..not because i think it\'s gonna suck, but i just feel i can wait for it on dvd or rental...the first two were decent tho, and i expect this one to be decent as well,...as far as super hero flicks go,..the x-men series are one of the better movies...i\'m really worried about the superman flick tho,..i seen some mo pics of that, and the cat that\'s playin him just looks ghey to me....we\'ll see tho...
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 11:16:52 PM
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i\'m really worried about the superman flick tho,..i seen some mo pics of that, and the cat that\'s playin him just looks ghey to me....we\'ll see tho...
I didn\'t know a cat was playing Superman. I thought it was a human being.

:running:

:toilet:
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 25, 2006, 11:17:37 PM
Damn good film.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 11:19:37 PM
Did you see it? o.O
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Halberto on May 25, 2006, 11:30:33 PM
I saw X3 tonight. It was the best one I think.

There is something in there for those who loved that juggernaut cartoon.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 25, 2006, 11:34:13 PM
Exactly.
I hate the first two but love this one.. Only thing is, I\'m depressed now that Bryan Singer moved to Superman Returns, I fully expect to hate it.


And yeah, Evi, the fiance and I went to a midnight showin\' of it.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: THX on May 25, 2006, 11:34:35 PM
Midnight showing geeks.

Only a geek would be up this late and be on the internet.  I mean.... SH!T!!
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 25, 2006, 11:35:21 PM
I saw it last night.. Thought the ending sucked ass.

[spoiler warning]




But they\'ll just find some way (if they make a number 4) to bring back certain characters
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 11:43:14 PM
Quote from: Living-In-Clip
Exactly.
I hate the first two but love this one.. Only thing is, I\'m depressed now that Bryan Singer moved to Superman Returns, I fully expect to hate it.


And yeah, Evi, the fiance and I went to a midnight showin\' of it.
Cool. Seeing as you\'re a comic fan, it\'s good to hear it from you (er...read it). I\'m looking forward to seeing it.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 25, 2006, 11:48:31 PM
Like I said, I hated the first two, but enjoyed this one. It reminded me of the 90\'s cartoons and comics. Not a lot of "substance" in the storyline, but mass destruction from the Brotherhood, just what I wanted to see.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 11:49:23 PM
Are there some surprise mutants in it?
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 25, 2006, 11:52:27 PM
uh.
Uhm.
...Gambit...?
:(
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 25, 2006, 11:55:49 PM
Er...never mind. I\'ll just watch the movie.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: fre4d4 on May 26, 2006, 12:42:07 AM
Looking forwaed to this one
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Soul Reaver on May 26, 2006, 02:04:48 AM
Saw the midnight showing with a couple of friends.

It\'s ok. Worth a watch.

"I\'m the Juggernaut, Bitch"

heh
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 26, 2006, 03:17:29 PM
still no gambit... i expected more out of iceman



stupid expectations...
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: square_marker on May 26, 2006, 05:14:58 PM
i liked it.  juggernaut was sweet
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Unicron! on May 26, 2006, 06:41:58 PM
Just saw it a few hours ago. I must say I loved it!

Although the story wasnt exactly as I expected it was still great.

I had hopes we were going to see Apocalypse.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: clips on May 26, 2006, 08:57:07 PM
one of my son\'s friends came by and yapped off about the ending!..:mad:...just going by what he stated, i\'m sure there\'s going to be a prt 4....i didn\'t plan on going to see it anyway but i still didn\'t want to know the ending...
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Titan on May 26, 2006, 10:49:06 PM
Quote from: THX
Midnight showing geeks.

Only a geek would be up this late and be on the internet.  I mean.... SH!T!!


I typically don\'t sleep now until 4 am. I have work early tomorrow and still not sleepy.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Viper_Fujax on May 26, 2006, 10:51:25 PM
the action was good..storyline was alright..but i had some major gripes:



all in all..its a toss up between the first one and this one being the worst of the three. I loved the second one.

edit: i hope noone saw my post. I had the spoiler tags but the shits didnt work
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: cloud345 on May 27, 2006, 06:08:24 PM
OMG i just saw this and i am angry.....easily the worst movie i have seen in a long time, they completely ruined everything!

