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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: on December 04, 2000, 05:20:01 PM
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ok there has been a moderate amount of a hype like buzz going around about this indreama thin supposedly better than Xbox or PS2
here is my view
for some reason when i was on the site looking at the pictures and reading stats it reminded me of one thing......
JAGUAR!!
I dont know why it does but it does and frankly its starting to bring back some bad memories
i think it has potential but it will never get off the ground
i can sense it now somewhat of a saturn relapse maybe
few developers and **** games
its sad really it is....
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indreama does not stand a chance. Sega has its great arcade style software, low price internet and head start, Sony has unparaleded third party support, Nintendo has its huge internal development teams to carry the Gamecube as a competitor and MS has money, familiar PC environments, great American developer support and a powrful system to go on. What does indreama have?
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indreama has nothing
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I don\'t think it stands a chance. It\'s going to have too much trouble getting support from developers who allready have 4 strong consoles to choose from. Without initial support it can\'t get the userbase neaded to atract more developers.
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Argh! None of you get it. Indreama is the most original Console in alot of senses. How about a free SDK for you aspiring programmers? There is more. Of course the Indreama does not stand a commercial amount of success, but it is still a novel idea and if a big company was pushing behind it, it would have a huge chance.
You ask what Indreama has? HD/Modem/Web Browser/ FREE SDK which will allow programmers to make games,etc. I am going to buy one and growing closer to maybe opening my own Idreama site, seeing as no place on the web is giving fair and dedicated coverage to the console. Oh yeah, and it has LINUX as the OS!
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I visited the Indrema site a while ago and I have to say, sounds quite damn interesting :)
I even memorized the URL!
http://idn.indrema.com/
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Sounds interesting, h3ll yeah!
Why couldn\'t it be a success? Sony popped out of nowhere while ago with its Playstation and beated Sega\'s Saturn by ease.
Again, it\'s about games. I hope it isn\'t about reputation ( but it looks like it is. Finland is land of reputation, I gotta say ;))
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Originally posted by Joyda
Sounds interesting, h3ll yeah!
Why couldn\'t it be a success? Sony popped out of nowhere while ago with its Playstation and beated Sega\'s Saturn by ease.
Again, it\'s about games. I hope it isn\'t about reputation ( but it looks like it is. Finland is land of reputation, I gotta say ;))
It can\'t succeed for various reasons.
- (1) Lack of commercial developer support. I say commercial, because the free SDK kit could easily make it a cult hit with aspiring game developers and hobby programmers.
- The company simply does not have enough press support either. How many magazines are even mentioning the Indreama? How many fan sites? Anything? No. not really.
- The company simply does not have enough money to go all out on a marketing blitz. The public won\'t even be aware of the system.
- They are going up against a total of 4 systems. 4 big companies with massive developer support. 4 companies will games that are excellent.
They list just keeps going on. But, I must say I\'m extremely excited about the console. And in my opinion, its the biggest "step-up" and evolution for consoles.
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Maybe you\'re right, Living-In-Clip.
I\'ve seen a small article about Indreama-console in one mag!
So, the console should start huge ad-campaign or something; and very little is known about this "mysterious" console anyways.
Has it got lots of 3rd party developers?
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Originally posted by Joyda
Maybe you\'re right, Living-In-Clip.
I\'ve seen a small article about Indreama-console in one mag!
So, the console should start huge ad-campaign or something; and very little is known about this "mysterious" console anyways.
Has it got lots of 3rd party developers?
The company simply does not have enough money for a huge marketing blitz. As for third party developers. Not sure how many are signed and who. Apparently not alot nor big companies. The bright side about the system is the free SDK (software development kit). So, software party support, is really anyone who is interested in the console and programming .
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i read spmewhere a total of 4 devolopers or something like that its not a hue number and things just arent looking good
i would not be suprised if this project gets canned for somereason or another when the company realizes they will be(and are) forgotten in console warfare
true sony came out of nowhere but look what reputation sony had before playstation in the technology market with cd players and such it wouldnt suprise me if microsoft did not do the same sony did but i dont believe they will from my own experiences with microsoft products
that is possibly why i am running linux now not windows
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They have not announced how many developers are signed on to develop for the system, so its pure rumour on the number. I doubt if it gets canned, but system life won\'t last long either. I will buy one, I\'m postive of that. The system, specfiction wise and such is alot more impressive then of the other commercial systems, such as the PS2. But, oh well. Its a still-born console.
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Indreama? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
that is the funniest thing i heard all day!!! thanks for cheering me up guyz!
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Originally posted by zip77
Indreama? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
that is the funniest thing i heard all day!!! thanks for cheering me up guyz!
