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Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: GmanJoe on April 17, 2007, 05:53:54 AM
Thank goodness he wasn\'t a flip. I suspected it was THX for a while. Coz...you know you can\'t trust us beady eyed Asians. ;)
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: luckee on April 17, 2007, 04:31:18 PM
actually, I just knew it was a white guy and prayed it wasnt a black dude. Latin wasnt an option for the same reason Asian wasnt
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: clips on April 17, 2007, 08:52:44 PM
Quote from: luckee
actually, I just knew it was a white guy and prayed it wasnt a black dude. Latin wasnt an option for the same reason Asian wasnt


no doubt...i thought the same thing...white folk are kinda notorious for stuff like this.....but after that fiasco that was the interstate 95 sniper, who was black i now know anything is possible....anyway,reports coming out concerning this guy turning up some really weird behavior, when he was asked to sign his name, all he put was a question mark,...he was really quiet in class, kept to himself, and when was assigned to write some type of story for one of his classes,..it involved alot of violent and disturbing literature...it was so distrubing that it was stated that the teacher advised him to get counseling within the school...he also wrote some disturbing notes as well...but these types of things always turn up after the fact....
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Bozco on April 17, 2007, 09:15:55 PM
One of his english teachers went to the police but since he didn\'t speak of violence specifically there was nothing they could do.  And since he never had done anything wrong and had all the legit papers he was able to get the guns legally.  Go figure to all of this, terribly sad.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Jumpman on April 17, 2007, 09:28:07 PM
Yeah, not really the police\'s fault for not arresting him or following up on this based on...nothing. Lot of loners out there. Hard to tell which loners are going to go all killing sprees. Just a tragedy.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: clips on April 17, 2007, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: Jumpman
Yeah, not really the police\'s fault for not arresting him or following up on this based on...nothing. Lot of loners out there. Hard to tell which loners are going to go all killing sprees. Just a tragedy.


tru...this could have easily been a student with no problems at all, getting high grades in all of his courses, popular,...etc.....and that very same student could\'ve done somethin\' like this, just because he snapped for whatever reason....but one thing i feel that the school should\'ve had was surveillance camera\'s..which is kinda troubling that they didn\'t...
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Viper_Fujax on April 17, 2007, 10:09:23 PM
security cameras in every building?

i dont think any college has that. Mine sure as hell doesnt..probably just the library where people can steal stuff..or bums sneak in since i think its open 24/7.

This kind of thing is unavoidable. Best you can do to prepare is have a way to get as few people killed as possible.

My econ teacher actually said what happened did have some luck because had he gone to the building directly next to the one he shot in (where he used to teach), he would have been shooting at 600 people in a big lecture room, and there are only 2 exits
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: THX on April 18, 2007, 06:56:31 AM
the school doesn\'t deserve any blame in this.  They\'ve been operating for over a century and this is the first time anything on this scale ever happened.  No one could have predicted it.  It\'s like a maniac coming to your place of work with an uzi, unless you work in a heavily secure environment what\'s to stop them from taking out an entire floor of people?

It\'s just that since the killer is dead people want to blame someone.  I think more should worry about grieving than finger pointing.  I still feel pretty depressed that this happened.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Phil on April 18, 2007, 08:45:39 AM
Unfortunately, for a lot of people part of the grieving process IS pointing the blame at someone or something, and the school and its president is a prime target.  I wouldn\'t be surprised if the president of the school steps down after all this even though they had no control over the outcome.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Eiksirf on April 18, 2007, 10:01:14 AM
Here\'s a possible look into his immature and violent mind.
 
http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/ (http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/)
 
The play he wrote about the stepdad was at least a good premise.  The casino one was so awful I couldn\'t even finish reading it.
 
Violent writing is not an indication of a disturbed individual, but with hindsight, these are pretty eye opening.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: GmanJoe on April 18, 2007, 10:34:58 AM
Quote from: Eiksirf

but with hindsight, these are pretty eye opening.


Is that a pun on a phrase? And can northern Asians really OPEN their eyes?

