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Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video AND pics (best looking next gen game)
Post by: clowd on July 17, 2007, 09:35:02 AM
http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/movie/d944.html

Check it out...incredible in cockpit views, AI seems smarter and, 16 CARS on track at once!  I for one thought it was impossible with the insane detail of the cars but PD has done it somehow

16 cars on track
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg155.imagevenue.com%2Fimg.php%3Fimage%3D71134_ac0009h_122_927lo.jpg&hash=5e8e63becfee0f6fc91d0998e00453969cf088b6)

Insanely detailed interior and exterior
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg514.imageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Dgt5pro61cm4.jpg&hash=11771c114aa2c2631f87d0de11ce251d978a65f1)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg524.imageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Dgt5pro58ks9.jpg&hash=4504bb1a7dfe1b327a43a546165c03eb924fb605)

Insanely detailed pits
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg524.imageshack.us%2Fmy.php%3Fimage%3Dgt5pro40rz2.jpg&hash=256659df9c9020274ba039571d150401bf59ce52)
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Evi on July 17, 2007, 11:57:57 AM
Looks good...but I want to see in-game footage, not that replay crap.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Phil on July 17, 2007, 01:17:20 PM
Those insanely detailed pics of the insanely detailed interior are just insane.  I just can\'t believe how INSANE they are.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Jumpman on July 17, 2007, 02:25:18 PM
They\'re Holy Insane!
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Unicron! on July 17, 2007, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: Phil
Those insanely detailed pics of the insanely detailed interior are just insane.  I just can\'t believe how INSANE they are.
You have to see the IGN trailer. The driver\'s animation is upper realistic. His hands even change position realistically on the wheel while he turns! In other racers the drivers hands give the impression that they are stuck on both sides of the wheel with super glue. Only when they had to change gear their hand left the wheel and even then it move too fast and too mechanically. This looks like the driver was actually motion captured.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Evi on July 17, 2007, 04:31:31 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/5158.html
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: videoholic on July 17, 2007, 06:49:08 PM
I have a boner.



I haven\'t seen the video yet though.  Just wanted to let you know the status of my penis.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Phil on July 18, 2007, 08:38:08 AM
Quote from: Unicron!
You have to see the IGN trailer. The driver\'s animation is upper realistic. His hands even change position realistically on the wheel while he turns! In other racers the drivers hands give the impression that they are stuck on both sides of the wheel with super glue. Only when they had to change gear their hand left the wheel and even then it move too fast and too mechanically. This looks like the driver was actually motion captured.


perhaps the sarcasm wasn\'t laid on thick enough....
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: clowd on July 18, 2007, 10:50:48 AM
Quote from: Phil
Those insanely detailed pics of the insanely detailed interior are just insane.  I just can\'t believe how INSANE they are.


Look at this comparison of a real interior vs the GT5 counterpart


(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bmwworld.com%2Fpics%2Fz4%2F7813_1024.jpg&hash=e18c6a9d134421f9552ffc0b56727c7a390a6681)


(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamespot.com%2Fpages%2Fimage_viewer%2Fframe_lead.php%3Fpid%3D942026%26img%3D13&hash=e08804c3c3f26a71367915bd2eba3416af99edda)

The first video game I\'ve seen that has Hollywood quality graphics.  Incredible, no not incredible, INSANE

EDIT: Here is some pictures

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/gt5p/screen/
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Kurt Angle on July 18, 2007, 11:48:55 AM
I am still wanking over these. ;)
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Cerberus on July 18, 2007, 01:17:03 PM
kurt\'s got stamina, REAL stamina.

:D
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Unicron! on July 18, 2007, 04:52:32 PM
Quote from: Phil
perhaps the sarcasm wasn\'t laid on thick enough....

Oh ok. Dont watch the trailer then
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: clowd on July 26, 2007, 05:13:18 PM
The most beautifull game in existance

http://www.tg-media.net/famitsu/2007/july25/img062_marked.jpg

http://www.tg-media.net/famitsu/2007/july25/img063_marked.jpg

So impressive
http://www.tg-media.net/famitsu/2007/july25/img064_marked.jpg

http://www.tg-media.net/famitsu/2007/july25/img065_marked.jpg

Look at that Viper...
http://www.tg-media.net/famitsu/2007/july25/img066_marked.jpg
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Phil on July 26, 2007, 07:28:25 PM
I know i\'ve asked this before but are you sure Sony isn\'t paying you to make these posts?  And if not they really should.

Sure the game looks really nice but you sound like a walking sony advert.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Viper_Fujax on July 26, 2007, 08:33:25 PM
Quote from: Phil
I know i\'ve asked this before but are you sure Sony isn\'t paying you to make these posts?  And if not they really should.

