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Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on November 19, 2006, 05:56:30 AM
I braved the cold for 8 hours, was #41 out of 80.  Total purchase included:


Will post impressions later.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Samwise on November 19, 2006, 06:03:41 AM
I always knew you wanted wee, Hurricane.

Good luck with it. :)
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on November 19, 2006, 07:04:27 AM
Just played Wii-sports Baseball... very true to your motions.  Visually nothing special, but I do feel like I was playing baseball.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on November 19, 2006, 07:05:15 AM
I was watching some people play the Tennis game at my local mall today.

Looked pretty fucking boring.

The girls who were there to supervise were hot as shit, though. Hotter, in fact.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Unicron! on November 19, 2006, 08:08:54 AM
Share some impressions will you?

Do you think its worth it?
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Titan on November 19, 2006, 10:38:35 AM
No one cares that you got the Wii ;)

Cool that you got it. Share some impressions :) I\'m really considering getting it at the first price drop (not getting it now since I\'m saving for PS3 at the moment) maybe even before. Well whenever I have the money, I\'m totally getting it.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on November 19, 2006, 11:04:11 AM
Impressions...

Decent Launch titles + Unique Gameplay = Fun

Definitely worth $250 especially when you factor in that Zelda is launched with the system.  Nintendo did a nice job with this package.  I don\'t think it will last as long as the other two consoles, but its got something good going right now.  If you prefer gameplay over graphics, this is the way to go.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Unicron! on November 19, 2006, 01:44:45 PM
But ius the gameplay any better or just different from what we can get from other consoles?
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on November 19, 2006, 02:24:52 PM
So far I\'ve played Wii Sports the most. Boxing is kind of awkward, but the rest are great. Both my parents played golf and my mom liked everything. She beat me in bowling. Golf is my favorite. It has courses from the NES game Golf.

Then I tried Zelda for about 40 minutes and it was god awful. It looked like shit. There was nothing at all to draw me into any kind of story so far. And what\'s worse - and this is so unlike Nintendo - is that it has stuck me with some menial objective (get a cat) and no instruction as to how. I can\'t pick it up, herding it seems impossible. I tried to get an owl to carry it... nope. I threw a friggin pumpkin at it too. The controls for walking are God awful too. All you have to do is move the thumbstick, but Link makes every turn wide. I\'ll have to try 3 or 4 times walking next to and into a ladder before he finally climbs up. I\'ve never been so disappointed initially with a first party Nintendo game. I hope to God it gets better. It has to. I just don\'t know how long I can stand playing to find out.

Then I tried Monkey Ball. I beat the first 8 levels and that was pretty been-there, done-that. Then I tried a few of the 50 minigames and pretty much hated what I tried. Maybe Zelda killed my mood.

I dunno, but right now I wish I had just got the system and Wii Sports. I would\'ve saved like $300.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Luke on November 19, 2006, 02:50:31 PM
Thats weird, Zelda is getting some pretty good reviews.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: cloud345 on November 19, 2006, 03:13:11 PM
Ya....seems sort of weird considering this is being called the best Zelda ever.

Im probably not going to get the Wii until christmas, PS3 came first and both would have been a little expensive at the same time.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on November 19, 2006, 04:35:33 PM
I played some more golf and tennis. Tried Excitetruck. It\'s average, but it\'s fun. A good use of the remote. Pretty fun. And I bet it\'s hard as hell. I made it through the beginner\'s cup relatively easily, though.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Echo on November 19, 2006, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: Eiksirf
And what\'s worse - and this is so unlike Nintendo - is that it has stuck me with some menial objective (get a cat) and no instruction as to how.

That\'s very much like in other Zelda games, actually. In Ocarina of Time after being sent forward in time seven whole years you were told to go to Kakariko village. That\'s it. You had to figure out on your own what exactly you were supposed to do there (figure out that Dampe had died, go to the graveyard, figure out that you could move the gravestones with flowers above them, find Dampe in the cave below his grave and race him for the hookshot (which you needed to get into the Forest Temple)).
And there were times when you weren\'t even told where you were supposed to go. Zelda\'s all about exploration, it\'s one of the series\' staples (sp?).

