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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: GmanJoe on April 02, 2007, 04:24:36 AM
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Wii Sports rules all. But that\'s about it.
Tiger Woods game is subpar to the PS2 version and its menu system was made by a retard. I think it\'ll ask you up to three times "Are you sure you want to save?"
I bought Wario Ware for my wife\'s cousins to play with while we were at the beach. The 5 second mini-games are for people with extreme ADD. Though some games were funny, 5 second intervals is stupid IMO. Definitely for the party only, stay away from this game if you\'re a basement dwelling soloist.
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WarioWare has always been like that.
Though I agree that the Wii has been given very gimmicky software so far.
Give it time.
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I\'ve heard developers have had to wait as much as 3 months for the developer\'s kits. Just how many companies are making games for the Wii? Jeebus.
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I haven\'t played it yet to vouch for it, but apparently the Godfather is a great example of a fully fleshed out game with innovative controls.
I know the base game was generic, but they\'ve added variety and missions on top of the controls, so it has the potential to live up to the hype some Wii fans have given it.
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my neighbor says his kids are sick of wii sports and haven\'t touched it in a week. perhaps when some more games come out.
where are you, third party?
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It\'s the remote issues (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/02/cooking-mama-cook-off-highlights-wii-remote-issues/) that kills it as an idea for me. It\'s a neat idea, but you need to really be able to almost perfectly read the position of the remote to work with games in a precise manner, as is critiqued in that article.
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ps3 is a dvd player
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can it play my cds though? and it better have that damn virtual light machine that changes with the beat, it\'s the 90s for pete\'s sake
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Wii and music CDs don\'t mix. Sorry.
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where are you, third party?
The top reason I haven\'t got a Wii yet. Nintendo has the best first party titles but that can only go so far in my book.
After I\'m done with Mario Party, and Super Mario Galaxy there isn\'t much left besides various Mario spinoffs. (I\'m not too interested in Metroid, Zelda or Smash Bros.)
I just can\'t bring myself to spend $250 for 2 games that will probably end up not being that great. A motion controller is great fun but it doesnt justify $250. I\'ll definity pick it up when it drops below $200 though.
You may ask why did I throw $600 to Sony when they have a very small game library right now, just like Nintendo.
Well the answer is when I bought a PS3 I\'m buying into the Sony brand which means the greatest variety of games and the best 3rd party developer support. If you look at it the PS3, Wii and 360 will all resemble the last generation of consoles. If you didnt like the Gamecube, you won\'t like the Wii. If you liked the Gamecube, you\'ll like the Wii Same thing with the Xbox/360 and PS2/PS3
Its the same reason why I left Nintendo after the SNES. The 64 just lacked great 3rd party games unlike the PS1. I remember not renting the 64 because it had no games. So I rented the PS1 and once I played all its great games the rest was history.... Same idea was true with the Gamecube and PS2.
For Nintendo to get me and I\'m sure others to buy their consoles sooner they need to:
- release a standalone full fledged Mario and Zelda game every 2 years, not every 5 years
- Create a new franchise or something. Stop making Mario spinoffs and start working on the next ratchet and clank or crash bandicoot killer. Mario and Zelda\'s gameplay hasn\'t changed in decades. They\'re both still save the princess and jump on goomba and kill gandorf. For crying out loud, Mario is becoming so over used and recycled that they\'ve put him in space now, almost like a bad horror movie looking for some fresh plot :(
Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m sure I\'ll enjoy the new Mario, but the writing is on the wall. Nintendo needs a new franchise. Sony is creating new franchises all the time with God of War, Getaway etc. Nintendo needs to follow or be left behind.
- Increase 3rd party games. Last on the list but certainly not the least important. Nintendo may have hurt them selves in making the Wii so weak. Alot of developers may not be able to or want to port their game to it becaus eof the wide difference in power.
Right now the Wii is running on Hype and we all know hype dies down after a while. Nintendo did what they had to do in desgining the Wii to survive this generation, but if they want to get to that next step and seriously challenge MS and Sony they are going to have to follow my 3 points of advice.
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Wii development has a couple of options to go :
- new games with new ways of using the wii remote interface & better accuracy at that
- quality traditional games which do not necessarily rely upon wii remote mechanics
- wii games with extremely spot on physics play & visual effects combining that with at least reasonable graphics.
The last item is something which, i think, PS3 & Xb360 will walk away with while Wii will struggle since it lacks the speed to power games like Star Wars : The Force Unleashed (Euphoria engine), Assassin\'s Creed etc.
When such games arrive, PS3 and Xb360 will actually show us what next gen is all about ; new interactivity through better physics & Ai. Call it.. an evolution since the HL2 era.