Sure the game looks really nice but you sound like a walking sony advert.


thats why i get pissed off at all of his posts. I feel like a M$ fanboy with how annoyed i get from him. im really not..just like to play devil\'s advocate, especially if you annoy me :D
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: clowd on July 27, 2007, 07:19:18 AM
I\'ll be a walking Polyphony Digital advertisement anyday.  ViperFujax,  I\'m not hyping PS3,  I\'m hyping GT5 in this thread.  This game is extrordinary.  It crosses boundaries that have never been crossed.  Ok maybe I\'m talking off the wall but what PD has done is amazing

http://www.gamersyde.com/gallery_5970_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/gallery_5969_en.html
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Phil on July 27, 2007, 12:39:36 PM
Exactly what are these mythical boundaries this game is supposed to cross?
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Soul Reaver on July 27, 2007, 01:51:02 PM
I don\'t know about crossing boundaries, but the guys making this game are very dedicated to making the cars look, act, and feel right. Very impressive stuff, for sure.

It\'s a shame that they cannot put a damage model in though.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Unicron! on July 27, 2007, 01:53:43 PM
Ok I think he is overreacting with his statements.

But I have to admit that PD is probably trying to achieve and put too much at the same time in one single game.

I find their effort very remarkable and if the end product ends up with all the things they are planning to include GT5 will be quite an achievement. Probably  the biggest a racing game has ever tried to achieve.

I mean....I ve read some of the features they are planning to put in the final product and I was left speechless. On top of that some images I ve seen show a very impressive attention to detail. The pit-stop sequence shown in the E3 trailer I thought it was CGI and impossible to be reproduced in real time. Well at the end Polyphony Showed images of that sequence in real time. It was a part of the gameplay. The only difference is that it is 30fps
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Evi on July 27, 2007, 07:06:33 PM
clowd...

Calm down.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: JBean on July 27, 2007, 07:56:21 PM
is it going to be online?

and do the cars actually have decent ai now instead of driving on rails?

there are other racing games out there with licensed cars & damage.. why again can GT5 not have this included?
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: clips on July 27, 2007, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: JBean
is it going to be online?

and do the cars actually have decent ai now instead of driving on rails?

there are other racing games out there with licensed cars & damage.. why again can GT5 not have this included?



that was one of my quirks with racin\' games,..i hated the fact that the computer drove on rails...they never really challenged to over take you, even if they had one of the more faster cars on the track. i really don\'t care about damage that much,...when they can get the AI strong enough to actually drive like human drivers, then maybe...cause the way the AI  is now, and because they\'re so pre=programmed on the rail system, they\'ll run into you instead of tryin\' to avoid you....
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Unicron! on July 27, 2007, 08:43:46 PM
Quote from: JBean
is it going to be online?

and do the cars actually have decent ai now instead of driving on rails?

there are other racing games out there with licensed cars & damage.. why again can GT5 not have this included?

what games are you reffering to?
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Phil on July 27, 2007, 08:46:23 PM
Quote from: Soul Reaver
I don\'t know about crossing boundaries, but the guys making this game are very dedicated to making the cars look, act, and feel right. Very impressive stuff, for sure.

It\'s a shame that they cannot put a damage model in though.


They can, but they won\'t.  It would take them way too much time and I doubt it\'ll ever be on their agenda.  Besides, I\'ll take a better AI over damage modeling.

Its a shame that this great looking game will bore me to tears, at least if its anything like GT4.  The only way I\'ll get interested in the game is if it has a robust online multiplayer.  The single player gets so damn old so fast.  I can only go around the same track so many times against the same stupid AI.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: JBean on July 27, 2007, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
what games are you reffering to?


I believe forza 2 has some superficial damage, you can\'t total a car.. but it does affect the top speed & handling

better than nothing
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Viper_Fujax on July 27, 2007, 10:31:45 PM
dirt has some amazing damage too. might even be one of the better parts of the game,lol. not saying its a bad game, since im having fun with it.

i figure theyll make this GT awesome in gameplay and graphics..maybe GT6 theyll put in damage on top of the gameplay and graphics from this game
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Unicron! on July 28, 2007, 12:59:39 PM
Quote from: JBean
I believe forza 2 has some superficial damage, you can\'t total a car.. but it does affect the top speed & handling

better than nothing
Forza\'s developers said that have went through a lot of trouble to put that limited damage though. They had to have permission from manufacturers for each car who had to check the state of that damage feature and refine it according to their demands

It wasnt an easy task.