And the solution to the cat puzzle, in case you haven\'t figured it out yet, is to find the monkey with the cradle (down the river, up on a big rock). Call a hawk and send it at the monkey to get the cradle. Give the cradle to the pregnant lady to get the fishing pole, then go to where the cat is and do some fishing. Give the cat a fish and then you can finally buy the slingshot.


And by the way, all Zelda games have a slow start. It\'ll get much more exciting and fun later on.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Blade on November 20, 2006, 04:15:40 AM
Yeah, Eik. Yes, the graphics are Wii-k. It\'s a GameCube title on the damned Wii. :)

My advice is to push forward in Zelda until at least after the first dungeon and then give us some more impressions. ;)
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on November 20, 2006, 04:27:19 AM
Will do. I had seen that monkey but thought I couldn\'t get him til I had the slingshot.
 
Graphically, though, I don\'t remember Gamecube being so ugly, heh.
 
I have S-Video for the Cube, maybe that helps hide it. Plus, Link looks like such a homo, at least at the beginning of the game, heh. It\'s hard to watch. But I\'ll give it another go.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Blade on November 20, 2006, 04:37:25 AM
I totally agree on the "geez, GCN never looked this bad" comment.

That was my reaction when I first saw it!

But, compare with Wave Race or any other seminal \'Cube title and Zelda:TP looks at least par.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Jumpman on November 20, 2006, 05:52:40 AM
I\'m disregarding Eik\'s opinions about the new Zelda. Guy couldn\'t even beat Link To The Past. He must be Zelda handicapped.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on November 20, 2006, 07:00:56 AM
Heh, for the record I played and enjoyed and finished Link\'s Awakening and Ocarina of Time. I think I also beat the original, but I\'m not sure.
 
The game is just so retread every time that it gets boring. I need a break in between or I give up. I\'m almost ready to give up on this one, but I\'m going to keep at it.
 
My impressions are still so early on that it\'s not fair to judge the game, but at this point I\'d say it\'s overhyped. People should at least mention the control and while the Wii is no Xbox 360, the graphics are distractingly ugly. I would\'ve much preferred Wind Waker to what I\'ve seen so far in the first village. This is nothing like the Link vs Ganandorf fight scene showed back in, what, 2000?
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on November 20, 2006, 09:35:03 AM
Eik... if you have the inputs, spend the $30 and get the component cables for Wii.  Won\'t give you Hi-Def, but it will give you a resolution boost.  They will become widey available sometime in December.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on November 20, 2006, 09:37:45 AM
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/20/new-wii-owners-your-impressions/#comments

Other user\'s impressions for those of you who care.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on November 20, 2006, 11:15:46 AM
Yeah, I\'m holding out for S-Video. I have component inputs in the back of my tv, but I am not about to go fumbling around with the inputs every time I switch to Xbox 360 and back. The composite input is on the side of the set and is very accessible. I\'m going to live with it. 480p isn\'t enticing enough for my trouble.
 
On another set, I absolutely would get the component cables.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on November 20, 2006, 06:28:20 PM
Echo I did what you said and got past that part. Figured out the next series of events and got to try out the sword play finally which makes things a lot more immersive. So things are looking up finally. I made my way to the first mini-dungeon area, if you can call it that and I saved right before heading out to Hyrule for the first time.

So I\'m finally getting sucked in, about 2 hours into the game. Things are going a lot better than yesterday, although walking is still a bit clunky and swordfighting doesn\'t always work exactly like you\'d like, although I see that they limited the spin move for balance, so I understand.

