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Title: Michael Vick
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Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Cerberus on July 18, 2007, 01:10:15 PM
discuss what?
Title: Michael Vick
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Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Luke on July 18, 2007, 02:54:22 PM
Vick is a piece of shit. Plain and simple.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: mjps21983 on July 18, 2007, 03:37:34 PM
Refuckingtarded!!!!
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Cerberus on July 18, 2007, 03:41:56 PM
what did he do?
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Joker on July 18, 2007, 03:56:40 PM
apparently they found 50+ dogs or something on his property dead from dog fighting.

Or they are putting down a ton of dogs because of his poor treatment to them. Something about him being responsible for the deaths of dozens of dogs.

From good ol fox news
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289729,00.html
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Bozco on July 18, 2007, 06:24:06 PM
He always put on a nice show but all you had to do was look at his brother to see what kind of person he probably is, well is after this.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on July 18, 2007, 06:41:58 PM
He had a place where they did dog fighting.  He killed dogs who lost fights.  He had dogs electrocuted.

Yeah...  But I\'d still pick him in the 7th round.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Viper_Fujax on July 18, 2007, 09:01:10 PM
he\'ll probably just get suspended and fined...positional discrimination. If he were a d-lineman or a defensive back, hed probably be cut very soon. But hes the face of the organization so its a little tricky.

bet the falcons wish they kept shuab (sp) though
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: THX on July 18, 2007, 09:05:00 PM
hope he gets fired and serves jail time.

i will be mad if he just gets a slap on the wrist.  if this were anyone else they\'d definitely be in jail.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on July 18, 2007, 09:38:25 PM
another quality fill in the gaps retarded thread.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Jumpman on July 18, 2007, 10:12:28 PM
stfu u dirty aussie
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Viper_Fujax on July 18, 2007, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: §ôµÏG®ïñD
another quality fill in the gaps retarded thread.


its a long story..noone wants to fill in everything.

star football player in trouble for being related to dog fighting. still up in the air how big of a part he played in it. Either he was totally in it (some evidence that he was), or it was just happening at one of his houses (makes him still liable but obviously not in as much trouble).

now the big debate is whether or not hell be treated differently because hes a star player because right now in football the commissioner is coming down hard since there have been people getting in trouble with the law and 5 er so players have been cut from their teams because of their troubles

but this guy is only indicted so we have a long ways to go before anything\'s settled
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Cerberus on July 18, 2007, 10:37:19 PM
sounds like a right twat then.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on July 19, 2007, 03:51:05 AM
aparently there are over 30 NFL players that can be thrown in to this by the informants.

Man if you read some of the press, the evidense and the stuff coming out against Vick is fucking huge.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: CHIZZY on July 20, 2007, 08:46:13 AM
yeah he\'s a scumbag and I hope he gets jailtime.

What is it with black people & pit bulls? The black family on the corner near my house has little kids everywhere, and I saw yesterday that they now have a pit bull. What in the world are they thinking? "oh this pit bull won\'t randomly snap and kill my kids"?

I swear if that thing ever wanders into my yard, he\'s getting popped.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: fre4d4 on July 20, 2007, 09:40:26 AM
Probably only will get a slap on the wrist and a fine
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: mjps21983 on July 20, 2007, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: CHIZZY
yeah he\'s a scumbag and I hope he gets jailtime.

What is it with black people & pit bulls? The black family on the corner near my house has little kids everywhere, and I saw yesterday that they now have a pit bull. What in the world are they thinking? "oh this pit bull won\'t randomly snap and kill my kids"?

I swear if that thing ever wanders into my yard, he\'s getting popped.



It depends on how you treat the dog, I\'ve got a friend that has 3 pits and they are the nicest dogs in the world. I in fact wouldn\'t mind having one when I get a house. But that may change if I have a kid as I agree having them around young kids to me seems a little dangerous as they can be a little rough at times and around kids that may be a little too dangerous.

These dogs that attack people are typically abused and or trained to be this way.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Viper_Fujax on July 20, 2007, 10:04:59 AM
there\'s more to it. Pit bulls can do some serious damage no matter how trained they are.

