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Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clowd on August 07, 2007, 10:29:54 AM
Sometime ago I debunked the rumor that the PS3 wasn\'t selling,  now I will debunk the myth that the PS3 does not have any games.

After all,  this is the #1 reason people use to explain why they haven\'t purchased a PS3.  Alot can afford the price but the common complaint is there aren\'t any games to warrant the price.

I\'m not going to argue what is considered \'enough\' games to warrant $600.  Some are waiting for MGS,  FF,  or Gran Turismo before they make the plunge which is understandable.

But what about current PS3 owners?  Do they simply have nothing to play?

How about the Nintendo Wii?  Since it\'s launch many have claimed that they can play more,  funner games on a $250 system rather than pay $600 to play no games.

So let\'s find out the truth.

I looked through all 343 PS3 games at Gamespot.com and recorded those with a rating of 8.0 or higher.  These are the results:

1. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 9.5
2. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 9.0
3. Tom Clancy\'s Rainbow 6 Vegas 9.0
4. Resistance Fall Of Man 8.6
5. The Darkness 8.5
6. Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection 8.3
7. NHL 2K7 8.3
8. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 8.2
9. NBA 2K7 8.2
11. Fight Night Round 3 8.2
12. Call of Duty 3 8.2
13. Virtua Tennis 3 8.2
14. MLB \'07 The Show 8.2
15. Tiger Woods PGA Tour \'07 8.2
16. Def Jam: Icon 8.1
17. Virtua Fighter 5 8.1
18. NCAA Football \'08 8.0
19. Ridge Racer 7 8.0
20. College Hoops 2K7 8.0
21. The BIGS 8.0
22. NBA Street: Homecourt 8.0

22 Total


I looked through all 500 games at Gamespot.com for the Wii.  I only recorded the games that have a rating of 8.0 and higher.  I did not record the virtua console games.  Super Mario 1? c\'mon

1. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition 9.1
2. Wario Ware: Smooth Moves 9.1
3. Super Paper Mario 8.8
4. The Legend of Zelda:  Twilight Princess 8.8
5. Mercury Meltdown Revolution 8.5
6. Madden NFL 2007 8.4
7. Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz 8.3
8. F-Zero 8.0
9. Trauma Center: Second Opinion 8.0
10. Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream 8.0

10 total

The Xbox 360 had a truckload of games rated over 8.0,  but it has been out 12 months longer than both the Wii and PS3.  So I didn\'t bother comparing it\'s games.

I will let the results speak for themselves.

Funny how when people say something enough,  like how PS3 has no games and the Wii has a ton of fun games,  how quickly a lie can catch on and spread and somehow become truth.

As for future games,  the Wii has SMB and Mario Galaxy this fall,  the PS3 heavenly sword,  lair and ratchet and clank.  for 2008 it looks very bad for the Wii but for PS3 there is MGS4,  GT5, FF13 little big planet and get goes on and on
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 07, 2007, 10:36:15 AM
Uhm?

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1. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 9.5
2. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 9.0
3. Tom Clancy\'s Rainbow 6 Vegas 9.0

8. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 8.2
11. Fight Night Round 3
17. Virtua Fighter 5

1: Port of a PC game that has been on the 360 quite sometime.
2: Port of an XBOX game...
3: Port of an 360 game that has been out quite sometime...
8: Multi-Platform port.
11. Same as above.
17. Lacking crucial features such as, oh, I don\'t know...ONLINE PLAY? Yes, the very thing that the 360 version will have.

And that\'s just the start of the problem with your post, let\'s look at some other problems.

Look at the games, not even remotely the same target demographic audience. I truly doubt anyone who wanted a PS3 decided they would go ahead and buy a Wii instead due to price. These are two different audiences you are trying to compare.

You\'re trolling at this point, and while I don\'t expect you to get banned due to this being a PS forum, you are at the very least, making yourself look like a tool by posting stuff such as " I will debunk the myth". It\'s a videogame console for christ\'s sake.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Evi on August 07, 2007, 10:46:40 AM
Again...go outside and meet some girls, dude. Get out of your room and go play football with some friends or something. If you don\'t have friends...go make some. And no, this doesn\'t mean play virtual football with online friends. Go outside and let the sun actually shed some UV\'s on your skin for the first time in years.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clowd on August 07, 2007, 10:49:30 AM
The truth hurts,  doesn\'t it.