From there on, Wii\'s fun factor of it\'s interface innovation, will compare smaller to the fun factor of the true 2nd wave of PS3 & Xb360 games.
Of course, the low Wii pricepoint will save it from doom.
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Save it from doom?
Pretty sure Wii isn\'t even close to a doom position yet. Pretty sure it\'s doing better than Xbox360 and Ps3 at the moment.
Pretty sure you\'re an idiot.
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Jumpman, the problem is alot of industry watchers are seriously wondering if the Wii is going to hit a brick wall.
Remember the Dreamcast? Stores couldnt order enough, just like the Wii today until, as a Sega employee said, "Things just shut down" True, it was the PS2 that had a big part in killing the Dreamcast. The only reason why the PS3 didn\'t give the Wii the same fate is because of price. Price and the Wii-Mote saved the Wii. Nintendo did what they had to do to survive like I mentioned earlier.
One major worry is that the only real upgrade of the system is the motion controller.
The motion controller is great but is it going to keep people interested for the next 5-6 years until the next Nintendo Console?
The problem is when I look at the Wii I see the Nintendo Gamecube with a motion controller. Not much more or less.
But the motion controller is a huge +. Because of it the Wii will do better then the Gamecube but how much better? I don\'t know yet.
Knotter8 makes a good point about the price. I seriously doubt Wii would be selling better then the 360 or PS3 if it didn\'t cost half as much. At such a low price people can simply say, "That looks cool" and buy it. How much longer until the \'that looks cool\' wears off and people buy the Wii for the games?
I\'ve heard alot about PS3 games sucking but after looking at the Wii games at the store it doesnt seem to be fairing much better.
Again, the top 2 reasons for the Wii\'s success have to be price and the \'looks fun\' factor. How long will those 2 factors keep the Wii selling like it is? If Nintendo wants to keep the pace up they need to get on the ball and not repeat the mistakes of the Gamecube.
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which watchers are these?
The only reason why the PS3 didn\'t give the Wii the same fate is because of price. Price and the Wii-Mote saved the Wii. Nintendo did what they had to do to survive like I mentioned earlier.
PS3 had nothing going for it when it came out besides being an overpriced blue-ray player. Wii had everything going for it when it came out. Biiiiiiiig difference.
such a low price people can simply say, "That looks cool" and buy it. How much longer until the \'that looks cool\' wears off and people buy the Wii for the games?
PS1-2 made its living off being the cool console. Guess two generations is your answer.
And that\'s about all I have for today.
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which watchers are these?
PS3 had nothing going for it when it came out besides being an overpriced blue-ray player. Wii had everything going for it when it came out. Biiiiiiiig difference.
PS1-2 made its living off being the cool console. Guess two generations is your answer.
And that\'s about all I have for today.
I can\'t get the exact link, but on G4TV\'s website there is a video under attack of the show. It is called \'IS PS3 doomed\' or something like that. Watch that and one of the insiders says \'There\'s still a possiblity the Wii could be a failure\'
The only thing that the Wii had going for it was the Big 2, the \'that looks cool factor\' aka hype, and price. The Wii is ahead of the PS3 in those 2 categories. And at launch, PS3 was $500 cheaper then the cheapest blu-ray player. How is that overpriced?
I also disagree PS1 and PS2 were dominate because they were \'cool\'. PS1 and PS2 offered the best software of the consoles of their generation, most would agree.
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Save it from doom?
Pretty sure Wii isn\'t even close to a doom position yet. Pretty sure it\'s doing better than Xbox360 and Ps3 at the moment.
Pretty sure you\'re an idiot.
You\'re a drama queen who overreacts to the word \'doom\' as if Wii\'s yo momma, so stfu .
" at the moment " ? There\'s your short term sight right there. hehe
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Wii sells because of the extremely low price and the newly interesting approach in controlling games. It doesnt need to have AAA titles to sell like hotcakes.
I ll get a Wii for the new Resident Evil. Other than that it will be more like a party console
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Wii sells because of the extremely low price and the newly interesting approach in controlling games. It doesnt need to have AAA titles to sell like hotcakes.
I ll get a Wii for the new Resident Evil. Other than that it will be more like a party console
Name a AAA that came out for PS2\'s launch. When you named all zero of them you\'ll know that decent, non mega franchise games really have nothing to do with the sales of a console.
You\'re a drama queen who overreacts to the word \'doom\' as if Wii\'s yo momma, so stfu .
" at the moment " ? There\'s your short term sight right there. hehe
You\'re still an idiot. Don\'t respond or you\'ll get embarrassed.
I can\'t get the exact link, but on G4TV\'s website there is a video under attack of the show. It is called \'IS PS3 doomed\' or something like that. Watch that and one of the insiders says \'There\'s still a possiblity the Wii could be a failure
Possibility is a lose word. It\'s more probably that PS3 will be more of a failure than Wii from a current standpoint. Wii continues to outsell it with literally nothing, Xbox360 is pretty steady as she goes, and PS3 is depending on the franchises to shine some light.