Im gonna list some of my points of anger and i dont know how to use spoiler tag so if u dont wanna know what happens dont read past this point.



[COLOR="Red"]SPOILERS BELOW DO NOT READ IF YOU DONT WANT TO[/COLOR]





1.) Opening scene, theyre in a simulator and theyre fighting a sentinal.....this is fine except.....there is no sentinals in the first two movies and none in this one so......where the hell did the sentinal come from?! THEY DONT EXIST YET!

2.) Cyclops.......I understand hes in superman and such.......but really, he had a 30 second role in this, and dies at the conclusion of these 30 seconds.

3.) Professor X dies? WTF! Then at the end comes back in the brain dead person? Its like theyre planning a sequal, but that would cost someone their life so I hope to god they dont make one.

4.) Pheonix......I have no idea why they even bothered trying to put the pheonix story line in because that was retarded......she kills everyone and joins up with magneto? Why? And then she is killed by none other than Wolverine! So now we got Jean, Cyclops dead and Prof X in a different body...how fun. Not to mention a bunch of badies that Jean disintegrated with her powers.

5.) The big fight scene on the island was pathetic. They have a huge mutant army in which over half of them just have the power to jump far.....after that they fight like normal people.

6.) They rushed everything.....they tried to compact the pheonix, mutant cure, brotherhood and mentioned the sentinals all into a 2 hour movie which concluded with everyone in the world being like "Yeah go mutants!"

7.) When Prof X just pops into that body.....wtf? Does he have powers still? Or is he just human? If the mutations are in the DNA....and hes in a new body, that must mean that he doesnt have the mutation any more....which makes me question why they even bothered showing that he is alive anyway.

Im sure there is more than upset me about this movie thta i cant think of right now. The only thing I liked about this movie was the ending because we found out that the cure wears off, which leave a slight possiblity of a decent sequal.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Unicron! on May 27, 2006, 08:05:54 PM
Personally I think what made this movie bad was the fact that it twisted the X-MEN world and story way too much. There is almost no relation to the comic. I liked it as a movie but it was a total disaster for dedicated X-MEN fans.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: shockwaves on May 27, 2006, 08:25:09 PM
It was a good movie, the best of the three, if you are able to get past how far it deviates from the comics.  On it\'s own, it was the best movie of the three.  It did kinda twist things a bit too much at times though.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: THX on May 27, 2006, 08:39:26 PM
My comments:

- The Juggernaut lost his powers when he went into that room with Leech (bald headed kid).  But Juggy\'s powers are magical, not mutant, so that\'s sure to tiff a few fans.

- I guess they intro\'d Angel in this one so we know who he is when Apocalypse turns him into Archangel in the next one, otherwise his whole role in this was forgettable.  Rumor I\'ve read is that Apocalypse is actually behind the "cure" to weaken earth before his arrival, so he can overtake it easily.  Feel free to correct me here.

- Phoenix\'s part was dumb as stated before.  I liked how they just kept her on the sidelines so you had no clue there was gonna be a big showdown with her tearin sh!t up.

- Juggernaut had a British accent and Colossus had an American one. ;>

- And speaking of which, no Juggernaut vs. Colossus!?!?  That would have been a ton of prop-breakin fun.

- When is Rogue gonna kill Ms. Marvel already and absorb her powers?  She\'s getting really boring with her personal problems.

Despite all these dumb nit-pickings, I still loved it.  The big fight at Jean Grey\'s old house could have been cooler and I wish there were more characters that were introduced but this\'ll probably be my favorite movie this year.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Viper_Fujax on May 27, 2006, 10:30:44 PM
guess since were not too concerned about spoilers.



the action was good..storyline was alright..but i had some major gripes:

1) why the fuck did everyone die so fast? cyclopse i didnt have a problem with since he was just going to be a puss the whole movie. but CHARLES?! that was dumb. 2) collosus was in it for about..2 seconds..and both times he was throwing wolverine around. 3) angel was pointless..they got the crowd in a bit of hatred towards his father for not being understanding, then he saves him..big woop. I wouldnt have cared if he died. 4) i always hate when wolverine meets up with magneto..magneto can own him. 5) iceman\'s gay and was only the REAL iceman for like half a second when he headbutted the guy
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 27, 2006, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: THX
My comments:

- The Juggernaut lost his powers when he went into that room with Leech (bald headed kid).  But Juggy\'s powers are magical, not mutant, so that\'s sure to tiff a few fans.

