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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: THX on September 03, 2006, 11:37:04 PM
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Croc Hunter Steve Irwn dies (http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/04/australia.irwin/index.html)
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CNN front page ftw.
Like him or not, Irwin was very entertaining. Very sad to see him go.
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Very unexpected to see him die, especially at that age when he\'s still young. I thought it was a hoax when i first read the news, just to find out it was true...Rest In Peace...
didn\'t even know stingray tail can be that deadly...
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when you fuck around with the sort of animals he did, sooner or later your number is going to come up.
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:(
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by crickey!
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i felt kinda bad until i read a stingray killed him and not natural causes.
at least a croc didn\'t get him.
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Ironic death to say the least. Was doing a doc on dangerous ocean life, stingrays are very placid creatures.
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That\'s what surprised me the most, whenever you go to marineland or dive in the ocean, they\'re always telling you how the stingray is a gentle creature, like a sea-cow.
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I\'d bet the dumbass was harrassing them, like he did with every other animal. \'Bout time something done him in.,
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i felt kinda bad to hear the news...this cat was too funny....every dangerous animal he approached he would almost always say.."aw it\'s just a BABY!"..:p...there\'s a couple of other perps out in austraila tryin to be like him, but this cat was the one and only true croc hunter...rip...:fro:
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I\'d bet the dumbass was harrassing them, like he did with every other animal
funny you should say that, I said virtually the same thing on another forum.
In my minds eye, I saw him practically wrestling with it.
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Normally I would care, but after I watched him dangle his little infant in front of giant croc, I lost all respect for him.
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I say he got what was coming to him. Act like an idiot, it\'s bound to catch up with you. No big loss, move on.
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those that are surprised...how can you be? He played the odds for a long time. Im surprised it didnt happen sooner.
As for the stingray..im sure he did provoke it as rays usually dont attack people. even when stepped on, they still swim away most of the time.
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Yeah- he has been in many close accidents before, this was just the one that got \'em.
I wish a gator got \'em though, would\'ve been much cooler.
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He was probly trying to jam his thumb up the stingrays butthole.
But said death non the less, liked the guy.
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Sad news but this had to catch up with him eventually.
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He was entertaining, and a father and husband. So this is kind of a bummer.
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seems that he was struck in the heart directly. talk about bad luck for a guy who has beat the odds for decades.
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Some of you act like he\'s done nothing but be cruel to wildlife, when in actual fact he has spent his whole life trying to save the flaura amnd fauna of Australia, and likely elsewhere in the world.
He was a good man. And he\'ll be missed.
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LIC, being the sarcastic prick hasn\'t been funny since jumpman stopped trying
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He was a good man. And he\'ll be missed.
I agree. One of the very few TV personalities that didn\'t let the fame and money get to him. Very genuine guy that was passionate about something other than himself.
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Some of you act like he\'s done nothing but be cruel to wildlife, when in actual fact he has spent his whole life trying to save the flaura amnd fauna of Australia, and likely elsewhere in the world.
He was a good man. And he\'ll be missed.
I agree also.
I usually dont realy care when I hear about someone I don\'t know dying. But I felt bad about this.
He seemed like a pretty happy-go-lucky guy.
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LIC, being the sarcastic prick hasn\'t been funny since jumpman stopped trying
I don\'t give a fuck what you think, personally.
Some of you act like he\'s done nothing but be cruel to wildlife, when in actual fact he has spent his whole life trying to save the flaura amnd fauna of Australia, and likely elsewhere in the world.
He was a good man. And he\'ll be missed.
You can help teh widllife without annoying it. He played the odds for ages and got what was coming to him. That\'s just my personal opinion.
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I agree. One of the very few TV personalities that didn\'t let the fame and money get to him. Very genuine guy that was passionate about something other than himself.
Yeah, that\'s true. Crikey... Croc poo! LOL.
I don\'t give a fuck what you think, personally.
You don\'t give a fuck what anybody thinks and the feeling is mutual.
You can help teh widllife without annoying it. He played the odds for ages and got what was coming to him. That\'s just my personal opinion.