First off, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a PS3 exclusive
I\'m not sure if you know this or not,  but there is some people out there who do not own a MS 360.  Most of your reply is based on whether the PS3 games were available on the 360.  That\'s not the point.  Don\'t try to make it the point.  And that\'s just 5 games out of 22.  Take those 5 out and you still have more than the Wii.

The point is ,  as I proved and you cannot dissaprove,  that the PS3 has a solid lineup of games better than that of the Nintendo Wii.  The rumor being debunked is that PS3 has no good games and the Wii is full of good games.

who cares if the Wii has a different audience.  Game ratings don\'t lie.  Right now the PS3 has more than twice as many games rated 8.0 and highe than the Wii.  FACT. FACT. FACT.
 
I feel sorry for you,  I really do.  You sound like someone who took MS\'s rush to market a year early bait.

EDIT:  Evi, for someone who has 8,000 posts and spends much more time at this board than me LOL LOL
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Evi on August 07, 2007, 10:51:10 AM
You sound like you live in your mom\'s basement. Go outside. Seriously. Go have some fun today. Catch a movie. Bump into some females. Chat up a conversation. Take a hike. Plan a vacation. Get off the freaking computer. Like Raz said, you\'re making yourself out to sound like a tool. What you\'re doing isn\'t healthy. You need to find a hobby. Your well-being depends on it.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 07, 2007, 11:02:35 AM
Quote from: clowd
The truth hurts,  doesn\'t it.

First off, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a PS3 exclusive
I\'m not sure if you know this or not,  but there is some people out there who do not own a MS 360.  Most of your reply is based on whether the PS3 games were available on the 360.  That\'s not the point.  Don\'t try to make it the point.  And that\'s just 5 games out of 22.  Take those 5 out and you still have more than the Wii.

The point is ,  as I proved and you cannot dissaprove,  that the PS3 has a solid lineup of games better than that of the Nintendo Wii.  The rumor being debunked is that PS3 has no good games and the Wii is full of good games.

who cares if the Wii has a different audience.  Game ratings don\'t lie.  Right now the PS3 has more than twice as many games rated 8.0 and highe than the Wii.  FACT. FACT. FACT.
 
I feel sorry for you,  I really do.  You sound like someone who took MS\'s rush to market a year early bait.

EDIT:  Evi, for someone who has 8,000 posts and spends much more time at this board than me LOL LOL

Sigma is a port. It\'s an enhanced port. Nothing more, don\'t try and make it out to be more than it is.

And target audience does matter. You\'re on a board with adults / teenagers, most of who say the PS3 is lacking good exclusive games at this point. They are not jumping up and down screaming for the Wii either. You act as if this board has turned pro-Wii when it hasn\'t. Infact, I would bet, if you would remove your head from your ass, you\'d find plenty of posts saying that the Wii is also lacking good games at this point. The only difference is two things....

Price.
Target audience.

No, the truth does not "hurt". Why? Because we are not all tools. Some of us realize it\'s just videogames. It\'s not a life or death situation as you are treating it. At the end of the day, I don\'t get money from any given company if they do well. So guess what? I don\'t care which company sells the most units, all I care about is which company delivers games that I find appealing.

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Game ratings don\'t lie.

Yes, yes they do. They\'re published opinion . Nothing more.

How old are you? Part of me hopes you\'re some kid around 12, but at the same time I hate to think a mind of that age is already wasted..The other part of me hates to think you\'re an adult acting like a 12 year old. You are on a PS2 board and getting called a troll, doesn\'t that strike you as odd?
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Titan on August 07, 2007, 11:22:29 AM
clowd, you have way too much spare time. Have you ever thought about doing crack or masturbating?
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Phil on August 07, 2007, 11:46:38 AM
I care about 1, maybe 2 of those games that I can\'t find at a cheaper source.  Not worth shelling out 600 for it.  *yawn*

Opinion hurts, doesn\'t it.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 07, 2007, 11:50:11 AM
plus all of those titles are mostly sports games, which come out every year. so common sense tells me that the ps3 would eventually get a library of games in just one year.

the problem is exclusives right now. Why spend 200 bucks more to play the same games. And yes, im not buying an elite, hd-dvd player, etc etc, so it is in fact cheaper than a ps3 for me
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clips on August 07, 2007, 12:19:15 PM
heh i like clowd, and to be honest he\'s no different than those xbox loyalists on the other side,(pstwo)...but clowd you\'re borderlining on obsession with this, that list of ps3 games regarless of what it was rated is still lacking to me, the only game that i would probably pick up is ninja gaiden, i guess it\'s mostly because i only prefer adventure/action/horror/sports titles...i\'m not into 1st person shooters....