 I noticed that, jug uses a gem for his powers.



and still no gambit "shakes fist"
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Samwise on May 28, 2006, 01:08:26 AM
Critics seemed to rip it a new one. It\'s a rental for me (besides I\'m no sucka for superhero movies).

I\'ve heard good things about Superman: Returns though... and I like Bryan Singer a whole lot more than Brett Retner so...
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 28, 2006, 01:26:58 AM
If you\'re picking apart the movies because it\'s not totally congruous with the cartoons, you\'re a fool.

If you\'re picking apart the movie for simply being sub-par, then go for it. As it wasn\'t particularly good.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 28, 2006, 02:20:23 AM
Quote from: Bobs_Hardware
If you\'re picking apart the movies because it\'s not totally congruous with the cartoons, you\'re a fool.


I personally hate movies that are based off a series, have pretty much all the characters from the series, all the powers they have, then decide to change things for movie direction.  imo, if you base a movie of a comic / cartoon at least bother to stay true to that series. Otherwise you might as well just make a totally new film with unique characters.

They do it for most superhero movies.. why not xmen.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 28, 2006, 03:00:30 AM
Well, largely I meant this movie in particular due to the previous two also deviating. But there is no way they could have possibly condensed all the storyline down perfectly into any individual, or all three movies and still have the movies be digestable.

I have other major complaints with the movie, some have been voiced already in the thread. But overall it was somewhat lackluster. I wouldn\'t say bad, as overall, it was enjoyable. Just.. disappointing.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 28, 2006, 03:55:30 AM
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Personally I think what made this movie bad was the fact that it twisted the X-MEN world and story way too much. There is almost no relation to the comic. I liked it as a movie but it was a total disaster for dedicated X-MEN fans.

I\'m tired of people braggin\' up Bryan Singer\'s first two like they was remotely faithful to the source material. They wasn\'t. He butchered Rouge, he made Wolverine the central focus, he wimped Cyclops out, killed Sabertooth, watered down Mageneto and the list goes on and on. He wasn\'t anymore faithful to the source material than Ratner was.

I personally dread Bryan Singer\'s Superman Returns (will see openin\' day tho, as  a comic fan, I took vacation for it). I hated what he done with X-men and I dread his take on Superman. Ten bucks says Superman ends up being some whiney ass emo bitch.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 04:51:33 AM
Quote from: §ôµÏG®ïñD

and still no gambit "shakes fist"

That\'s because he sucks...mon ami.

And Jugg still has mutant powers. He\'s just practically unstoppable with his magic shit but still very storng without em.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: shockwaves on May 28, 2006, 05:28:11 AM
Wouldn\'t introducing Gambit have been a good idea if they\'re gonna be focusing on Apocalypse next?  What angle are they planning on taking with him?
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 28, 2006, 05:31:26 AM
He\'ll charge shit up and throw it at things while making cool witty comments in an accent. *thumbs up* Sounds good to me.

Let\'s hope they didn\'t use all their ace dialogue on Juggernaut *rolls eyes..
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 05:52:05 AM
Gambit was only decent in the animated series. In the comics he\'s always pretty forgettable so hooray for the decision to leave him out.

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrunx334p1356ck.jpg
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6249962

The Juggernaut owns him in every reality. =/
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 28, 2006, 06:00:14 AM
Quote from: Jumpman
That\'s because he sucks...mon ami.

And Jugg still has mutant powers. He\'s just practically unstoppable with his magic shit but still very storng without em.



you failed to see the point.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 06:15:23 AM
What point? That Gambit is a decent character? Because I\'ve established otherwise.