How did he get what was coming to him? He dealt with crocodiles a lot. Crocodiles aren\'t exactly passive creatures. Of course they\'re going to be "annoyed". And he dealt with a lot of different animals and he didn\'t "annoy" them. You\'ve apparently never watched his show. He\'s done some great things for animals and he\'s done things that nobody else would have the balls to do in order to help the creatures that he loved.
I still don\'t agree with him dangling his baby in front of a crocodile, however. That was ridiculous.
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don\'t even know why people bother reading LICs replies, the guy has a pole up his ass. what else is new?
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I\'d bet the dumbass was harrassing them, like he did with every other animal. \'Bout time something done him in.,
:mad:
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lic is just mad at the world, that teen angst must have never left.
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it should have been jeff corwin. At least Irwin was good comedy fodder.
RIP, you insane bastard.
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You can help teh widllife without annoying it. He played the odds for ages and got what was coming to him. That\'s just my personal opinion.
Well your opinion is spurious at best. You\'re looking at what he has done through jaundiced eyes. Surely you haven\'t become too much of a mysanthrope to see how much utter and genuine good the man has done.
I mean seriously.. you\'re worried about animals being annoyed? Particularly considering the vast amount of times he has wrestled with crocodiles, or captured any other number of beasts was to promote knowledge of said beasties. Or for it\'s immediate health and safety concerns. I\'ve been to his zoo several times, and they never just wrestle an animal for a bit o\' fun. Personally, I\'d much rather be annoyed slightly, then die as a direct result of having broken legs from boat motors and the like.
His passion and love for animals was infectious, particularly to children, and he was genuinly entertaining, as well as informative about important issues. The amount of contributions he has made personally to conservationism, which were vast, surely pales in comparison to his indirect contributions.
This post is by no means a personal attack on you. I just think your opinion of the man is ill-conceived. But you\'re welcome to have it.
I still don\'t agree with him dangling his baby in front of a crocodile, however. That was ridiculous.
He probably could have done it far more tastefully. Nothing against the man, but I do think he was a bit simple in some respects. Naive would be a better word. He decided to do something that seemed very pertinent and necessary for his family in a public forum, which was a mistake. The dangling was just plain inappropriate and too Michael Jackon-esque.
And yes, after all is said and done. He did have it coming to him. You can only defy death so many times before it catches up with you. Even with such a placid creature as a stingray. Supposedly, they have video footage available (but aren\'t releasing it for obvious reasons) and it was an unprovoked attack. He was merely filming it from above, the stringray turned around and flicked it\'s tail upwards. Steve removed the barb himself and was taken to shore. He was dead by the time the ambulance arrived. On of only 3 other men in Australian history to be taken down by a \'ray.
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Supposedly, they have video footage available (but aren\'t releasing it for obvious reasons) and it was an unprovoked attack. He was merely filming it from above, the stringray turned around and flicked it\'s tail upwards. Steve removed the barb himself and was taken to shore. He was dead by the time the ambulance arrived. On of only 3 other men in Australian history to be taken down by a \'ray.
How sad, and that really does sucks.
do you have a link to the video clip of it?
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Supposedly, they have video footage available (but aren\'t releasing it for obvious reasons)
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oh okay, my english isn\'t that good. Communication and understanding is probably one of my weaker points.
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Your English is a lot better than most people on these boards.
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IStandByMyOpinionIfYouAnnoyAnimalsEnoughOneWillAttackYouAndProbablyWin.ItReallyIsThatSimple.I\'mSureHeWasAGoodGuyAndJustWantedToHelpTheAnimalsAndWhatNot,ButHePutHimselfAtRisk,WhichIsStupid,SoHeGetsNoPityFromMeForDying.
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Well I have the same opinion ("And yes, after all is said and done. He did have it coming to him. You can only defy death so many times before it catches up with you."). You merely conveyed it in such a manner that made it sound like he was receiving his just deserts.
There\'s a difference between running out of luck and getting what you deserved. And saying that it was "no big loss" in such a manner made it sound as though you genuinly believed he hadn\'t contributed to the planet in a positive way at all. Again, there\'s a difference between someones death being "no big loss" and getting "no pity" from a single individual.