And i really hate to echo Raz\'s points, but i agree with everything he stated, and even tho i think the wii is garbage with it\'s wand and gimmicky games,(a trend that i feel will die rather sooner than later) nintendo has always stayed true to their base audience, which is for the younger set, yea they have a few mature rated games in their camp, but for the most part they are geared to the younger generation,....

Sony fumbled all over the place with their launch and they got rid of Ken Kutari because of his lack to secure exclusives for the system and because of his over ambitious stance towards his view of the ps3,...it was stated that he wanted to even add more stuff to the ps3, and the people at sony had to pull rank on him, sony is seriously lucky that the ps2 and their movie divisions are doing pretty well cause they were deep in the black when it comes to the ps3....

So ultimately for me those games you listed may have gotten decent ratings, but the library that the ps3 has still doesn\'t warrant a purchase from me...that and the fact that $600 is still a steep price to be payin\' for any console...
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Bozco on August 07, 2007, 12:36:53 PM
No worse?  He\'s a lot worse than pstwo
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clips on August 07, 2007, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: Bozco
No worse?  He\'s a lot worse than pstwo



yea,...that\'s tru...i mean pstwo would come in here with pics of games for the xbox and brag about it, but he never really took it to the level that clowd is doin\' right now...
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clowd on August 07, 2007, 12:42:09 PM
This is console discussion,  is it not Raz?  You discuss consoles here.  I come back after months of hibernation and post 2 topics,  reviving a forum that was spiraling toward death because of it\'s lame posters who refuse to show any sort of favoritism toward a console because they\'re worried about their \'online\' reputation and all I get is I don\'t want to hear it and your obsessed. lol

I should\'ve realized I\'m in what is basicly a 90% xbox 360 fanboy forum and any subject that gives the PS3 props will be taken over by trolls

The intention of the original post was to show that PS3 had more games rated higher than the Wii despite the myth that the Wii has more games and the PS3 doesn\'t have any.  I was going to give just the facts and say \'you make your own conclusion\',  but I didn\'t,  but I should have considering the rabibd 360 fanboys here.

And the next time someone with 10,000 posts says I have too much free time on my hands I\'m going to barf all over my keyboard
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clips on August 07, 2007, 01:11:18 PM
Quote from: clowd
And the next time someone with 10,000 posts says I have too much free time on my hands I\'m going to barf all over my keyboard



too funny :laughing: and those of you with 10,000 posts know who you are! ;) ...clowd i\'m with you as far as ps3 bein my console of choice, but the way you\'re comin\' across seems really forced.....on the flip side of that tho, i noticed that when some postive news do come in the form of ps3 that some do notice the hate it receives, well gman does anyway, but i guess that\'s not really sayin\' much.....j/k gman..;)


But that is really just lookin\' too deep into this...for every discussion you\'re goin to have somebody with a different view, you\'re always going to have a direct positive to a direct negative with some shades of grey in between...just don\'t take this thing too seriously...and even tho you don\'t have 10,000 posts you\'re slightly comin\' off as one of those guys that hold up those signs at k-mart or walmart on the side of the road describin\' a huge sale, only you\'re sign states.."ps3 is the greatest console ever"
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clowd on August 07, 2007, 01:31:38 PM
it\'s like this,  clips.  When I posted the PGR4 thread I did so to try and validate,  to some extent,  bluray in the PS3.

Then came the haters.  NVIDIA came in and started flaming me.  Raz followed right along.  Then one night I ranted in a post about the 360.  I guess that really ticked them off.  If they wanted to they could easily rant on the PS3 about alot of things but they are afraid to show their true feelings.

I am taking the console war too seriously,  but am I any worst then those who flame and curse me out for doing so?