Ign did the 25 greatest X-Men of all time and Gambit\'s position is perfect.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/708/708826p1.html
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 28, 2006, 06:18:44 AM
i wasn\'t referring to gambit..

failed to see the point.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 06:29:02 AM
Wtf is your point then. Jug is the half brother to Xavier and after his gem was taking from him he still had powers. And if you\'re point was something else then I don\'t care, I\'m strictly talking about Gambit and Jug here. I even quoted the post.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 28, 2006, 07:05:04 AM
ohhh man Jumpy you just totally missed the point
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 07:16:45 AM
I\'m not even talking about the movie. :(

I\'m trying to get the word out on how much Gambit blows. I know Soulgrind is talking about movies being based off comic books and other random shit but I\'m sure he\'s wrong in any scenario.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: THX on May 28, 2006, 08:20:54 AM
Jumpman he still had powers because the energy of Cyttorak can be split between whoever wears the magical bands.  He just shared the full Juggernaut\'s power with that other guy who touched the ruby also.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/juggernaut.htm

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The Juggernaut once attempted to transform Black Tom Cassidy into a being like himself with the ruby of Cyttorek. The result was that both Marko and Cassidy were Juggernauts, but each had considerably less power than Marko had possessed when he was the sole Juggernaut. (Marko and Cassidy each claimed to have half Marko\'s previous power, but this is inaccurate, considering that the Juggernaut\'s previous power level was virtually immeasurable.) Marko finally regained his full power, and hurled the ruby into orbit so that no one else could ever use it.

Juggernaut himself said his powers aren\'t mutant but magical when Rogue tried to steal them.  Of course it didn\'t work and it sent Rogue into a brief state of madness.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 08:34:25 AM
But I forgot about Ulimate Juggernaut, whom the movie character\'s costume is based off(like Wolverine\'s and others).

In the Ultimate Marvel continuity, not much is known about Cain Marko. What is known is that he grew up in the same trailerpark as Rogue did and doesn\'t seem to be related to Xavier in any way. He refers to himself as trailertrash at some point, but also points out that because he grew up in a trailerpark people often underestimate his intelligence. This had led to a belief that he is actually smarter than his 616 counterpart. Ultimate Juggernaut seems to be a regular mutant with super strength, with no mystical background to his powers.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: THX on May 28, 2006, 08:45:52 AM
I read the wiki too :]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut_(comics)

That\'s a cool ass costume but it doesn\'t look like what was in the movie. ?_?
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 10:44:33 AM
The revealed six pack is there. Kind of the samish.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: QuDDus on May 28, 2006, 02:18:23 PM
I thought it had to be the best one yet. I hope that they do an xmen 4 they left so many things open. And if someone is pissed off because it does not follow the comics. No movie will ever follow a comic or novel. There is noway. They make these movies for the masses.

For what it was. It is was awesome and I stayed for the ended 95% of the people in theater left. Only reason I knew to stay is because I saw it on CNN.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 03:08:30 PM
Batman Begins had just the right amount of similarities and differences. Best comic book movie ever.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: cloud345 on May 28, 2006, 03:26:41 PM
Ya i just finished watching it and thought to myself how much more I liked it than the last X-men.

The first two were fine, i just didnt like this one.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 28, 2006, 03:35:28 PM
wow u completely contradicted yourself there...nice
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Blade on May 28, 2006, 05:20:00 PM
Saw it.

It was really awesome (at least as good as the other two) but there were parts of it that were a little disappointing.

For example, the core of the storyline (the "cure") seemed like a really stupid thing to fight over.

Oh, and arguably my 3 favorite characters died.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Unicron! on May 28, 2006, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: §ôµÏG®ïñD

and still no gambit "shakes fist"


WORD
That was one thing I was very dissapointed with since the first movie. I loved that guy. And wasnt it he who fancied Roque?
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Unicron! on May 28, 2006, 06:16:39 PM
Quote from: Living-In-Clip
I\'m tired of people braggin\' up Bryan Singer\'s first two like they was remotely faithful to the source material. They wasn\'t. He butchered Rouge, he made Wolverine the central focus, he wimped Cyclops out, killed Sabertooth, watered down Mageneto and the list goes on and on. He wasn\'t anymore faithful to the source material than Ratner was.

