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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: clips on January 26, 2007, 05:38:00 AM
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i just saw this thread over at gamespot...i don\'t go online so i wouldn\'t be familiar, but for those that do, is it really as bad as this thread states? It\'s a pretty big thread, but if you go thru the first page or two you can get an idea of what they are talking about....
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25335245&tag=recent_topics;title;0
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welcome to the internet where people can say anything with anonymity.
crying about it won\'t help anything.
reading gamespot forums will make you stupid.
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More often than racism, it\'s young kids using racial slurs because young kids are obnoxious brats who like to go out of their way to get under the skin of anyone older than them, and sometimes people the same age. And it\'s not just offensive to whatever race, these kids and their obnoxious squeaking will offend anyone with ears.
Having said that, game experience may change when playing online, etc etc.
The trick is to play kid-free games. Texas Hold Em can be mature sometimes. I had a real love for Tetris Worlds on the original Xbox, too.
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The most popular racial slurs that I see in the PC online gaming community is "NIGGER" and "JEW" specifically directed at the person if they are white. In other words it\'s meant to be the ultimate insult towards the white person when you label them as a black person. Simply put your a calling the white man a worthless piece of shit. (remember I am only relaying the message , I do not in any way agree with this)
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Asian and White kids trying to be ghetto. :laughing: That\'s so.......common.
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I just skim through page 1 and a bit of page 2 and i feel tired reading the rest of it. Boring, lame. White people acts like they are "better" by saying oh looks black people called me "cracker" and the "n" words, and they say white people aren\'t offended. Then they say heh, but black people gets offended when white people use racial slurs on them...blah, blah and blah....maybe both are fake...
I don\'t know, i just seems tired of it or something...shrugs...
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I\'ve encountered racism on PS2 online. Usually people just make slurs back and forth in like a joking manner. I dunno.
EDIT: I did a search for the word nigger on wikipedia not too long ago. It wasn\'t considered offensive until after the Civil Rights Movement. Don\'t believe me, look it up. But I don\'t understand why black people can use nigger all they want but once someone else uses it, its suddenly offensive. If they want to help stop racism, maybe they should stop using the word to describe themselves. I don\'t see any other race use a slur to describe themselves. It just seems like a double standard to me. Just my opinion though. But then again, I can get politically correct, lol. I do find the history of the word very interesting. It was derived from the latin word niger which meant simply black and it just started to morph into its current meaning. I find it interesting that it was never derogatory until the civil rights era. Funny how meanings of words change. Gay, queer and fag all changed meanings throughout the ages, especially during the century. Its weird to think what words we use freely today will be taboo 50 years from now.
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interesting points there...but i guess white people shouldn\'t use it on black people unless black people did something mean to them first...otherwise, don\'t use it on a black person unless you are asking for it...trouble that is...
for instance, if say you don\'t know that person, and that person didn\'t do anything to you, all of a sudden. You disrespect that person by calling racial slurs. it doesn\'t matter if you are kidding or mean it, that person might took it the wrong way and get offended...and you should called that person slurs if that person disrespect you first, but only call slurs to that individual that did something mean to you...not to the entire race...otherwise, you are asking for trouble...
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interesting points there...but i guess white people shouldn\'t use it on black people unless black people did something mean to them first...otherwise, don\'t use it on a black person unless you are asking for it...trouble that is...
for instance, if say you don\'t know that person, and that person didn\'t do anything to you, all of a sudden. You disrespect that person by calling racial slurs. it doesn\'t matter if you are kidding or mean it, that person might took it the wrong way and get offended...and you should called that person slurs if that person disrespect you first, but only call slurs to that individual that did something mean to you...not to the entire race...otherwise, you are asking for trouble...
Agreed 100%
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welcome to the internet where people can say anything with anonymity.
crying about it won\'t help anything.
reading gamespot forums will make you stupid.
i don\'t frequent those boards, i already knew that it\'s full of young people that are extremely ignorant. i just wanted to know if anybody here experienced any of that stuff when they went online.
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I see it sometimes, but not too much. Generally when people act like complete d-bags they are banned.
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What the hell are you niggers complainin\' about in here?
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i don\'t frequent those boards, i already knew that it\'s full of young people that are extremely ignorant. i just wanted to know if anybody here experienced any of that stuff when they went online.