Don\'t get frustrated at people mis-interpreting what you say when you have trouble commincating just what you mean in the first (and second) place.
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lic, please walk across a busy street several times today.
something is bound to happen.
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Well your opinion is spurious at best. You\'re looking at what he has done through jaundiced eyes. Surely you haven\'t become too much of a mysanthrope to see how much utter and genuine good the man has done.
I mean seriously.. you\'re worried about animals being annoyed? Particularly considering the vast amount of times he has wrestled with crocodiles, or captured any other number of beasts was to promote knowledge of said beasties. Or for it\'s immediate health and safety concerns. I\'ve been to his zoo several times, and they never just wrestle an animal for a bit o\' fun. Personally, I\'d much rather be annoyed slightly, then die as a direct result of having broken legs from boat motors and the like.
His passion and love for animals was infectious, particularly to children, and he was genuinly entertaining, as well as informative about important issues. The amount of contributions he has made personally to conservationism, which were vast, surely pales in comparison to his indirect contributions.
This post is by no means a personal attack on you. I just think your opinion of the man is ill-conceived. But you\'re welcome to have it.
He probably could have done it far more tastefully. Nothing against the man, but I do think he was a bit simple in some respects. Naive would be a better word. He decided to do something that seemed very pertinent and necessary for his family in a public forum, which was a mistake. The dangling was just plain inappropriate and too Michael Jackon-esque.
And yes, after all is said and done. He did have it coming to him. You can only defy death so many times before it catches up with you. Even with such a placid creature as a stingray. Supposedly, they have video footage available (but aren\'t releasing it for obvious reasons) and it was an unprovoked attack. He was merely filming it from above, the stringray turned around and flicked it\'s tail upwards. Steve removed the barb himself and was taken to shore. He was dead by the time the ambulance arrived. On of only 3 other men in Australian history to be taken down by a \'ray.
word
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lic, please walk across a busy street several times today.
something is bound to happen.
And Please Go Fuck Yourself MM.
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going to need to try alot harder, bro.
not impressed with the whole "internet tough guy" approach you\'re using lately.
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But everyone knows Internet tough guys are the toughest.
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:rofl: Sammy
It is a shame he was killed by a freak accident. This is no Siegfried and Roy accident - that fool deserved what happened to him. Using animals in entertainment such as those two did was idiotic. Irwin on the other hand, was a true conservationist - so what he chose to make documentaries that were entertaining in an odd sort of way? He never instigated the animals like the two :gfight: \'s did.
He died of a freak accident - the kind of accident that could happen on almost any job or any place one goes like being hit by a car as mm said. The guy was a good person by all accounts and his death is a terrible tragedy.
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you know that the tiger did not attack Roy, right?
it was an attempt to protect him like it would do for its own cubs.
we\'re just alot more fragil then baby tigers.
not that i\'ve ever seen a siegfriend and roy show, but they\'re hardly your typical carnies keeping animals in cages. those cats live better than most humans.
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it should have been jeff corwin. At least Irwin was good comedy fodder.
RIP, you insane bastard.
i like corwin, at least how he handles animals and loves what hes doing without going overboard. The producers make him do the corney stuff in between animals, probably to appeal to kids.
As for irwin, i liked him for a couple months, then he just got ADD annoying to me. but i was still bummed when i heard he died.
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you know that the tiger did not attack Roy, right?
it was an attempt to protect him like it would do for its own cubs.
we\'re just alot more fragil then baby tigers.
not that i\'ve ever seen a siegfriend and roy show, but they\'re hardly your typical carnies keeping animals in cages. those cats live better than most humans.
The point I am trying to make is that swimming in the ocean taking pictures of stingray\'s is in theory way less dangerous than say taming tigers to jump through fiery hoops. One would expect sooner or later a tiger is going to maul its master - swimming over a stingray and getting impaled in the heart? Who would have thought that could happen?
When my wife first told me died while doing something in the great barrier reef - I immediately thought he got bit in half by a shark or maybe some saltwater croc - I never would have thought it would be a stingray.
