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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Unicron! on November 30, 2006, 12:16:18 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVv_cH2iKlY
The first parts are impressive but we are already pretty familiar with these.
The craziest techniques and the things I want you to see are the last parts of this video.
The man is literally unreachable!!! He doesnt even have to touch you to knock you out!!!
If you think Bruce Lee\'s one inch punch hit was an impressive example of internal force wait till you see this. Unbelievable!!!
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ill believe his telekinetic powers when he throws me across a room personally.
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I do that with my farts.
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:laughing:
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While some of his moves are crazy others seem a little fake :/ such as the telekenetic stuff.....
Can someone explain to me why these guys are doing crazy jumps for about 10 seconds after the guy barely hits him? Seems a little fake imo. Looks like some dragon ball stuff....
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hhmmm, i wonder what jedi school he trained at.. I\'d like to join too!
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While some of his moves are crazy others seem a little fake :/ such as the telekenetic stuff.....
Can someone explain to me why these guys are doing crazy jumps for about 10 seconds after the guy barely hits him? Seems a little fake imo. Looks like some dragon ball stuff....
Well I dont know if if its true or not. But the best explanation I can get from it is that he emits some waves in the brain\'s nerves which cause spasms and uncontrollable movements.
Anyways I ve read a book written by a kung fu and Chi Kung master and he is talking about some weird abilities you can develop through some techniques and deep meditation.
Some of which I can remember, was to get relaxed someone, open his blocked points of energy and fuse him with Chi. The person will start moving involuntarily according to the way the chi flows into his body.
This was also done by a master of chinese medicine in a seminar but he emited his chi on the spectators who started moving involuntarily.
I cant remember his name though but he could be the guy in that video.
Another weird feat was the ability to understand some people\'s thoughts. The explanation in the book was that with every thought you make, your brain emits waves or some kind of frequency which some masters can reckognise and feel.
He also spoke of instances where masters can communicate with other beings from the astral plane.
Indeed they are unbelievable but then again, since we understand as much as what we have been taught to understand its sometimes wrong to describe as fake (or real) something that is beyond what we tend to accept as normal due to our experiences being limited to certain rules and living of our society.
So even if such feats exist we wouldnt have believed them anyways. So for now I am nuetral on whether they are real or not
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^^^my pc at work won\'t let me watch the video,..but now i gotta think there might be some truth to this,...the same guy who i mentioned studied the martial art called "silat" in another thread, stated that he witnessed moves such as the one\'s that\'s being experienced in the video....this guy was one of my closest friends and he really doesn\'t lie about anything like that, and he used to travel to korea to actually study with this grandmaster,..so when he told me stories of the type that\'s mentioned above, i kinda blew him off stating "there\'s no way anybody can do s**t like that!"....but maybe there was some truth to what he witnessed over there after all...
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witnessing and experiencing are 2 different things. It\'s bullshit, flat out crap. If you believe in it then good for you. I also believe in santa too. I\'ve studied a fair amount of martial arts and a few different styles. I\'ve seen similar crap to this before and told my instructors about it. They had a good laugh.
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They had a news crew investigate such claims and it ended up in failure for the sensei jedi kungfu karate bolgogi egg fu yung master. The reporter felt nothing. Well....except for the master\'s breathing.
Like I said....my fart does this. I can clear a 10 foot raduis with just two tacos. Imagine if I ate an entire meal! Oh shit!
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witnessing and experiencing are 2 different things. It\'s bullshit, flat out crap. If you believe in it then good for you. I also believe in santa too. I\'ve studied a fair amount of martial arts and a few different styles. I\'ve seen similar crap to this before and told my instructors about it. They had a good laugh.
No matter how many martial arts someone may study doesnt mean much today because almost every martial art has been degraded from its original effectiveness. Most Kung Fu martial arts for example have transformed into nothing but beautiful looking moves and patterns.
TaeKwonDo have turned mostly into a sport when in the past it was effective even in wars. Even the ITF style is degraded.
Judo is as effective as the olympic roman wrestling
Karate also turned into a sport
there are tons of examples of martial art degration.
Because the true form of martial arts are excessively hard to master, instructors dont teach them as they should have been taught otherwise people puting the effort to learn them would have been scarce. Real martial arts training is too hard for most people even for those that already practice martial arts. Then the students become instructors but arent teaching the martial art as it should have been taught either because they have been taught as much.
While every shaolin moink will tell you how important the development of Chi is most western instructors will tell you that its just excercise like every other excercise or tell you its not needed
My father for example have seen in person incredible things Shaolin monks could do. Walk on spears while holding heavy bricks, getting kicked in the genitals and feel nothing, 6 year old kids standing on one leg for 15 minutes while the other one is completely straighten up horizontally, get hit with swords with no injury inflicted, keeping the horse riding stance for more than an hour etc etc.
On the other hand I ve met instructors that teach less than what they should have.
Also most sparring trainings are done under very limiting rules. I am very dissapointed by these because they arent letting you test and imporve your effectiveness in real life. Some supposed masters wouldnt even let you spar with the excuse that "its against the principles of the martial art" or that "moves are too dangerous and they can kill someone". Simply because they arent good enough either. And when the time comes to face someone in real life and use these "oh so powerful moves" you get your ass kicked.
Is it because martial arts are all bs? Ofcourse not. There is a reason why they survived all these years. They were practiced among the best army officers, generals and soldiers in ages of fierce wars were you had to improve every sense and part of yoru body.
Few people learn a martial art as it should be. Many will learn Wing Chun, but only few will go as far as knowing the secret most powerful techniques like the powerful iron fist which could brake your skull. Only few will reach the real form of Tai Chi which actually involves force and fast moves as well and not just slow moves that pretty much everyone is familiar with in countless Tai Chi schools everywhere.
Only few will learn the true form of TaeKwonDo which has too fast and powerful kicks for someone to even try grap your leg.
Only few will learn the real master form of Karate which involves Reiki or internal force.
Most martial artists today are effective in a fight mostly because they have built enough physical strength from their training. Not because they are true masters.
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Martial Arts has its place and use, depending on the type of opponent you\'re up against. Going against a big muscular 250lb wrestler? Karate will fail. Use Jiu Jitsu. Up against a taller, faster boxer? Use Tae Kwon Do/Karate.
It\'s like rock papers scissors. You can\'t specialize on just one. To be an all around fighter, you have to be a generalist on many disciplines.
However....to specialize on one discipline to achieve that zen state of pure mastery...that\'s what masters do - to teach their level of expertise to students. Not to fight in UFC or Pride FC.
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Personally I\'ve never really been interested in MA. But recently I\'ve been thinking about Krav Maga, it seems pretty cool.
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Personally I\'ve never really been interested in MA. But recently I\'ve been thinking about Krav Maga, it seems pretty cool.
Not only is MA good for your health physically, it\'s also mentally theraputic (sp?).
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Look at this super sensei-whatever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tib2Urowsdc&mode=related&search=
And here he is again... Getting pnwed. :laughing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMgVmFzBrus&mode=related&search=
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No matter how many martial arts someone may study doesnt mean much today because almost every martial art has been degraded from its original effectiveness. Most Kung Fu martial arts for example have transformed into nothing but beautiful looking moves and patterns.
TaeKwonDo have turned mostly into a sport when in the past it was effective even in wars. Even the ITF style is degraded.
Judo is as effective as the olympic roman wrestling
Karate also turned into a sport
there are tons of examples of martial art degration.
Because the true form of martial arts are excessively hard to master, instructors dont teach them as they should have been taught otherwise people puting the effort to learn them would have been scarce. Real martial arts training is too hard for most people even for those that already practice martial arts. Then the students become instructors but arent teaching the martial art as it should have been taught either because they have been taught as much.
While every shaolin moink will tell you how important the development of Chi is most western instructors will tell you that its just excercise like every other excercise or tell you its not needed
My father for example have seen in person incredible things Shaolin monks could do. Walk on spears while holding heavy bricks, getting kicked in the genitals and feel nothing, 6 year old kids standing on one leg for 15 minutes while the other one is completely straighten up horizontally, get hit with swords with no injury inflicted, keeping the horse riding stance for more than an hour etc etc.
On the other hand I ve met instructors that teach less than what they should have.
Also most sparring trainings are done under very limiting rules. I am very dissapointed by these because they arent letting you test and imporve your effectiveness in real life. Some supposed masters wouldnt even let you spar with the excuse that "its against the principles of the martial art" or that "moves are too dangerous and they can kill someone". Simply because they arent good enough either. And when the time comes to face someone in real life and use these "oh so powerful moves" you get your ass kicked.
Is it because martial arts are all bs? Ofcourse not. There is a reason why they survived all these years. They were practiced among the best army officers, generals and soldiers in ages of fierce wars were you had to improve every sense and part of yoru body.
Few people learn a martial art as it should be. Many will learn Wing Chun, but only few will go as far as knowing the secret most powerful techniques like the powerful iron fist which could brake your skull. Only few will reach the real form of Tai Chi which actually involves force and fast moves as well and not just slow moves that pretty much everyone is familiar with in countless Tai Chi schools everywhere.
Only few will learn the true form of TaeKwonDo which has too fast and powerful kicks for someone to even try grap your leg.
Only few will learn the real master form of Karate which involves Reiki or internal force.
Most martial artists today are effective in a fight mostly because they have built enough physical strength from their training. Not because they are true masters.
i didn\'t bother to read through all this crap, i don\'t even know why u started rambling on. but i studied subs and non sub styles. I don\'t need someone telling me about how much Martial Arts has changed. I\'d know far more then most on that.
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1)I dont know why you think I wrote crap
2)I dont know why you think I started rambling on.
Its just a discussion
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tib2Urowsdc more "real" martial arts.
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I dont know what are you trying to prove with that
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nothing, i\'m pretty sure sammy proved enough. ;)
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There are charlatans of all kinds. Your point? Even some instructors claiming they are masters of any martial art using external force many times have their asses beaten because they were either charlatans of werent good enough for real.
I can claim that I am a Jeet Kune Do martial artist and get my ass kicked and post a video. Does this mean because I am a charlatan Bruce Lee was a charlatan?
No.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xcueOi_dno
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In your title, there is one word you should have focused on:
[SIZE="7"][FONT="Arial Black"][COLOR="Red"]Unbelievable[/COLOR][/U][/B][/FONT][/SIZE] supernatural martial arts skills
In the first movie those later moves were poorly done, I\'ve seen better acting in B list movies.
The second video (the monk) was better, far more realistic, but still a bit over the top with the comments (he used his whole body to help absorb the energy of what he was doing).
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Well I said unbelievable. The first depicts unbelievable. I couldnt find any other example. Actually I did. But it will be accepted similarly. I posted the last video with the monk because thats something that most martial art instractors although they claim theya re masters they dont do such things and neither they teach them.
I ll try find the other one but its hard for me to believe. As I said I dont rule anything as fake or real. I am not in a position to judge based on simple "common sense"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruB0yghbcUY
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Check this too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FZjHAijc0k
This one is supposed to be a practitioner of the same technique the master who got owned used called Kiai
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this thread = best topic of the century so far, I haven\'t pissed my sides so much in years.
Cheers uni
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My old kung fu teacher learned in a southern temple in China. He made a big deal about bringing his teacher and some of the Chinese students to the states for a demonstration. His teacher was ridiculous. He could break a spear wedged against his esophagus by stepping forward until it cracked and walk across florescent light bulbs without breaking them. The Chinese students were nice too. One student demonstrated his strength by punching straight through a LARGE watermelon with the snake fist.
Soulgrind trying to compare his goofy australian nunchuk skills to the type of shit they do in traditional schools is ridiculous.
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My old kung fu teacher learned in a southern temple in China. He made a big deal about bringing his teacher and some of the Chinese students to the states for a demonstration. His teacher was ridiculous. He could break a spear wedged against his esophagus by stepping forward until it cracked and walk across florescent light bulbs without breaking them. The Chinese students were nice too. One student demonstrated his strength by punching straight through a LARGE watermelon with the snake fist.
Soulgrind trying to compare his goofy australian nunchuk skills to the type of shit they do in traditional schools is ridiculous.
yea, thats what i was comparing it to :rolleyes:
My nunchaku skills could be hardly called goofy, if u knew anything about nunchaku and the different styles (including traditional Okinawa) you\'d know that, but you don\'t so stfu!!
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Hey. I haven\'t posted here in a while, but this seems like a pretty cool discussion so might as well join in. I\'m an amateur in Tae Kwon Do, and these are vidoes that help me stay motivated (with zero hypnotized flying dumbfucks):
Awesome demonstration by Korea Taepoong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NcVxWN6__s&mode=related&search=
Another great one by Korea Tigers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27x09mTbfMs&mode=related&search=
Intense ITF sparring match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJINTL2dGRA
Anthology of WTF olympic sparring:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5I1vZed4n0&mode=related&search=
"Best of the Best of Tae Kwon Do" - awesome, but could use better music...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE5hgaxMfv8&mode=related&search=
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What style are you practicing?
WTF or ITF?
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.
nice comeback :thumb:
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Btw do you still have your nunchuku site? Did you upload any new videos?
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heh i finally seen the very first video....what is up with the these guys towards the end of the video when the guy uses the force and those guys in the red shirts just frolic away like they\'re doing ballet?!..pure bulls**t!...:laughing:...then i seen the one sammy posted where that same guy got his ass whooped...that chi stuff with the force movements is bulls**t,..why didn\'t he use it against that younger guy?....that grandmaster got that ass whooped...:laughing:....good post sammy!
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Either he was a moron for accepting the challenge when he clearly knew he was a charlatan or his was like "WTF" when it unexpectedly didnt work :p
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It wouldn\'t surprise me if the younger dood was meant to go down. "paid to" but decided to show people what a phony the old dood was.
yea, i still have the nunchaku site, just haven\'t had time to update it. Put a view vids on youtube to bring some people to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkuXIbQR6s0 <-- example.
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You guys should try that with the Wiimote and nunchuk.
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It wouldn\'t surprise me if the younger dood was meant to go down. "paid to" but decided to show people what a phony the old dood was.
yea, i still have the nunchaku site, just haven\'t had time to update it. Put a view vids on youtube to bring some people to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkuXIbQR6s0 <-- example.
You improved since last time I remember watching your videos;)
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no sound?
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It wouldn\'t surprise me if the younger dood was meant to go down. "paid to" but decided to show people what a phony the old dood was.
yea, i still have the nunchaku site, just haven\'t had time to update it. Put a view vids on youtube to bring some people to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkuXIbQR6s0 <-- example.
^^^i can do that with my dick!...:fro:...nice work with the chucks soully!...:thumb:
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^^^i can do that with my dick!...:fro:
Can you do that with other\'s? *giggles* :gfight:
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nice comeback :thumb:
Relax, Chunk Norris. We can\'t all nunchuk our keyboards into giving the best replies.
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pffft sure we can sammo hung.
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Hey just found the official site of the martial artist in the first video
http://www.pathgate.org/intro_dr_young.html
There are video files in his site too
I know some of you may laugh butI kind of feel that he may not be a charlatan like the other guy
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pffft sure we can sammo hung.
nice comeback :thumb:
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Relax, sammo hung. We can\'t all nunchuk our keyboards into giving the best replies.
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Hey btw I posted the video of the guy in a Shaolin/Chi Kung/Tai Chi forum. They say that such feats are possible by some masters and that some forum members have had similar experiences with such but usually masters demonstrate them only to close students.
Well Soully\'s instructors may laugh but others may find them quite normal
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This one oughtta be funny.
Link (http://www.funnyside.co.uk/?p=74)
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Hey btw I posted the video of the guy in a Shaolin/Chi Kung/Tai Chi forum. They say that such feats are possible by some masters and that some forum members have had similar experiences with such but usually masters demonstrate them only to close students.
Well Soully\'s instructors may laugh but others may find them quite normal
i can\'t help but feel you\'re full of shit.
show me this other forum.
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The fact that you say that I am full of shit as if its in my character to lie to proove me right is very insulting :mad:
You could have just asked politely
http://www.wongkiewkit.com/forum/index.php
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wheres your post? i just find it odd that people believe this stuff when i\'ve been training for over 10 years, i\'ve meet a lot of high level instructors that would call this out right bs and would laugh at even the idea of it. Chi is one thing, but making it so people can\'t touch you like out of some DBZ episode is another, to be honest i\'m not even interested in peoples "it happened to me" stories. Unless i experience myself i doubt i\'d ever believe it.
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wheres your post? i just find it odd that people believe this stuff when i\'ve been training for over 10 years, i\'ve meet a lot of high level instructors that would call this out right bs and would laugh at even the idea of it. Chi is one thing, but making it so people can\'t touch you like out of some DBZ episode is another, to be honest i\'m not even interested in peoples "it happened to me" stories. Unless i experience myself i doubt i\'d ever believe it.
But thats what I ve been telling you in the first place. Many martial arts have been degraded since their most unique techniques are extremely hard to achieve.
I ve read 2 books one on Shaolin Kung Fu and one on Chi Kung and they do mention feats that are hard to believe.
Such weird abilities are a part of Chi and are mentioned in Chi Kung books. Dr Young the man who demonstrated these unbelievable but questioned abilities (because even I find hard to believe) seems to be known, give seminars, and demosntrate these in some kind of exhibitions from what I understand in front of judges and simple spectators. His ability to trick so many people to even offer him honors, titles and such is even more unbelievable is he is truelly a charlatan.
The most advanced forms of Chi Kung are only achievable by extremely few people. They involve huge efforts of mind control and meditation. Its almost as if you are trying to become a saint or something.
Thats why rarely you might find instructors that can actually do what few do, and because of this most have never ever experienced or being told about them, passing only what they know from student to student who then become instructors.
Chi Kung revolves around many aspects of mysticism especialy derived from Taoism, and I did a search in these forums and they seem to know about some mystical aspects of these arts. Spiritual aspects of the arts are totally trashed and abandoned.
This is a highly respectful forum btw created by Wong Kiewt Kit from what I understand, and there are many instructors and students posting in it. I doubt they will post crap and stuff. The instructors wouldnt have let it.
For me its a given that 99,99% of the instructors dont know or care about many aspects of the martial arts they are teaching.
http://www.wongkiewkit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=52364#post52364
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no, not 99.99% of MA go into chi techniques. Not because they originally did, but simply because they didn\'t. I don\'t know where you live, but there are a few schools that teach traditional styles here, not tournament directed styles. I\'ve moved between most of them, currently looking into jujitsu, although a sub style.
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Hre is another thread of what instructors thing about it. This thread started from someone who find completely crazy some testimonials
http://www.wongkiewkit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3796&highlight=supernatural
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Sorry, I just can\'t bring myself to believe that people can avoid physical damage with their mind like Proffessor X or some shit.
Also...if it were real. Don\'t you think that if there was a human being capable of stopping physical damage with their mind that it would like, oh I don\'t know, BE ON THE NEWS?
Here is a link to something far more useful than psychic kung fu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felching
Enjoy.
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^ what he said, they\'d be a huge thing about it. It wouldn\'t be a hush hush thing. Surely everyone would know about it by now. It\'s bs and when people are gullable enough to believe it, i feel sorry for them.
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I don\'t know where you live, but there are a few schools that teach traditional styles here, not tournament directed styles. I\'ve moved between most of them, currently looking into jujitsu, although a sub style.
Just because they are traditional style doesn\'t mean they teach the traditional way.
The way I was taught and the way my instructor was taught in China are night and day.
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Exactly. There are schools that teach "traditional" styles of some martial arts in cyprus as well.
Yet they lack compared to their true complete forms and the students dont learn as much as they should have had from the martial art.
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Until i witness it for myself ill dismiss it as fake, and if I do experience it myself, i\'ll waste no time learning it for myself :)
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Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs8mblcgTsk&mode=related&search=kick%20ass%20moves