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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: RichG on January 06, 2007, 03:05:45 AM
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Hey folks,
Long time no speak (About another year and a half...) ;-)
So I\'m contemplating getting a PS3 from eBay USA, its basically £460 ($890) for PS3 60 gig, 1 game of choice and an additional controller. This price also includes shipping over here to England.
The thing is the price is actually cheaper than what the PS3 will likely be when it is released here in March. The downside of course is the lack of region free backwards compatability, blueray region lock out and the general risk of large customs tax and it not working when it does arrive.
What do you recorn? Shall I go for it or just wait?
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^^^i\'ve never heard of you before, but whazzup to my peeps across the water!....:fro:...now for what it\'s worth i\'d just wait for the system that\'s more compatable with your region,...there\'s really no real AAA games for system yet anyway, i would just wait.
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I\'d forget the PS3 until later this year.
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*unless you have a 1080P TV to enjoy Blu-Ray movies.
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and an audio receiver that accepts HDMI especially HDMI v1.3 and can decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA audio codecs for Blu Ray movies that support it.
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all 2 of them (or so).
if you can distinctly hear the difference between 5.1 and 7.1 and have the $1000\'s to pay for it, good bless you.
both formats are ripoff fads just like DTS.
DD5.1 is more than enough for 99% of home movie watchers
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I think some people gets confused about the difference between Dolby Digital and dolby TrueHD.
Both formats can be in any channels, such as mono or 1 channel, stereo or 2 channels, and multi-channels such as 5.1, 6.1, and 7.1.
The major different between Dolby Digital and Dolby TrueHD is that one is a "lossy" compression while the other is "lossless" compression format which can be decode into 100% "uncompressed" quality.
Think of it like mp3 and pcm. MP3 is a "lossy" compression format, while PCM is "uncompressed" format.
Another difference is the spec between the two. Dolby Digital supports only 20 bits sound quality at 48 kHz as its highest, and the compression quality was 15:1 for most Dolby Digital 5.1. Meaning, 15 times the original size of the audio data has been thrown away to save space and cannot be recover since the data been remove are too high to recover and its a "lossy" codec.
Thanks to it much higher storage capacity that both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD offer, Dolby True-HD by the book can supports up to 192 kHz while I think 96 kHz are overkill, and at 24 bits depth at its maximum and up to 7.1 channels. the compression ratio was about 2:1 lossless compression.
That\'s why i am raving about this two lossless codecs Dolby True-HD and DTS-HDMA.
Even most Blu Ray movies that came out recently are recorded with PCM 5.1 since PCM is uncompressed. The reason why they choose PCM for first generation movies is because no A/V receivers have lossless audio codecs yet and the space on Blu Ray movies are sufficient enough for it...
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DTS is better than DD. And I don\'t mean theoretically. If you can\'t hear the difference then either you or your gear sucks.
That\'s not to say DD is bad though, it isn\'t. It\'s just that DTS is even better.
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welcome to 1% of the population that can hear the difference. you must have golden ears. i hope you didn\'t pay for it
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I\'m also part of that 1%, Mike. I actually recommended using DTS to a friend yesterday.
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I never paid attention to the difference. Good knowledge to know though. I\'ll get a DTS system when I get it.
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DTS, like DD are both lossy compressor. Except DTS uses higher bitrate than DD and support up to 24 bits, 96 kHz. I guess that\'s why many can\'t hear a difference since both are lossy compressor...
how about a better question.
Can you guys hear the difference between MP3 and PCM (Wave)?
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arguing dts vs dd is like saying which is faster: a Dodge Neon or Honda Civic?
Lossless is the way everything should be, technology just needs to catch up.
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If people wanted the best quality then selecting either uncompressed or lossless quality is the way to go.
No compression artifacts whatsoever. Just 100% pure quality.:)
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Can you guys hear the difference between MP3 and PCM (Wave)?
*raises hand* But some MP3s are so good I can\'t tell the difference. That\'s why I get 192 or higher kbps. I can start to notice lower than that. It may be more with 192+ the I feel its worth it.
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that\'s cool. if people that have good hometheater system like great quality speakers and audio processor, then its should become somewhat noticeable between lossy compression and lossless or uncompressed...
Its also depends on how much compression was put into the audio codecs. Like Titan has pointed out, lesser compression makes it much harder to discern the difference between lossy and uncompressed. Sometimes, its nearly indistinguishable.
Anyway, I would like to edit something I posted early. Most DD 5.1 have about roughly 11:1 compression. Not 15:1.