You have a dog so im sure you\'ve accidently done this, but with my lab, hed be sleeping and i go to pet him and i end up scaring the shit out of him. All he does is pop up really fast with a confused/worried/hilarious face and starts wagging his tail a mile a minute. Had he been a pit bull, i probably wouldnt have 2 hands right now
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Evi on July 20, 2007, 10:12:34 AM
^^

You\'re making assumptions. It really does come down to the owner and not the dog.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Phil on July 20, 2007, 10:17:11 AM
dangerous dogs with kids is NEVER a good idea, I don\'t care how well trained it is.  Little kids don\'t know any better and have a tendency to do things to a dog that will make it bite on instinct (pull its tail, do other random stupid shit to it).  Unless you have the most docile dog in the world, you never know what might happen.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Evi on July 20, 2007, 11:00:40 AM
^^

Well yeah. Dogs are all about instinct. I guess you never really know with dogs.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on July 20, 2007, 03:06:25 PM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
Had he been a pit bull, i probably wouldnt have 2 hands right now



You jerk off with your thumb and middle finger anyway.

:op:
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Viper_Fujax on July 20, 2007, 03:54:53 PM
Quote from: videoholic
You jerk off with your thumb and middle finger anyway.

:op:


but i like to cup my bouls too
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: mjps21983 on July 21, 2007, 06:24:03 AM
There\'s almost danger with any dog, I have a blue healer who was pretty tame but if you fucked with him you\'d get snipped at. We had a kid stick her hand in our fence, guess what happened? She deserved it though, teasing or screwing with a dogs backyard is not cool :). I\'ve never had a situation with any of my friends pits where I felt threatened or endangered.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on July 24, 2007, 10:37:23 PM
i don\'t see what these cats get outta seein\' these dogs fight....all that money he\'s makin\' and he\'s doin\' stupid s**t like this?...and it\'s crazy what he does to the dogs that lose the fights or are seriously injured,...just throw some high end parties with some fine-ass supermodel type women and just mack...:fro:..i think he\'ll be heavily fined but the falcons are not going to get rid of the "franchise"....trust....
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on July 25, 2007, 11:52:51 PM
He won\'t be fined, he will serve time. Remember, these are federal charges and he is going against one of the roughest judges in the country. The chances of him getting out of this are very slim.  You must also take in account that Vick himself, has been in and out of trouble for a few years now, this may just be the final straw.

Then again, who is surprised? One only had to look at his little brother, Marcus Vick, to see what kind of thug he is. If that didn\'t do it for you, then look at his flipping off the crowd numerous times.

With all that said, one can sum up the Falcon\'s season with this quote, taken from ESPN.
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"The Atlanta Falcons hired Bobby Petrino because they thought he could turn Michael Vick into a complete quarterback. They signed Joey Harrington merely to serve as No. 7\'s backup."
The best thing for them to do now, is realize they have a lost season, look forward to the draft and let Petrino pick up the excellent Brian Brohm fro Louisville, KY. There is no way Harrington can lead this time, Vick most likely won\'t be back. Look to the future.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on July 27, 2007, 05:02:15 AM
leave it to the media to somehow bring "race" into this...


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmcxkTwhPXCGM58PbrVihjJDubYF?slug=dw-vickhearing072607&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


maybe this person saw more than i did on tv, but what i did see on tv was black and white folk supportin\' Vick, while i honestly must say that while i didn\'t see any afri. americans on the animal rights side, i\'m sure some were there, they even interviewed some afri americans that didn\'t support Vick, so they "the media" really need to give this thing a rest....One thing i will say is that those animal lovers need to get rid of those signs calling for vicks death and s**t like that.....they want to protest? they need to see how they slaughter those cows that are used to make big macs and whoppers that i\'m sure alot of them eat on a daily basis...
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Samwise on July 27, 2007, 05:21:01 AM
Black Ppl Hate Aniamsl!!
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Cerberus on July 27, 2007, 06:20:54 AM
aniamsl?

the fuck are aniamsl\'s?
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on July 27, 2007, 09:17:08 AM
cows are raised to be killed.  cows would be extinct if humans didn\'t need whoppers.

