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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Riku on September 06, 2006, 08:12:52 AM
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To add to the pile today, Kikizo asked a few questions of SCEE\'s Jonathan Fargher, where he talks about the lack of HDMI cables and their impact on 1080p content, and what content would be available. If you manage to get your hands on a PS3, you\'ll still be able to play 1080p movies, but probably not games, at least anytime soon.
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200609/018.asp
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So I guess this means high definition gaming really did start with the 360, huh?
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I\'m a tool but I just found the switch last week to activate HD on the cable with my 360.
Made me put Fight Night back in. :)
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if you have Kameo or Perfect Dark Zero you NEED to check those out in Hi-def. Kameo\'s textures are...amazing...still haven\'t been topped...go now.
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I happen to have both of those. I\'ll check out Kameo, I remember how bright and vivid it was already.
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so your one of the people who cant tell the difference beween 480i and 720P?
and i\'m indifferent about 1080P games.
movies are my motivation.
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Yeah it\'s hit or miss with games because sharp, crappy graphics aren\'t very exciting.
But I was fooled because I went into my Xbox settings, switched it to Hi-Def and went on my way. I only recently went back because I didn\'t know if I had done it and saw that there was a switch on the cable too that I needed to flip.
I noticed the improvement right away, but from farther away I don\'t see it because my eyes are a little wonky and blur it anyway, heh.
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i\'m not suprised however, that the PS3 is having trouble with 1080P graphics. hell, 3000$ PC\'s have trouble with 1280x1024 resolution in games like Oblivion
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I\'m taking a quick look now, the last time I saw the list they had 3 games listed for 1080p resolution coming out in the first 4 months after launch. If I come across the article again, if I find it I\'ll post it.
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Stupid claim as there have already been claims from some developers aiming for 1080p
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http://games.kikizo.com/news/200609/018.asp
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So I guess this means high definition gaming really did start with the 360, huh?
I don\'t think so
http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38824
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Why is every topic Riku posts Anti-Sony/PS3?
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The next generation starts when I say so.
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Stupid claim as there have already been claims from some developers aiming for 1080p
Are they still aiming for 1080p? I believe it\'s in that article that it sites a couple of developers who were previously aiming for 1080p have reconsidered and are now going for 720p.
I\'m not sure how much weight to throw behind this claim. It is Sony afterall.
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Why is every topic Riku posts Anti-Sony/PS3?
They are merely observations. You can read in to it what you want.
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Personally I\'d still say : high polygon count > resolution.
Only the best ingame models and fx justify high resolution.
Why would i want to have a game which amplifies the sight
of low(er) poly models :confused:
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either 720p or 1080p are consider high def. If framerates are a problem, I wouldn\'t mind 720p instead of 1080p. Or maybe more flexible and output 1080i for some hdtv that have 1080i as its maximum output...
Don\'t forget there are a few select games that run at 1080p like Gran Turismo HD....and slowly but surely we will see more games in 1080p in the future.
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Are they still aiming for 1080p? I believe it\'s in that article that it sites a couple of developers who were previously aiming for 1080p have reconsidered and are now going for 720p.
I\'m not sure how much weight to throw behind this claim. It is Sony afterall.
So what if its Sony?
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So what if its Sony?
They\'ve made many claims that just don\'t turn out to be true. Some I remember:
There will not a HDD in the PS3
There will not be two skus
The price will not be over [insert amount here, it was equivalent to what the PS2 launched at in Japan]
Killzone was gameplay (Jack Trenton said it). The developers themselves later confessed it was only a representation of what they would like to achieve (read: not gameplay)
I can make the PS3 anytime I want. Aparently that\'s not the case as it was delayed from Spring of \'06 to November.
Worldwide launch down to U.S. and Japan launch
Two million consoles for launch down to 500,000
There\'s obviously a communication problem from within Sony. I wouldn\'t be surprised if the article cited in this thread came down to miscommunication, or poor understanding.
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half those "claims" are speculation from sites such as the theinquirer
not that is matters. a company will always hype thier product to the limit
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They\'ve made many claims that just don\'t turn out to be true. Some I remember:
There will not a HDD in the PS3
So? Thats was a very pleasant surprise when the PS3 finally got a HDD.
That was a good thing. I dont know whats the problem here. That was GREAT
There will not be two skus
Ahm...So? Unlike 360 both PS3\'s have an HDD thus you dont lose anything when it comes to exploiting gaming and online offerings.
The price will not be over [insert amount here, it was equivalent to what the PS2 launched at in Japan]
Who?When?where?
Everyone remembers that Ken Kutaragi stated after E3 2005 that PS3 was going to be expensive and that people that want it should have to work a bit harder to own one.
Killzone was gameplay (Jack Trenton said it). The developers themselves later confessed it was only a representation of what they would like to achieve (read: not gameplay)
Phill Harisson (who the hell knows Jack Trenton?) said that only what was being controlled was actually real. Everything else was on video not real time.
I can make the PS3 anytime I want. Aparently that\'s not the case as it was delayed from Spring of \'06 to November.
And that affects you as a consumer how?
Also how do you know they couldnt make PS3 anytime they wanted? You think they would have released a couble of hardware units with no games available because they could produce some?
Worldwide launch down to U.S. and Japan launch
Thats not a lie. That was an unexpected technicality
Two million consoles for launch down to 500,000
See above
Actually there were more lies from others against Sony than Sony themselves saying lies to promote their product.
Some of the lies and stupid rumors?