The only thing that the Wii had going for it was the Big 2, the \'that looks cool factor\' aka hype, and price. The Wii is ahead of the PS3 in those 2 categories.
Still ahead, and the games are equal if not better for originality factor. The Wii is the equivalent to the IPOD now. Wii is also leeches the success of Nintendo\'s handheld efforts, which have embarrassed PSP and other consoles alike.
And at launch, PS3 was $500 cheaper then the cheapest blu-ray player. How is that overpriced?
Meant to say DVD player, even then people aren\'t burning their old DVD players to buy em.
I also disagree PS1 and PS2 were dominate because they were \'cool\'. PS1 and PS2 offered the best software of the consoles of their generation, most would agree.
PS1 was the most overrated console in history bar none. The top N64 games manage to outsell the top PSX games even with a 3 to 1 advantage. It did better because it was the new cool. Same with PS2. If the best software was relevant then DC should of been spanking PS2 for the first year. But it didn\'t. It was Sega so it died. Everyone seems to agree that Wii has no software yet its spanking the competition. I guess you could make the argument that DS is humiliating PSP because of software, but PSP is a novelty.
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Name a AAA that came out for PS2\'s launch. When you named all zero of them you\'ll know that decent, non mega franchise games really have nothing to do with the sales of a console.
Who talked about franchise games?
PS2 was selling due to fame, high expectations on certain exclusive games and continued to sell greatly because these expected titles were finally being released plus more. Wii is selling for the above reasons I mentioned (which doesnt include the mentioning of mega franchise games).
There is nothing more into it
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And that\'s about all I have for today.
you didn\'t keep your word eh
You\'re still an idiot. Don\'t respond or you\'ll get embarrassed.
I respond whenever i like to. Your initial post didn\'t have anything on my argument on this topic, so you\'re the idiotic fool without brains. You embarrassed yourself the moment you came flopping down on earth\'s soil.
Anyway, the points of my initial post still stand (and yes, the word \'doom\' was a slight exaggeration.) You still may want to try, to respond intelligently to those points.
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you didn\'t keep your word eh
Actually, I responded at 11:55 pm. When the clock hits 12 am typically a new day starts. That\'s usually the way it works.
I respond whenever i like to. Your initial post didn\'t have anything on my argument on this topic, so you\'re the idiotic fool without brains. You embarrassed yourself the moment you came flopping down on earth\'s soil.
You\'ve always been kind of an embarrassing member of console debating. Always one step above the all time greats like rastalant, always putting in random points you\'ve found at ihumpsonyproductsintheass.com. No one ever responds, because no one really wants to put in the time to actually say no, this is how it is, then repeat this process an infinite amount of times.
Anyway, the points of my initial post still stand (and yes, the word \'doom\' was a slight exaggeration.
Exactly, it was a huge exaggeration, and you were completely wrong on all accounts.
When such games arrive, PS3 and Xb360 will actually show us what next gen is all about ; new interactivity through better physics & Ai. Call it.. an evolution since the HL2 era.
From there on, Wii\'s fun factor of it\'s interface innovation, will compare smaller to the fun factor of the true 2nd wave of PS3 & Xb360 games.
That\'s a horrible point, hence why I didn\'t feel the need to argue it. First of all, it\'s pure speculation. These games may never arive. Gears of War is probably as much of an evolution there will be. See DC for reference. Better graphics, better everything, and not much of a difference in fun factor from any other of the 3d systems and look how it COMPLETELY DOMINATED THE FUN FACTOR BECAUSE OF ITS AWESOME POTENTIAL.
You tried to somehow peg the Wii off as a failure way before it could ever being considered one. You lost this argument right there. Wii is dominating, PS3 is struggling to get by. Face reality.
Wii is selling for the above reasons I mentioned
Yeah, I hate interesting new ideas for gaming and low prices. Fuck Nintendo.
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Again, you have completely missed points 1 & 2 of my initial post.
Unlike you seem to think, my posts are never 100% pro or against any system. The fact that you think otherwise is indicative of either your lack of comprehension or just your way of interpreting them. ... and yes, we can ask other boardmembers here for opinions on that too.
to quote myself : Wii development has a couple of options to go :
- new games with new ways of using the wii remote interface & better accuracy at that
- quality traditional games which do not necessarily rely upon wii remote mechanics
I see positive points right there, yet you missed them.
Actually, Gmanjoe\'s post rants solely about the Wii and compares 1 single multi platform game to a PS2 version.