I personally dread Bryan Singer\'s Superman Returns (will see openin\' day tho, as  a comic fan, I took vacation for it). I hated what he done with X-men and I dread his take on Superman. Ten bucks says Superman ends up being some whiney ass emo bitch.


I didnt say the other two were more faithful. If you check my first post you ll see that I liked it
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Viper_Fujax on May 29, 2006, 12:10:21 AM
Was there something after the credits? Not sure how people have \'the next one will be about apocolypse\' and \'charles is in another body\' stuff.

Not sure what the reasoning was of leaving right after the movie ended, but i did.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: shockwaves on May 29, 2006, 01:30:37 AM
They showed something about Charles being in another body after the credits...the one that he talked to his class about earlier in the movie where the body and vital functions were in tact but the mind wasn\'t there.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 29, 2006, 01:41:29 AM
It was amazing that Charles even had the same voice, after his mind was transported over to another body.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Unicron! on May 29, 2006, 01:45:12 AM
Damn it! I didnt stay long enough to see all the ending credits. Do you think Cyclops will return as well somehow? Or even Jean? Didnt she play an important role against Apocalypse in the comic?
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on May 29, 2006, 03:37:58 AM
You don\'t see him die..  So i\'d say they\'ll just turn around and say she gave him sort term memory loss or some bs like that, so he never returned.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: QuDDus on May 29, 2006, 06:45:55 AM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
Was there something after the credits? Not sure how people have \'the next one will be about apocolypse\' and \'charles is in another body\' stuff.

Not sure what the reasoning was of leaving right after the movie ended, but i did.


Did Bryan Singer\'s write both xmen movies or did he just direct them? Because the first two xmen movies were nothing like the xmen marvel story. I mean they were a totally different spin. And I am not bothered by it. Because in order for the studio\'s to makes these movies they have to dumb down the stories and make them more appealing to the masses.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: QuDDus on May 29, 2006, 06:53:42 AM
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You don\'t see him die..  So i\'d say they\'ll just turn around and say she gave him sort term memory loss or some bs like that, so he never returned.


That is what I am thinking you never see him die. And I do believe that jean will return again. In the original story the phoenix does die but later it is revealed that the phoenix did not die. So I don\'t think jean is dead.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 29, 2006, 06:53:53 AM
You can\'t kill the Phoenix Force so Jean never really dies.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: QuDDus on May 29, 2006, 06:59:34 AM
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You can\'t kill the Phoenix Force so Jean never really dies.


That is exactly what I was trying to say. As I remember you could never kill the phoenix force. In the Xmen comic the phoenix was it\'s own force that took on the form and likeness of jean. In the cartoon Xmen the phoenix and jean were the same person. I enjoyed the cartoon version more than the comic version. Because in the comic it just got really too deep.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: clips on May 29, 2006, 01:05:53 PM
after reading all these spoliers from the movie,..i don\'t know what to believe,..i think the movies should stay true to comic,..sheeit how hard is it for the masses to understand that these are humans born with unique powers?..if they can\'t comprehend that simple fact they need to just and watch the typical generic action film and be happy...

as far as the deaths go,...even tho i didn\'t see the movie, but goin by the phoenix\'s powers alone, i feel they can be very flexible with it,..in some of the more recent comics it showed that the phoenix actually has the power over life and death,..as in being able to bring the dead back...even tho i hate when comics tend to take that cheap way out whenever a character dies, i feel that they have room here to pull that off,...that\'s just my theory tho...

i feel they can stay true to the comic with adding just the right amount of originality,.(of course this depends heavily on the director)...,one of the things that i didn\'t like about the movies in general was how they made rogue so young...she\'s supposed to be going on some emotional roller coaster with another mutant that hasn\'t been on the seen yet.....gambit...
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on May 29, 2006, 07:44:41 PM
I want to kill the director of this movie. I just got back from seeing this. It was entertaining, but the overall movie was a complete mess. It was great to see so many mutants though. I wish they would\'ve shown more of Colossus, as he is one of my favorites.

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one of the things that i didn\'t like about the movies in general was how they made rogue so young
...and ugly. She\'s supposed to be this gorgeous country girl.