I\'m just sick and  tired of hearing PS3 has no games PS3 has no games when that\'s obviously not true.  But like I mentioned in the first paragraph of the first post,  PS3 having an OK lineup of games DOES NOT mean it is worth $600.  I just wanted to prove it had games.  Am I too much into the \'console war\'?  Yes.  Spending any amount of time on youtube looking into it will drive you up the wall.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaNh-NPkeAA
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: mm on August 07, 2007, 01:52:35 PM
i heard pstwo committed suicide when this 360 red ringed.

PS3 has plenty of games, even now.
only the ardent haters still contest that.

the problem for sony is, microsoft has more (for now)
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 07, 2007, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: clowd
This is console discussion,  is it not Raz?  You discuss consoles here.  I come back after months of hibernation and post 2 topics,  reviving a forum that was spiraling toward death because of it\'s lame posters who refuse to show any sort of favoritism toward a console because they\'re worried about their \'online\' reputation and all I get is I don\'t want to hear it and your obsessed. lol

I should\'ve realized I\'m in what is basicly a 90% xbox 360 fanboy forum and any subject that gives the PS3 props will be taken over by trolls

The intention of the original post was to show that PS3 had more games rated higher than the Wii despite the myth that the Wii has more games and the PS3 doesn\'t have any.  I was going to give just the facts and say \'you make your own conclusion\',  but I didn\'t,  but I should have considering the rabibd 360 fanboys here.

And the next time someone with 10,000 posts says I have too much free time on my hands I\'m going to barf all over my keyboard



You take gamin way to serious. Honestly, at this point, I think we all know you have no life what so ever.

Quote

Then came the haters. NVIDIA came in and started flaming me. Raz followed right along. Then one night I ranted in a post about the 360. I guess that really ticked them off. If they wanted to they could easily rant on the PS3 about alot of things but they are afraid to show their true feelings.

I am taking the console war too seriously, but am I any worst then those who flame and curse me out for doing so?


There is no war, man. It\'s a friggin industry. The fact that you think  think there is some "console war" is pathetic.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clowd on August 07, 2007, 02:41:21 PM
Wow this forum has really lost it\'s edge.  I remember discussing and debating the 360 and PS3 with Rikku and PSTWO.  We didn\'t resort to childish name calling and outright lies.

We posted topics and we discussed/debated.  We didn\'t resort to childish \'your living your mom\'s basement\' comments.  I can imagine whipping you in an online game only to have you blabber \'go outside and get some air you take this game too seriously\' when you\'re probably the pastiest little thing.  Then we could play some one on one REAL basketball and I\'d still whip your boney butt then what?

As for taking consoles too seriously,  why are you on an internet forum posting about them?  Don\'t be a hypocrite.  Just look how you ranted in favor of the 360 in your first reply.  I was just making a point that PS3 had games and you had to drag it off into something else and claim I\'m trolling. :rolleyes:
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Jumpman on August 07, 2007, 02:58:20 PM
http://www.vgchartz.com/ngwars.php

"sales=king"
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 07, 2007, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: clowd
Wow this forum has really lost it\'s edge.  I remember discussing and debating the 360 and PS3 with Rikku and PSTWO.  We didn\'t resort to childish name calling and outright lies.

We posted topics and we discussed/debated.  We didn\'t resort to childish \'your living your mom\'s basement\' comments.  I can imagine whipping you in an online game only to have you blabber \'go outside and get some air you take this game too seriously\' when you\'re probably the pastiest little thing.  Then we could play some one on one REAL basketball and I\'d still whip your boney butt then what?

As for taking consoles too seriously,  why are you on an internet forum posting about them?  Don\'t be a hypocrite.  Just look how you ranted in favor of the 360 in your first reply.  I was just making a point that PS3 had games and you had to drag it off into something else and claim I\'m trolling. :rolleyes:

I remember those days also, but I also realize that most of us have grown up and realized that the stuff you keep ranting on really don\'t matter.


I never ranted in favor of the 360. I merely pointed out some problems with your point. I don\'t have a favorite console, fact is, I think all three are severely lacking at this point. Does the 360 have more games? Sure, but one would expect that due to the head start it had.