Then you jump in (lol) and post " ps3 is a dvd player "
You add nothing... nothing of any relevant counter argument to Gmanjoe\'s rant. You failed.
I merely stated, that due to PS3\'s and Xb360\'s proc power, that physics and Ai will take gaming fun to a next level, thus creating a noticable gap between them and Wii gaming. For fuck sake, go and look up those game titles i mentioned. You might be pleasantly surprised :)
Clearly, you were over sensitive to the word \'doom\'. And yeah, you may go on now saying that my, or any other person\'s post history " has always been ..blah blah " ; that\'s your white flag, right there, waving & getting more stale than a white flag can ever be. lol.
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Those were not positive points. They were blatantly obvious statements. Pointing out the uniqueness of the wii-mote has been done.
"new games with new ways of using the wii remote interface & better accuracy at that"
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"quality traditional games which do not necessarily rely upon wii remote mechanics"
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If I said, "PS3 has the way of...making better games that utilize...its controller!" is not a positive point for PS3.
I didn\'t even read Gman\'s first post. I read the title, I added a joke (which is impossible to call a counter argument roflmao), then responded to this Wii being in doom lolness.
"I merely stated, that due to PS3\'s and Xb360\'s proc power, that physics and Ai will take gaming fun to a next level, thus creating a noticable gap between them and Wii gaming."
Speculative argument, and definitely wrong. Who defines fun for one? And where\'s the breakthrough fun gap between last generation and the one before it? Oh right...there wasn\'t one. SNES-NES? ...if better physics and sounds give you your jollies then don\'t let me stop you!
I don\'t own a white flag. I have one white shirt and it hasn\'t been washed in awhile. Not a good colour on me.
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Personally, I can still see Wii tapering off and PS3 slowly building steam.
But I could also see the trends holding as they are now.
Who knows?
But for third parties, I don\'t know... The last three games I bought for Wii were made by Tecmo, Sega and EA, respectively. I\'m currently playing through an UbiSoft game before I get to the new stuff.
The next game I buy will be a Nintendo title, Super Paper Mario. But there are other games including one each by EA and Konami that I wish I had gotten to try.
Wii third party games are more often worse than they are good, but there are a good number to choose from, and a good number more in development. EA is particularly dedicated to making good games, while UbiSoft jumped out of the gates cashing in on mostly garbage... But the games are coming.
Unlikely franchises are popping up too, such as Rockstar\'s Manhunt 2. Capcom has another Resident Evil in the works and, surprise, a remake of RE4 (might be a rumor).
I\'ll still be picking up Assassin\'s Creed for the 360, or one might want Lair for PS3, but I think the Wii right now is on track for success.
And with Nintendo fan cash cows such as Super Smash Bros. and Sonic & Mario on the way, Nintendo will keep momentum regardless.
It\'s looking good for Nintendo for at least another year, in my opinion, and if they keep moving millions of systems, it\'s only going to end up more promising for third parties. Low development costs and a higher user base.
But will Nintendo fans continue to buy third party games? This is probably the only hurdle left. Hopefully what they save on development, publishers will spend on marketing.
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I have to say great thread. And jumpman really knows hows to come back with a great quip.
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Yeah, I hate interesting new ideas for gaming and low prices. Fuck Nintendo.
I love interesting ideas being implemented the right way. Not presenting them there on a gimmickly way on games that are mediocre and uninteresting at best
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"Not presenting them there on a gimmickly way on games that are mediocre and uninteresting at best"
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. That really didn\'t make sense. Reword it and get back to us.
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"Not presenting them there on a gimmickly way on games that are mediocre and uninteresting at best"
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. That really didn\'t make sense. Reword it and get back to us.
Its used uninterestingly, as a gimmick, on games that can be described only as "mediocre".
My apologies for pushing your brain cells too much
*kisses Jumpman*
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I still don\'t get it.
Blame 3rd parties for failing to do anything special with it.
And PS3 has nothing but mediocre games.
Would you just stop talking please it really does hurt my head.
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Oblivion and Resistance are not mediocre. And I like Motorstorm. I buy 1 game per month....and so far, PS3 has been a joy. Oh...and it plays PS2 games as well (playing GOW2 recently).
Wii has Wii Sports. Zelda was a let down. So far, nothing from Wii that makes me say WHEEEE! Mostly...."Oh, that was fun. But is that all?"
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Zelda, as a right now, is unquestionably better than anything PS3 has to offer. I guess every single reviewer and professional reviewer are just fuck tards.
Welcome to the minority on everything you just said.
And I\'m pretty sure Super Paper Mario will rock all sorts of cocks.
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Zelda for Wii averaged about 8.8
Oblivion for the PS3 is averaging about 9.5
You stupid canadork.
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^^^You\'re idiot everyone.
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928519.asp?q=zelda
and Elder Scrolls is a fucking port. Moot.
