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Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: lionken07 on September 30, 2006, 08:32:44 AM
hi all how are we all doiing? its been so long since I last visited.  I can still see alot of old faces!! well here are some pics for you all to enjoy.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.earthlink.net%2F%7Elionken07%2Fimages%2F11.jpg&hash=ff8b9aa9b1328b094e30260fc622d61cf80cfcb9)

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lol me trying to look cool... :fighting:
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Cerberus on September 30, 2006, 08:40:19 AM
suddenly, I have the overwehelming urge to go on a rampage in a shopping centre.

:D

Any feds reading this, I\'m taking the piss ok?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: lionken07 on September 30, 2006, 08:51:33 AM
guns don\'t kill people, people kill people!:applause:
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: politiepet on September 30, 2006, 09:37:22 AM
yeah whatever, don\'t give me that bullshit. And don\'t start with the "I\'m using it for protection" crap either. It\'s a FACT that people with guns are more than three times likelier to be killed by one...
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Unicron! on September 30, 2006, 09:42:54 AM
*sheesh* I hate it when people show off their guns as if its some kind of toy.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: politiepet on September 30, 2006, 09:43:57 AM
for once I can agree with unicron :) yay
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Luke on September 30, 2006, 09:54:57 AM
Yup.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Unicron! on September 30, 2006, 09:57:03 AM
btw: NEVER EVER EVER point a gun upwards especially near your head!! Even if you believe its empty!
http://home.earthlink.net/~lionken07/images/a2.jpg
Quote from: politiepet
for once I can agree with unicron :) yay
I am sure it will snow in the Sahara desert now :p
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Coredweller on September 30, 2006, 10:06:31 AM
What do you mean by carry piece?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: mm on September 30, 2006, 10:26:56 AM
wtf do you need a "carry piece" for?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Jumpman on September 30, 2006, 10:36:30 AM
i reckon i could take u with a pack of playing cards
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on September 30, 2006, 10:58:27 AM
Nice..whats the other one in the shadow?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Eiksirf on September 30, 2006, 11:13:22 AM
Good luck on your first kill.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: lionken07 on September 30, 2006, 11:14:56 AM
A carry piece is well a peice of tool that people carry with them.  Note that here it is perfectly legal to carry a concealed handgun with a permit.  Its not like im doing anything against the law.  As to why I need a carry piece well, say you are walking down the street with your girl and some mofo decide to rob you with a knife what do you do?  I wouldn\'t hand in my $$ so easily, he might stab me anyway after I give him the cash anyways... its not safe in todays world anymore.  Remember folks, an armed society is a safe society.  I prey to god that I don\'t have to use it ever, but if I have to either to defend myself or love ones I will.

I don\'t understand why you guys are so against guns.  yeah Guns CAN kill people on the wrong hands, but so can alot of other things...well I don\'t want to get into the whole anti vs pro gun thing...but why can\'t people be open minded about things?:thumb:
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Post by: Eiksirf on September 30, 2006, 11:17:56 AM
Heh "so can a lot of other things".

Will you use your gun to carve steak?

Will you drive to work in your gun?

Whatever. Maybe you live in a bad neighborhood.

Or maybe you\'re what makes it bad?

Takes all kinds, ya know?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Viper_Fujax on September 30, 2006, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: lionken07
As to why I need a carry piece well, say you are walking down the street with your girl and some mofo decide to rob you with a knife what do you do?  I wouldn\'t hand in my $$ so easily, he might stab me anyway after I give him the cash anyways...



you watch too many movies
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: mm on September 30, 2006, 12:00:05 PM
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As to why I need a carry piece well, say you are walking down the street with your girl and some mofo decide to rob you with a knife what do you do?
drop the money on the ground.
they\'re not going to elevate an armed robbery to manslaugter over the 20$ you have.
know the odds of you even getting mugged at knifepoint?
there\'s a higher chance of shooting your foot off.

you carry a gun to impress kids and chicks (which i doubt works)

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Remember folks, an armed society is a safe society.
i\'m sorry have to say this to someone who just started posting again recently, but you\'re fucking stupid.

those who live by the sword, die the sword.
i see a darwin award in your future.

oh, and you look like a complete and utter jackass in the last pic
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on September 30, 2006, 12:50:24 PM
a darwin award in his future simply b/c he purchased a firearm?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Eiksirf on September 30, 2006, 12:59:17 PM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg87.imageshack.us%2Fimg87%2F1283%2Fdangunvc0.jpg&hash=c6419ccdc626ff0f1f0f2a108d61205cfb16a8f9) (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dangunvc0.jpg)
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Evi on September 30, 2006, 01:12:16 PM
^^^

:rofl:

Cool.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on September 30, 2006, 01:16:08 PM
Quote from: politiepet
yeah whatever, don\'t give me that bullshit. And don\'t start with the "I\'m using it for protection" crap either. It\'s a FACT that people with guns are more than three times likelier to be killed by one...


It\'s a useless fact. WHat does that fact have anything to do with you or another anti-gun person?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Viper_Fujax on September 30, 2006, 01:23:35 PM
Quote from: luckee
a darwin award in his future simply b/c he purchased a firearm?


no. because he has a firearm and the mentality that hed pop a cap in some mofo\'s ass if he fronts him and his girl with a knife.....

.......................or however clips would say it :D
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Evi on September 30, 2006, 01:24:32 PM
It is for protection. I don\'t go around showing my gun off to people though. That\'s just stupid.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on September 30, 2006, 01:26:47 PM
VF-your lingo is seriously fucked up.

shit he should be prepared to pop someone in the ass if he has a CCW. Hope he has plenty of time at the range too.

Evi-i do when ppl ask or wanna show off my new purchase..like any other object one wants to show off.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Evi on September 30, 2006, 01:32:53 PM
Meh...I only show it off if I go shooting with friends.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Knotter8 on September 30, 2006, 02:49:59 PM
The guns look good. The photos of the guns are pretty good too.

It\'s just that i agree with the law which prohibits gun posession, in my country :wave:
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Unicron! on September 30, 2006, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: Jumpman
i reckon i could take u with a pack of playing cards


Jumpman=Gambit?