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roy was around that tiger from it\'s infancy, and knew its behaviour.
it wasn\'t some adult cat they found in the wild and kept caged for years.
i\'d say swimming around a foriegn large stingway is far more dangerous
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sringrays are pretty docile though.
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so are panda bears, but i\'d be willing to bet that at least one has mauled a human to death at some point in history.
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not that i\'ve ever seen a siegfriend and roy show, but they\'re hardly your typical carnies keeping animals in cages. those cats live better than most humans.
Sounds like clips talking
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That\'s fucked up, dude.
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Now those are pictures that I can laugh at. I\'m hoping the video gets leaked on the \'net.
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A lot of people at worked talked about his death today. He had a bigger impact on on folks than I thought.
Just about everyone in the office was bummed about it.
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Same here.
I don\'t find the pics funny yet (the one with the car is just stupid), but whatever.
Every time I think about how he died, I get bummed. Those sting ray tails are like daggers. He was basically just snorkeling and got stabbed in the heart.
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found this while surfing thru google images
turtle killed by a stingray
it\'s not a pretty picture, but gives you an idea of the damage those things can do
http://www.seaturtlehospital.org/raybarb1.jpg
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found this while surfing thru google images
turtle killed by a stingray
it\'s not a pretty picture, but gives you an idea of the damage those things can do
http://www.seaturtlehospital.org/raybarb1.jpg
Holy crap. Those things do do alot of damage.
I was pretty bummed to hear of his death but wasn\'t surprised. He did a dangerous job and it happened.
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(from wikipedia)
This was only the third known Australian fatality from a stingray, and the first since 1945. As of 1996, only seventeen worldwide fatalities had been recorded, and it is believed to be the only fatality from a stingray ever captured on film.
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He didnt eventry to annoy the stingray but it attacked him. Bit even if he did, nobody has the rigth to make fun of him or say that he deserved him. He protected and loved animal life more than any of us did and yet we are all alive
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so you were under water with him? That guy constantly aggitated animals.
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^ according to that video u just posted it looks like it\'s the other way around
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no doubt... you know damn well he was probably trying to get a close up shot to see if it was male or female. He probably muttered "Good gurl.....Prahtecting her baybeez like a good muther shwould...." right before he got stuck.
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read an article yesterday that the attack was completely unprovoked. he swam over the animal, and it panicked.
if anything, i\'d say it\'s because he got way too comfortable around animals that have the potential to cause him harm.
ever see the austin stevens episode where we let the 8\' diamondback slither thru his legs on the beach? he admitted a minute later that it was foolish and the snake could easily have bitten him. he was actually stunned at his own stupidity.
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I haven\'t seen that one. I was waiting for him to get struck when he stuck his hand in a viper pit though.
Even the amount of stupidity he has displayed, for nothing else..I can admire his bravery and passion.
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I was really shocked when I heard about it while I was on vacation a couple days ago. I used to watch his shows quite a bit and recently, started watching his newer show where he has his family with him on an RV visiting various places around the US.
I picked up "crikey" from him, as you\'ve probably seen in some of my older posts. It\'s because of Steve Irwin I realized just how far one has to go to see real "wild life" coz we practically changed everything.
First and foremost, Steve Irwin is a Conservationist. More than an animal wrangler. He was one of the first TV personalities to pick up a wild animal (that could kill him) and show us why they do what they do. The older format was to have a camera from a distance watch them behave. Steve Irwin\'s tactics did draw a few criticisms from zoologists but in the end, he did far more good than harm (I think he got more harm out of it than the animals).
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ever see the austin stevens episode where we let the 8\' diamondback slither thru his legs on the beach? he admitted a minute later that it was foolish and the snake could easily have bitten him. he was actually stunned at his own stupidity.
Just last weekend, I saw him pick up a poisonous snake out of a tree....fall off and still hold on to the snake\'s tail. Then he puts the snake on a branch to take close up pics of it while the snake is striking at him.
He\'ll die and hardly anyone knows him as much as Steve Irwin.