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It\'s on PS3, dumb ass. It\'s great on any console. I\'ve played Zelda....it\'s not as good as kids think it is. Don\'t let them fool you.
Ocarina of Time blows this newer Zelda out of the water.
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Problem with Zelda, Mario and other Nintendo franchise, is when you play them, you get this "been there, done that" feeling. Zelda\'s puzzle incorporate stuff from all the previous edition. You know there will be a fire up these 4 lamps to unlock the door.
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Problem with Zelda, Mario and other Nintendo franchise, is when you play them, you get this "been there, done that" feeling. Zelda\'s puzzle incorporate stuff from all the previous edition. You know there will be a fire up these 4 lamps to unlock the door.
tru...no doubt....i was never a big fan of the zelda series, but i was happy to see them finally give link i think it is, his more mature look, but that\'s about it...and even tho mario has been done to death..*i don\'t play anything mario*...i respect nintendo, only because of how long they have been in the business, and they know how to take care of their #1 mascot...i also respect the fact that they do not have a crazy fascination with technology, they strickly concentrate on makin\' games, while the other two game makers want to be the all in one....but i do believe nintendo could\'ve made the wii with a bit more graphical power, theres not much difference between it and the gamecube.
Lastly the wand controller is a gimmick, it\'s a nice novelty, but that is going wear thin, like i stated before, you can\'t ride your whole gaming library on a system of that nature....a few here and there tru, but you\'re going to need mainstream games to stay above water.
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oblivion (pc/360/ps3) > zelda
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didnt u say u hated first person type games like oblivion?
you change your mind or do you hate zelda?
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didnt u say u hated first person type games like oblivion?
you change your mind or do you hate zelda?
He actually enjoyed Halo, inspite of some repetitive levels. Also, I\'m the guy who doesn\'t like FPS but did enjoy Resistance.
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I still don\'t get it.
Blame 3rd parties for failing to do anything special with it.
And PS3 has nothing but mediocre games.
Would you just stop talking please it really does hurt my head.
PS3 and 360 rape Wii in terms of current and future great games.
As for who is to blame for these Wii mediocre games is a different matter.
The point is: Wii isnt selling because of good games or because of "unique" games. They are non-existent
ps: Its not my fault if your brain is untrained
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i loved halo in co-op mode.
single player and multi player were completely overrated.
wii\'s are selling cause they are cheaper, and the gimmick controller which will wear off soon enough.
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/Jumpman mode on
noes!!! you all liars! kiddy games roxs yourz boxerz.
/jumpman mode off
almost types like he is having one of those jumping tantrums. Oh, so thats where jumpman name comes from.
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Oh Soulgrind, so eager to flx your e-muscles after multiple people have already jumped over my back. No wonder your dumb ass was demoded.
It\'s on PS3, dumb ass. It\'s great on any console.
When did I say it wasn\'t on PS3? Wasn\'t my point. Notice how you were completely wrong about your scores too. Just let it slide. Non-exclusive late ports aren\'t anything special. Doesn\'t hide the fact that you mentioned two games.
Problem with Zelda, Mario and other Nintendo franchise, and any fucking franchise out there including FF, MGS, GTA, Gears of War, Madden, GTurismo, is when you play them, you get this "been there, done that" feeling
Fixed.
PS3 and 360 rape Wii in terms of current and future great games.
What a grand argument. Can\'t argue with that. :(
The point is: Wii isnt selling because of good games or because of "unique" games. They are non-existent
yes, we\'ve already established they exist and are on par or better than PS3\'s offerings. And we\'ve already established that "cool factor" is the only reason why PSX and PS2 sold kabillions. Anything else or more deja vu?
Lastly the wand controller is a gimmick, it\'s a nice novelty, but that is going wear thin, like i stated before, you can\'t ride your whole gaming library on a system of that nature....a few here and there tru, but you\'re going to need mainstream games to stay above water.
If you\'re happy playing rehashes of GTA in the same exact way then more power to you(I could point out that these games are massive gimmicks but w/e). This "gimmick" will be around for awhile, according to my future seeing crystal ball. People like it. Hence why its still selling.
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I was especially lazy today.
Played Wii a lot this afternoon. Then Guitar Hero on PS2 for a while just now.
To be fair, I used my 360 as a cd player for a bit.
Is this ok or am I not actually having fun?
Maybe I should buy a PS3?
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What a grand argument. Can\'t argue with that. :(
And PS3 has nothing but mediocre games.
Zelda, as a right now, is unquestionably better than anything PS3 has to offer.