Gotta love teenagers *sigh* I hate playing with them sometimes online. They say some stupid shit and talk shit when they kill you. I always say "congratulations you little douche. You prove to me that you have so little of a life that you have to make up for your lack of a penis by beating someone who works, goes to school and makes something of his life." Said something like that to a couple little punks and it shuts them up ;)
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If people took what everyone says online with a grain of salt it wouldn\'t be that big of a deal. I\'m not condoning racism, but you just have to not get worked up over it. I\'ve experienced it on PC and Live, pretty much equally.
I couldn\'t begin to count how many times I\'ve had people on Live put on their best "white" voice or use some slur against me playing college football, didn\'t change my day.
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Some people take video games WAY too seriously. They do it to piss the person off, that\'s all. When a person is pissed, they don\'t play with their A game and its easier to beat them. Once your mind is occupied by the ignorant asshole, it isn\'t focused on the game, so mistakes are easier to make. I know I suck at games when my mind is occupied by something else. But when I\'m focused, I can do anything in a game.
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I hated my experience on Live! so much. It\'s 10x worse than the PC community in my experience. I can\'t imagine myself using a voice comm for *any* console game in the near future. Too many morons out there.
One racist I remember while in my MOHAA clan (for PC) loved to say n*gger over & over, asked him why and he said he genuinely doesn\'t like black people. Then I found his clan\'s forum and kept sending him videos of white people getting the shit kicked out of them by anyone of color. He always got really pissed, which was more entertaining than his little online gaming racist rants.
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I hated my experience on Live! so much. It\'s 10x worse than the PC community in my experience. I can\'t imagine myself using a voice comm for *any* console game in the near future. Too many morons out there.
One racist I remember while in my MOHAA clan (for PC) loved to say n*gger over & over, asked him why and he said he genuinely doesn\'t like black people. Then I found his clan\'s forum and kept sending him videos of white people getting the shit kicked out of them by anyone of color. He always got really pissed, which was more entertaining than his little online gaming racist rants.
Lol, that\'s awesome. That\'s the way to deal with those racist fuckers.
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But I don\'t understand why black people can use nigger all they want but once someone else uses it, its suddenly offensive. If they want to help stop racism, maybe they should stop using the word to describe themselves.
Not every black person does that, actually. Not every black person fits the image you have in your head when you think of this type of person.
i don\'t frequent those boards, i already knew that it\'s full of young people that are extremely ignorant.
Young ignorant kids, same as what\'s online, unfortunately.
What\'s funny is how Nintendo goes out of its way to make it difficult to hook up with strangers online to protect kids, but it\'s actually the kids themselves who are most offensive in that environment.
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Not every black person does that, actually. Not every black person fits the image you have in your head when you think of this type of person.
I was actually talking about more of the rappers and stuff. But even around my school, a lot of the black people use nigger all the time. I was on my computer in the student center at my school and this black kid was at the table next to me and was saying nigger like every 5 words.
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But I doubt that guy is racist against blacks, too. If you don\'t give the word that kind of weight, it doesn\'t carry that kind of tone. And that\'s pretty much how that whole "movement" got started.
On the other hand, I might find the term "fuckhead" to be inoffensive if I use it all the time casually, but other people would probably still find it offensive.
So, I guess, that kid at your student center is an inconsiderate prick. What a fuckhead.
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Solidifies my point though. A black person can say it even in public and stuff and its really not looked twice at most of the time but have a white person say it, even when he\'s not in public or anything and people immediately think he/she\'s a racist. But I guess the same can be said about yoru fuckhead analogy. Some people would get offended by it. I don\'t know why. I\'ve been called it by my friends and I don\'t care.
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I\'ve been called it by my friends and I don\'t care.
you\'re white. Why would you be offended?
The question has been asked a bizillion times and answered a bizillion different ways. Clips had a good answer a while ago when it was brought up so u can go look for that post. One opinion i\'ve seen from black people is that if you use the word enough, itll lose it\'s meaning. On the other hand you have black people saying it should never be said..good lucking finding the answer
I see it a little too often on some games..but even 1 in like 20 people that 1 person will piss me off enough to say it\'s happening too often.
Anyone can buy a console and hop on xbox live..and there\'s plenty of idiots in the world, especially ignorant little kids
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Which nigger took the last donut? - (trudy from reno 911)