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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: FatalXception on July 21, 2006, 11:19:21 PM
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link (http://news.gaminghorizon.com/media2/1153347720.4569.html)
The Gist of the Link:
Sources now say that the PS3 is under production, with 4 million units expected in the first consignment. Perhaps Sony doesn\'t want to over-limit the supply at launch (5 million 360s shipped to date), but in any event, it\'s 4 million to start, and 200k per month thereafter.
And further Q/A goodness for confirmation:
Q4. What is the initial launch quantity for PS3 ?
A4. 2 million units will be shipped worldwide at the launch timing (for the first 3 weeks), cumulative 4 million units by the end of December and cumulative 6 million by the end of March 2007 (we do not disclose the breakdown by region).
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awesome..the sooner its out..the sooner the price drop :D
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That\'s double what they originally projected.
Rumor has it Wii has been rolling since earlier in the summer as well.
It\'s gonna be a fun holiday season.
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http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/madden07/screenindex.html
looking at these screenshots of madden on the wii..it really looks like shit,lol. Its like ps2 player models, with better turf.
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^^^^
And this has anything to do with the PS3 going gold how?
Back on topic...Hopefully there isn\'t a massive shortage ala PS2/Xbox360 come christmas. At least one of my friends better pick one up so I can see how it looks.
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i was responding to eik, since hes a nintendo fanboy and brought it into here..just poking
go smoke a joint and losen up er something
[insert sentence that 50,000 people have said here]
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those better not be real screenshots.
i mean, grapics certainly aren\'t everything, but
you even get to look like a dumbass while you play in 1994 visuals.
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Yes, Wii cannot make graphics as powerful as PS3 or Xbox 360. 2004 called, they want their news back. ;]
Regardless, the control methods shown in those pics have me slightly interested in the game as opposed to not-at-all interested in a PS3 version. To each his own.
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Why cant I have both?
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Your family\'s poor, Kenny.
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they should just ditch the Wii and change the controller to work with the NGC.
i mean why sell something thats just like the former product but 5% differe....wait, this is nintendo.
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Your family\'s poor, Kenny.
Kenny isnt the only one with a family.
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Who will buy PS3 at launch !? I\'m pretty sure I won\'t...
For me, PS3 will go Gold when the PS3 games I actually want are in store ; and they\'re certainly no launchgames.
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you even get to look like a dumbass while you play in 1994 visuals.
If you are going to try and insult, do it right. Don\'t pull stuff out of your ass, like this.
As for Madden on the Wii - I couldn\'t care less. None of the next generation football titles from EA have delivered. Infact, they have all been stripped down compared to the previous generations.
Back on topic, who cares? It\'s in production - whoopie.
Same applies to the Wii. Announce some launch games, then maybe I\'ll care.
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Who will buy PS3 at launch !? I\'m pretty sure I won\'t...
For me, PS3 will go Gold when the PS3 games I actually want are in store ; and they\'re certainly no launchgames.
What ar the launchgames btw? I have no idea.
Are Warhawk and Motorstorm included as launch titles?
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No one has an idea of the launch games, I don\'t think..
Kind of like price tag and launch date for the Wii. No one really knows for sure.
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If you are going to try and insult, do it right. Don\'t pull stuff out of your ass, like this.
Hey, just because you think all the crap that comes out of your ass is serious business, doesn\'t mean everyone else should feel the same way. Since you have a point, I\'ll fixx mm\'s quote for you-
"you even get to look like a dumbass while you play in 1999 visuals"
Not quite as funny but still good for a laugh
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I\'ll be shocked if they ship anywhere near 4 million by December
and for Uni-
Confirmed PS3 launch games as of now. *subject to constantly change*
17 Games:
Resistance
Madden
NBA Live
Need for Speed
Tiger Woods
Genji2
Untold Legends
COD3
Tony Hawk
Marvel game
Stranglehold
Fatal Inertia
NHL 2K7
Full Auto2
Ridge Racer7
Sonic
Rainbow6
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nice list.
of course LIC won\'t find a single redeeming title.
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Some of those games are unknown to me, but PS3\'s lineup is making the PS2\'s launch look like a million bucks, no?
If I were going shopping for a PS3, I wonder what I\'d buy. Perhaps Need for Speed... Then I\'d find out about the interesting sounding titles - Resistance, Genji 2, Stranglehold and Fatal Inertia - and buy whichever one looked promising but wasn\'t a first person shooter. ... And if Tiger Woods games have been good before, I bet a PS3 version would be pretty to look at?