*pats poor jumpy on the head*
And now the funniest post:
yes,[SIZE="5"] we[/SIZE] \'ve already [SIZE="5"]established they exist[/SIZE] and [SIZE="5"]are on par or better[/SIZE] than PS3\'s offerings. And [SIZE="5"]we[/SIZE]\'ve already established that [SIZE="5"]"cool factor" is the only reason why PSX and PS2 sold kabillions[/SIZE]. Anything else or more deja vu?
:laughing:
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Now that\'s a white flag if I ever saw one.
Yeah, normally I enjoy it when people I\'m arguing with give up and resort to random insults and proceed to embarrass them in that fashion, but not from Unicron lol. Knotter had enough sense to know when he was completely dominated, maybe you should take a hint.
I remember someone being banned from current events from pure stupidity. I think Unicron is next in line.
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Knotter had enough sense to know when he was completely dominated, maybe you should take a hint.
Wow, i don\'t know what exactly to think of you now, Jumpman. Seriously.
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Whenever I walk into a new room, I always picture my own personal theme song playing in the background. Something like this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MNzZzsvOClc
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As if we cared :)
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Now that\'s a white flag if I ever saw one.
Yeah, normally I enjoy it when people I\'m arguing with give up and resort to random insults and proceed to embarrass them in that fashion, but not from Unicron lol. Knotter had enough sense to know when he was completely dominated, maybe you should take a hint.
Offtopic and offensive to both me and Knotter8
These werent insults in my post. It points out your false behavior and statements to every other member.
edit: Oh and probably you didnt realise the irony of your reply to me, depicted in that post.
I remember someone being banned from current events from pure [SIZE="6"]stupidity[/SIZE]. I think Unicron is next in line.
Oh really?That was in the past though.
But currently you are the one, other members are laughing at for his fanboyish statements. Not to mention insults :)
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Who\'s we? You, Gman, and Knotter? Normally when something doesn\'t bother you the natural reaction is to avoid the situation and carry on. But you do care. Want a hug?
Did you just figure out some of the [SIZE="7"]ADVANCED[/SIZE] features of post reply 5 minutes ago?? :laughing: And what the hell is false behaviour? That\'s a new term I haven\'t heard on an internet message board. Wonder how many psychology classes you\'ve been in where you\'ve heard that term being used. My statements were also correct. You have done nothing but reply with dull and unfunny responses to all of my arguments while making incoherent points that have been repeatedly proven wrong or speculative arguments that have no real value in the present.
But currently you are the one, other members are laughing at for his fanboyish statements
All of your posts have been far more fanboyish than anything in recent memory of this forum. Wii games mediocre? PS3 will rape in the future (lol)?
And as for the insult part, I hope everyone enjoys my insults. They\'re pretty funny yeah I agree with you there. But as you probably don\'t recall.
My apologies for pushing your brain cells too much
Can\'t be helped if you wanted to turn this into a bash fest and cry out of it when you can\'t reply with anything more sophisticated than "UR STUPIDD". The irony....IT BURNS.
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Getting back on the subject, I still haven\'t found a solid game I like on the Wii. I did enjoy Rayman a bit but it was too short and again, it was mainly mini-games.
There is one game I know will kick ass and that\'s Mario Party. Damn thing has been delayed though.
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That\'s first time i\'ve ever seen that Dennis Leary video!....too funny..:laughing:
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[SIZE="1"]Who\'s we? You, Gman, and Knotter? Normally when something doesn\'t bother you the natural reaction is to avoid the situation and carry on. But you do care. Want a hug?
Did you just figure out some of the ADVANCEDfeatures of post reply 5 minutes ago?? :laughing: And what the hell is false behaviour? That\'s a new term I haven\'t heard on an internet message board. Wonder how many psychology classes you\'ve been in where you\'ve heard that term being used. My statements were also correct. You have done nothing but reply with dull and unfunny responses to all of my arguments while making incoherent points that have been repeatedly proven wrong or speculative arguments that have no real value in the present.
All of your posts have been far more fanboyish than anything in recent memory of this forum. Wii games mediocre? PS3 will rape in the future (lol)?
And as for the insult part, I hope everyone enjoys my insults. They\'re pretty funny yeah I agree with you there. But as you probably don\'t recall.
Can\'t be helped if you wanted to turn this into a bash fest and cry out of it when you can\'t reply with anything more sophisticated than "UR STUPIDD". The irony....IT BURNS.[/SIZE]
Whatever Jumpy whatever. Keep talking to yourself. You are the only person who believes what you say :yawn:
Getting back on the subject, I still haven\'t found a solid game I like on the Wii. I did enjoy Rayman a bit but it was too short and again, it was mainly mini-games.
There is one game I know will kick ass and that\'s Mario Party. Damn thing has been delayed though.
Yeah but how long will party games last in single player? They are best enjoyied with friends.