Buddy, like I said earlier, when everyone on a PS board is accusing you of trolling and calling you pathetic, then maybe, you need to take a step back and look at how serious you are taking something so trivial.. Yeah, I post on a board and discuss things, but I don\'t waste my time getting my panties in a bunch of try to "debunk the myth".
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: mm on August 07, 2007, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: Jumpman
http://www.vgchartz.com/ngwars.php

"sales=king"


you F\'n know it!
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Knotter8 on August 08, 2007, 01:03:44 AM
At this point I have no real reason to buy either console.

However, the 2008 forecast shows, to me, a slight more incentive
to save up for PS3. Then again, when I play Xbox and PS2 it\'s still
fun and their latest games still look very good.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on August 08, 2007, 04:07:30 AM
who gives a shit, buy the console that u like.. play the fucken games and stop the bitching..    I\'m happy with my PC atm.  None of the consoles interest me what so ever.  

 Down teh track when ps3s get cheaper i\'ll get one.. Right now i\'d rather buy electronics hardware and pc shit.

not that anyone really gives a shit.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: GmanJoe on August 08, 2007, 06:43:44 AM
Yeah guys! You tell clowd not to post in PSX2Central again with PS3 news again! This is a 360 message board! Sheesh!
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: kopking on August 08, 2007, 07:39:23 AM
i think the problem is, some of the really good games on ps3, have only just come out, and been on the 360 for a while!
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Nolaws on August 08, 2007, 08:03:50 AM
I don\'t think there is a problem :D

each and everyday that passes there is a new reason to buy a PS3. Be it cheap ass game that appears on PSN or firmware updates or new games release.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Coredweller on August 08, 2007, 08:54:44 AM
Quote from: Nolaws
I don\'t think there is a problem :D
 
each and everyday that passes there is a new reason to buy a PS3. Be it cheap ass game that appears on PSN or firmware updates or new games release.
"Firmware updates" are a reason to buy a PS3?  :o
 
I have a couple problems with the PS3 title list in the first post.
 
1.  Half the titles are sports games, which to me are not groundbreaking, and usually not interesting.  Certainly not reason enough to buy a new console, vs. buying that game for an existing console.
 
2.  I don\'t trust the Gamespot ratings anymore.  I think the ratings are somewhat inflated early in a console\'s lifecycle.  It seems to me that games which received a 9.x around the time of the launch, would never get a score that high if reviewed six months later.  To me it calls into question the validity of their whole rating system.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Ashford on August 08, 2007, 09:43:06 AM
Stop posting other\'s people\'s opinions and stating them as FACT...

This make you lose most, if not all, your credibility...

Nintendo > Sony <----- THAT is a FACT, going by sales, since Wii and DS are destroying PS3 and PSP...
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Unicron! on August 08, 2007, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: clowd
Sometime ago I debunked the rumor that the PS3 wasn\'t selling,  now I will debunk the myth that the PS3 does not have any games.

After all,  this is the #1 reason people use to explain why they haven\'t purchased a PS3.  Alot can afford the price but the common complaint is there aren\'t any games to warrant the price.

I\'m not going to argue what is considered \'enough\' games to warrant $600.  Some are waiting for MGS,  FF,  or Gran Turismo before they make the plunge which is understandable.

But what about current PS3 owners?  Do they simply have nothing to play?

How about the Nintendo Wii?  Since it\'s launch many have claimed that they can play more,  funner games on a $250 system rather than pay $600 to play no games.

So let\'s find out the truth.

I looked through all 343 PS3 games at Gamespot.com and recorded those with a rating of 8.0 or higher.  These are the results:

1. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 9.5
2. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 9.0
3. Tom Clancy\'s Rainbow 6 Vegas 9.0
4. Resistance Fall Of Man 8.6
5. The Darkness 8.5
6. Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection 8.3
7. NHL 2K7 8.3
8. Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 8.2
9. NBA 2K7 8.2
11. Fight Night Round 3 8.2
12. Call of Duty 3 8.2
13. Virtua Tennis 3 8.2
14. MLB \'07 The Show 8.2
15. Tiger Woods PGA Tour \'07 8.2
16. Def Jam: Icon 8.1
17. Virtua Fighter 5 8.1
18. NCAA Football \'08 8.0
19. Ridge Racer 7 8.0
20. College Hoops 2K7 8.0
21. The BIGS 8.0
22. NBA Street: Homecourt 8.0