Still haven\'t tried Trauma Center or Red Steel. But I did play some more Wii Sports. Boxed my dad today and played bowling with the whole family. My coworkers brought it up today and asked me to bring it in tomorrow. So we\'re gonna get some tennis going on at work!
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Titan on November 20, 2006, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: Eiksirf
Yeah, I\'m holding out for S-Video. I have component inputs in the back of my tv, but I am not about to go fumbling around with the inputs every time I switch to Xbox 360 and back. The composite input is on the side of the set and is very accessible. I\'m going to live with it. 480p isn\'t enticing enough for my trouble.
 
On another set, I absolutely would get the component cables.


Don\'t they make hubs where you can plug in multiple component consoles at once but on the same inputs? This way you can just flip a switch.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on November 21, 2006, 04:17:52 AM
That\'s actually a great idea. I might go that route.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Blade on November 21, 2006, 02:20:11 PM
For a good one, they\'re expensive. $100.

And duh, the game is more immersive with the sword? No kidding. :)

The game doesn\'t really start until you\'re finished with the initial Twilight Realm section.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Viper_Fujax on November 21, 2006, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: Eiksirf
That\'s actually a great idea. I might go that route.


if im thinking of the right thing, be careful with what you buy. When my brother bought an xbox, i thought itd be awesome to buy this thing that you could plug the xbox, dvd, ps2, and something else into it, press the button and it would switch to whichever one you wanted to play.

moral of the story..it was a piece of shit and didnt work
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Nolaws on November 21, 2006, 05:53:18 PM
I use one like that , but it is for old plugs. It has 5 inputs (I use for VCR, NES, SNES and N64). The output is either RCA or S-video.. which is great since I can keep all my old console plugged.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Sara on November 30, 2006, 01:08:32 PM
I\'m a hell of a lot more interested in a Wii than a PS3 at this moment.  Do you guys think it will hold an adult gamer\'s interest?  Wii sports sounds good but I have a feeling the novelty will wear off and I\'m not a big zelda fan.  Do you think there will be 30-70 hour games that will be worthwhile?  I guess for $250 I\'m not risking a lot, but I don\'t want to waste my money, either.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: GmanJoe on November 30, 2006, 03:33:37 PM
Wii Sports is getting all the accolades right now. Zelda is nice....but it\'s not for everyone.

Call of Duty 3 - I didn\'t care for it. You\'d think that pointing the wiimote at the target would be simple. But it\'s not. It\'s more like you\'re "leading" the cross hair to the target.

GT Pro Series for Wii is an embarrassment. Not sure what Nintendo was thinking by porting that piece of crap.

Zelda and Monkey Ball and  Wii Sports is about the best games for the Wii right now. I haven\'t read the reviews on Trauma -Second Opinion.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Echo on November 30, 2006, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: GmanJoe
GT Pro Series for Wii is an embarrassment. Not sure what Ubisoft was thinking by porting that piece of crap.


Corrected.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on December 01, 2006, 05:37:03 AM
Do not get Monkey Ball. The main game is old by now and the multiplayer mini games suck. I\'ve heard Rayman is much better in that regard.
 
Trauma Center I\'ve played enough to give impressions - and basically, it\'s quirky fun for play in short bursts. Definitely more of a handheld (Nintendo DS) style game, but it\'s fun.
 
As for 30 - 70 hour games, Nintendo systems typically don\'t get RPGs so for quality games, the only options on the horizon might be Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3. And those will likely weigh in on the shorter end of your scale.
 
I believe there is a Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles game in the works with a modified play style from the crappy first outing.
 
And there is a Dragon Quest game but I think it\'s some kind of action spin-off.
 
Third party support is looking pretty weak moving forward.
 
There are a couple dark horses for further on down the line such as Disaster: Day of Crisis and Sadness.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: GmanJoe on December 01, 2006, 05:37:12 AM
Quote from: Echo
Corrected.


Nintendo approves these things.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on December 01, 2006, 06:00:58 AM
Not like during the NES days, which even then was just like "Pay for the approval stamp."
 
And actually, Red Steel isn\'t broken. It\'s an average game with a new control scheme. It\'s ok.
 
Oh wait, this was about GT Pro Series right? Yeah that one looks like ass, haha.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: GmanJoe on December 01, 2006, 10:06:30 AM
I just read teh review for that Fishing Tournement game for the Wii.

What a flop. Perhaps only Zelda and Wii Sports are the most worthy games for the Wii, so far?

I did say that Call of Duty 3 sucks, right? ;)
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on December 01, 2006, 12:46:13 PM
Most worthy? Definitely. The rest range from bad to above average, with maybe Trauma Center being \'good\' if that\'s your type of game.
 
Looks like slim pickins through the next few months, but Metal Slug Anthology, True Swing Golf, Elebits and Far Cry: Vengeance (giving it the benefit of the doubt) are on their way by year\'s end. I want Golf for sure. That\'s been a blast on Wii Sports.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Sara on December 01, 2006, 01:08:48 PM
It\'s sounding like I should wait until my 15 and 18 year old brothers get the Wii - and go play it with them.

Maybe I should get a PSP.

I kinda feel like I\'m in a good position because there\'s so many good games I haven\'t yet played on PS2 that will be dirt cheap by the time I get around to them.  GT4 is $9.99 for example.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Titan on December 01, 2006, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Sara
It\'s sounding like I should wait until my 15 and 18 year old brothers get the Wii - and go play it with them.

Maybe I should get a PSP.

I kinda feel like I\'m in a good position because there\'s so many good games I haven\'t yet played on PS2 that will be dirt cheap by the time I get around to them.  GT4 is $9.99 for example.


I know what you mean Sara. There are so many PSX and PS2 (and older games too on other systems) that I still want. One day I\'m just gonna go in to Gamestop or something and just get a load of games I\'ve always wanted. I don\'t necessarily have to play them but I can play them when I get the chance though.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: clips on December 02, 2006, 06:20:50 AM
uhm...*raises hand slowly*....i know this question was probably asked already, but what is the difference between wii and eyetoy? I mean they\'re basically the same right?
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Titan on December 02, 2006, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: clips
uhm...*raises hand slowly*....i know this question was probably asked already, but what is the difference between wii and eyetoy? I mean they\'re basically the same right?


Eyetoy is an addon to the PS2 and Wii is a console put out by Nintendo. Hope that helps ;)
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Echo on December 03, 2006, 01:05:38 PM
Quote from: clips
uhm...*raises hand slowly*....i know this question was probably asked already, but what is the difference between wii and eyetoy? I mean they\'re basically the same right?


How are they anywhere close to the same? They Eytoy is a camera add-on for the PS2 and the Wii is a console that has a controller that can detect motion and tilt as well as detect where it\'s pointing.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on December 04, 2006, 05:21:53 AM
EyeToy is a webcam, basically.
 
Wii is a console with a motion sensing controller. The PS3 has a motion sensing controller as well, but is nothing like the EyeToy.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: clips on December 04, 2006, 08:51:18 AM
^^^titan, echo, eik...thanks :) when eyetoy first came out i never really knew what it was. i generally just saw a bunch of people kinda interacting with the game, so i thought the wii was similar in nature.
Title: Got my Wii
Post by: Eiksirf on December 04, 2006, 09:11:16 AM
You\'re not the first to make that comparison.
 
The EyeToy had some fun minigames with it that had the same effect as Wii. It was easy and fun enough that anyone would give it a try. But the device wasn\'t designed well enough to use a wide variety of software. Some developers tried with a Billy Hatcher game and a Nights game. (OK, I guess just Sega tried).
 
But holding your arms out gets tiring and the camera needed a freaking floodlight to detect a person. It was a cute idea, though, and maybe the PS3 EyeToy will improve on it. They\'ve got some wacky ideas for that thing that include using it to scan playing cards, which sounds too convoluted to be any fun.
 
Meanwhile, Microsoft\'s Xbox Live Vision Cam just uses your photo or a streaming image of the user (or whatever is in front of the camera) for games like Uno. This feature is typically naughty, from what I understand, heh.