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[SIZE="1"]Who\'s we? You, Gman, and Knotter? Normally when something doesn\'t bother you the natural reaction is to avoid the situation and carry on. But you do care. Want a hug?
Did you just figure out some of the ADVANCEDfeatures of post reply 5 minutes ago?? :laughing: And what the hell is false behaviour? That\'s a new term I haven\'t heard on an internet message board. Wonder how many psychology classes you\'ve been in where you\'ve heard that term being used. My statements were also correct. You have done nothing but reply with dull and unfunny responses to all of my arguments while making incoherent points that have been repeatedly proven wrong or speculative arguments that have no real value in the present.
All of your posts have been far more fanboyish than anything in recent memory of this forum. Wii games mediocre? PS3 will rape in the future (lol)?
And as for the insult part, I hope everyone enjoys my insults. They\'re pretty funny yeah I agree with you there. But as you probably don\'t recall.
Can\'t be helped if you wanted to turn this into a bash fest and cry out of it when you can\'t reply with anything more sophisticated than "UR STUPIDD". The irony....IT BURNS.[/SIZE]
Whatever Jumpy whatever.. You are the one using insults and calling others stupid. Keep talking to yourself. :yawn:
Getting back on the subject, I still haven\'t found a solid game I like on the Wii. I did enjoy Rayman a bit but it was too short and again, it was mainly mini-games.
There is one game I know will kick ass and that\'s Mario Party. Damn thing has been delayed though.
Yeah but how long will party games last in single player? They are best enjoyied with friends.
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Yeah I tend to point out when people are being stupid. But again, who initiated it between us?
My apologies for pushing your brain cells too much
*kisses Jumpman*
Maybe you missed that the last time.
I also found a nice little email that someone from this thread must of sent to Ign Wii. http://wii.ign.com/mail/
Hi Guys,
I have to ask what you think of all the press that have started casting predictions of a nose dive for the Wii? I got it about two months ago and I love it I already own five games, my favorites being SSX and Wario Ware. I have also rented a number of games including Godfather and Sonic, with the former really impressing me with its controller. With all these positives, and more games on the horizon that excite me, why do these critics claim there are no new games and the ones that come out are all crap? Am I fooling myself?
You\'re talking about specialist press here, yeah? I don\'t think I\'ve seen a single article from anybody in the mainstream that predicts doom and gloom for Wii. I\'ve noticed that some game journalists (the hardcore crowd) have suggested Wii will bomb once people get over the novelty or wake up altogether. I don\'t really subscribe to the theory. Don\'t get me wrong. I do have some worries about how Wii games will look next to Xbox 360 and PS3 ones in two years. Already we\'re seeing a pretty magnificent difference. But at the same time, I\'m not entirely convinced it will matter. I believe that some of these games journalists are applying the same fundamentals that shaped our industry to Wii, which is an entirely different beast. I\'m quite certain that these same people probably predicted Nintendo\'s new console to flop from the start, and look what happened - it certainly isn\'t flopping.
Pokemon Battle Revolution. Super Mario Galaxy. Metroid Prime 3. Super Smash Bros. Brawl. These titles are going to sell the system to the hardcore and anybody who suggests Wii is going to suddenly flop is simply ignored the lineup. But even if they never came out, I think Wii could find a huge audience with a different type of gamer in titles like Wii Sports 2, Mario and Sonic at the Olympics, Wii Health Pack, Brain Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree, WordPlay and Boogie. This new gamer - supposing he can be tapped -- is potentially much bigger than the hardcore section and some of these game journalists really need to wake up to that truth, too.
-- Matt
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You got the most appropriate reply since you are deliberately pretending(HOPEFULLY) you dont understand .
As for the link thanks for providing me something I already read, which is also irrelevant. Nobody talked about doom and gloom for the Wii in this thread. Also I know and knew these titles mentioned beforhand yet my opinion as well as of many others who also know these titles still feel the same about Wii\'s offerings especially the current ones.
I am giving it the benefit of the doubt that things may change though (as always and I many times defended it in the past) and I am already planning to buy it despite its lacklaster offerings. But that doesnt mean I wont be objective.
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Wrongs, 180\'s on, new unmentioned points, my work is done.
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Unmentioned points? Which are? Also explain the relevancy of this link.
I agree. Your work is done when the only person you convince is yourself :)
ps: learn the difference between a 180 turn and a 360 turn *kisses jumpman*
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Relevancy of the link? Are you fucking kidding me? No I won\'t explain it, figure it out.
*kisses the large piece of brainless flesh*
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thread= wii sells but so far it\'s been a gimmick
link= please sir can you tell me if my Wii is going to nose dive?
and stop kissing yourself
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Wii is not a gimmick in the negative sense that you try to say it is. It\'s a gaming system, nothing more or less. I suppose the controller is too scary for you to comprehend? You are but a simple caveman, perhaps? Our advanced ways frighten you, it seems?