22 Total


I looked through all 500 games at Gamespot.com for the Wii.  I only recorded the games that have a rating of 8.0 and higher.  I did not record the virtua console games.  Super Mario 1? c\'mon

1. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition 9.1
2. Wario Ware: Smooth Moves 9.1
3. Super Paper Mario 8.8
4. The Legend of Zelda:  Twilight Princess 8.8
5. Mercury Meltdown Revolution 8.5
6. Madden NFL 2007 8.4
7. Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz 8.3
8. F-Zero 8.0
9. Trauma Center: Second Opinion 8.0
10. Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream 8.0

10 total

The Xbox 360 had a truckload of games rated over 8.0,  but it has been out 12 months longer than both the Wii and PS3.  So I didn\'t bother comparing it\'s games.

I will let the results speak for themselves.

Funny how when people say something enough,  like how PS3 has no games and the Wii has a ton of fun games,  how quickly a lie can catch on and spread and somehow become truth.

As for future games,  the Wii has SMB and Mario Galaxy this fall,  the PS3 heavenly sword,  lair and ratchet and clank.  for 2008 it looks very bad for the Wii but for PS3 there is MGS4,  GT5, FF13 little big planet and get goes on and on
Results dont speak anything yet until  PS3 gets some of its highly promising games. Many of the games you mentioned are also nothing special and dont diversify the console enough yet. They are mainly ports and as Coredweller said your list is filled with sports games. How many care about Tiger Woods, NHL etc?
 It has a few pretty great games, some of its exclusives are great but they are still very few.

 Its is also important to note that there isnt enough variety of good games in each genre. A console needs a variety of good adventure, platform, racing, puzzle, RPG etc etc. There are many kinds of gamers out there. They cant all be satisfied by the same good games. Sigma, Motorstorm, Resistence, Virtua Fighter, Darkness etc are all good games, but how many will be interested in all of them? Bob likes Motorstorm but Resistance doesnt do it for him. Tom likes Resistance but not interested on Darkness or Motorstorm. Chris likes platform games but there arent any.

Also some of its good games like Tekken 5 are unavailable to many regions of the world. PSN does no support their countries.

 PS3 still lacks. It is understandable considering its still new but needs games nevertheless.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Phil on August 08, 2007, 05:36:51 PM
For reference, the 360 has close to 60 (57 I think) games at 8.0 or higher on gamespot, most are titles I\'d never touch, but then again, the same applies to the PS3.

Reviews are bullshit though.  I\'ve enjoyed plenty of games that got crappy ratings and I\'ve despised games that got rave reviews.

Bleh, I should just buy a DS and be done with consoles for a while.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 08, 2007, 07:27:12 PM
The DS does rock, it rocks hard .
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Nolaws on August 09, 2007, 02:41:11 AM
wep, pretty satisfied with my DS to :D
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Eiksirf on August 09, 2007, 09:10:37 AM
Just saw this thread and some of the Wii games clowd listed are actually VC games. (Punchout, F-Zero) For the record.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: GmanJoe on August 09, 2007, 09:29:33 AM
Speaking of Wii, RE4 is awesome. Best game for this lil console yet. The only game worth buying (Wii Sports is free :p )
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Unicron! on August 09, 2007, 10:31:30 AM
It would have been more preferable if they made a new resi or Umbrella Chronicles game with the same control lay out. I was going to buy a Wii for the latter until I found out it is a shooter on rails.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Blade on August 09, 2007, 02:42:50 PM
Just casually looking at the PS3\'s game list (as posted by clowd in the OP) I can say that the majority of them are ports and sports games.

The Wii hasn\'t had a flood of AAA games either.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: mm on August 09, 2007, 07:09:54 PM
since beating zelda, my wii is mostly collecting dust

*insert PS3 reference here for LIC*
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Bozco on August 09, 2007, 08:51:33 PM
With your 360 and Wii collecting dust all those AAA titles from the PS3 must be getting so much attention.....
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Soul Reaver on August 09, 2007, 11:22:51 PM
Wow this thread is a bit of a flame bait isn\'t it.

Yes, it\'s true that the PS3 only has a few games that differentiate it from the 360, but that\'ll change well enough in the fall. Sure it won\'t have as many games as Microsoft\'s console, but I\'m content with what it offers at the time being.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Samwise on August 10, 2007, 12:25:55 AM
At least your PS3 won\'t break down every second month.