This is completely not a racial thing at all.  These animal rights whackos very rarely get the spotlight.  They are nutcases and no one listens to them ever.  


But, had he gotten out of a white SUV, that would be a different story.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Samwise on July 27, 2007, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Cerberus
aniamsl?

the fuck are aniamsl\'s?

Animals of course, you silly Brit. :)
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: THX on July 27, 2007, 09:51:23 PM
dont make fun of him u guys are euro brothers.  both of u need to team up and fight ur the REAL enemy, the americans
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Samwise on July 28, 2007, 12:07:28 AM
ONLY IN AMERIKKKA!

(we haven\'t had that one in a while ;))
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on August 27, 2007, 10:03:09 AM
Vick apologizes....


http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/27/michael.vick/index.html


i say let him pay his dues and let him come back to play....but i\'m gettin sick of some of these in the media actin\' like it\'s the coming of the apocolypse because of what he\'s done, "how can vick live with himself?" or "my goodness this is a devastating tragedy"..:rolleyes:...shut the f**k up and keep it movin\', he was engaged in dogfightin\', he didn\'t commit murder...he\'ll pay for his actions and that will be the end of it...
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Evi on August 27, 2007, 10:08:49 AM
Having a bad day, clips?
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on August 27, 2007, 10:18:01 AM
Quote from: Evi
Having a bad day, clips?



heh....sounds like it doesn\'t it? it\'s just sometimes the media says stuff that makes me wanna smack them....well that and i hate mondays...:D
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: mjps21983 on August 27, 2007, 10:43:05 AM
Quote from: clips
Vick apologizes....


http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/27/michael.vick/index.html


i say let him pay his dues and let him come back to play....but i\'m gettin sick of some of these in the media actin\' like it\'s the coming of the apocolypse because of what he\'s done, "how can vick live with himself?" or "my goodness this is a devastating tragedy"..:rolleyes:...shut the f**k up and keep it movin\', he was engaged in dogfightin\', he didn\'t commit murder...he\'ll pay for his actions and that will be the end of it...


Quoting Stephon Marbury and Roy Jones are we? I know it\'s "just an animal", but to some in this country an animal is part of the family and when something like this happens and dogs are being murdered and killed in inhumane ways. If he electrocuted a person or drowned a child you wouldn\'t be say let him pay his time and move on... I agree that he should be allowed to play when he gets out as long as he learns his lesson and comes out of this as a smarter better person. The best play for him would to be to come out against dog fighting in some ad campaigns and teach people about the dangers and how bad it is.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on August 27, 2007, 01:27:05 PM
Marbury and Jones said that? Then they are men of great wisdom tru indeed!...:fro: and i knew as soon as i thru murder into the mix somebody was gonna say "what if he killed a person?".....i agree with everything you stated and i don\'t condone cruelty to animals,  i just feel the media is blowin\' this outta proportion.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: QuDDus on August 27, 2007, 02:40:19 PM
those animal rights people are fucking nut jobs. They should be ashamed to be so fucking retarded. But hey Vick is the only one to blame for this stupid shit. Going to jail for something dumb as this makes life seem so useless. I guess shit happens though. If I was Vick I would say fuck the falcons. They basicly did not stand by him at all.

They act like he fucking murdered someone. I guess its all business in the NFL. Damn shame the mans career is over. Can\'t do shit but move on now. I highly doubt he took part in the killing of any dogs. I am sure his friends were doing all the dirty work. The fact that he was even involved is just out of this world. I also believe he probably been stopped doing the shit but his
 friends and shit were still at the house running the shit. Tough lesson to be learning right now.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: mjps21983 on August 27, 2007, 03:02:48 PM
Quote from: QuDDus
those animal rights people are fucking nut jobs. They should be ashamed to be so fucking retarded. But hey Vick is the only one to blame for this stupid shit. Going to jail for something dumb as this makes life seem so useless. I guess shit happens though. If I was Vick I would say fuck the falcons. They basicly did not stand by him at all.

They act like he fucking murdered someone. I guess its all business in the NFL. Damn shame the mans career is over. Can\'t do shit but move on now. I highly doubt he took part in the killing of any dogs. I am sure his friends were doing all the dirty work. The fact that he was even involved is just out of this world. I also believe he probably been stopped doing the shit but his
 friends and shit were still at the house running the shit. Tough lesson to be learning right now.



It\'s too bad for those dogs to, huh... considering they are dead. Over 50 dogs are going to be put down, why because of a business he was runninlg and funding it. Now if you were funding/running a strip joint that was hosting prostitution you\'d be in the same boat with Vick. I agree he should be allowed to come back to the game, that in itself will be enough punishment as it is.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 27, 2007, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: QuDDus
those animal rights people are fucking nut jobs. They should be ashamed to be so fucking retarded. But hey Vick is the only one to blame for this stupid shit. Going to jail for something dumb as this makes life seem so useless. I guess shit happens though. If I was Vick I would say fuck the falcons. They basicly did not stand by him at all.

They act like he fucking murdered someone. I guess its all business in the NFL. Damn shame the mans career is over. Can\'t do shit but move on now. I highly doubt he took part in the killing of any dogs. I am sure his friends were doing all the dirty work. The fact that he was even involved is just out of this world. I also believe he probably been stopped doing the shit but his
 friends and shit were still at the house running the shit. Tough lesson to be learning right now.


He tortured animals. Come on - quit just trying to defend him.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Phil on August 27, 2007, 03:54:34 PM
You\'re pissed because the falcons didn\'t support a criminal?  Oh come on, its bad enough the guy leading the team is out doing stupid shit, you don\'t want the ENTIRE TEAM involved in it.  It was a smart thing to cut ties and move on.

Yes yes, it was cruelty to animals, everyone has their opinion on the severity of it; however nobody will dispute its a crime, and it is something Vick knowingly committed.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on August 27, 2007, 04:18:59 PM
Quote from: QuDDus
those animal rights people are fucking nut jobs. They should be ashamed to be so fucking retarded. But hey Vick is the only one to blame for this stupid shit. Going to jail for something dumb as this makes life seem so useless. I guess shit happens though. If I was Vick I would say fuck the falcons. They basicly did not stand by him at all.

I\'d love to see that press conference where Rich McKay stands up at the podium and explains why they are going to pay an animal killer millions.

Quote from: QuDDus
They act like he fucking murdered someone.

So it\'s normal to kill dogs?  Could you kill your dog?

Quote from: QuDDus
I guess its all business in the NFL. Damn shame the mans career is over. Can\'t do shit but move on now. I highly doubt he took part in the killing of any dogs.

Based on what?  Do you know him?  Why would you doubt it?  You have absolutely no basis for this judgement.  Because he can throw a ball far and run fast does not make him a non killer.

Quote from: QuDDus
I am sure his friends were doing all the dirty work.

So I guess you know these guys too.

Quote from: QuDDus
The fact that he was even involved is just out of this world. I also believe he probably been stopped doing the shit but his friends and shit were still at the house running the shit.


 
Quote from: QuDDus
Tough lesson to be learning right now.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: QuDDus on August 27, 2007, 07:03:43 PM
I am not saying the guy wasn\'t involved in the dog fighting. I just don\'t think he bothered with the killing of the animals. I believe if one of those dangerous dogs got killed or punked out. His associates took care of it.
I am not saying that makes him any better.

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I\'d love to see that press conference where Rich McKay stands up at the podium and explains why they are going to pay an animal killer millions.


I am not saying that he the best human on earth for doing what he did. But I don\'t think this crime is worth the mans entire career. I don\'t think the crime meets the punishment. Sure he should face something but the law is the law and people have done ten times worst and got off with way lighter sentences.

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It\'s too bad for those dogs to, huh... considering they are dead. Over 50 dogs are going to be put down, why because of a business he was runninlg and funding it. Now if you were funding/running a strip joint that was hosting prostitution you\'d be in the same boat with Vick. I agree he should be allowed to come back to the game, that in itself will be enough punishment as it is.


Animals die every single day so I can enjoy a whopper jr anytime I want. If you ask some of those veggie nut jobs I should be locked up. I am not saying the guy is going to win a boyscout award anytime soon. But to take away his entire career seems way over the line.  Sure he is dumb fucker for even being involved with this. He has enough money to find something more constructive to do with his time. Can\'t blame anyone but Vick for this but I hope he gets a second chance.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 27, 2007, 07:23:56 PM
there\'s a minor difference between killing for food and killing a dog that\'s fighting just to please its owner. and not only killing it, but electricuting it.

But while i think vick should be punished to the full extent, the media coverage is out of hand and definitly not proportional to all the other things that the media should/shouldve talked about. good or bad
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: mjps21983 on August 27, 2007, 07:53:22 PM
So I\'m sure Vick killed those dogs and then had them for dinner? Or is there some under ground doggie burgers I don\'t know about Quddus?
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Bozco on August 27, 2007, 09:44:55 PM
Playing in the NFL is a fucking privilege.  The sheer fact that he could repeatedly lie about this is reason enough for the Falcons to get rid of him.  Then factor in the crime itself and I have no problem with him maybe never playing again.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 27, 2007, 10:10:48 PM
and btw, his career isn\'t over. Its a huge bump but there will always be a team that will take the risk and the publicity. Hell, even the falcons aren\'t cutting him from the team yet saying \'it\'d be in our best interest to cut him now, but for the future of the organization, it isn\'t the right move\'
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Jumpman on August 27, 2007, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: QuDDus
I am not saying the guy wasn\'t involved in the dog fighting. I just don\'t think he bothered with the killing of the animals. I believe if one of those dangerous dogs got killed or punked out. His associates took care of it.
I am not saying that makes him any better.



I am not saying that he the best human on earth for doing what he did. But I don\'t think this crime is worth the mans entire career. I don\'t think the crime meets the punishment. Sure he should face something but the law is the law and people have done ten times worst and got off with way lighter sentences.



Animals die every single day so I can enjoy a whopper jr anytime I want. If you ask some of those veggie nut jobs I should be locked up. I am not saying the guy is going to win a boyscout award anytime soon. But to take away his entire career seems way over the line.  Sure he is dumb fucker for even being involved with this. He has enough money to find something more constructive to do with his time. Can\'t blame anyone but Vick for this but I hope he gets a second chance.
Go club some kittens you heartless dumb piece of shit.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: QuDDus on August 28, 2007, 03:34:54 AM
Quote from: Jumpman
Go club some kittens you heartless dumb piece of shit.


lol you\'re taking this way too far. I\'m not saying its moral to do what he did. Its just seems like everyone will justify the killing of animals for every other reason in life.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: GmanJoe on August 28, 2007, 03:52:41 AM
He\'s getting sympathy only coz he\'s not white. :p
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on August 28, 2007, 05:32:14 AM
Quote from: QuDDus
Its just seems like everyone will justify the killing of animals for every other reason in life.



Tru no doubt...i remember livin\' in jersey when there were an abundant amount of deers in the area, the state would justify special legislation for hunters to go out and kill them.....and nobody had a problem with it,..never mind the fact that humans were buliding in the deers back yard so the deers have no-where else to go,..and if everybody is so worried about animal torture?...those shot-guns and arrows that they use don\'t always provide an instant kill...

Dog pounds and shelters? after a certain amount of time or if the the pound itself becomes over-crowded, what do you think happens to those dogs in there?...riight...they put them down and incinerate them....doesn\'t matter if the animal is used for food or not, if everybody all of a sudden is so concerned about animal rights and torture, you should see the way they kill cows in those slaughter houses,...they cut their neck and let\'em bleed to death, or they tie them up in the air and split them right down the middle and let their guts spill out...


i\'m not defendin\' vick actions, it was wrong of him from the jump, but all i\'m sayin\' is that even tho dogs are seen as domestic pets at the end of the day it\'s still an animal and some are actin\' like other animals aren\'t bein\' slaughtered ten-times worse than what\'s happened in vick\'s case...again vicks an ass for even gettin involved in somethin\' like this, but the media is just exaggerating the whole scale of it...
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: GmanJoe on August 28, 2007, 05:58:53 AM
Jesus. It\'s different about deer. They cause a lot of traffic fatalities. The hunters shoot them and eat them, not torture them. The dogs and cats are not being mistreated at the pound - but if no one adopts them, they\'re put to sleep. They\'re NOT put into a pit and made to fight and die an excruciating death.

QUIT LOOKING AT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN! It\'s got NOTHING to do with that but you guys don\'t realize it but you are sympathizing for the black man. Why is the media all over this? COZ HE\'S FAMOUS! What else did you expect out of the media? Kids look up to him. They want to be like him. Now this shit happens.

Oh I know some of you will say "Oh it ain\'t like that, Joe! Let\'em do the time but dayum the media is taking this out of context n blowin this outta proportion!" What context? ESPN has little to report on until the season starts. Just....this is NORMAL. Everyone was all over Chmura (or whatever his name was) when he had groped or had "inappropriate" contact with his 17 yr old baby sitter - only he was acquitted of the crime. He still lost his contract and has retired since.

What\'s happening with the media over this Vick incident is normal procedure, folks.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: JBean on August 28, 2007, 06:07:13 AM
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
and btw, his career isn\'t over. Its a huge bump but there will always be a team that will take the risk and the publicity. Hell, even the falcons aren\'t cutting him from the team yet saying \'it\'d be in our best interest to cut him now, but for the future of the organization, it isn\'t the right move\'


The reason he hasn\'t been cut yet is because then the team couldn\'t go after the $22 million of the bonus he got a year or two ago. Also after they get the bouns back they will get a salary cap credit for this season.  

The reason they haven\'t cut him yet is money, nothing else.  I\'m sure he\'ll play in the NFL again at some point... or at least in the CFL or Arena League.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on August 28, 2007, 06:18:54 AM
meh i agree with some what you stated gman,...and if you go-back a few pages you\'ll see i\'ve already presented how the media TRIED to make this a racial thing...my bringing up the aspect of deers and cows and torture related to it, of course i know why it\'s done, i was just tryin\' to make a point, and yes the media will become fascinated with any story that\'s fresh and not related to iraq...i believe the last great media frenzy was Chris Benoit, and before that it was Anna-Nicole-Smith...i just think the media is just gettin\' a bit carried away with this one.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: GmanJoe on August 28, 2007, 06:21:32 AM
As long as the media isn\'t reporting anything about shark attacks, we shouldn\'t worry. Shark attack reports are a prelude to terrorist attacks: 9/11, bombings in Spain, bombings in London.

Wierd but true. :(
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Bozco on August 28, 2007, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: GmanJoe


QUIT LOOKING AT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN! It\'s got NOTHING to do with that but you guys don\'t realize it but you are sympathizing for the black man. Why is the media all over this? COZ HE\'S FAMOUS! What else did you expect out of the media? Kids look up to him. They want to be like him. Now this shit happens.


What\'s happening with the media over this Vick incident is normal procedure, folks.


Thank You
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on August 28, 2007, 02:32:06 PM
Quote from: QuDDus
Animals die every single day so I can enjoy a whopper jr anytime I want. If you ask some of those veggie nut jobs I should be locked up.



Cows would not exist if we didn\'t want to eat them.  They aren\'t exactly high up on the food chain.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Phil on August 28, 2007, 04:55:30 PM
On a side note, I wish some of the other athletes that got caught doing stupid shit would lose more play time.  I hate watching the bengals play.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: GigaShadow on August 28, 2007, 05:20:34 PM
Quote from: GmanJoe


QUIT LOOKING AT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN! It\'s got NOTHING to do with that but you guys don\'t realize it but you are sympathizing for the black man. Why is the media all over this? COZ HE\'S FAMOUS! What else did you expect out of the media? Kids look up to him. They want to be like him. Now this shit happens.



I bet if it was Brett Farve we never would have heard a peep about it.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: QuDDus on August 28, 2007, 05:52:01 PM
Quote from: GmanJoe
Jesus. It\'s different about deer. They cause a lot of traffic fatalities. The hunters shoot them and eat them, not torture them. The dogs and cats are not being mistreated at the pound - but if no one adopts them, they\'re put to sleep. They\'re NOT put into a pit and made to fight and die an excruciating death.

QUIT LOOKING AT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN! It\'s got NOTHING to do with that but you guys don\'t realize it but you are sympathizing for the black man. Why is the media all over this? COZ HE\'S FAMOUS! What else did you expect out of the media? Kids look up to him. They want to be like him. Now this shit happens.

Oh I know some of you will say "Oh it ain\'t like that, Joe! Let\'em do the time but dayum the media is taking this out of context n blowin this outta proportion!" What context? ESPN has little to report on until the season starts. Just....this is NORMAL. Everyone was all over Chmura (or whatever his name was) when he had groped or had "inappropriate" contact with his 17 yr old baby sitter - only he was acquitted of the crime. He still lost his contract and has retired since.

What\'s happening with the media over this Vick incident is normal procedure, folks.


To a certain degree you are right. I will say if he was white I would not want to see him lose his career over this. I would not want to see Tom Brady go down like this. I will say this Mike Vick is one of the biggest names in sports. I think if he was a lesser known player people probably would give fuck no matter if he was black or white. If he were a third string quaterback we would not even be speaking of him right now.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on August 28, 2007, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: GigaShadow
I bet if it was Brett Farve we never would have heard a peep about it.


Meh, color has nothing to do with it,....cause when Clinton was gettin\' his freak on in the oval office, and the republicans was screamin\' impeachment, i defended him to tha hilt!..:D i stated that all the man did was get his johnson slicked up,... nothin\' he did put the country in danger....:fro:



























OH ALL RIGHT THEN!....maybe color has a teeeny-weeeny bit to do with it, but not much....:D
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on August 28, 2007, 08:05:26 PM
Quote from: GigaShadow
I bet if it was Brett Farve we never would have heard a peep about it.



That comment places your card in the retard pile.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on August 28, 2007, 08:06:24 PM
Quote from: clips
Meh, color has nothing to do with it,....cause when Clinton was gettin\' his freak on in the oval office, and the republicans was screamin\' impeachment, i defended him to tha hilt!..:D i stated that all the man did was get his johnson slicked up,... nothin\' he did put the country in danger....:fro:



























OH ALL RIGHT THEN!....maybe color has a teeeny-weeeny bit to do with it, but not much....:D


Your card is going on Giga\'s..  No funny retard business you two....
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Luke on August 28, 2007, 08:34:24 PM
"funny retard business" is a good band name.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Phil on August 28, 2007, 08:44:47 PM
Honestly, I hate to say it, but giga has a point, look at Josh Hamilton.  The guy is a fricken hero here in cincinnati and started in less than one year after his last known drug use.  This wasn\'t steroid abuse either...

Oh and *cough Pete Rose cough*

I don\'t see Vick getting the heroes welcome when he comes back.  He\'s a thug.

//Would have rather not seen Josh Hamilton become a redemption hero
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 28, 2007, 09:45:05 PM
Brett Favre wouldn\'t fight dogs. and not because he\'s white, but because he\'s brett favre. I cant even pick someone who would be fighting dogs for an example. Even then, it\'d have to be a high-profile white player to make any type of comparison. And if there were, I think there\'d be just as big of a deal, but less media attention. So i guess in concern to media, vick being black got more attention. But with the overall sentence, i think it\'d be the same.

and pete rose has gotten very fair treatment. He wants to be in the hall of fame, he wants a part in the MLB, so this permanent treatment is driving him nuts.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Bozco on August 28, 2007, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: Phil
Honestly, I hate to say it, but giga has a point, look at Josh Hamilton.  The guy is a fricken hero here in cincinnati and started in less than one year after his last known drug use.  This wasn\'t steroid abuse either...

Oh and *cough Pete Rose cough*

I don\'t see Vick getting the heroes welcome when he comes back.  He\'s a thug.

//Would have rather not seen Josh Hamilton become a redemption hero


Drug use and fighting dogs, not really comparable.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Phil on August 28, 2007, 11:07:37 PM
Both pretty damn serious crimes seeing as it was more than just marijuana possession.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on August 29, 2007, 03:01:48 AM
Quote from: GmanJoe
As long as the media isn\'t reporting anything about shark attacks, we shouldn\'t worry. Shark attack reports are a prelude to terrorist attacks: 9/11, bombings in Spain, bombings in London.

Wierd but true. :(



*AHEM*...you were saying...


http://www.ktvu.com/news/13995690/detail.html
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on August 29, 2007, 03:03:21 AM
Quote from: GmanJoe
As long as the media isn\'t reporting anything about shark attacks, we shouldn\'t worry. Shark attack reports are a prelude to terrorist attacks: 9/11, bombings in Spain, bombings in London.

Wierd but true. :(



*AHEM*...you were saying...


http://www.ktvu.com/news/13995690/detail.html



and then this...:ohnoes:


http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/08/28/rowlands.seattle.ferry.mystery.cnn



:jacked:.....but to get back on topic, viper hit it right on the nose.....Brett would\'ve gotten the same amount of coverage because he\'s a high profile player, same as in vick\'s case, but because he\'s black and i guess the fact that dog fightin\', especially with pits is kinda popular in some urban circles, it\'s gettin\' a bit more coverage, so again race does have somethin\' to do with it, but not on a large scale to any degree.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: videoholic on August 29, 2007, 03:45:01 AM
:fro: It\'s getting coverage because he is an NFL star and it\'s a hideous crime.  It would get the same amount of coverage if freaking Rush Limbaugh was busted doing it.  Any celeb charged with a brutal crime like this is going to get covered.  It is absolutely impossible to say this has anything to do with race.  :fro:
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: GigaShadow on August 29, 2007, 06:32:52 AM
I guess people didn\'t see the sarcasm in my post...
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: Halberto on August 29, 2007, 11:00:29 AM
What bothers me most is that he had no other reason to do this except out of enjoyment. He\'s a millionaire, why risk millions on cash through dog fighting? He knew what he was doing was wrong but still did it, once again the only conclusion I can draw is that he enjoyed it. He apologizes, not for how brutal or barbaric the act was, but because he thought he was being immature?! .

Jail time for this piece of shit. Sorry Vick sympathizers, you\'re doing exactly what he hoped for.
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on September 22, 2007, 07:46:32 PM
i guess what Vick did is nothin\' compared to these cats in the phillipines....caution...this is kinda graphic....And no i\'m not a Vick sympathiser(spel)...just sayin\'
   

   
https://community.hsus.org/campaign/stop_dog_meat_trade?rk=81MP_k51B3xHW
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: mm on September 22, 2007, 08:44:20 PM
how is that any different than chickens in cages?
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: clips on September 23, 2007, 02:37:58 AM
Quote from: mm
how is that any different than chickens in cages?



whelp i guess it really isn\'t....it\'s just that most folks consider dogs to be domestic pets,..not filet-men-yon(spel)...but folks eat any and everything outside the u.s.....spiders,lizards,...scorpions, snakes...dogs...cats..etc...
Title: Michael Vick
Post by: QuDDus on September 23, 2007, 06:49:10 AM
Quote from: clips
whelp i guess it really isn\'t....it\'s just that most folks consider dogs to be domestic pets,..not filet-men-yon(spel)...but folks eat any and everything outside the u.s.....spiders,lizards,...scorpions, snakes...dogs...cats..etc...


Only in america.  Its like forget every animal except the ones we want to domesticate. Shit is a double standard. Thats why I really don\'t care