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Title: PS3 Has A Hardware Scaler After All
Post by: THX on January 26, 2007, 07:08:46 AM
http://www.beyond3d.com/articles/ps3scaler/

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The key words in that last paragraph would be “until now,” because with the latest PlayStation 3 software development kit (SDK) update, Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI) has finally exposed part of the built-in hardware scaler to developers.


Dun dun dunnnnn!!

If you are on any other gaming forums you\'ll hear the Xbox fanbois argue with the PS3 fanbois that the Xbox is better because it has an internal hardware scaler, a chip whose sole purpose is to scale video, which doesn\'t put any pressure on the main CPU.  This lets everything output @ 1080p, which isn\'t really a big deal if your 1080p HDTV already has a nice scaler built-in.  It\'s just a bullet point fanbois love to proclaim, many of which don\'t even have a 1080p capable set.

Well it turns out the PS3 has a hardware scaler after all.  With the latest software patch and a developer SDK, the PS3 will be doing the same thing as the 360 when it comes to scaling.

Again this is no big deal, just some news regarding the PS3.
Title: PS3 Has A Hardware Scaler After All
Post by: GmanJoe on January 26, 2007, 07:54:22 AM
That\'s good news. Coz every damn forum I go to, it\'s a bunch of 360 morons bashing the PS3 27/7. :mad:
Title: PS3 Has A Hardware Scaler After All
Post by: Paul2 on January 26, 2007, 08:33:49 AM
Nice information there.

So, basically, the more updated SDK kit is more flexible that it can output 1280 x 720p or it can output that same information into 1080i by using 960 x 1080 instead of 1920 x 1080 or 1920 x 540.

Because if games were developed in 1280 x 720p, and if output in 1920 x 1080i, it would require twice the resolution details to do so, and it may slow games down for twice that pixel fillrate.  And if output 1920 x 540p which have about the same fillrate of 1280 x 720p, this run into problems with HDTV as that means 540p will upconvert to 1080i.  And that means you only get 540 lines that were interpolated into 1080 lines.  Although you do get the full 1920 vertical lines, but i guess many 1080i doesn\'t resolve full 1920 vertical lines.

So, its better to use 960 x 1080i lines instead of 1920 x 540p.  Which both methods does have about the same pixel fill rate of 1280 x 720p.  So, it shouldn\'t cost a performance hit when compare to output 1920 x 1080i or 1920 x 1080p.  I say pixel fill rate, not frame rate for the interlace or progressive signal.


Good thing is my 1080i HDTV can resolve about 900 x 1080i, so games outputting 960 x 1080i instead of 1280 x 720p will have about the same details for my hdtv.  And also, my 1080i HDTV can upscale 720p to 1080i internally so its all good to me when playing games that only can output 720p at its maximum resolution.
Title: PS3 Has A Hardware Scaler After All
Post by: clowd on January 26, 2007, 09:21:18 AM
Xbox 360 fanboys make me look good...anytime you troll console reviews of a system (PS3) you didn\'t even buy (Gamestop.com) you got alot of problems

I doubt this will quiet them
Title: PS3 Has A Hardware Scaler After All
Post by: QuDDus on January 26, 2007, 09:24:13 AM
You all look like fanbois
Title: PS3 Has A Hardware Scaler After All
Post by: Eiksirf on January 26, 2007, 09:40:14 AM
Anyone who says "fanboi" is a toolbag.
Title: PS3 Has A Hardware Scaler After All
Post by: Samwise on January 26, 2007, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: Eiksirf
Anyone who says "fanboi" is a toolbag.

No, that\'s too kind. Huge fucking faggot is more like it.
Title: PS3 Has A Hardware Scaler After All
Post by: Unicron! on January 26, 2007, 02:41:24 PM
Not exactly on topic but since we are talking about resolutions it seems that VF5 is confirmed native 1080p :)