;)
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: clips on April 18, 2007, 08:53:01 PM
well the only thing i blame the school for is that they at least should\'ve closed the place down after the first 2 murders...c\'mon two people dead on campus, and the killer is still runnin\' around on the loose, and you don\'t close the school?......but yeah now is not the time for pointin\' fingers....it\'s a shame that so many of those students was destined to be something great until this a**hole ended their lives...
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: THX on April 18, 2007, 08:58:17 PM
i dunno man VT is pretty huge.  it would be like closing down an entire town\'s businesses because of a shooting that happened on one end.

hindsight\'s always 20/20.  if he only killed two, was caught that evening, and the school wasn\'t shut down no one would have complained.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Viper_Fujax on April 18, 2007, 09:14:21 PM
They thought the girl\'s boyfriend was the person who killed her and the other person, so they were questioning him while the killer was running to the other side of the school.

My professor also said it\'s in a rural area, so shutting down the school is really hard as opposed to a heavily populated area like my school where u just need to shut down the highway and a couple main streets to stop anyone from going in.

I actually got an email from my school saying there was a threat for tomorrow, and to be "more aware of their surroundings." That wont make you paranoid at all,lol. FBI said it was a hoax, so we still have school.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: clips on April 19, 2007, 01:21:19 AM
as you all probably know by now....the reason why there was a two hour gap between the massacre was because he was sending videos and letters about what he was about to do to msnbc....here are some pics of him....s**t is just unreal....


http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/fc/US/virginia_tech_shootings/feature_articles/SIG=12acvcb96;_ylt=AlpY7Vzey.xslgIwGxGaECZH2ocA/*http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18183171/displaymode/1107/s/2/framenumber/1/
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Coredweller on April 19, 2007, 08:11:20 AM
This thread should be moved to Current Events.
 
I was thinking, why was this guy able to buy two pistols?  He had been reported to the police for stalking, and had a psychiatric evaluation in which the doctor checked the box indicating that he was a "danger to himself."  (He DIDN\'T check the box that he was a danger to others... that\'s a whole different issue... I can\'t believe that the failsafe for our entire system of dealing with the criminally insane is one guy choosing to check on box on a form somewhere... )
 
Yet this guy\'s background didn\'t get communicated to the people who handle approving firearm permits.  They just ran their default checks, "no felonies convictions, no warrants," whatever, and they rubber stamped him A-OK.  I\'m not in favor of banning guns, but there is something seriously wrong with our gun laws when we let just any crazy asshole buy a gun and clear the background checks.
 
I\'m not saying that every gun buyer needs to have a psychiatric evaluation, but IF YOU DID HAPPEN TO HAVE ONE for some other reason, that information should be considered when they are reviewing your gun permit.  That seems pretty reasonable to me.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Eiksirf on April 19, 2007, 09:18:52 AM
Great point.
 
In light of this, I\'ve decided I\'m ok with legal arms possession, but making it hard to get one in the first place would be good.
 
Though I suppose there are other ways to obtain a gun if you really want one.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Luke on April 19, 2007, 09:24:22 AM
Quote from: Eiksirf
Here\'s a possible look into his immature and violent mind.
 
http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/ (http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/)
 
The play he wrote about the stepdad was at least a good premise.  The casino one was so awful I couldn\'t even finish reading it.
 
Violent writing is not an indication of a disturbed individual, but with hindsight, these are pretty eye opening.


His writing is horrible.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Eiksirf on April 19, 2007, 09:35:23 AM
Yeah the one that starts in a casino was so bad I couldn\'t finish reading it.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Luke on April 19, 2007, 09:42:12 AM
I actually read \'em both.


Is that all the writing skill it takes to be an English major in college? Sheesh.

I can understand why his teachers thought he might have problems. Both plays are childishly angry.

He has (had) the writing style of a pissy 9 year old.
Title: Cho Seung-Hui is the shooter of the VT Massacre
Post by: Titan on April 19, 2007, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: clips
as you all probably know by now....the reason why there was a two hour gap between the massacre was because he was sending videos and letters about what he was about to do to msnbc....here are some pics of him....s**t is just unreal....


http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/fc/US/virginia_tech_shootings/feature_articles/SIG=12acvcb96;_ylt=AlpY7Vzey.xslgIwGxGaECZH2ocA/*http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18183171/displaymode/1107/s/2/framenumber/1/


That shit creeped me out. I\'m not gonna lie.