GT will have 700+ cars according to an interview. Also the man behind the developer said that he d want a realistic damage feature than an unrealistic one.  And the manufacturers arent letting for that. Thats why Forza doesnt have a prober damage feature. The real problem are commercial cars. These are the cars that the manufacturers dont want to present to consumers damaged. I know they are exaggerating but thats how things are.

Because of this PD did say that they are planning to add damage. But only to special racing sports cars if they are going to add it. These are not meant for commercial use.This should have cars such as F1 cars, rally cars and the likes.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Viper_Fujax on July 28, 2007, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: Unicron!
Forza\'s developers said that have went through a lot of trouble to put that limited damage though. They had to have permission from manufacturers for each car who had to check the state of that damage feature and refine it according to their demands



as insane as that sounds, that seems possible
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on July 29, 2007, 12:18:33 AM
They\'ve gone to the extent of having in game cockpits and rear interiors, I would say they are gonna surprise everyone and have damage modeling too.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Viper_Fujax on July 29, 2007, 12:38:21 AM
its not something that would just pop in a game. id be more than astonishily surprised if they added damage like it was adding some little quirk to the game..and i dont even have a word for that
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Soul Reaver on July 29, 2007, 04:04:20 AM
Quote from: ##RaCeR##
They\'ve gone to the extent of having in game cockpits and rear interiors, I would say they are gonna surprise everyone and have damage modeling too.

No, there\'s an interview out there where the creator said they will not.

Each car took an insane amount of time to create and adding a damage system would be both costly and time consuming. I\'d bet they\'ll save it for GT6.

Anyway, the Forza 2 damage modeling was sufficient for a sim racer. It\'s no Burnout, because that would be a bit too exaggerated, don\'t you think?

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa319%2FRanced%2Fforzawesome.gif&hash=09a2c6681dc9acec75629d57bf92c26e245bce70)

edit: Don\'t mind the "thread derailed", it hasn\'t. I just like this crash in Forza 2. Seems out of place though since the damage system is obviously turned down for this one race.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: ##RaCeR## on July 30, 2007, 03:30:49 AM
Still not convinced, he\'s been touting damage since GT2, blah blah blah. The technicalities and excuses for it not being in are few and far between. I imagine there will be superficial damage like scratches and panels etc, but I don\'t think you will be able to total your car.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Unicron! on July 30, 2007, 08:18:44 AM
Quote from: Soul Reaver
No, there\'s an interview out there where the creator said they will not.

Each car took an insane amount of time to create and adding a damage system would be both costly and time consuming. I\'d bet they\'ll save it for GT6.

Anyway, the Forza 2 damage modeling was sufficient for a sim racer. It\'s no Burnout, because that would be a bit too exaggerated, don\'t you think?

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi14.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa319%2FRanced%2Fforzawesome.gif&hash=09a2c6681dc9acec75629d57bf92c26e245bce70)

edit: Don\'t mind the "thread derailed", it hasn\'t. I just like this crash in Forza 2. Seems out of place though since the damage system is obviously turned down for this one race.
Which interview? I ve seen another one saying that he will probably add damage for sports cars but not for commercial cars
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: GmanJoe on July 30, 2007, 11:36:07 AM
Damage for F1 cars, I think. But not for your everyday garden variety Civics and Jettas etc etc...
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: THX on July 31, 2007, 07:57:35 PM
10,000 cars??

Full car list: http://gtcenter.eu/gt/gran-turismo-5...azing-car-list

Quote
Polyphony Digital Shocks everyone with Gran Turismo 5\'s amazing car list!

As of today Sony has announced the full Gran Turismo 5 car list. It consists of 10000 cars. At launch it will only have 340 cars while the others will be developed in the future. Polyphony Digital will also develop cars for individual clients. That means in the future we could have any car put into the game for a special price. Of course the damage model will be not present in GT5. Below we are attaching the nearly official carlist of GT5. Be ready for more info in the close future!
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Phil on July 31, 2007, 08:37:44 PM
And the launch will only have 340....

Sounds like a bunch of PR bullshit if you ask me.  Took them how many years of development and they were only able to make 340?  Good luck fitting 10,000 in before the end of time.

Not that 340 is a bad number, hell the 600 something they had in GT2 was almost overwhelming, but seriously, 10,000?  Its not going to happen.  GT8 will be released before it hits that number.
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: THX on July 31, 2007, 09:19:19 PM
debunked, its a fan wishlist

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=95621
Title: GT5 Prologue - Post E3 video(must see!)
Post by: Unicron! on August 01, 2007, 05:29:31 PM
I ve heard that they are aiming for 700+