Laugh. Sure. Go ahead. But what other console is giving away the SDK to public users? That is a huge step, that other console\'s should take, but haven\'t. Kudos to the Indreama company for having the guts to do it.
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Originally posted by zip77
Indreama? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
that is the funniest thing i heard all day!!! thanks for cheering me up guyz!
Why are you laughing about Indrema?
Can you tell me any other console that:
- it\'s GPU is upgradable?
- has a built-in 4 controller ports?
- has a built-in Direct Internet Access?
- has FREE SDK?
- has supports for independent developers?
All bigger [name] consoles don\'t have these..
So what\'s to laugh about Indreama? Nothing..
I think Indreama is fine example for how "expandable" and how "portable" a console must be.. What\'s wrong with a console that is running on a OpenSource Kernel? Which [big name] console can run emulators for other console platforms? I think more the question would be WHEN the big companies are going to think about these cost pressing points. Untill then don\'t laugh about Pioneers.. don\'t forget that pioneers designed plans for today\'s best selling consoles almost 10 years ago...
D^R
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you don\'t get it! the name "indreama" sounds like my 200-year old grandma just went into the hospital under code blue surgery for ****ting herself funny.
my second point is, "free SDK" is because if it sold the SDK then it would die out faster than it already is dying, but major companies such as microsoft or sony can sell the SDK, and take note that EVERY PRODUCER with the exception of nintendo, sega and microsoft is making games for ps2 even though the SDK must cost ****loads of cash. Whilst on the other hand, arthritis grandpa is producing for your lovely little "grandma ****" console. Oh im sorry, did i insult it?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
[Edited by zip77 on 12-30-2000 at 03:35 PM]
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Originally posted by zip77
you don\'t get it! the name "indreama" sounds like my 200-year old grandma just went into the hospital under code blue surgery for ****ting herself funny.
my second point is, "free SDK" is because if it sold the SDK then it would die out faster than it already is dying, but major companies such as microsoft or sony can sell the SDK, and take note that EVERY PRODUCER with the exception of nintendo, sega and microsoft is making games for ps2 even though the SDK must cost ****loads of cash. Whilst on the other hand, arthritis grandpa is producing for your lovely little "grandma ****" console. Oh im sorry, did i insult it?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
[Edited by zip77 on 12-30-2000 at 03:35 PM]
It is almost funny how un-educated you are. Judge a console by its name? Gee..
And the SDK is free for multi-reasons. It will attract software geeks, it will allow the users to get a taste of the SDK, and it is OPEN SOURCE.
And what the hell are you smoking? Every Producer is making games for the PS2? Uhm. No they\'re not. Alot are. But not every developer. And the Indreama is multi-functional. It is not just a game console. Hell, it shouldn\'t even be placed in the leagues as a game console. It is more a small computer for a cheaper price, if anything.
You obviously need to read more and get the notion that the PS2 is the only system out there, out of your head.
I\'m with Daemon on this one. Indreama is pioneers. They are doing things that wasn\'t expected in the game industry. The system is the most original of all of them.
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god, some people are so stupid, especially Living-In-Clip cuz he\'s protecting my gran\'s s**t with his life.
THE BIG SILVER-METALLIC S**TPILE IS DEAD ALREADY!
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Originally posted by zip77
god, some people are so stupid, especially Living-In-Clip cuz he\'s protecting my gran\'s s**t with his life.
THE BIG SILVER-METALLIC S**TPILE IS DEAD ALREADY!
Protecting? No.
Did I argue that it was still-born? No.
Did I even say it was? Yes.
This whole thread, I stated the system had no chance. Did you even bother to read any of the thread? Probally not.
Oh yeah, that sounds like I\'m protecting it.
:rolleyes:
But unlike some, I give every console a chance, and I will buy an Indreama, right along side my GC and Xbox. I will have no problem putting it next to my PS2 or DC.
I\'m not so biased and plain stupid to look over the fact that the Indreama is bringing alot of original concepts to the industry. I\'m postive if it was some big company doing it, people would go, "Wow, what a novel concept!". Its not though, so close minded or biased people just pass the concept off, as stupid.
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Zip , listen i am a PS2 fan ... but what the hell are you talking about , they didnt say anything like " Indrema is so much better then PS2" all they said was they thought it was cool and they would buy it . your just bashing the indrema because you dont like the name???? im not gonna get indreama but im not acting like a little kid about it.
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To show everyone the intelligence and maturity level of zip77 I shall post the private message that he sent me.
just read
people are right about the - err - ****cube, i mean crapcube, i mean pisscube, i mean gaycube. you get the point - It SUX so much it HURTS
Ignore him.And why havent you replied to my pm zipper?