Quote from: Eiksirf
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:lmao: :rofl:
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: mm on September 30, 2006, 03:16:18 PM
Quote from: luckee
a darwin award in his future simply b/c he purchased a firearm?


purchasing a firearm, and calling it a "carrying piece" are two completely different animals.

a gun should not be empowering.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on September 30, 2006, 03:42:47 PM
but no matter how you a person slices, it will empower. Just like being on the road driving a CCX, ZOnda, or F50.

you get further with a kind word AND a gun than you get with just a kind word.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Evi on September 30, 2006, 04:30:20 PM
If you don\'t have a gun, other people will have guns whether there\'s a law prohibiting it or not. Psycho fucks carry guns. I\'d rather own a gun. But that\'s just me. You can do whatever you want.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Jar O Pickles on September 30, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
i like guns, i will probably own a gun someday but the fact that you felt the urge to take those pictures shows that you shouldnt have them
a gun is one of those things that you buy with the hopes you\'ll never have to see it again
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: mm on September 30, 2006, 06:01:52 PM
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you get further with a kind word AND a gun than you get with just a kind word.

get further in what?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on September 30, 2006, 07:31:47 PM
people that show off guns, shouldn\'t have them. They have a shitty mind set to begin with. The fact that he put it up to his head shows his total lack of respect for weapons.. Why not just buy something like a stun gun. Just as effective and you won\'t kill someone or yourself without being very unlucky.
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Post by: Unicron! on September 30, 2006, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: §ôµÏG®ïñD
people that show off guns, shouldn\'t have them. They have a shitty mind set to begin with. The fact that he put it up to his head shows his total lack of respect for weapons.. Why not just buy something like a stun gun. Just as effective and you won\'t kill someone or yourself without being very unlucky.
Its not just disrespect. Its against safety regulations too.

But its expected when in every channel we are bombarded with Hollywood action movies. We lose the sense of danger for these things. After having personal experience with guns in the army I now understand the BS action movies show to us and how wrong it influences the masses. Most people imagine guns as cool things to show off and brag about just like movies. They even expect to use them just like in the movies. They look sexy on the surface but they are stupid killing ugly machines.

Hell! If you are inexperienced shooting with that thing may unexpectedly jump off your hand. You cant even shoot at a human target 15 meters away from you that easily.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: lionken07 on September 30, 2006, 07:53:20 PM
i don\'t want to go into the whole anti gun vs pro gun thing.  As its pointless to tell close minded people what others think.

I do have something to say about the last picture that I posted tho.  The picture isn\'t against any safety regulations.

From what I\'ve learned:

1. Know your target and what\'s behind it.
2. finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
3. ALL guns are loaded and treat them as loaded.
4. don\'t point at anything you don\'t intend to destory.

I follow those rules in that picture.  So please if you don\'t know something don\'t act like you do...:liar:

I know most of the old timers here but this thread is making me rethink how nice you guys are...
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Titan on September 30, 2006, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: politiepet
yeah whatever, don\'t give me that bullshit. And don\'t start with the "I\'m using it for protection" crap either. It\'s a FACT that people with guns are more than three times likelier to be killed by one...


That has to be the most ignorant thing I\'ve heard in a while. You know, some people buy them for sport just like shooting a bow and arrow. I\'m eventually gonna buy a couple rifles one day. Am I gonna go on a shooting rampage? No. What am I gonna do with it? Hunt and go to the shooting range. Why? Because I find shooting rifles and shotguns to be quite fun. Anti-gun people piss me off. Its my right as an American to own and fire one. Don\'t tell me I\'m gonna kill myself with one because I just have a bigger chance on getting killed in my car. If you are responsible, firearms are quite safe.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: lionken07 on September 30, 2006, 08:08:35 PM
my point exactly, if you follow 3 out of the 4 rules in the safetly of gun handling its pretty near impossible to shoot yourself...:thumb:
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Post by: FatalXception on September 30, 2006, 08:12:53 PM
You have that gun less than 6 inches from your ear.  You aren\'t treating it like a loaded weapon that could accidentally discharge.  At that distance, the bullet doesn\'t have to hit you to cause serious damage, whether from sound or heat.

Always treat a gun as if it is loaded and could go off accidentally (they do, you know).  You are clearly treating the gun in that photo without the respect a weapon of leathal ability deserves.

Titan is of course, correct, as an American he knows that

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A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

He wouldn\'t want to be unprepared the next time England launched an invasion now, would he?  Too bad they didn\'t use sunset clauses back then.

I don\'t generally have a problem with long gun ownership, for hunters/target shooters, but I do wish there were more restrictions worldwide on the manufacture and sale of handguns and \'military\' grade rifles (automatic, AP).

*damn* .... and after I promised myself I would stay away from this thread.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Titan on September 30, 2006, 08:19:45 PM
Quote from: FatalXception
He wouldn\'t want to be unprepared the next time England launched an invasion now, would he?  Too bad they didn\'t use sunset clauses back then.


Nah screw England. I\'m more concerned about Canada. They have some crazy motherfuckers over there. Look at the Canadiens on this board ;)
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: FatalXception on September 30, 2006, 08:27:28 PM
Canadiens are French Canadians of course, a group to which I do not belong.
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Post by: mm on September 30, 2006, 08:50:49 PM
owning a gun isn\'t the issue here.

thinking you\'re in any way cool by owning a gun, is
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Post by: Evi on September 30, 2006, 08:51:50 PM
Exactly.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: THX on September 30, 2006, 10:34:29 PM
nice guns
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on October 01, 2006, 12:06:01 AM
Eiksirf has a total disrespect for that orange gun too.  It could capture some kind of light and damage the surface which reflected it.   Dangerous, just so so dangerous!
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Post by: politiepet on October 01, 2006, 02:20:42 AM
Quote from: Titan
That has to be the most ignorant thing I\'ve heard in a while. You know, some people buy them for sport just like shooting a bow and arrow. I\'m eventually gonna buy a couple rifles one day. Am I gonna go on a shooting rampage? No. What am I gonna do with it? Hunt and go to the shooting range. Why? Because I find shooting rifles and shotguns to be quite fun. Anti-gun people piss me off. Its my right as an American to own and fire one. Don\'t tell me I\'m gonna kill myself with one because I just have a bigger chance on getting killed in my car. If you are responsible, firearms are quite safe.


I don\'t mind people using it for sports or hunting, it\'s those idiots who think they need it for protection that piss me off.


oh and lionken, you are in idiot, if you wanna leave, be my guest :)
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Post by: Jar O Pickles on October 01, 2006, 08:33:43 AM
Quote from: lionken07

4. don\'t point at anything you don\'t intend to destory.



what the hell did your ceiling ever do to you
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Unicron! on October 01, 2006, 09:57:58 AM
Quote from: lionken07
i don\'t want to go into the whole anti gun vs pro gun thing.  As its pointless to tell close minded people what others think.

I do have something to say about the last picture that I posted tho.  The picture isn\'t against any safety regulations.

From what I\'ve learned:

1. Know your target and what\'s behind it.
2. finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
3. ALL guns are loaded and treat them as loaded.
4. don\'t point at anything you don\'t intend to destory.

I follow those rules in that picture.  So please if you don\'t know something don\'t act like you do...:liar:

I know most of the old timers here but this thread is making me rethink how nice you guys are...

http://home.earthlink.net/~lionken07/images/a2.jpg

You arent following a rule here. Although I certaintly reckognise the fact that your finger is on the side of the gun and not on the trigger.

Quote from: politiepet
I don\'t mind people using it for sports or hunting, it\'s those idiots who think they need it for protection that piss me off.


oh and lionken, you are in idiot, if you wanna leave, be my guest :)


Uhm that was totally unnecessary
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Post by: Knotter8 on October 01, 2006, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Unicron!
Uhm that was totally unnecessary

That was in response to Lionken\'s "I know most of the old timers here but this thread is making me rethink how nice you guys are..."