Any early PS3 adopters here? What will you buy?
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nice list.
Yes, it\'s a nice, nice list....
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only rentable games on the list..except madden which id buy. nhl 07 looks awesome, not sure about 2k7 (2k6 was as generic as it gets).
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when compared to Wii\'s launch list?
random 1st party title
******* mario ******
****** ****** mario
suck ass 3rd party title
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Have they announced any games for the ps3 launch? I am starting to get back into gaming. I want the ps3 but the 360 is looking real nice at a much cheaper price.
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Marvel Ultimate Alliance on launch day will make THX very happy :D :D :D
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Any early PS3 adopters here? What will you buy?
Im really debating it actually..the price basically for MGS, a series i never got into, but i doubt the controls will be anything like the ps2 versions. Sports games are the main thing for me and consoles, and theyre all on both consoles (360 of course..not the wii :D). God of War 3 would be awesome on ps3, but that probably wont be out for a long time, so even if i get a 360, by the time god of war 3 is a collectable and is like 20 bucks, the ps3 will be cheaper. still, no true incentive to fork out the extra money for me.
Definitly not doing anything hastly. If i get a 360 it will be after the ps3 is released.
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when compared to Wii\'s launch list?
random 1st party title
******* mario ******
****** ****** mario
suck ass 3rd party title
Mario isn\'t a launch title. Get your facts straight before you start this nonsense.
As for the list, all rentals except for the Marvel title. If it is Ultimate Alliance, sign me up.
Hey, just because you think all the crap that comes out of your ass is serious business, doesn\'t mean everyone else should feel the same way. Since you have a point, I\'ll fixx mm\'s quote for you-
Get off MM\'s nutsack. I merely pointed out that the visuals are better than 1994.
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I love new console season.
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I use to, but every launch since the Dreamcast has sucked.
:(
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except for the rockin\' PS2 launch, there were so many great titles to play.
and the xbox launch wasn\'t so bad once you got over the "holy fuck, this thing is huge" phase.
and when hasn\'t nintendo launched a console with only 2-3 titles (one of them being a ***** mario game?)
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Im really debating it actually..the price basically for MGS, a series i never got into, but i doubt the controls will be anything like the ps2 versions.
Try MGS3 Subsistence ; it\'s the first MGS game with a camera system alike Splinter Cell ; MGS4 is pretty much confirmed to continue that control scheme as well. :thumb:
About that list ; looks pretty decent. Resistance, Stranglehold (the John Woo action game), Fatal Inertia and add MotorStorm ; all new IP games (heyhey, non-sequels)
Personally i would hold out buying PS3 a little longer.
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Some of those games are unknown to me, but PS3\'s lineup is making the PS2\'s launch look like a million bucks, no?
If I were going shopping for a PS3, I wonder what I\'d buy. Perhaps Need for Speed... Then I\'d find out about the interesting sounding titles - Resistance, Genji 2, Stranglehold and Fatal Inertia - and buy whichever one looked promising but wasn\'t a first person shooter. ... And if Tiger Woods games have been good before, I bet a PS3 version would be pretty to look at?
Any early PS3 adopters here? What will you buy?
Ahm...that sounds better than the PS2 launch by a huge difference actually and there are also more games to be announced for launch. We are still 4 months away from launch, and games like Motorstorm and Warhawk will probably appear shortly after.
So yeah sounds good to me. But not mindblowing. Just good
Resistance
Genji2
Fatal Inertia
Sonic
Rainbow6
These are the games that interest m personally from that list and that list might increase as we near the launch. But lots more will be interested for games like COD3, RR7, Madden , Need For Speed, etc.
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except for the rockin\' PS2 launch, there were so many great titles to play.
and the xbox launch wasn\'t so bad once you got over the "holy fuck, this thing is huge" phase.
and when hasn\'t nintendo launched a console with only 2-3 titles (one of them being a ***** mario game?)
Wrong on every single account. The PS2 launch was far from rockin\', the Xbox launch bit the big one as did the Cube launch.
For the record, the Cube launched without a Mario game. It had Luigi\'s Mansion.
;)
And Nintendo has confirmed that Mario is not a launch title. Instead, Metroid and Zelda are.