PS3 is broken and slow
DMC4 is not a PS3 exclusive
PS3 lost many exclusives like GTA (when wss it an exclusive) and Assasin\'s creed (How did it lose it when it never had it)
The cheaper PS3 wont support wireless controllers
PS3 has half the performance of 360
PS3 will be sold at $800-900
Developers find the PS3 extremely hard to develop (its only slightly harder than 360)
Sony stole Nintendo\'s idea
PS3 loses japanese support and moe over to support the 360
All stupid and funny claims
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Are they still aiming for 1080p? I believe it\'s in that article that it sites a couple of developers who were previously aiming for 1080p have reconsidered and are now going for 720p.
I\'m not sure how much weight to throw behind this claim. It is Sony afterall.
Who cares anyway. Most people have SDTVs. They can\'t do 1080p anyway. A lot of the audience for PS3 is high school and college kids. Do you think they have the money for an HDTV? Believe me, I want one so bad but I can\'t afford it. I have a shitty TV in my apartment that my roommate brought that I don\'t think even does 720p. I say its gameplay, not resolution it does that makes the game. It could be fucking 8-bit but if its good and fun, I don\'t give two shits.
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So? Thats was a very pleasant surprise when the PS3 finally got a HDD.
That was a good thing. I dont know whats the problem here. That was GREAT
Ahm...So? Unlike 360 both PS3\'s have an HDD thus you dont lose anything when it comes to exploiting gaming and online offerings.
Who?When?where?
Everyone remembers that Ken Kutaragi stated after E3 2005 that PS3 was going to be expensive and that people that want it should have to work a bit harder to own one.
Phill Harisson (who the hell knows Jack Trenton?) said that only what was being controlled was actually real. Everything else was on video not real time.
And that affects you as a consumer how?
Also how do you know they couldnt make PS3 anytime they wanted? You think they would have released a couble of hardware units with no games available because they could produce some?
Thats not a lie. That was an unexpected technicality
See above
Actually there were more lies from others against Sony than Sony themselves saying lies to promote their product.
Some of the lies and stupid rumors?
PS3 is broken and slow
DMC4 is not a PS3 exclusive
PS3 lost many exclusives like GTA (when wss it an exclusive) and Assasin\'s creed (How did it lose it when it never had it)
The cheaper PS3 wont support wireless controllers
PS3 has half the performance of 360
PS3 will be sold at $800-900
Developers find the PS3 extremely hard to develop (its only slightly harder than 360)
Sony stole Nintendo\'s idea
PS3 loses japanese support and moe over to support the 360
All stupid and funny claims
I wasn\'t discussing the merits of said claims, only pointing out that they were in fact stated and later revoked or proved to be inaccurate. The point was that this latest bit of information could be just as inaccurate.
*Jack Trenton is the marketing director for Sony
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Who cares anyway. Most people have SDTVs. They can\'t do 1080p anyway. A lot of the audience for PS3 is high school and college kids. Do you think they have the money for an HDTV? Believe me, I want one so bad but I can\'t afford it. I have a shitty TV in my apartment that my roommate brought that I don\'t think even does 720p. I say its gameplay, not resolution it does that makes the game. It could be fucking 8-bit but if its good and fun, I don\'t give two shits.
The people with fancy tv\'s who wanted to exploit them using the PS3 care.
Obviously.
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Who cares anyway. Most people have SDTVs. They can\'t do 1080p anyway. A lot of the audience for PS3 is high school and college kids. Do you think they have the money for an HDTV? Believe me, I want one so bad but I can\'t afford it. I have a shitty TV in my apartment that my roommate brought that I don\'t think even does 720p. I say its gameplay, not resolution it does that makes the game. It could be fucking 8-bit but if its good and fun, I don\'t give two shits.
I agree with you. It\'s only that Sony made some remarks about 720p and 1080i gaming, aimed at Microsoft and the 360, claiming that 1080p was true HD. It was just one of the points made when the remark of "Xbox 1.5" came out of Sony\'s mouth. Seeing as how they\'re having difficulties, I wonder what their stance is now?
I just find all the backlash hugely entertaining. Sony has basically tried to one up Microsoft in every instance of gaming press, and while the smoke and mirrors may have worked for a little while it\'s all coming back to bite them in the ass. One of the 1up editors said it best, something along the lines of "it would be in Sony\'s best interest if they would just shut the fuck up."
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I wasn\'t discussing the merits of said claims, only pointing out that they were in fact stated and later revoked or proved to be inaccurate. The point was that this latest bit of information could be just as inaccurate.
*Jack Trenton is the marketing director for Sony
Ok then if its not about Sony lying. Thats generally change on plans since PS3 is a highly risky investment. And many of these changes have been good decisions such as the inclusion of HDD and on both SKUs. Unexpected technicalities change some original plans
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The people with fancy tv\'s who wanted to exploit them using the PS3 care.
Obviously.
Fuck \'em ;)
But my point is still the same. People like me will be content with playing it on SDTV whereas people could still exploit the PS3\'s potential even with 720p. 720p I bet still looks pretty fucking good on an HDTV.
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Why is every topic Riku posts Anti-Sony/PS3?
It gets him excited... down there
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I agree with you. It\'s only that Sony made some remarks about 720p and 1080i gaming, aimed at Microsoft and the 360, claiming that 1080p was true HD. It was just one of the points made when the remark of "Xbox 1.5" came out of Sony\'s mouth. Seeing as how they\'re having difficulties, I wonder what their stance is now?...
You know what, you made some good points that I didn\'t even though about there.
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Fuck \'em ;)
That\'s basically the Sony corporate model, and I\'ve gotten that message loud and clear.
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That\'s basically the Sony corporate model, and I\'ve gotten that message loud and clear.
That\'s big business in a nutshell ;)