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she\'s supposed to be going on some emotional roller coaster with another mutant that hasn\'t been on the seen yet.....gambit...
Gambit rocks. I have the comic with the first appearance of Gambit. It\'s pretty cool.


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sheeit how hard is it for the masses to understand that these are humans born with unique powers?..if they can\'t comprehend that simple fact they need to just and watch the typical generic action film and be happy...
I saw this one dumb ass review of the movie and the reviewer said "Where\'s the science in it?" IT\'S A F^CKING COMIC BOOK! Stupidity runs rampant among people.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 30, 2006, 03:01:00 AM
The Rogue character could very easily have been Jubilee instead.

Oh, and I\'m pro-Gambit. He has always been my favourite character.

If they bring back Cyclops, it\'s a copout. I already thought it was friggin\' stupid that they brought back Charles, too.

In fact, almost everything storyline related in this movie was dodgy.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: mjps21983 on May 30, 2006, 03:56:51 AM
When are you guys going to realize that the movies will never be true to the comics??? Have you not learned from the first 2 movies or any of the previous comic book movies??? Just fucking enjoy the movies for what it is and stop your bitching.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on May 30, 2006, 06:01:50 AM
yeah...bitches
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Ryu on May 30, 2006, 06:45:55 AM
I tried to enjoy it for what it was, but they just tried to cram far too much shit into 97 minutes of film.  With 30 more minutes, they could have improved this film tremendously.  The sad part is, if they decide to do a part 4, which many members of the original cast do not wish including Halle Berry, Patrick Stewart, and many other key characters, they\'re going to retcon everything they did in this film.  Cyclops will be back somehow and the door is already open for Charles to come back if you stuck around past the credits.  They already brought back Jean once - and it wasn\'t because of the Phoenix force, it was just her own crazy ass self according to the film - so bringing her back again won\'t be too much trouble.  It was a trainwreck because it was just too much shit in too little time.  

However, Magneto wtfpwned everything and everyone.  What a total badass.  Turn down mystique though?  That total hottie normal human or otherwise?  He deserved to get pimp slapped at the end. :P
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: clips on October 09, 2006, 05:52:52 AM
hmm...what can i say? i finally seen this and even tho key characters were killed, somehow it just seemed right,..i mean the phoenix force in the comics is no -joke,..i mean it really is a force that can change realities,..and showing the professor go up against it in the movie, truly shows what would actually happen,whereas in the comic he\'s one of the main characters, so you know that they are not going to kill him there, but in the movie it felt right and i wasn\'t really mad about it..

when they killed cyclops it kinda caught me off guard, and i wish they would\'ve fleshed out that scene a little better,....but they did a fantastic job of catching the fury of the phoenix,...great special effects in the grand finale there....i just hope they don\'t make another one, because this is the way to end the trilogy....great film, and i gotta give it up to the director for takin a chance at killing two of the main characters, and because it actually made sense in relation to the phoenix and that relationship as a whole between scott,jean and the professor, again, i really wasn\'t upset about it....
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Unicron! on October 09, 2006, 09:11:51 AM
If rumors about a 4 movie are true I wonder how they are going to continue the story after so may key characters died
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Eiksirf on October 09, 2006, 09:26:13 AM
It was all a dream.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on October 09, 2006, 10:41:40 AM
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hmm...what can i say? i finally seen this and even tho key characters were killed, somehow it just seemed right,..i mean the phoenix force in the comics is no -joke,..i mean it really is a force that can change realities,..and showing the professor go up against it in the movie, truly shows what would actually happen,whereas in the comic he\'s one of the main characters, so you know that they are not going to kill him there, but in the movie it felt right and i wasn\'t really mad about it..

when they killed cyclops it kinda caught me off guard, and i wish they would\'ve fleshed out that scene a little better,....but they did a fantastic job of catching the fury of the phoenix,...great special effects in the grand finale there....i just hope they don\'t make another one, because this is the way to end the trilogy....great film, and i gotta give it up to the director for takin a chance at killing two of the main characters, and because it actually made sense in relation to the phoenix and that relationship as a whole between scott,jean and the professor, again, i really wasn\'t upset about it....
Have you even read the comics?
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Paul2 on October 09, 2006, 11:26:33 AM
I think this movie wasn\'t as good as the previous 2.  They introduce too many characters, and and the story isn\'t as good compare to previous 2.  Some of the actions are cool, but also felt a little choppy.  There are also more obvious flaws in this movie too...like Mystique, when she morph into a little girl, shouldn\'t her hands be smaller too?  that mean, she can slips her hand off the handcuffs and escape easily...i also agree the cyclop scene should be more flesh out, and so was how phoenix was brought back to life...
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on October 09, 2006, 03:22:41 PM
Magneto wasn\'t powerful enough in the movies (as odd as that sounds to someone who doesn\'t read the comics).