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsnltranscripts.jt.org%2F91%2Fpics%2F91gcavemanlawyer3.jpg&hash=4ee7b3a00f293760500c5c7b4d320c6bd0ee515c)
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/91gcaveman.phtml (http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/91gcaveman.phtml)
Please advise me as to the relevancy of that link.
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It\'s a gimmick right now, because no "hot" games out there justify the number of console sold. The cheap price and the press around the hardware mainly sold it.
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It\'s a gimmick right now, because no "hot" games out there justify the number of console sold. The cheap price and the press around the hardware mainly sold it.
bingo!...:fro:
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Super Paper Mario totally sucks. Buy a PS3 instead. [COLOR="Black"]DO NOT READ THIS: I AM KIDDING[/COLOR]
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Wii is not a gimmick in the negative sense that you try to say it is. It\'s a gaming system, nothing more or less. I suppose the controller is too scary for you to comprehend? You are but a simple caveman, perhaps? Our advanced ways frighten you, it seems?
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/pics/91gcavemanlawyer3.jpg
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/91gcaveman.phtml (http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/91gcaveman.phtml)
Please advise me as to the relevancy of that link.
I didnt know "gimmick" translates into "scary" or "advanced".
I agree though. The controller has been mostly a gimmick so far. A gimmick feature on a gaming console. Nothing more nothing less.. Currently. I didnt say anything different. So perhaps you should explain your annoyance. Oh and that link.
It\'s a gimmick right now, because no "hot" games out there justify the number of console sold. The cheap price and the press around the hardware mainly sold it.
I agree. Thats what I was trying to say in the beginning. And I many times in the past said I am giving it the benefit of the doubt (which many times made me disagree with mm) depsite that I am still waiting for any major announcments.
This wont stop me from expressing my current impressions though.
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It\'s a gimmick right now, because no "hot" games out there justify the number of console sold. The cheap price and the press around the hardware mainly sold it.
Your logic doesn\'t make any sense to me. Look up the word gimmick.
Wii has a few gimmicks, but not because of anything you or Uni have said.
For that matter, PS3 and Xbox 360 both have gimmicks as well. I guess I don\'t see why this has become the negative buzzword for describing the Wii.
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would you prefer "fad" instead?
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Wii has a few gimmicks, but not because of anything you or Uni have said.
Because of what me and Natoma said its a gimmick? And because of what according to you?
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would you prefer "fad" instead?
At least that makes sense.
It may turn out to be a fad. I doubt it\'ll be any less successful than Gamecube though. A fad amongst the main stream public? Yeah, that could definitely happen.
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Just checked gametrailer\'s Paper Mario review btw. That looks like one fun game I ll be getting. Very nice.
But I didnt see any real use of the Wii controller
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It only uses the Wii remote. If you play it, you\'re using the remote.
I know what you mean, though, they worked in some pointing and some tacked-on motion sensing. As with Zelda before it, Super Paper Mario is a converted Gamecube game, so it was designed originally without motion sensing in mind.
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Your logic doesn\'t make any sense to me. Look up the word gimmick.
From: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimmick
1. A method of gaining customers or attracting attention by accentuating a certain trait/quality.
The Wii mote is a gimmick, in the sense that ATM, Nintendo speak of it as "Revolution" and "Innovation". It\'s their main point (with the price) of advertising.. yet, not much games fully utilize the mote.
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Yes, that\'s what a gimmick is. Each console has its own gimmicks going for it. These are good things, they sell systems, get people\'s interest.
Every Wii game I\'ve played uses the remote.
Does it use every feature of the remote? Not always. Should it? No. Only when it makes sense? That\'s more like it.
Look at the DS. Not every game makes you use the microphone, it\'s there for games that need it, and not used for games that don\'t. There\'s nothing wrong with that, and there\'s nothing wrong with the way companies have or have not used the motion sensing of the Wii remote at this point.
Companies will use it as they see fit. I just don\'t see what we\'re trying to get at with all this.
At least with the definition of gimmick out of the way, we can agree that all systems and indeed all consumer products have at least one hook or gimmick, and that that\'s not only not a bad thing, but completely normal.
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It only uses the Wii remote. If you play it, you\'re using the remote.
I know what you mean, though, they worked in some pointing and some tacked-on motion sensing. As with Zelda before it, Super Paper Mario is a converted Gamecube game, so it was designed originally without motion sensing in mind.
I ll be getting it anyways though
It\'s still different and original with or without the controller :)
I ve noticed that it has some classic stages of the old times remade as well, which brings nostalgia of the good old days
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I\'ll be buying it to. When I dont have to wake up saturday at 5am to lineup at futureshop.