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You know there is something wrong with fellow PS2 fans admit your acting like a child..
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INDREMA WILL DO GOOD IF IT HAS AT LEAT 40 TITTLES ON LAUNCH
AND NOT TO DEAR AT LAUNCH
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Originally posted by CLOWNBOW
INDREMA WILL DO GOOD IF IT HAS AT LEAT 40 TITTLES ON LAUNCH
AND NOT TO DEAR AT LAUNCH
40 titles?
What the hell? How do you expect 40 games?
And what is with this "AND NOT TO DEAR AT LAUNCH"?
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Indreama. I went to the site and there was nothing about games - something called GameXchange there was but nothing about big game developers etc.
I think Indreama isn\'t going to be a serious gaming console. I think it\'s something else. But what? I don\'t know.
Hmmm... this is like Ericsson making a handheld. :)
But I give the "console" a chance. It it truly is what it promises... But like Living-in-Clip said the company doesn\'t have money. Well how they\'re going to buy game licenses then? Or Game Developers? If they can\'t afford advertizing... the future of this "console" is doomed.
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i know most of you guyz wont believe me about this but i didn\'t post that earlier stuff about indreama. You see, my brother and i share the same account since Here in the middle east, the registration for the boards is blocked now (not allowed) and since i have made an accound already, i let my bro use it too. so some of the posts are not mine (but now my brother\'s grounded anyway :laughing: ). So, please believe me cuz I SWEAR it was not me. thank you to whoever believes me even though i see no reason for anyone to do that.
and remember this: i like ALL consoles!
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Originally posted by zip77
i know most of you guyz wont believe me about this but i didn\'t post that earlier stuff about indreama. You see, my brother and i share the same account since Here in the middle east, the registration for the boards is blocked now (not allowed) and since i have made an accound already, i let my bro use it too. so some of the posts are not mine (but now my brother\'s grounded anyway :laughing: ). So, please believe me cuz I SWEAR it was not me. thank you to whoever believes me even though i see no reason for anyone to do that.
and remember this: i like ALL consoles!
Its fine man. I believe you. Your brother needs a leash though. I think he has rabies or something man.:D
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guys,why would a company with so little financial support waste their money on a console?Seriosuly,think about it.
They have little money and if they knew they will float belly up why would they even bother?
They MUST have something up their sleeve.Maybe they will even succeed PS2(yeah right) or gamecube.Xbox is a show off system and they want people to think they are "cool" so they keep yacking about their "developers list".
Inderma must have something serious going. ;)
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Originally posted by OHMYGOD
guys,why would a company with so little financial support waste their money on a console?Seriosuly,think about it.
They have little money and if they knew they will float belly up why would they even bother?
They MUST have something up their sleeve.Maybe they will even succeed PS2(yeah right) or gamecube.Xbox is a show off system and they want people to think they are "cool" so they keep yacking about their "developers list".
Inderma must have something serious going. ;)
CDI-JAGUAR-ETC.. Failed consoles that was doomed from the start. Welcome the Indreama to this land .
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I don\'t think the people at lenix or inderma whatever are stupid.They seem to know what they are up against.
Jaguar and the rest were in the 8-16 bit era and maybe those companies underestimated nintendo and sega.
But these console wars are to the death.And Inderma knows that.I may be wrong but it\'s just what I think,Living in Clip.
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they asked a millionaire, if you lose all your money, and have 10,000 dollars left, what would you do? so he answered i would make a project for $1000 and advertise for $9000.
although that millionaire is weird because he didn\'t think about taxes, bills, food etc. but i bet indreama has something like that prepared
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Indreama... doomed from the start... I agree.
3do was one example, so was Jaguar. Now, Jaguar was easily the most powerful console of its time and sure it did fail big time... why? Graphics don\'t count; it\'s the name and the money put into it. Microsoft for instance has a big name and rep. and the console sells because of that...
Indreama is so new for name and console that I think it\'ll not be a success...
but hey, is it really going to be a gaming-console or something more?
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Originally posted by OHMYGOD
I don\'t think the people at lenix or inderma whatever are stupid.They seem to know what they are up against.
Jaguar and the rest were in the 8-16 bit era and maybe those companies underestimated nintendo and sega.
But these console wars are to the death.And Inderma knows that.I may be wrong but it\'s just what I think,Living in Clip.
They may know what they are up against. But so did the other companies. They don\'t have the money to offer commercials during the superbowl. They don\'t have the mass developer support from huge companies,etc.
Its doomed.
But its also an extremely exciting console.:)
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its going to be like Nuon/Project X, it\'ll never be released
the concept of the console is very good, it\'s just the " brand name" and reputation that kills it.