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and when hasn\'t nintendo launched a console with only 2-3 titles (one of them being a ***** mario game?)
2001.
And if the stars stood for shitty, the answer would be they have never launched a console with 2-3 titles (one of them being a ****** mario game).
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I\'m sure MM will consider Luigi\'s Mansion a Mario game, despite the fact they really have nothing in common, other than Luigi has appeared in Mario games. But that is like bunching every game Wario ever appeared in as a Mario game.
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If that\'s the case, I will consider mm\'s mom.
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hey, she\'s pretty hot for her age (and single too!)
now Eik, as far as i remember, the N64 launched with Mario 64 and Pilotwings 64. thats a. 2 games and b. a mario title. perhaps i\'m remembering a different N64 launch?
luigi\'s mansion is unarguably a mario series title. come on now.
especially since it is a platformer, but if you have to split hairs over it to make a point.....
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My answer was cool. Gamecube launched in 2001 with a bunch of games. I bought like seven that day.
And because Mario 64 was not shitty, the 1996 N64 launch doesn\'t qualify either. (Unless that\'s not what ****** stood for.)
Also, Luigi\'s Mansion had you running from room to room vacuuming up ghosts. If this is a Mario title to you, then I suggest you go back and play an actual Mario title. In fact, make it New Super Mario Bros. for the DS. That\'s a lot of fun. :)
Just don\'t let the cool kids see you playing or they might beat you up and take your lunch money.
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lol, Eik. just admit i was right about the N64 launch (and nintendo launches in general). it will only sting a little.
****** is a variable. as in insert random word here like "super", "golf", "kart", "RPG" or even "galaxy". like you wouldn\'t know it belonged in the mario franchise if \'mario\' wasn\'t in the title...like "luigi\'s mansion".
and i\'m not playing "new super deluxe mario returns (again)" on the DS, regardless of who might see me. i already played it a long time ago.
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The N64 launch was damn good. It had two titles, but both was triple A titles. Infact, Mario 64 is still considered a revolutionary game. Get over it. It took years before any other 3D platform game caught up with it. Quality not quanity. That is what the N64 launch went with. I would rather have two solid titles, as opposed to ten average or less than average titles.
And Luigi\'s Mansion was not a Mario title. You trying to say it was is nothing but you grasping at straws to make a valid argument. It is in no shape or form a Mario title.
With all that said, the Cube launch sucked, just like the PS2 and Xbox launch sucked.
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you missed my point, as usual LIC.
i\'ll wait for Eik\'s response, thanks for trying tho.
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you missed my point, as usual LIC.
i\'ll wait for Eik\'s response, thanks for trying tho.
You had no point. It really is that simple.
And while we are at it..
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and i\'m not playing "new super deluxe mario returns (again)" on the DS, regardless of who might see me. i already played it a long time ago."
You may as well "insert title" in that sentence. Because that is the basis of every sequel. Yes, even the ones who get excited about and praise on the PS2 / PS3. It does not change the fact that the New Super Mario Bro\'s is a damn fine title.
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Haha yea I don\'t know the point either. But your post makes a lot of sense anyway, mm.
There are a boatload of Mario spin-offs. It bothers me. The platforming genre is under exposed lately which is great and really does keep NSMB from feeling like a been-there-done-that game.
But the over exposure of Mario and especially the Mario Party franchise got really out of hand with the Cube. I hope they seriously scale back for Wii. They started to tie-in the Wave Race and Excite Bike characters and the 1080 Snowboarding characters, too. I\'d much prefer to see something like that instead of Mario *insert sport* ad nauseum.
As for Nintendo launches historically, I think Cube\'s launch was average both with quantity and quality of games. N64 was average with 2 games making up the first like, month, but they were an awesome couple of games, especially Mario 64. I know you have a soft spot for SM64. :)
Before that, I\'m afraid I was too poor to enjoy the SNES launch so I don\'t remember it. SMW, I suppose? And I was 3 when the NES came out, so I missed that, too. Since launches are kind of on-topic, shed some light on those?
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when compared to Wii\'s launch list?
random 1st party title
******* mario ******
****** ****** mario
suck ass 3rd party title
:lmao:
i wouldn\'t laugh if it wasn\'t going to be true
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To bad it isn\'t true. Neither the Cube or N64 launched with any off-shoots of Mario, infact, only the N64 launched with a Mario title. This is just more of MM pulling random stuff out of his ass and trying to pass it off as fact. So, go ahead and laugh, but don\'t try and pass something off as fact, when everyone with alittle common sense knows it simply isn\'t true. You can try and distort the truth all you want, but at the end of the day, nothing changes.