Somewhat valid response I\'d say.....(though the style of saying that is debatable..)

Anyway, I wonder how well he can remember and abide those 4 rules under extreme stressfull situation and even moments of human carelessness.....
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Post by: Unicron! on October 01, 2006, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: Knotter8
That was in response to Lionken\'s "I know most of the old timers here but this thread is making me rethink how nice you guys are..."

Somewhat valid response I\'d say.....(though the style of saying that is debatable..)
Yeah I know. But I dont think calling him an idiot can make someone any better

And ok the guy probably didnt think of it(I mean about the gun) the same way we do or didnt expect such reactions, but that doesnt mean we should kick him out. Right?
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Post by: mm on October 01, 2006, 11:13:42 AM
he forgot to post one
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.earthlink.net%2F%7Elionken07%2Fimages%2Fa3.jpg&hash=f86d991861fe65ac6ec2755a4dbe259987b098eb)
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Post by: FatalXception on October 01, 2006, 11:23:45 AM
Within cone of danger for the cameraman.  tsk, tsk.  (assuming it\'s not self taken).
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Post by: Knotter8 on October 01, 2006, 11:58:58 AM
I can see the 2nd gun box in the background (black casing) ehmmm... seems to have his stuff littered around , a little carelessly eh ?
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Post by: politiepet on October 01, 2006, 12:30:45 PM
what a douche,
let\'s hope he shoots himself ;)
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Post by: Jar O Pickles on October 01, 2006, 01:37:53 PM
Quote from: FatalXception
Within cone of danger for the cameraman.  tsk, tsk.  (assuming it\'s not self taken).

he\'s gangsta son
you best not be frontin\'
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Post by: Evi on October 01, 2006, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: mm
he forgot to post one
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.earthlink.net%2F%7Elionken07%2Fimages%2Fa3.jpg&hash=f86d991861fe65ac6ec2755a4dbe259987b098eb)
Wow he\'s a dumb fuck.
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Post by: Titan on October 01, 2006, 01:54:32 PM
Where did mm dig that pic up?
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Post by: Evi on October 01, 2006, 02:17:23 PM
^^

I\'m guessing he just copied the image link from one of the images the OP already posted, pasted it in the address bar, and edited the ending and came up with another image.
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Post by: luckee on October 01, 2006, 03:22:44 PM
Quote from: politiepet
I don\'t mind people using it for sports or hunting, it\'s those idiots who think they need it for protection that piss me off.

QUOTE]

Just b/c you are not worried about someone stealing one of your windmill blades over there doesnt mean alot of us dont have legitimate protection concerns.
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Post by: FatalXception on October 01, 2006, 03:48:15 PM
I can see where a \'pimp\' like you wants to protect his weed (avatar and title).  That\'s probably a good reason to own a gun :rolleyes:.  Way to quote, quotee.
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Post by: Eiksirf on October 01, 2006, 03:51:58 PM
This is my rifle, this is my gun...
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: mm on October 01, 2006, 04:10:46 PM
are you new to the internet?

shitty hosts like earthlink don\'t know about directory security
http://home.earthlink.net/~lionken07/
is his root path.

good thing those pics are 4 years old
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:v73d98KFkGMJ:www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D217407+lionken07&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=12&client=firefox-a


http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222581
on a side note, that forum is fucking scary!
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Does anyone know of a way to learn how to knife fight.
:eek:
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Evi on October 01, 2006, 04:20:01 PM
Wow...you just pwned the internet, mm. Root paths, FTW!
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Post by: Titan on October 01, 2006, 06:52:29 PM
Quote from: mm
are you new to the internet?

shitty hosts like earthlink don\'t know about directory security
http://home.earthlink.net/~lionken07/
is his root path.

good thing those pics are 4 years old
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:v73d98KFkGMJ:www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D217407+lionken07&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=12&client=firefox-a


http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222581
on a side note, that forum is fucking scary!

:eek:



Haha. You are the god of the internet. I don\'t know how you find these things.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 01, 2006, 06:55:32 PM
Quote from: mm
are you new to the internet?

shitty hosts like earthlink don\'t know about directory security
http://home.earthlink.net/~lionken07/
is his root path.

good thing those pics are 4 years old
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:v73d98KFkGMJ:www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D217407+lionken07&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=12&client=firefox-a


http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222581
on a side note, that forum is fucking scary!

:eek:
Knife fight? These guys think its fun or something? :eek:
Too much influence from movies or what?

i d like to know their ages
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Titan on October 01, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
Knife fight? These guys think its fun or something? :eek:
Too much influence from movies or what?

i d like to know their ages


They may be adults but they have the mentality of a 12 year old. Too much GTA. I own quite a few knives, I\'ll admit it. I don\'t carry them except when I\'m camping or carving in my room or need it around the house (Swiss Army Knives are the shit. So handy). My grandmother actaully bought me a very nice hunting knife with display case when she went to Alaska and I absolutely love it. But I treat them like tools. They are made to help humans. Guns are the same way. They are tools for hunting and sport shooting. That\'s what I\'d use it for. If someone broke into my house (I don\'t own a gun just yet, this is hypothetical), I\'d probably grab it if I could get my gun locker unlocked in time, put the action back in and load it. But I\'d first call the police. I wouldn\'t go after a robber with a gun, I woulnd\'t fire it unless I knew he was gonna shoot me and I wouldn\'t shoot to kill. Shoot him in the balls and the last thing on his mind would be where to shoot you ;)
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Post by: Phil on October 01, 2006, 07:03:41 PM
Christ there are a lot of fucked up people in this world.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on October 01, 2006, 07:39:28 PM
Quote from: FatalXception
I can see where a \'pimp\' like you wants to protect his weed (avatar and title).  That\'s probably a good reason to own a gun :rolleyes:.  Way to quote, quotee.


It\'s not for the trees but rather the kilos of blow...get it right... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Sara on October 01, 2006, 08:27:58 PM
Lionken, your guns are very nice - a colt and what I think is an HK.  I own a Kimber Custom Royal...and yes I think Kimbers are better than Colts, but it doesn\'t mean I wouldn\'t love to own a Colt gold cup.

Not all young guys think guns are cool.  You really have to know what company you\'re in when you go posting pics of yourself essentially treating a firearm like it\'s a toy.  It sort of negates the fact that your finger isn\'t on the trigger.  If you want to take pics of yourself and your handguns, get some shots of you at the range or in the woods with ear and eye protection.  It will make you less like a frat boy with a .45

And it goes..."an armed society is a polite society"
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: lionken07 on October 01, 2006, 08:31:57 PM
As you can tell that picture is taken by myself holding the camera with the left hand...
I have yet to put anyone in danger in any of the pictures.  I understand you guys want to put me down simply because i own guns and you don\'t but why?  Don\'t be jealous, why can\'t we all get along?  I used to love this fourms and I still sorta do...:shy:

Still not exactly sure why some of you guys are so against carrying a gun for protection.  

If your house got robbed for the 3rd times in 10 years while your away you might reconsider. You can never trust the police to always be there for you.:shy:
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: lionken07 on October 01, 2006, 08:36:41 PM
Quote from: Sara
Lionken, your guns are very nice - a colt and what I think is an HK.  I own a Kimber Custom Royal...and yes I think Kimbers are better than Colts, but it doesn\'t mean I wouldn\'t love to own a Colt gold cup.

Not all young guys think guns are cool.  You really have to know what company you\'re in when you go posting pics of yourself essentially treating a firearm like it\'s a toy.  It sort of negates the fact that your finger isn\'t on the trigger.  If you want to take pics of yourself and your handguns, get some shots of you at the range or in the woods with ear and eye protection.  It will make you less like a frat boy with a .45

And it goes..."an armed society is a polite society"



Very well said, I didn\'t expect to read something like this in a Playstation 2 forum.  If only more people can understand that guns don\'t "JUST" go off, you have to pull the trigger for it to fire.  There is no accidental discharge, only stupidity.

"an armed society IS a polite society"!  as you can see even with all the faming and name calling I still have yet to call back any names.  Only general commons :thumb:
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Unicron! on October 01, 2006, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: lionken07
As you can tell that picture is taken by myself holding the camera with the left hand...
I have yet to put anyone in danger in any of the pictures.  I understand you guys want to put me down simply because i own guns and you don\'t but why?  Don\'t be jealous, why can\'t we all get along?  I used to love this fourms and I still sorta do...:shy:

Still not exactly sure why some of you guys are so against carrying a gun for protection.  

If your house got robbed for the 3rd times in 10 years while your away you might reconsider. You can never trust the police to always be there for you.:shy:
I used to have an army G3A4 because the national guard demands it (Now I gave it back because I have a temporary release from my "army duties". *sheesh* I wish I never had to deal with such stupid shit)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airsoftgi.com%2Fimages%2Fg3a4his.jpg&hash=c4cf9346e6b5cd90cb665b6a104c037c4f6ca5db)

If 10 people stand in line in front of it and shoots, the bullet will get all ten of them. Its an ugly piece of shit, and I wish humans never created such stupid shit

Actually the problem is not carrying it for protection. Its how someone views his possession of a gun that annoys
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Titan on October 01, 2006, 09:26:56 PM
Quote from: lionken07
If your house got robbed for the 3rd times in 10 years while your away you might reconsider. You can never trust the police to always be there for you.:shy:


Robbed while your away? Wouldn\'t the gun not do any good to protect your house unless you\'re there to use it?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Evi on October 01, 2006, 09:38:13 PM
Quote from: lionken07
As you can tell that picture is taken by myself holding the camera with the left hand...
I have yet to put anyone in danger in any of the pictures.  I understand you guys want to put me down simply because i own guns and you don\'t but why?  Don\'t be jealous, why can\'t we all get along?  I used to love this fourms and I still sorta do...:shy:

Still not exactly sure why some of you guys are so against carrying a gun for protection.  

If your house got robbed for the 3rd times in 10 years while your away you might reconsider. You can never trust the police to always be there for you.:shy:
Jealous? About guns? Are you fucking retarded?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on October 01, 2006, 09:41:16 PM
Quote from: Titan
Robbed while your away? Wouldn\'t the gun not do any good to protect your house unless you\'re there to use it?



sounds more like it was someone that knew he would be out of town. Even if it wasn\'t it still supports his argument even though he worded it the wrong way.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on October 01, 2006, 09:53:06 PM
Quote from: lionken07
As you can tell that picture is taken by myself holding the camera with the left hand...
I have yet to put anyone in danger in any of the pictures.  I understand you guys want to put me down simply because i own guns and you don\'t but why?  Don\'t be jealous, why can\'t we all get along?  I used to love this fourms and I still sorta do...:shy:

Still not exactly sure why some of you guys are so against carrying a gun for protection.  

If your house got robbed for the 3rd times in 10 years while your away you might reconsider. You can never trust the police to always be there for you.:shy:


:laughing: i\'ve got weapons that put those piss week pistols to shame. I don\'t parade them like a cockhead though.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Halberto on October 01, 2006, 10:03:55 PM
Quote from: Titan
That has to be the most ignorant thing I\'ve heard in a while. You know, some people buy them for sport just like shooting a bow and arrow. I\'m eventually gonna buy a couple rifles one day. Am I gonna go on a shooting rampage? No. What am I gonna do with it? Hunt and go to the shooting range. Why? Because I find shooting rifles and shotguns to be quite fun. Anti-gun people piss me off. Its my right as an American to own and fire one. Don\'t tell me I\'m gonna kill myself with one because I just have a bigger chance on getting killed in my car. If you are responsible, firearms are quite safe.



Lots to talk about here...

First off, if you are in need of a gun in the middle of the night how do you intend to get it in time? You hear a crash (if your burglar is a dumb fuck) and you immediately hop up, run to the closet, open your case? Not only is that improbable, but if it were true it would be stupid. How many times have you woken up to a bang and automatically think it\'s a burglar? It could be a million different things.

If you\'re thinking off not being safe with it and leaving it in the open, say on your nightstand or under your pillow, then you\'re asking for trouble. If you don\'t ever touch it that doesn\'t mean someone wont pick it up and start looking at it when you aren\'t around.

Guns are an obsession in America, there are plenty of statistics that support that statement. It\'s time every macho guy swallows their pride and realize it\'s not usually worth it.

By the way, killing animals for sport is pitiful. It\'s a sad display of humanity. Because you have a gun, it doesn\'t matter if the animal has a right to live or not. But that\'s another subject, but not suprisingly these trigger happy mother fuckers are the same small dicked people that must own 6 or 7 different guns.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on October 01, 2006, 10:13:11 PM
Quote from: Halberto
Lots to talk about here...

First off, if you are in need of a gun in the middle of the night how do you intend to get it in time? You hear a crash (if your burglar is a dumb fuck) and you immediately hop up, run to the closet, open your case? Not only is that improbable, but if it were true it would be stupid. How many times have you woken up to a bang and automatically think it\'s a burglar? It could be a million different things.

If you\'re thinking off not being safe with it and leaving it in the open, say on your nightstand or under your pillow, then you\'re asking for trouble. If you don\'t ever touch it that doesn\'t mean someone wont pick it up and start looking at it when you aren\'t around.

Guns are an obsession in America, there are plenty of statistics that support that statement. It\'s time every macho guy swallows their pride and realize it\'s not usually worth it.

By the way, killing animals for sport is pitiful. It\'s a sad display of humanity. Because you have a gun, it doesn\'t matter if the animal has a right to live or not. But that\'s another subject, but not suprisingly these trigger happy mother fuckers are the same small dicked people that must own 6 or 7 different guns.



when i goto sleep..i keep a gun in the nightstand next to me loaded. my lady friend knows about it and how to shoot it as well. When I go to work or anywhere for that fcat and dont carry it, it gets locked in the safe. I\'ve woken up to noise often at night. Usually it\'s one of the neighbors and once the dog knocked something over. EAch time i woke up and grabbed mi pistola.

I feel fine about my sport shooting as is is fun to improve my skill in firing said weapons. I enjoy to hunt but dont do it much anymore, but best believe I do it b/c I like deer burgers when up north. if against hunting..im sure you are against fishing as well?


BTW are you not the same racist fuck vivi? and the nerve to talk about sad displays of humanity?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Titan on October 01, 2006, 10:16:48 PM
I just know that a deer is lower on the foodchain than me. I don\'t care how I get my food as long as its a quick way to eat.

If I ever did go hunting, I probably would eat it.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Halberto on October 01, 2006, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: luckee
when i goto sleep..i keep a gun in the nightstand next to me loaded. my lady friend knows about it and how to shoot it as well. When I go to work or anywhere for that fcat and dont carry it, it gets locked in the safe. I\'ve woken up to noise often at night. Usually it\'s one of the neighbors and once the dog knocked something over. EAch time i woke up and grabbed mi pistola.

I feel fine about my sport shooting as is is fun to improve my skill in firing said weapons. I enjoy to hunt but dont do it much anymore, but best believe I do it b/c I like deer burgers when up north. if against hunting..im sure you are against fishing as well?


I\'m against hunting for the sake of mounting heads on the wall. Atleast eating it serves a purpose.

Wait till you have kids and they find out you have a gun, I bet you wont keep it there anymore. Like I said, most of the time it\'s not a burglar and not everyone can keep themselves from letting the situation get to them.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on October 01, 2006, 10:21:03 PM
Im sure i wont do that when i have kids and i dont so realy no need in arguing that part i s\'pose. you wanna respond to my edit at the bottom though if it is in fact the same person?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Unicron! on October 01, 2006, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: Titan
I just know that a deer is lower on the foodchain than me. I don\'t care how I get my food as long as its a quick way to eat.

If I ever did go hunting, I probably would eat it.

I wouldnt have been against hunting/killing nature if stores sold guns instead of food. But ofcourse they sell more food than we can eat instead.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Halberto on October 01, 2006, 10:53:38 PM
Yeah that was me, Im not going to bother explaining that some people change.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: mm on October 02, 2006, 03:53:47 AM
like i said,

owning a gun is fine.
thinking you are cool by owning a gun is not.

the mere act of taking pictures of yourself holding the gun makes it lame beyond comprehension.

it\'s a game to you, and will cost you your life if you ever decide to be man enough to pull it out
guns are for cowards

if you would have posted those 4 year old pics without the last one of yourself looking so smug, this thead would have died on page one.
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Post by: CHIZZY on October 02, 2006, 03:55:03 AM
those are nice pistols, but I\'m with sara. Let\'s see some 5 round groups, and a video where it shows you not flinching like a schoolgirl. (btw, if you think you don\'t flich, get a revolver, put 3 rounds in at random, and spin the barrel. Oh yeah, you flinch, flinchy.)
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Post by: Eiksirf on October 02, 2006, 03:55:18 AM
Quote from: lionken07
If your house got robbed for the 3rd times in 10 years while your away you might reconsider.

Nice of you. Now the next guy will get a new gun when he robs you while you\'re away.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: FatalXception on October 02, 2006, 08:14:04 AM
If fully trained officers can accidentaly discharge their weapons, you better believe it can happen to you.

Into his own foot (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LHtlxfcuilM)

God I hate this one (http://youtube.com/watch?v=3g_ffroqhMc)

Cone of danger (http://youtube.com/watch?v=JbMHjFdFyF8)

Even checks the slide (http://youtube.com/watch?v=XX9S03o49EA)

Kids love guns.  Kids are stupid. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bBdZc2i04FQ)

Story 1 (http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/05/10/we_had_an_accidental_discharge.php), Story 2 (http://sleepless.blogs.com/george/2005/04/accidental_poli.html), US politicians killed by accidental discharges (http://politicalgraveyard.com/death/gun-accidents.html)

Side by Side of Canda/US per capita (http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/Cda-US.htm)

You\'ll note in Canada that the vast proponderance of gun deaths a year (there are usually about 1100 a year) are suicides (around 800).  Another 180 are murders with a gun, only 85 of which involve a handgun.  The remaining 120 or so are accidental discharges.  Those numbers are rough numbers, from memory from about 3 years ago (but they\'re probably pretty close).

Of the nearly 31000 gun deaths a year in the US, nearly 12000 are homicides, and about 9000 of those involve a handgun.  More than half are still suicides. More than 80 people die every day in the US from guns, just over 3 a day in Canada.

In the US, a police officer dies in the line of duty every 53 hours (http://www.nleomf.com/TheMemorial/Facts/polfacts.htm) about half (http://www.nleomf.com/TheMemorial/Facts/causes.htm) of which are accidents, and half of which are not - more than 1/3rd are shot.  In Canada, in the last decade, we\'ve had years as low as 4 deaths nationwide, and as high as 12. Bad year 1 - 11 deaths - 5 shot (http://www.odmp.org/canada/year.php?year=2005), Bad year 2 - 12 deaths - 1 shot (http://www.odmp.org/canada/year.php?year=2002), Bad year 3 - 9 deaths - 0 shot (http://www.odmp.org/canada/year.php?year=2000).
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on October 02, 2006, 08:26:10 AM
i hate the gun and suicide stats b/c these ppl will find another way to do it and gun grabbers just use it as an excuse.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: FatalXception on October 02, 2006, 08:47:04 AM
Actually, the stat you should focus on (I don\'t know about the US, but suicide is not illegal in Canada), is homicide and accident rate with guns.

Accidental: .2 per 100k in Canada, .3 per 100k in US.
Criminal: .7 per 100k in Canada, 4.7 per 100k in US.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Titan on October 02, 2006, 10:53:11 AM
Quote from: Halberto
I\'m against hunting for the sake of mounting heads on the wall. Atleast eating it serves a purpose.

Wait till you have kids and they find out you have a gun, I bet you wont keep it there anymore. Like I said, most of the time it\'s not a burglar and not everyone can keep themselves from letting the situation get to them.


You do know that when they mount a head on a wall, its just the pelt, right? They don\'t cut the head off and put it on a piece of wood. They take the skin off and put it over a foam head. Besides, a lot of people that mount heads, cut the rest up for meat anyway. Research before you say something stupid.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on October 02, 2006, 11:13:10 AM
Quote from: FatalXception
Actually, the stat you should focus on (I don\'t know about the US, but suicide is not illegal in Canada), is homicide and accident rate with guns.

Accidental: .2 per 100k in Canada, .3 per 100k in US.
Criminal: .7 per 100k in Canada, 4.7 per 100k in US.


accidental is the only one that is valid IMO

b/c criminals dont care about laws and restrictions in the first place
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: theomen on October 02, 2006, 11:25:41 AM
fuck handguns, go less than lethal.  Nothing worse than a Taser.  An x26 taser has more effective stopping power than a 9mm.  Shoot someone in the shoulder with a 9 and they can still beat your ass, shoot them with an x26 and you own them.

case in point;
http://view.break.com/68396
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: luckee on October 02, 2006, 11:36:52 AM
thats why one should buy a Five-seveN .
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Evi on October 02, 2006, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: theomen
fuck handguns, go less than lethal.  Nothing worse than a Taser.  An x26 taser has more effective stopping power than a 9mm.  Shoot someone in the shoulder with a 9 and they can still beat your ass, shoot them with an x26 and you own them.

case in point;
http://view.break.com/68396
"Sit the fuck down" would be a good caption for that. :thumb:
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Post by: CHIZZY on October 02, 2006, 12:16:00 PM
or a deuce-five. It\'s a cavalry gun.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 03, 2006, 07:02:34 AM
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Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Unicron! on October 03, 2006, 03:19:41 PM
Quote from: Titan
You do know that when they mount a head on a wall, its just the pelt, right? They don\'t cut the head off and put it on a piece of wood. They take the skin off and put it over a foam head. Besides, a lot of people that mount heads, cut the rest up for meat anyway. Research before you say something stupid.
I think what he was trying to say is that he is against the fact that some people hunt with the purpose of mounting animal heads and the use of their meat is only a byproduct result of that kill since they never felt the real need of having to hunt mainly for their meat. Since they killed the animal for their head (or just for the sake of killing) they are like "why not use the meat too since its there?"
It is also a matter of ethics I think
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Eiksirf on October 03, 2006, 03:40:21 PM
I hunt for the thrill of murdering things.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Titan on October 03, 2006, 03:41:11 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
I think what he was trying to say is that he is against the fact that some people hunt with the purpose of mounting animal heads and the use of their meat is only a byproduct result of that kill since they never felt the real need of having to hunt mainly for their meat. Since they killed the animal for their head (or just for the sake of killing) they are like "why not use the meat too since its there?"
It is also a matter of ethics I think


What\'s wrong with that? The animal is still getting eatten. I\'d hunt for the head but I\'d still eat the meat. Who fucking cares?
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Halberto on October 03, 2006, 10:15:48 PM
Quote from: Titan
Who fucking cares?


Animals do, but it\'s easy to pretend it doesn\'t matter.

1) it\'s considered wussy to defend animals
2) it\'s manly to kill things
3) they are too stupid

It\'s a can\'t beat them, so join them type of thing.

Hunting for sport comes down to this:

all you have to do is point and shoot, and the thrill (for some) of taking a life is set in. There is no arguement from the creature because it can\'t talk back and tell you, I PLAN ON LIVING AND LEAVING YOU ALONE.

It\'s hard to put into words, but it makes me sick sometimes to think that shit like this is what makes humans a plague on this earth. Because we\'re smarter than all other animals we rule, we kill, we ruin everything.


By the way, there is nothing sport like about it. Don\'t kid yourself. A 500lb man can pull a trigger.
Title: some pics of my gun and my carry piece
Post by: Unicron! on October 03, 2006, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: Titan
What\'s wrong with that? The animal is still getting eatten. I\'d hunt for the head but I\'d still eat the meat. Who fucking cares?


Lots of things are wrong. And I care.
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on October 03, 2006, 10:39:51 PM
Quote from: Halberto
Animals do, but it\'s easy to pretend it doesn\'t matter.

1) it\'s considered wussy to defend animals
2) it\'s manly to kill things
3) they are too stupid

It\'s a can\'t beat them, so join them type of thing.

Hunting for sport comes down to this:

all you have to do is point and shoot, and the thrill (for some) of taking a life is set in. There is no arguement from the creature because it can\'t talk back and tell you, I PLAN ON LIVING AND LEAVING YOU ALONE.

It\'s hard to put into words, but it makes me sick sometimes to think that shit like this is what makes humans a plague on this earth. Because we\'re smarter than all other animals we rule, we kill, we ruin everything.


By the way, there is nothing sport like about it. Don\'t kid yourself. A 500lb man can pull a trigger.



it\'s called.... wait for it........






















...the food chain.


get over it..

You think a lion stops to ask its prey if it gives a fuck about death?
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 03, 2006, 10:52:44 PM
theres a big difference between hunting and gathering and hunting for sport

im with halberto...whenever i see cross the hick channel and i see these hunting guys, i want to kick them in the nuts.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 04, 2006, 12:13:48 AM
You know under such occasions I feel that people are actually dumber than animals. We are smart enough to build things, create art etc but we retarded enough to destroy the ecosystem, nature and force our "intelligence" and strength unto helpless animals for no apparent reason.

Animals dont kill uncontrollably. They kill only to survive and they automatically follow the rules and balance of the ecosystem.

Some of the animals even have more morals than us humans. I saw in Discovery or National Geographic once about wolves and I was impressed by the fact that despite that a wolf was hungry it let a gerbil live only because it seemed stabborn and it was insisting to fight for its life against the wolf when it clearly had no chances against him. The wolf didnt seem to enjoy the killing.
On another scene it found an eagle with a broken wing. I was expecting the wolf to kill the eagle since it was an easy pray. Instead the wolf was trying to get a dead animal from the eagle\'s claws. It didnt hurt the bird at all. It fought for a few moments to get the corpse and gave up since it reckognised and respected that the eagle was also a predator like him.
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Post by: mm on October 04, 2006, 03:41:22 AM
or that the eagle could have poked his eyes out at any given time.   a blind wolf is a starving wolf
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Post by: CHIZZY on October 04, 2006, 04:02:14 AM
plus eagles taste nasty, trust me.
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Post by: Halberto on October 04, 2006, 04:03:04 AM
Quote from: §ôµÏG®ïñD
it\'s called.... wait for it........

...the food chain.


get over it..

You think a lion stops to ask its prey if it gives a fuck about death?


No, hunting for FOOD is the food chain. Butcher shops, farms... thats the food chain. Hunting something for the thrill is not the food chain. Do they have science in Australlia or did it die off with Irwin?

By the way, if the lion doesn\'t eat it\'s prey, the lion dies. If the hunter doesn\'t shoot the buck for it\'s antlers, he can go down to burger king.
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Post by: Eiksirf on October 04, 2006, 05:24:57 AM
I hunt with my pickup truck.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 04, 2006, 05:38:17 AM
Quote from: mm
or that the eagle could have poked his eyes out at any given time.   a blind wolf is a starving wolf
I would have agreed with you if that eagle didnt have a broken wing. Oh and gerbils dont poke eyes out
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Post by: CHIZZY on October 04, 2006, 06:14:51 AM
Unicron? Gerbil joke?

Nahh... too easy.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 04, 2006, 06:33:44 AM
Say it
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Post by: CHIZZY on October 04, 2006, 08:28:45 AM
Quote from: Unicron!
I would have agreed with you if that eagle didnt have a broken wing. Oh and gerbils dont poke eyes out, they pleasantly tickle the interior of my colon while I furiously masturbate while thinking about goats.



There, happy? ;):gfight:
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Post by: Blade on October 04, 2006, 08:36:04 AM
His first thread/post in eons, and immediately huge... admittedly cool... pictures of guns and ammo are thrust in our face.

It\'s awkward but still kind of awesome.
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on October 04, 2006, 08:40:15 AM
Quote from: Halberto
No, hunting for FOOD is the food chain. Butcher shops, farms... thats the food chain. Hunting something for the thrill is not the food chain. Do they have science in Australlia or did it die off with Irwin?

By the way, if the lion doesn\'t eat it\'s prey, the lion dies. If the hunter doesn\'t shoot the buck for it\'s antlers, he can go down to burger king.

wtf said i was referring to sport hunting?   don\'t assume what i was talking about.  I was talking about solely hunting for food.  Some people do hunt for food. Some people hunt to kill vermon that damage crops and livestock.  Do they have science in australia!?  What are you? retarded? You must be to ask such a stupid question.
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Post by: clips on October 04, 2006, 08:58:21 AM
well as far as hunting for sport goes,..i think it\'s bulls**t,...i too feel like smackin\' these elmer jay fudd wannabes..that post up with the 8 pointer buck or doe,....yes we need animals for food, but to kill to them for sport in that manner?...some of those guys are just on a power trip.....alot of exotic animals are going extinct and alot of them are because of such brutal killings.....ahhh, but i will admit that i too used to have a guilty pleasure of senseless killing, aye living in the projects of newark,nj i used to revel in the guilty pleasure every time i would hear the mouse trap snap!...every time that thing would go off, it would put a smile on my face knowing that there was one less rodent in the apt....:fro:
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Post by: CHIZZY on October 04, 2006, 10:01:23 AM
exotic animals are in no way going extinct from recreational hunting. They are going extinct from human population encroachment and poaching by native cultures. Take for instance Africa. If certain cultures could learn that if you\'re in crowded, festering villages and slums, then you shouldn\'t keep spitting out kids every 10 months. Then these exotic animals would not be crowded off of their habitats and being eaten.  

Hunting deer is a necessity around here where herd control is important. If people keep wanting to expand into the rural areas and turn them into suburbs, then if you don\'t want to hit a deer with your car every night then you gotta take out a sizeable portion of the herd. Also, deer are more prolific at reproduction than the food supply can sustain. There are more deer in NY state now than in the 1800\'s. Why? Because all the predators have been driven out. Something\'s gotta take their place.
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Post by: Knotter8 on October 04, 2006, 10:29:00 AM
For the people who like guns & hunting :

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.planetnintendo.com%2Fthewarpzone%2Fboxes%2Fduckhunt.jpg&hash=850aab73791cf52bda4f7778485170da16413814)

There ! The ultimate shooting satisfaction.
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Post by: luckee on October 04, 2006, 12:06:07 PM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.broeswillems.nl%2Fphp%2Fimages%2FNES-Gumshoe.jpg&hash=f63e92814e48a38a1b7843ea4689e826a2e7f50f)
i prefered that instead :)
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Post by: Eiksirf on October 04, 2006, 01:15:50 PM
Gumshoe was my least favorite.

Wild Gunman, GOTCHA: The Sport, Duck Hunt and, to a lesser extent, Hogan\'s Alley FTW
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Post by: Titan on October 04, 2006, 04:42:41 PM
Quote from: Halberto
Animals do, but it\'s easy to pretend it doesn\'t matter.

1) it\'s considered wussy to defend animals
2) it\'s manly to kill things
3) they are too stupid

It\'s a can\'t beat them, so join them type of thing.

Hunting for sport comes down to this:

all you have to do is point and shoot, and the thrill (for some) of taking a life is set in. There is no arguement from the creature because it can\'t talk back and tell you, I PLAN ON LIVING AND LEAVING YOU ALONE.

It\'s hard to put into words, but it makes me sick sometimes to think that shit like this is what makes humans a plague on this earth. Because we\'re smarter than all other animals we rule, we kill, we ruin everything.


By the way, there is nothing sport like about it. Don\'t kid yourself. A 500lb man can pull a trigger.


I don\'t think they\'ll care when they are instantly killed by a bullet. When I fire a rifle, I don\'t miss.

You keep missing the point that most people who hunt FUCKING EAT THE FUCKING MEAT.
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on October 04, 2006, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Titan
I don\'t think they\'ll care when they are instantly killed by a bullet. When I fire a rifle, I don\'t miss.

You keep missing the point that most people who hunt FUCKING EAT THE FUCKING MEAT.


but the eating of the meat isnt the main reason people hunt. the sport hunters we\'re talking about at least. Its just icing on the cake. If u killed it out of survival, then its different.
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Post by: Titan on October 04, 2006, 04:53:49 PM
I have a story to tell about the ecosystem in my town because there WAS NO sport hunting for a while. Sport hunting died out for a bit. The deer population exploded. Its still pretty high. But the deer population got so out of control that there was no food and every deer you saw was scrawny and diseased looking. The local towns had to HIRE SHARPSHOOTERS because there were no sport hunters killing the deer to BALANCE OUT THE ECOSYSTEM. They ended up shooting the deer and leaving them because they couldn\'t even be butchered for meat. The deer absolutely suffered horrible starvation. They absolutely suffered and you could tell. I know first hand about sport hunting because I live in a town where its necessary for the balance of the ecosystem. So don\'t tell me to shut the fuck up and that I don\'t know what I\'m talking about and that sport hunting does nothing. Hunters help to balance out the ecosystem of a lot of areas.

My town is very mountainous. I like it. Its quiet and I like the deer. However, I\'ve almost been killed in my car because I almost hit deer on several occasions. The problem I see is that there arne\'t enough hunters. The population got so out of control, a couple years ago the town next to mine again hired sharpshooters to kill the deer to balance everything out. So next time you say sport hunters do nothing, think about the stupid shit you say because you obviously have no idea what your talking about.
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Post by: Titan on October 04, 2006, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
Lots of things are wrong. And I care.


I take it you eat meat, right? Lets say you do. How is having some butcher go after a cow with a knife any different than you stalking a deer and shooting it yourself (and might I add that success is not always guarenteed on every hunting trip) then cutting it up for meat? How different is it? It isn\'t. The only difference is you shoot it yourself instead of having some other guy butcher the shit out of it. Besides, have you ever seen or heard about what happens to animals and the suffering in slaughterhouses? They feel a hell of a lot more pain in there and are put through much more suffering than a quick shot to the head.
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Post by: clips on October 04, 2006, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: CHIZZY
exotic animals are in no way going extinct from recreational hunting. They are going extinct from human population encroachment and poaching by native cultures. Take for instance Africa. If certain cultures could learn that if you\'re in crowded, festering villages and slums, then you shouldn\'t keep spitting out kids every 10 months. Then these exotic animals would not be crowded off of their habitats and being eaten.  

Hunting deer is a necessity around here where herd control is important. If people keep wanting to expand into the rural areas and turn them into suburbs, then if you don\'t want to hit a deer with your car every night then you gotta take out a sizeable portion of the herd. Also, deer are more prolific at reproduction than the food supply can sustain. There are more deer in NY state now than in the 1800\'s. Why? Because all the predators have been driven out. Something\'s gotta take their place.



i used to hear that argument all the time when i used to live in jersey as far as the deer population goes,...every now and then local gov\'t\'s would encourage the local townsfolk to hunt deer for population control,..stating that if it wasn\'t stymied that it would cause a rabies epidemic and all other kinds of deadly disease breakout....which i skeptically believe with one eyebrow up.....i personally think that it\'s humans in general that are moving into the deers and other wildlife living space,....i used to hear alot of stories of people seein\' black bears in their back yards in jersey...why? these animals have no where else to go...

i don\'t think there\'s alot of new home building goin on in jersey, but i do know that buliding a new strip mall is the latest fad up there,... alot of the heavily wooded area\'s are being taken away and these animals simply have nowhere else to go...not just in jersey,this is goin\' on everywhere. i understand people need places to live, but in some instances the removal of these wooded area\'s seems excessive, and to kill off certain animals because of it, seems a little unfair....
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Post by: Titan on October 04, 2006, 05:14:41 PM
Quote from: clips
i used to hear that argument all the time when i used to live in jersey as far as the deer population goes,...every now and then local gov\'t\'s would encourage the local townsfolk to hunt deer for population control,..stating that if it wasn\'t stymied that it would cause a rabies epidemic and all other kinds of deadly disease breakout....which i skeptically believe with one eyebrow up.....i personally think that it\'s humans in general that are moving into the deers and other wildlife living space,....i used to hear alot of stories of people seein\' black bears in their back yards in jersey...why? these animals have no where else to go...

i don\'t think there\'s alot of new home building goin on in jersey, but i do know that buliding a new strip mall is the latest fad up there,... alot of the heavily wooded area\'s are being taken away and these animals simply have nowhere else to go...not just in jersey,this is goin\' on everywhere. i understand people need places to live, but in some instances the removal of these wooded area\'s seems excessive, and to kill off certain animals because of it, seems a little unfair....


You do have a point about the development and that is true. But deer numbers are growing. They are populating more because of development and less predators to kill them. With the predators gone along with development then the deer spitting out more babies, it creates one hell of a problem.
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Post by: theomen on October 04, 2006, 05:36:17 PM
animals will self regulate, pretty much the only animal that will grow beyond what the eco system can support is human beings.  Also, hunting defeats Darwinism.  When you go hunting, do you pick off the weak and small deer, no you go for the 8 point buck, thus defeating the whole idea of survival of the fittest.
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Post by: Titan on October 04, 2006, 05:45:28 PM
Quote from: theomen
animals will self regulate, pretty much the only animal that will grow beyond what the eco system can support is human beings.  Also, hunting defeats Darwinism.  When you go hunting, do you pick off the weak and small deer, no you go for the 8 point buck, thus defeating the whole idea of survival of the fittest.


Yeah but by that time you would hope that the 8 point buck did his share of pimping before you shot him :p
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Post by: luckee on October 04, 2006, 07:48:51 PM
Quote from: Eiksirf
Gumshoe was my least favorite.

Wild Gunman, GOTCHA: The Sport, Duck Hunt and, to a lesser extent, Hogan\'s Alley FTW


I couldn\'t think of the name..but yeah..hogans alley was the shit!!!! Thats the one where you had to shoot the crooks and not the random civilians right?
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Post by: CHIZZY on October 05, 2006, 04:01:01 AM
Quote from: theomen
animals will self regulate, pretty much the only animal that will grow beyond what the eco system can support is human beings.  Also, hunting defeats Darwinism.  When you go hunting, do you pick off the weak and small deer, no you go for the 8 point buck, thus defeating the whole idea of survival of the fittest.


Most of the animals taken are female. Why? the bigger, stronger smarter bucks are too wily, hence they tend to live on. The young, stupid bucks get thinned. There\'s your survival of the fittest, hippy. ;)

And defeating Darwinism? Who\'s to say we aren\'t part of the process?
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Post by: Unicron! on October 05, 2006, 04:26:04 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
Most of the animals taken are female. Why? the bigger, stronger smarter bucks are too wily, hence they tend to live on. The young, stupid bucks get thinned. There\'s your survival of the fittest, hippy. ;)

And defeating Darwinism? Who\'s to say we aren\'t part of the process?

Actually its the opposite. Males are usully the most victims. In the animal kingdom its usually the males that have the most vivid colors and thus they are the easiest and the most attractive for the predators to take.

And the same counts for humans hunting animals. They tend to hunt the  most beautiful. Usually they are the males. Also see bull fighting.

Survival of the fittest? Not necessarilly. Especially with humans killing animals when clearly in a jungle we have no chance surviving against lots of these animals
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Post by: Eiksirf on October 05, 2006, 04:53:33 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
Most of the animals taken are female.  

That\'s hot.
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Post by: Titan on October 05, 2006, 08:22:10 AM
Quote from: Unicron!
Actually its the opposite. Males are usully the most victims. In the animal kingdom its usually the males that have the most vivid colors and thus they are the easiest and the most attractive for the predators to take.

And the same counts for humans hunting animals. They tend to hunt the  most beautiful. Usually they are the males. Also see bull fighting.

Survival of the fittest? Not necessarilly. Especially with humans killing animals when clearly in a jungle we have no chance surviving against lots of these animals


Yeah but some animals, the alpha male is the only one that procreates so the other males don\'t matter.
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Post by: theomen on October 05, 2006, 11:15:07 AM
^^
Hence Titan has no chance of getting laid ;)
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Post by: Titan on October 05, 2006, 11:19:52 AM
Quote from: theomen
^^
Hence Titan has no chance of getting laid ;)


That\'s because of you. You steal all the fine looking does away from me :( I\'m challenging you to a fight to be the alpha. My horn\'s bigger than yours.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 06, 2006, 12:10:18 AM
Quote from: Titan
Yeah but some animals, the alpha male is the only one that procreates so the other males don\'t matter.

It depends. The "alpha" male is just as vulnerable as the other males. When that male dies, it will be replaced by the next male. The problem is if we think that the other males dont matter, they actually do, because the second, third, forth and so on male are potential replacements for it if it dies.

Also we humans since we dont have to deal against a strong animal(that could be an alpha male) lets say a deer with our natural abilities, we can kill a stronger animal than us which is more capable at surviving than us in a natural enviroment. Even a fat retard with sick genes can kill a bull or a deer with a gun or poison.
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Post by: CHIZZY on October 06, 2006, 04:04:02 AM
I only hunt with bazookas.
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Post by: Luke on October 07, 2006, 06:20:23 PM
I only hunt Bazookas.