BTW, serious question: Is the Wii novelty wearing off? Or is it still enjoyable? I heard some people talk about how there aren\'t really any great games for it right now. And even though I haven\'t looked real hard, it also seems to be the case to me.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clips on August 10, 2007, 02:11:54 AM
i\'m not really sure what the status of gaming is with the wii, but i\'m sure that wand novelty was good for about a good month then that\'s it...add to the fact that the graphics on that thing is just slightly better than the gamecube, i think we\'ll see the wii quietly drop back into 3rd place once the AAA games from sony and the steady flow of 360 AAA games begin to make their mark.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 10, 2007, 03:54:50 AM
I don\'t own a Wii, as I see no reason to yet, but I truly doubt we see it taking a backseat. The price is affordable and it attracts the non-gamers. Everyone I know wants a Wii, and while the novelty factor may wear off to the so called "hardcore" crowd, I think the casual user will still find enjoyment with the casual games.

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since beating zelda, my wii is mostly collecting dust


Funny, I can say the same about my Gamecube.

;)
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: mm on August 10, 2007, 04:10:28 AM
Quote from: Bozco
With your 360 and Wii collecting dust all those AAA titles from the PS3 must be getting so much attention.....


actually, i just finished the darkness the other night.
now playing the superior version of oblivion for the next few weeks.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Unicron! on August 10, 2007, 05:38:49 AM
Quote from: Samwise
At least your PS3 won\'t break down every second month.

BTW, serious question: Is the Wii novelty wearing off? Or is it still enjoyable? I heard some people talk about how there aren\'t really any great games for it right now. And even though I haven\'t looked real hard, it also seems to be the case to me.
Well enjoyment is a very broad definition. Perhaps it would have been easier if we defined types of enjoyment people seek.

Personally and based on what I observed in here most likely most of us might not find it\'s current list enjoyable under our terms but the kind of people who still buy them might because they are seeking for a different kind of "enjoyment" and lastability.

It is also very cheap and attractive to young gamers. Kids should be a huge part of people who play games. 360 and especially PS3 is a no no for parents and there are many who get excited by the prospect of the motion sensor controllers alone.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Soul Reaver on August 10, 2007, 12:20:58 PM
Quote from: mm
actually, i just finished the darkness the other night.
now playing the superior version of oblivion for the next few weeks.

The PC version then huh?

;)

Oh, and the Wii has Metroid Prime: Corruption this month. Seems like the good stuff are finally coming.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 10, 2007, 01:32:06 PM
Quote from: mm
actually, i just finished the darkness the other night.
now playing the superior version of oblivion for the next few weeks.

PC, eh?
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 10, 2007, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: mm
actually, i just finished the darkness the other night.
now playing the superior version of oblivion for the next few weeks.


PC hm?
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 10, 2007, 05:34:32 PM
I should also add that having finshed everything in Oblivion (\'cept for Shivering Isles), the game is somewhat a dissapointment towards the end. Infact, the only true fun I had was the Dark Brotherhood guild.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: mm on August 10, 2007, 07:15:38 PM
PC?

i didn\'t feel like spending 1500$ to run it properly plus i like playing from the couch
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Soul Reaver on August 10, 2007, 08:19:45 PM
mm what kind of pc do you have anyway? oblivion runs pretty damn well on a 7900

anyway, using "superior" for the ps3 version against the 360 version is a bit too strong. with the recent graphics patch, they look the same now. though i\'ll give it to you that the ps3 version loads 2.5 seconds faster than the 360 version.

that\'s something i guess, however slight or negligible ;)
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 11, 2007, 01:48:32 AM
Anyone wanna guess who made these quotes?

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what i dislike about oblivizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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PC > consoles
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Oblivion


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1st person view RPG\'s make me want to vomit


(It does have a third person view - and this I can agree with, as I played Oblivion in third person.)

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oblivion = morrowind + 15%
it\'s the RPG equivalent of EA\'s madden football


And I am still digging for the quote concering how the superior version is the version that allows user-supported mods. I know that one exists somewhere.

:D

Wait..

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mods, mods, mods

http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38237&highlight=Oblivion

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no good mods yet?

obviously you haven\'t even looked

the 360 version is overpriced


Then what is the PS3 version?

This is from Soul Reaver regarding why Oblivion is better on his 360.
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It really is the only good reason. Along with playing on my comfortable couch.


This is MM\'s response.

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you have a wooden crate at your computer desk?


Here is another great one.

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class defining and world changing mods are hardly simple and something the crippled 360 version is presently incapable of doing


One of my favorites.
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i am going with the console vs pc thing.
oblivion on the pc is far superior to the 360 version.
to the point where the 360 version is a waste of money if you have a mid-grade PC


Don\'t spend that $1500, just need a "mid-grade PC".

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lol, like any PC user can\'t browse out to megagames or any mod site and freely get them

the titled isn\'t crippled on the PC version


At least the PS3 version is the "superior" one. I mean, it obviously must include all these great free mods. I also think we should volunteer to help buy MM a new PC that is at least "mid-range"..Oh and get rid of that wooden crate at your desk.

;)
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Viper_Fujax on August 11, 2007, 02:07:11 AM
i heard the ps3 had a lot better framerates than the 360. A coworker with a 360 was talking about how much it was stuttering on him. then again, he doesnt have it connected to the internet, so maybe the patch does fix it.

I\'ve never played it though. watched my brother play a bit (on pc), but I didnt like the first person view either. and third person looked like crap too, and used up his above-average computer\'s resources like a motherfucker. But STALKER is a fun ass game. Been playing BF2 since im close to a few awards, but i\'ve gone a good amount through stalker and its pretty damn cool
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 11, 2007, 03:17:34 AM
The biggest problem with the 360 was a cache issue. You could clean your cache and it would run fine. There was also a patch that improved it slightly.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: mm on August 11, 2007, 04:21:33 AM
grats on thread digging, LIC.
my opinion has differed slightly since 18 months ago.
hell, i bought a 360 since 18 months ago.  

good thing i only rented the PS3 version since i beat it on PC and just want to try a different class.
oh, and i bought a comfortable couch.

still, PC\'s > consoles
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Blade on August 11, 2007, 06:49:48 AM
I\'m getting BioShock for the PC, Mike. :)

As\' right. I bought the 360 for games like BioShock but... yeah. It was inevitable.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: clowd on August 11, 2007, 11:22:37 AM
Why so much hate for the PS3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhy9hFgoXCI

Part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHp_08HdYSw

I recommend watching the rest of his videos
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Raz The Friggin Grea on August 11, 2007, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: mm
grats on thread digging, LIC.
my opinion has differed slightly since 18 months ago.
hell, i bought a 360 since 18 months ago.  

good thing i only rented the PS3 version since i beat it on PC and just want to try a different class.
oh, and i bought a comfortable couch.

still, PC\'s > consoles


Your opinion changed on such fundmental things like user mods?
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Jumpman on August 12, 2007, 12:43:22 PM
Quote from: clowd
Why so much hate for the PS3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhy9hFgoXCI

Part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHp_08HdYSw

I recommend watching the rest of his videos

"I recommend you stop being such a faggot."
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: mm on August 12, 2007, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Raz The Friggin Grea
Your opinion changed on such fundmental things like user mods?


yes, i didn\'t feel like messing with them on the 2nd time through the game.
Title: Debunking the \'PS3 has no games\' myth
Post by: Eiksirf on August 13, 2007, 06:33:30 AM
Quote from: Samwise
At least your PS3 won\'t break down every second month.
 
BTW, serious question: Is the Wii novelty wearing off? Or is it still enjoyable? I heard some people talk about how there aren\'t really any great games for it right now. And even though I haven\'t looked real hard, it also seems to be the case to me.

The remote doesn\'t lose its effectiveness. It\'s a capable controller.
 
The great games haven\'t been there except for on occasion, though, so unless you\'re willing to give something like Super Mario Strikers (EGM gave it 5 out of 5), there\'s not much to do with it. I\'ve been playing my Xbox 360 lately, personally.
 
The new Madden should be fun. Metroid and Super Mario are on the way. Ghost Squad from Sega looks promising, although it\'s an arcade port. As it is, there\'s a slow paced Super Paper Mario and some people have enjoyed different games such as Trauma Center or The Godfather. But for the most part, the line up is lacking.