Should Nintendo calm down with throwing Mario in everything? Yeah, most certainly. Does that have anything to do with the topic at hand? Not in the least.
As it stands, the Wii will be the second Nintendo system to launch without a Mario title (not counting handhelds). The Cube launched with Lugi\'s Mansion and the Wii will launch with Metroid and Zelda. Not a single Mario title.\'
And P.S ....
What does it matter if the Wii did launch with a Mario title? Almost every single Mario title has been high quality and highly acclaimed. What is so bad with Nintendo making another and giving the fans what they want? You act like just because Mario is a launch title the whole launch is not worth havin\', when that\'s simply not the case. If anything, a solid Mario title would make the launch more appealing to the casual gamers. This kind of logic is stupid..
"Mario ...at launch..Wii sucks!"
It\'s like saying, "yet another FPS shooter on the PS3 launch?...PS3 sucks".
Stupid.
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Wii is shaping up to have a nice launch, if you buy into the concept of Wii.
Excitetruck and Wii Sports are not much to look at and are so simple to play, but I want them the most.
There\'s Metroid and Zelda to fill the franchise gap.
Filling the crappy third party gap... ;) Sonic Wild Fire and Red Steel were both at the promising stage in May.
And I\'d even toss the graphically underwhelming but still tempting, Madden into the promising pile.
There\'s no confirmed launch lineup yet, though. So these may or may not be part of it. I think there\'s going to be a Dragon Quest game too, but I forget if that\'s supposed to be launch or not.
We\'ll see.
I\'ll be spending some cash either way. :)
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Red Steel was in no way promising, let\'s not kid ourselves here.
With that said, sign me up on the Zelda part. I\'ll also pick up Sonic. My main hopes is that the virtual console and internet part is working from day one. Gonna have to pass on Metroid as I am still pissed about the whole FPS conversion..Yeah, I know, I\'m livin\' in the past.
;)
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Actually, I thought the gun play, especially the slow motion aiming followed by real-time shooting was looking good. And the rumor has it that the developers have decided to try to more closely mimick actual controller movement when it comes to swordplay. It needs work, but I\'d say it\'s promising.
Sonic I like because it finally harkens back to the series\' roots. Put him on rails and let him run. The promising part comes from the fact that there\'s a lot of pop-up and still places where the action slowed to a crawl. I didn\'t like that. I also hope there are high-speed, end-level boss battles. Hit all the right nails and they\'ll hammer home a winner with Wild Fire. Graphics aside, I\'m way more psyched for this than the 3D adventure coming to the other consoles. Since the first Sonic Adventure, those games have been way off mark.
-Dan
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The original PS2 launch list : http://ps2.ign.com/articles/080/080661p1.html (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/080/080661p1.html)
Resistance
Madden
NBA Live
Need for Speed
Tiger Woods
Genji2
Untold Legends
COD3
Tony Hawk
Marvel game
Stranglehold
Fatal Inertia
NHL 2K7
Full Auto2
Ridge Racer7
Sonic
Rainbow6
WarHawk and Motorstorm were gonna make it as well .. i think...
PS3\'s launchgames might be relatively better than PS2\'s launch games. Of course, XB360 is gonna have a very strong line up this holiday season.
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Out of those, I bought...
Tekken Tag Tournament (Namco, fighting)
TimeSplitters (Eidos, First-Person Shooter)
Unreal Tournament (Infogrames, First-Person Shooter)
SSX (EA, Sports)
Street Fighter EX3 (Capcom, Fighting)
Summoner (THQ, RPG)
Ridge Racer V (Namco, Racing)
Out of those, I enjoyed....
None. I remember being hyped up for the launch, bought all my games and got home, tried them out, went to bed pissed off. I even made a thread on this board on how the PS2 launch sucked and people said I was lying and didn\'t own one.
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Whats Wii\'s launch line up btw?