He should of been able to punch out Colossus, make invincible force fields, and do all other kind of crazy shit. He shouldn\'t of had limits, hell the comic book version actually killed the Phoenix/Jean Grey.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: clips on October 09, 2006, 04:07:30 PM
Quote from: Evi
Have you even read the comics?


i\'ve very familiar with the book,...and the phoenix is a very powerful force,...the director imo actually displayed what would happen if anybody actually went up against her,....prof-x may be the most powerful telepath, but he\'s no match for the phoenix,...like i stated earlier in the comics there\'s always something that happens to save major characters from being killed,..this just showed what would actually happen.

Maybe they didn\'t get some things right, like the relationship between juggernaught & prof-x, (maybe it would\'ve taken up too much time or whatever)...but i think the miscues of the film were minor,...i wish it could\'ve been longer, but i enjoyed it,...i wish the fight scenes would\'ve lasted a bit longer as well...*juggernaut throwing wolvie up into the ceiling then him crashing down on the other side was pretty slick*.....
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: THX on October 10, 2006, 07:07:17 AM
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It was all a dream.

I used to read Word up magazine
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on October 10, 2006, 10:35:47 AM
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i\'ve very familiar with the book,...and the phoenix is a very powerful force,...the director imo actually displayed what would happen if anybody actually went up against her,....prof-x may be the most powerful telepath, but he\'s no match for the phoenix,...like i stated earlier in the comics there\'s always something that happens to save major characters from being killed,..this just showed what would actually happen.
So basically, you haven\'t read the comics.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on October 10, 2006, 01:34:34 PM
hav u?
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: clips on October 10, 2006, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: Evi
So basically, you haven\'t read the comics.


aight..evi...now you\'re just bein a bit of an ass...say what you mean and stop talking in riddles...i know what happened in the comics..i know magneto killed jean grey,...it seems the point you\'re tryin to make is that this movie didn\'t soley go by what was in the comics,..but you\'re talkin\' in riddles so i don\'t have a clue on what the f**k you\'re tryin to say...
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on October 10, 2006, 07:43:55 PM
Wow...calm the fuck down. I\'m just giving you a hard time. The third movie strayed far away from the comics. It had some entertaining action, but the plot annoyed the fuck out of me.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Samwise on October 10, 2006, 11:38:49 PM
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aight..evi...now you\'re just bein a bit of an ass...say what you mean and stop talking in riddles...i know what happened in the comics..i know magneto killed jean grey,...it seems the point you\'re tryin to make is that this movie didn\'t soley go by what was in the comics,..but you\'re talkin\' in riddles so i don\'t have a clue on what the f**k you\'re tryin to say...

He just likes being an ass, that\'s all. Ignore his babble.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Jumpman on October 11, 2006, 01:47:57 AM
Read Astonishing X-Men and tell me it stayed away from the comics BITCH.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: clips on October 11, 2006, 01:22:26 PM
Quote from: Evi
Wow...calm the fuck down. I\'m just giving you a hard time. The third movie strayed far away from the comics. It had some entertaining action, but the plot annoyed the fuck out of me.


see how easy that was?....oh and your sarcasm leaves alot to be desired...take some notes from mm & souly.....jumpy has his moments as well...
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: Evi on October 11, 2006, 06:13:09 PM
No I was actually trying to be a dick. Listen to Sammy.
Title: X-Men 3
Post by: clips on October 11, 2006, 09:40:38 PM
Quote from: Evi
No I was actually trying to be a dick. Listen to Sammy.



oh ok...gotcha....:laughing: