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Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: Joker on December 27, 2006, 02:37:50 PM
http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/54650/

an epic battle
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: Luke on December 28, 2006, 12:12:48 AM
I always watch crap like that and try to figure out how it was done.



No idea on this one.
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: Bozco on December 28, 2006, 01:27:53 AM
Very cool
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: Joker on December 28, 2006, 01:44:29 AM
stop motion has always been interesting to me. Can only imagine how hard this one was. I dig the music too ;)
or maybe Vid has an idea how they did it.
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: Paul2 on December 28, 2006, 02:53:28 AM
Quote from: Luke


I always watch crap like that and try to figure out how it was done.



No idea on this one.

No idea on how this was done either.  It\'s beyond my head and I would like Videoholic can shed some lights on this on how they did it.  Man if they can pull those cool effects and clever ideas off, then these people will have no trouble getting jobs in that field and get good pay too.  I do enjoy it and it does give me an idea what its like when people are on acid or on drugs that they probably see something like that in real life when they are high...
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 28, 2006, 03:54:23 AM
stop animation.. basically stand still, take a pic. move slightly. Stand still, take another pic etc.  You\'ll end up for a full movie soon enough. Take a friggin long time to do.
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: JBean on December 28, 2006, 05:35:26 AM
The only hard part about making something like this is finding the time to do it.  Back in high school me and a few buds made a stop motion movie with inanimate objects and it took us a few days of shooting just to come up with about a minute of good stills.

This is pretty damn well done though.. and creative.  I like when they are floating around.. must have been tiring jumping up and tucking their legs for all those shots.
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: THX on December 28, 2006, 07:16:39 AM
oh how i miss my college days, with the stretches where i had pretty much nothing to do :D
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: Paul2 on December 28, 2006, 09:09:59 AM
Quote from: §ôµÏG®ïñD

stop animation.. basically stand still, take a pic. move slightly. Stand still, take another pic etc.  You\'ll end up for a full movie soon enough. Take a friggin long time to do.
I figured many part of the video clips are stop animation, but I still don\'t get some part though like they going through the fence.  is that even possible even with stop animation?  And the flying part too, so I think JBean just shed some lights that they must be jumping up for every shot for the floating mid-air part.

Here is another one I am not even sure on is when that guy is sliding up the slide from down to up.  How does he manage to defy gravity and slide upward for stop animation?

Oh, another one, did the guy actually stand on top of the other guy and sliding through the grass like skating for the stop animation?  I wonder if the other guy gets any backaches from that.  Maybe he stand on top of him, and stand away and took a break, then move slightly and stand of top of him again, and repeat...

Also, the part where that guy read the note, all the letters on the paper fell down into the bottom of the paper.  That has to be special effect there I believe...it will be again blew my mind again if they actually do that with stop animation.  Imagine how many pages they have to animate the letters falling down to do that...

One last one thing, the part where this guy punch the other guy, and the other guy flew over the tree.  That one has to be special effect because I doubt anyone can flip backward over the tree like that...
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: JBean on December 28, 2006, 01:01:39 PM
i\'ll try to shed some light on how I think they did a few of those tricks (or at least how I would try to re-create them).  Going through the fence is pretty easy.. you take your shots right up until your face is up against one side of the fence, then you run around to the other side of the fence with your back up against the fence and keep going.  When you play it back at full speed it looks like you just passed through it.

And there were a few parts where it was probably a video that they played backwards.  Like the punching the guy into the tree was probably done with the guy actually jumping from the top of the tree to the ground ending with the fist already extended (the punch) then pulled back.  Playing this in reverse would look like a person punched him up the tree.  There is no way to stop motion a jump or fall like that without wires and/or some sort of computer trickery.
Title: Tony vs Paul
Post by: Paul2 on December 28, 2006, 04:37:03 PM
Cool.  JBean, I think you pretty much shed all the lights on how these were done.  Again, very impressive and these guys really have creative ideas.

Maybe they should include one trick that I used to do since its a lot easier is have one guy stand still in a background like on the park.  Then spins around, then leave.  Then have the other guy stand on the same spot where the first guy was, and spins around too.  maybe the first guy should spin clockwise, and the 2nd guy should spin counter clockwise.  When edited them, overlap about 1 second of the two guy standing on the same background spinning.  And when play it back.  It should makes it looks like the first guy just transforms into the 2nd guy.  They could make it more creative than that like maybe as they spin, the guy transform to different clothes, and transform backward and forth with different clothes on.  Or something like that.

Another one, have one guy standing on the background, put one hand out, say his left hand with his palm opens, and still standing still, snap a finger with his right hand.  Have someone hold something say like a rake and approach him and place it on his left palm.  Then edited the part where the other guy place the rake on his hand.  And when play it back, it should looks like the guy just snap a finger and the rake magically appear on his other hand...

Mine ideas isn\'t as creative as their in comparison, and not to mention their ideas took a lot of hard work and a lot of time too.  Hats off to them.