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consoles didn\'t really have launches back then, Eik.
there was no internet to build hype. there was no gaming community.
you walked into toys R us, or "childens palace" in my time, and drooled over a "coming soon" sign. there were no "video game" isles to speak of.
everything was in glass cases, and they only had a few copies of anything.
you had no clue what was coming out, you had to go into the stores to see what games were out. i remember when 50$ was all the money in the world, and i had to save up for weeks to buy some shitty sega master system game.
hell, i was buying atari carts for 2$ apiece from Hills dept store back in the early 80\'s after the crash.
fuck, i\'m old.
and this is why the console industry irritates me, and i mock it (and anyone who buys into it) at every chance i get.
even LIC can see the rediculousness of it all occasionally.
i really feel sorry you didn\'t like any of the PS2 launch titles, you missed out.
and PC > consoles, always.
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I didn\'t miss out on anything.
With that said, the console war thing in general is stupid.. Oh no, I have to support company A so that company B fails.
Idiotic.
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It\'s kind of like, gamers pick a company like sports fans pick a favorite team. And a new console war is like the play offs or something.
Is it dumb? Maybe, but it\'s basically people just rooting for their favorite.
It\'d be like...
Pepsi stole everything from Coke! We should flip their cans over and inflict MASSIVE DAMAGE!!!
OK, maybe it is dumb. ;]
Heh, mm, I finally bought a bunch of cheapo Atari games too, but I did it probably 15-20 years after you did. :)
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consoles didn\'t really have launches back then, Eik.
there was no internet to build hype. there was no gaming community.
you walked into toys R us, or "childens palace" in my time, and drooled over a "coming soon" sign. there were no "video game" isles to speak of.
everything was in glass cases, and they only had a few copies of anything.
you had no clue what was coming out, you had to go into the stores to see what games were out. i remember when 50$ was all the money in the world, and i had to save up for weeks to buy some shitty sega master system game.
hell, i was buying atari carts for 2$ apiece from Hills dept store back in the early 80\'s after the crash.
fuck, i\'m old.
and this is why the console industry irritates me, and i mock it (and anyone who buys into it) at every chance i get.
even LIC can see the rediculousness of it all occasionally.
i really feel sorry you didn\'t like any of the PS2 launch titles, you missed out.
and PC > consoles, always.
What makes handheld and PC gaming(appart from not having specific PC brands that play different games) any different?
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What makes handheld and PC gaming(appart from not having specific PC brands that play different games) any different?
If you have to ask that question, then you don\'t deserve the air you breathe, because you are obviously wasting it.
:thumb:
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for once uni, i\'m speechless...
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Quoting Mark Rein from Epic Games :
Comparing the situation for developers last year ahead of the launch of 360, Rein believes Sony\'s efforts to get final dev kits out to studios compares favourably with those of its bitter rival.
"Developers were just getting final PS3 hardware [around E3], which is a long time before ship," Rein told Eurogamer TV in an exclusive interview now showing. "Developers did not have finished Xbox 360 hardware last year at E3. So Sony\'s actually maybe in a better place vis-a-vis Microsoft in relation to launch."
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"I think Sony\'s in a good spot with the PlayStation 3," he added. "I know we\'re getting some great results with it back at our house, so I would expect other developers will be as well."
Linkage :
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66314 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=66314)
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For once, I agree with MM.
Sad day on these forums.
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If you have to ask that question, then you don\'t deserve the air you breathe, because you are obviously wasting it.
:thumb:
The question wasnt directed to you
for once uni, i\'m speechless...
You mean that PC gamers/gaming unlike Console gamers/gaming are exactly the same as they were back "in your age"?
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You\'re totally making it difficult to have a coherent arguement at this point, heh. What did you just say?
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Ok. Does he believe today\'s PC gaming has any relation to the console gaming 15 years ago?
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You mean that PC gamers/gaming unlike Console gamers/gaming are exactly the same as they were back "in your age"?
it\'s like he\'s trying to talk to me, i know it
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:rolleyes:
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i\'ll take "please rephrase the fucking sentence" for 300$, alex
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I think for 600$ would have been a little more fitting.
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i\'ll take "please rephrase the fucking sentence" for 300$, alex
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Haha, I loled.
First time in a long time I laughed out loud at something on the internet. Excellent use of curse words.
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That was fucking classic.
And I still have no clue what Uni is trying to say.
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I love new console season.
Me 2. Being a fanboy is a full time job right now, how I\'ve missed these days. ;)
The upcoming months should be fun, both Wii and the PS3 are getting ready for launch. Too bad Nintendo wont be at this years TGS, would have been fun to see the progress since E3. Sony better improve from the E3 showing also.
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i\'ll take "please rephrase the fucking sentence" for 300$, alex
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too funny...:laughing:...mm at his best..:laughing:
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Funny but like always avoiding to discuss with anyone and not just with me
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if you were coherant, i would love to discuss whatever it is your were trying to say.
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Funny but like always avoiding to discuss with anyone and not just with me
Normally, I would agree with this, but the fact that NONE of us have a clue on what you\'re trying to say kinda kills that fact.
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uhh… What are fly balls to left field?
The disparity between PC and console gaming has gone from night and day, shrinking to next to nothing over the last 15 years. I think after the dust settles from this coming console generation it will become obvious to just about everyone the benefits to be gained by having a powerful fixed platform to develop games on will far outweigh the negligible increases to be had from the numerous PC upgrades we’ll see over, say, the next 5 to 7 years. At this point in time it’s all about increased costs vs. diminishing returns due to the dead end of physical limitations the silicon chip industry is starting to run straight up against.
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^ I would disagree. Technically, pcgaming and console gaming are getting closer together. However, the genre gap is there to stay. I would even dare to say it is increasing, polarizing more and more.
PC gaming : mouse + keyboard ; first person shooters & RTS
Console gaming : mostly dual analogue stick + motion sensing (wii mote) ; 3rd person action & arcade games and alot more oddball genres you\'d never find on the pc.
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Normally, I would agree with this, but the fact that NONE of us have a clue on what you\'re trying to say kinda kills that fact.
Thats ok. I am used to it in this forum.
In other forums nobody has comprehension problems with my posts. But I can live with that. I always show sympathy and understanding.
*pats LIC*
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are you going to rephrase the original sentence or not?
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^^ Well, MM shares his thoughts on console launches by illustrating how different it was, back in the oldschool days.
Then you quoted him and you asked why & how HANDHELD gaming and PC gaming differ from eachother....
I\'m sorry but, within context of the convo, your question did lack some coherence.
Something completely else :
Red Steel does look to shape up promising. Read the developer blog here : http://blogs.ign.com/red-steel (http://blogs.ign.com/red-steel)
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^^ Well, MM shares his thoughts on console launches by illustrating how different it was, back in the oldschool days.
Then you quoted him and you asked why & how HANDHELD gaming and PC gaming differ from eachother....
I\'m sorry but, within context of the convo, your question did lack some coherence.
Something completely else :
Red Steel does look to shape up promising. Read the developer blog here : http://blogs.ign.com/red-steel (http://blogs.ign.com/red-steel)
No I ment how todays PC and/or handheld gaming are any different to todays console gaming in terms of how they have evolved from the past.
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Yeah ok, but can you understand why your sentence wasn\'t clear to any of us ?
You could have simply replied : "how did the evolution of pc gaming and the evolution of handheld gaming differ from the evolution of console gaming ?"
Aside from rephrasing, I think the question is also missing the point a bit, since we were solely discussing the console formats and their respective launches.
( ..and i don\'t want to be some grammar nazi, but it\'s \'meant\' instead of \'ment\'. )
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^ I would disagree. Technically, pcgaming and console gaming are getting closer together. However, the genre gap is there to stay. I would even dare to say it is increasing, polarizing more and more.
PC gaming : mouse + keyboard ; first person shooters & RTS
Console gaming : mostly dual analogue stick + motion sensing (wii mote) ; 3rd person action & arcade games and alot more oddball genres you\'d never find on the pc.
Don’t you think, with a hdd and it’s usb ports PS3 is just an OS away from eliminating that genre gap entirely?
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^ In a way... Sony\'s PS3 strategy is indeed about the PS3 as media centre.
I think if it were up to Sony, the PC would only act as hub and business/work platform. Looking at their strategy from that angle one might state they are trying to overlap Window\'s Media Center with PS3.
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Yeah ok, but can you understand why your sentence wasn\'t clear to any of us ?
You could have simply replied : "how did the evolution of pc gaming and the evolution of handheld gaming differ from the evolution of console gaming ?"
Aside from rephrasing, I think the question is also missing the point a bit, since we were solely discussing the console formats and their respective launches.
( ..and i don\'t want to be some grammar nazi, but it\'s \'meant\' instead of \'ment\'. )
Yeah I understand. I wanted to be as brief as possible so it ended up kind of ambiguous. But a little thought on it would have given a clue.
Anyways, the reason I posted this, is because mm rants about console gaming and comparatively to PC he prefers it (PC gaming that is) as if it doesnt suffer from similar changes, so I see no point in his post if its just an excuse to rant. And you know how much mm loves to rant. Credit should go where it is due
Besides, gaming industry has grown thus changed in these respects inevitably. I dont think any of us would prefer going back in time to play Atari games forever just because there was no internet, gaming community, and could get games for $2 when the small gaming industry of that time crashed(that was a good thing?). And to tell the truth I love the fact that I can play games like ZOE2, or DMC which were impossible 20 years ago despite the changes.
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^ In a way... Sony\'s PS3 strategy is indeed about the PS3 as media centre.
I think if it were up to Sony, the PC would only act as hub and business/work platform. Looking at their strategy from that angle one might state they are trying to overlap Window\'s Media Center with PS3.
Yes and if they succeed there the business/work platform is right around the corner. It reminds me again of Ken Kuitigari\'s visionary speech from about five years ago where one of the things he pointed out was is it makes better business sense to supply chips to console makers rather than being a console manufacturer, or words to that effect.
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poor 360
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg134.imageshack.us%2Fimg134%2F2810%2F2277ps3wc4.jpg&hash=ea25a9e9d4bb9bc83c91d0179c4bb76952a699b6)
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Holy shit, is that true?
That\'s Xbox-controller-big.
If that\'s too wide it won\'t fit in my equipment cabinet, heh. I think I have a lot of space next to the 360, though.
S\'pose the new-fangled Blu Ray drive takes up the space?
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The pic was posted on joystiq, however, it\'s not a real PS3 but a fan-made model based on best available info. As long as it\'s not wider than a standard stereo component (amp/cd/dvd) and fits in a standard cabinet, I\'m fine with it, since it has the POWER SUPPLY (read brick the size of missing space) built in.
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I cannot understand the PSU decision. Engineering logic ( which i don\'t even have much ) states the opposite of putting the PSU in the casing.
Not a smart move, Sony...
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From a heat/energy standpoint, it makes sense to keep the PSU outside of the box, away from everything. From a design/sales standpoint.... well, look at the backlash that was caused by the 360 brick, apparantly it pisses people off to have powersupplies around on the floor behind their AV cabinets.
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From a heat/energy standpoint, it makes sense to keep the PSU outside of the box, away from everything. From a design/sales standpoint.... well, look at the backlash that was caused by the 360 brick, apparantly it pisses people off to have powersupplies around on the floor behind their AV cabinets.
"From a heat/energy standpoint" = core primary problem @ a fixated state
"it pisses people off to have powersupplies" = secondary \'problem\'
I wonder how quickly, PSthree will see day of light.
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I remember hearing reports that it was initially having heat issues, but the massive amount of ventilation added to it was able to overcome. We\'ll see, there\'s nothing more irritating than heat issues causing crashes and problems. Again, a lesson learned from the Xbox.
As long as they made sure that form followed function, and there really are no issues with heat, then it\'s nice to have the PS built in, although I never really cared too much that the PS was separate on 360, it\'s something I could live with, but many others didn\'t like.
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like you said, many people like me don\'t like the idea of external power supply. I prefer internal power supply anyday. I remember when XBOX360 first release, some users witnessed system crashed and the external power supply overheat. (Not saying because its external that its overheat, its just that its new) i remember reading an article in this forum about someone managed to fix the overheat issue by tying the external power supply up in mid-air with strings to fix the game crashes and stuff...
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I forgot about the power brick. I have that on another shelf, heh. It\'s a monstrosity, but fit hidden away behind my PStwo or something or other.
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I cannot understand the PSU decision. Engineering logic ( which i don\'t even have much ) states the opposite of putting the PSU in the casing.
Not a smart move, Sony...
Well only when the console becomes available we will know if its a bad move, because its logical to expect that Sony knows this and would have tried to fix it
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Contradictory Article (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3660&Itemid=2)
Although unclear if he meant NA production, or production in general, Kaz Hirai (SoA president) says that although production lines are being finalized, and parts checked, the PS3 isn\'t in production yet. This contradicts last month\'s report that PS3 production had started, although he reconfirms that Sony wants to ship at least 2 million units to launch, and still expects shortages.